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A81501 The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. 1675 (1675) Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652 61,995 98

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this_o practice_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o right_n thereto_o the_o father_n give_v in_o their_o testimony_n also_o a_o touch_n of_o they_o therefore_o tertul._n in_o his_o apol._n to_o the_o gent._n cap._n 39_o p._n 137._o english_a translation_n say_v that_o in_o these_o assembly_n there_o be_v bishop_n that_o preside_v they_o be_v approve_v of_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o they_o who_o they_o ought_v to_o conduct_v so_o say_v many_o other_o 95._o possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la aug._n cap._n 4._o leo._n 1._o epist_n 95._o quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n divine_v cent._n 2._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 134_o 135._o cent._n 1._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o col_fw-fr 179._o cent._n 3._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 146_o 147._o the_o roman_a presbyter_n in_o their_o epistle_n to_o cyrian_a affirm_v that_o every_o church_n have_v a_o like_a power_n of_o choose_v call_v and_o ordain_v minister_n and_o for_o just_a cause_n again_o to_o depose_v they_o 68_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o aug._n epist_n 100_o cyprian_a epist_n 68_o and_o cyprian_n himself_o say_v that_o the_o right_n of_o choose_v such_o as_o be_v fit_a and_o refuse_v the_o unworthy_a belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o that_o the_o officer_n and_o people_n do_v consult_v about_o it_o with_o common_a consent_n and_o for_o these_o thing_n he_o be_v quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n writer_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 153.173_o 174_o 175._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 135_o 136.146_o and_o also_o that_o the_o people_n do_v consider_v the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v choose_v and_o judge_v and_o much_o more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o those_o place_n before_o 11._o john_n ferus_fw-la a_o friar_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o act._n 11._o and_o magdeburg_n cent._n 5._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 178_o 179_o 180._o now_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o testimony_n and_o judgement_n of_o latter_a age_n and_o of_o man_n otherwise_o differ_v the_o papist_n themselves_o at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o 800_o year_n together_o after_o christ_n for_o the_o particular_a church_n to_o choose_v their_o own_o minister_n and_o they_o then_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v remain_v at_o that_o day_n the_o record_n thereof_o at_o rome_n and_o they_o then_o and_o there_o desire_v that_o those_o record_n may_v be_v destroy_v lest_o luther_n who_o maintain_v this_o right_n to_o the_o people_n shall_v make_v use_n of_o they_o to_o bring_v in_o the_o custom_n into_o the_o church_n again_o and_o they_o there_o also_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o be_v take_v from_o the_o church_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o council_n only_o who_o make_v a_o decree_n against_o it_o ●76_n see_v the_o conference_n of_o rayno'd_n &_o hart_n c._n 6._o p._n 223._o hart_n say_v out_o of_o genebrard_n that_o clemens_n take_v not_o the_o bishopric_n by_o the_o council_n of_o the_o lord_n lest_o the_o example_n of_o take_v it_o by_o nomination_n of_o peter_n shall_v pass_v to_o posterity_n and_o derogate_v from_o the_o free_a providence_n of_o the_o church_n in_o choose_v of_o her_o own_o bishop_n geneb●ard_n chronolg_n l._n 3._o in_o lin._n see_v more_o l._n 4._o seculo_fw-la 11._o cite_v in_o the_o same_o confer_v cap._n 7._o l_o ●76_n council_n trident._n in_o english_a lib_n 7._o p._n 590_o 591.598_o see_v more_o of_o the_o same_o council_n lib._n 8._o p._n 725._o and_o he_o that_o write_v this_o history_n complain_v against_o rome_n about_o this_o in_o these_o word_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n grant_v not_o the_o people_n the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o certain_o say_v he_o be_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n continue_v more_o than_o 800_o year_n council_n trident._n lib._n 2._o p._n 163._o bishop_n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o mr._n harding_n p._n 230._o say_v out_o of_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o that_o the_o bishopric_n be_v bestow_v upon_o sabinus_n by_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n of_o the_o whole_a brotherhood_n of_o that_o church_n to_o which_o he_o be_v to_o be_v bishop_n he_o there_o say_v that_o honorius_n the_o emperor_n write_v to_o boneface_v do_v agree_v he_o to_o be_v bishop_n who_o some_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o whole_a brotherhood_n shall_v choose_v and_o the_o bishop_n himself_o then_o there_o affirm_v from_o hence_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o after_o in_o p._n 282._o the_o bishop_n affirm_v that_o cyprian_a in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o the_o people_n be_v obedient_a to_o god_n law_n have_v power_n especial_o to_o choose_v worthy_a or_o refuse_v unworthy_a priest_n mr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 306._o quote_v tertul._n exhort_v castil_v c._n 7._o for_o these_o word_n that_o all_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n come_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o again_o p._n 416._o himself_n say_v that_o episcopal_a man_n will_v hardly_o find_v any_o evidence_n in_o scripture_n or_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o church_n consist_v of_o many_o fix_a congregation_n for_o worship_n under_o the_o charge_n of_o one_o man_n nor_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n without_o the_o precede_a election_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o at_o least_o consent_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o people_n so_o much_o he_o allow_v there_o and_o something_o more_o in_o p._n 339._o where_o he_o use_v these_o word_n speak_v of_o elder_n now_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o people_n which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n etc._n etc._n by_o which_o he_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v the_o primitive_a practice_n but_o mr._n stillingfleet_n have_v as_o he_o say_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o transcribe_v some_o of_o bishop_n cranmer_n word_n they_o will_v serve_v well_o here_o and_o we_o 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doctrine_n and_o we_o find_v the_o seven_o church_n in_o as●●_n act_v thus_o and_o not_o one_o blame_v for_o the_o neglect_n 〈◊〉_d another_o in_o this_o matter_n nor_o one_o commend_v for_o th●_n good_a in_o another_o but_o each_o church_n for_o itself_o perg●mus_n blame_v for_o have_v such_o among_o they_o that_o he●_n the_o doctrine_n of_o balaam_n thyatira_n for_o suffer_v th●_n woman_n jezebel_n to_o teach_v and_o seduce_v etc._n etc._n the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n commend_v for_o try_v the_o false_a apostle_n 522._o magdib_n cent_z 1._o l._n 2._o cap_n 7._o col._n 522._o rev._n 2.2.14_o 15_o 20._o which_o clear_o shewe●_n that_o these_o church_n have_v no_o dependency_n one_o of_o an●ther_n but_o each_o have_v power_n both_o to_o try_v false_a teacher_n and_o to_o have_v cast_v they_o out_o not_o to_o have_v suffer_v the●_n among_o they_o and_o the_o not_o do_v it_o or_o the_o d●ing_n of_o it_o according_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o by_o th●_n lord_n jesus_n christ_n as_o a_o 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this_o city_n ye●_n ●en_o polycarp_n their_o bishop_n be_v call_v out_o to_o suffer_v ●●re_o be_v but_o few_o christian_n in_o that_o city_n as_o eu●ius_n history_n tell_v we_o the_o presbyterian_a divine_n ●ree_v this_o see_v smect_n p._n 40_o 41_o 43._o tertul._n also_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o these_o congregati●s_n these_o thing_n be_v do_v in_o these_o assembly_n ●●ith_o he_o we_o make_v exhortation_n and_o threaten_n 〈◊〉_d divine_a censure_n that_o banish_v sinner_n and_o ex●deth_v they_o from_o our_o communion_n we_o judge_v ●●m_fw-la say_v he_o with_o very_o great_a circumspection_n 'cause_o we_o know_v that_o god_n be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o we_o ●d_a know_v what_o we_o do_v apol._n cap._n 39_o p._n 137._o 〈◊〉_d this_o the_o magdeburg_n century_n writer_n full_o ●ree_a and_o also_o set_v forth_o the_o manner_n how_o the_o con●egations_n do_v it_o cent._n 1._o lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o col_fw-fr 158._o ●b_n 2._o cap._n 4._o col._n 358_o 359._o cap._n 6._o col._n 498._o use_v again_o they_o prove_v this_o from_o augustine_n cent._n ●_o cap._n 4._o col._n 380_o 381_o 382_o 383_o 384._o and_o ●ain_o they_o say_v from_o ambrose_n ad_fw-la valentinianum_fw-la ●peratorem_fw-la that_o those_o church_n have_v this_o pow●_n and_o none_o else_o and_o this_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v open_o the_o congregation_n the_o people_n be_v present_a cent._n ●_o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 500_o 501._o and_o that_o in_o the_o epistle_n the_o roman_a presbyter_n to_o cyprian_a it_o be_v affirm_v at_o the_o presbyter_n deacon_n and_o lay-people_n ●re_n wont_a to_o be_v together_o in_o council_n and_o to_o speak_v ●d_a confer_v their_o own_o sense_n and_o mind_n in_o these_o thing_n those_o day_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 176.152_o 153._o use_v that_o cyprian_a himself_n say_v that_o as_o the_o peo●e_n and_o whole_a church_n have_v power_n to_o choose_v their_o ●●n_fw-la minister_n so_o if_o the_o bishop_n do_v fall_v into_o he●ie_n they_o be_v depose_v by_o the_o clergy_n and_o peo●e_n and_o they_o appoint_v another_o and_o that_o it_o be_v ●t_a lawful_a for_o the_o bishop_n to_o do_v any_o thing_n herein_o without_o the_o people_n counsel_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 173_o 174_o 175_o 176._o and_o again_o they_o say_v that_o origen_n do_v rebuke_v the_o pride_n of_o some_o priest_n those_o day_n who_o do_v despise_v the_o counsel_n of_o t●_n inferior_a priest_n and_o lay-man_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o c●_n 151_o 152_o 153._o many_o more_o testimony_n may_v 〈◊〉_d offer_v for_o the_o proof_n hereof_o in_o those_o day_n no●_n deny_v it_o or_o practise_v otherwise_o for_o many_o ag●_n and_o mr._n stillingfleet_n church_n mr._n vine_n upon_o the_o sacrament_n p._n 129_o 173_o 194_o 195_o 196._o agree_v all_o this_o f●lly_n and_o also_o say_v that_o god_n give_v this_o great_a charter_n to_o the_o church_n not_o the_o emperor_n and_o that_o god_n give_v it_o to_o they_o as_o a_o church_n in_o the_o same_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 4●_n say_v as_o to_o a_o 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may_v lawful_o deny_v conformity_n to_o and_o communion_n with_o that_o church_n in_o such_o thing_n 8._o hale_n of_o schism_n p._n 8._o without_o incur_v the_o guilt_n of_o schism_n and_o give_v this_o reason_n for_o it_o if_o our_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v therefore_o lawful_a because_o she_o require_v unlawful_a thing_n as_o condition_n of_o her_o communion_n then_o wherever_o such_o thing_n be_v require_v by_o any_o church_n non-communion_n with_o that_o church_n in_o those_o thing_n will_v be_v lawful_a too_o and_o where_o say_v he_o non-communion_n be_v lawful_a there_o can_v be_v no_o schism_n in_o it_o if_o that_o justify_v our_o withdraw_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 667._o mr._n raynolds_n conference_n with_o hart_n p._n 666._o 667._o will_v it_o not_o say_v he_o justify_v man_n nonconformity_n in_o thing_n suppose_v by_o they_o to_o be_v unlawful_a and_o again_o our_o best_a writer_n against_o the_o papist_n lay_v the_o imputation_n of_o 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