Iurisdiction be of Gods institution also and duelie to be honoured in his Church and Christian common wealth as before wee haue shewed yet doe they teach the same to be far otherwise deriued and receiued from God then is Spirituall Power that is to saie not immediatlie by Gods owne deliuerie therof but mediatlie rather to witt by meditation of the law of nature and nations For by the law of nature God â—ath ordeined that there should be politicall gouernment for that otherwise no multitude could be preserued which the law of nations assuming hath transferred that gouernment vnto one or more according to the particular formes therof as Monarchie Aristocracy or Democracy or mixt wherin is to be noted that the ordination of God by the law of nature doth giue politicall Power vnto the multitude immediately and by them mediately to one or more as hath been said But Spirituall Power Christ gaue immediatly and by himself to the Apostles and their Successors by these words whatsoeuer you shall bind vpon earth the same sâ—all be bound in heauen And whatsoeuer you shall loose one earth shall be loosed in heauen Wherby you se a generall large commission graunted to them of binding loosing Quaecunque whatsoeuer without exception And the like to S. Peter as head and chiefe by speciall power and commission of those words Pasce oues meas Pasce agnos meos Feed my sheep feed my lambs thryse repeated signifying therby the Preheminence and Primacy of his Pastorall Authoritie in Gods Church as the auncient Fathers haue allwayes vnderstood the same For that to the office of Supreame feedinge is required also all other authoritie necessarie to gouerne direct commaund restraine and punish in like manner when need requireth 8. About which point is to be obserued and considered attentâ—uelie say Catholike Deuines and most learned lawyers that when God almightie giueth any office he giueth also sufficient Power and Authoritie euery way to execute that office as when he giueth the office of a King or temporal Magistrate for good of the Common-wealth he giueth Authoritie therwith not onlie to direct command and instruct but to punish and compell also yea and to extirpate and cut of those when need is that are rebellions or otherwise deserue that punishment And the like is to be obserued in Spirituall Power and Iurisdiction according to which the Ciuil law saith Cui Iurisdictio data est ea quoque concessa esse intelliguntur sine quibus Iurisdictio expleri non potuit To whosoeuer iurisdiction is giuen to him also must we vnderstand to be graunted all those thinges without which his Iurisdiction cannot be fulfilled And the Canon law to the same effect Iurisdictio nullius videretur esse momenti si coërcionem aliquam non haberet Iurisdiction would seeme to be of no moment if it had not some power to compell And finally it is a general rule giuen in the said Canon law that when anie cause is committed to anie man he is vnderstood to receiue also ful authoritie in al matters belonging to that cause 9. Out of all which is deduced that for so much as Christ our Sauiour God and Man hauing purchased to him felfe by the price of his owne blood a most deerlie beloued Church and committed the same as S. Paul saith to be gouerned by his Apostles and Bishops their successours vnto the worlds end it must needs follow that he hath indowed the same Church with sufficient spirituall Authoritie both directiue and coactiue to that end for gouerning our soules no lesse than he hath done the temporal CoÌ„monwealth for affaires of the body Nay much more by how much greater the importance is of the one than of the other as before hath been said 10. If you aske me yet more particularlie where and how by what commission and to whom Christ our Sauiour left this high Spiritual Power in his Church what it is and wherin it consisteth I answere first to the last that it consisteth as often hath been said in guiding our soules in this world to euerlasting saluation in the next Which thinge for that principallie it dependeth of this that we auoide sinnes in this life or if we committ them that they be pardoned vs or corrected by this Power Christ our Sauiour doth most aptlie giue and describe the same Power by the words of binding or loosing sinnes And therefore in the foresaid place alleadged out of S. Matthew his Ghospel he giueth the said commission as you haue heard VVhatsoeuer you shal binde or loose vpon earth shal be bound or loosed in heauen Wherby the Church of God hath allwaies vnderstood full authoritie of Iudicature to haue been giuen to the Apostles and their successors to discerne iudge binde or loose in all things belonging to this end of directing soules 11. Truth it is that diuers learned deuines are of opinion that in these places Christ did but promise to his Apostles to giue them this high iudiciall authoritie in his Church when by his death and resurrection it should be founded And that the actuall performance of this promise was made vnto them in the 20. if S. Iohns ghospell where Christ said vnto them Sicut misit me pater ego mitto vos As my father sent me so I doe send you and then presentlie breathing vpon then he addeth Receiue the Holie-ghost whose sinnes you shall forgiue they are forgiuen vnto them and whose you shal retaine they are retained Where we se that Christ speaketh now in the present tense they are forgiuen and they are retained and not in the future as before in the place of S. Matthew his ghospell And we must note that those words of our Sauiour As my father sent mee so I doe send you are vnderstood by auncient Doctors of Authoritie as though he had said that with the same power authoritie that my father sent mee into this world to gather gouerne my Church I doe also send you that is to saie withall spirituall power necessarie to your office and charge both on earth and in heanen And therfore he saith in S. Matthew his Ghospell That whatsoeuer they shall binde or loose vpon earth which are the Acts of high iudges shall be loosed or bound in heauen 12. And to S. Peter in like manner as Cheif of the rest the promise of his Supreame and singular power besides the other which out of the former general commission he receiued with the rest of the Apostles was made vnto him first in S. Matthews ghospell when Christ said Thou art Peter which signifieth a stone or rocke and vpon this rock will I build my Church and will giue vnto thee the keies of the Kingdome of heauen c. Which he perfourmed afterward in the 21. chapter of S. Iohn after his resurrection when asking him three times of his loue towards him he as manie times gaue him coÌ„mission of high-pastor ouer
doore or entrance to the Clergie by lawfull vocation and ordination is so necessarie as if it be not obserued all would grow to confusion and no man could know who hath spirituall iurisdiction ouer soules and who hath not And further he confesseth that albeit be appoint but two generall Sacraments for all sortes of people Baptisme to witt and the Lords supper yet he graunteth this Ordination of Church-ministers to be a true Sacrament also and to haue promise of grace annexed vnto it as other Sacraments haue but that it strecheth not so far as the other two doe but is particular for ministers and Clergie-men onlie 15. But then if we presse him how he and his came in by this doore he and they haue no other shift but to say that their first maisters and teachers entred in by this ordinarie vocation and ordination of our Bishops for others there were none at that time to call or ordayne them from whom afterward they disioyned themselues in doctrine to ioyne with the Apostles And this is the leap they make from our age to the Apostles time 16. But suppose they could say this of their first teachers that they had their ordination and consequentlie also their vocation and spirituall iurisdiction from our Bishops yet afterward when they fell to different doctrine and for that cause were cut of by excommunication from them and especiallie now when the said first teachers are dead and gone they can haue no other assurance of their vocation of ministerie then from the people of their owne sect in their Presbyteries as before hath byn said which how much it is or whether it may be any thing at all shall afterward be discussed 17. Now it shall be sufficient onlie for the argument of this Preface concerning the weight and importance of this Controuersie we haue with M. Attorney about spirituall iurisdiction that we consider and beare in mind the different origen from which ech partie of the foresaid three professors of Religion doe pretend to deriue their right and interest to the said spirituall iurisdiction which they exercise And what side soeuer erreth therin erreth also in the maine marke of their saluation and doth draw both themselues and their followers to euerlasting perdition And furthermore that the difference contrariety in this point is much more between Puritanes and Protestants then between them both and Catholickes For that they both doe graunt and cannot denie but that the deduction of spirituall iurisdiction in our Catholike Prelates hath come downe line-allie and successiuelie by ordination and imposition of â—ands the one of the other from the Apostles time though declined as they saie in doctrine But we on the contrary side doe inferre the suretie of our doctrine by the certaintie of this succession of Priestlie power and spirituall iurisdiction For that whersoeuer this is trulie to be found which cannot be but in the true Church there also hath Christ assured vs that by his omnipotent power and presence the puritie and certaintie of doctrine shall euer in like manner be infallibly conserued 18. But to the Protestant the Puritane doth not yeeld thus much by manie degrees and much lesse the Protestant to the Puritane For they doe not graunt the one to the other that they haue true ordination of Priests and ministers among them as to vs they doe in sâ—gne wherof if anie Priest of ours doe fall to their sideâ— they giue him no new orders but thinke him sufficientlie ordayned by vs to minister in their Church which the Protestant doth not admit in Puritane ministers but that they must be ordered againe by their Bishops as hauing no Orders before nor yet the Puritanes with the Protestant-ministers when they turne vnto them but doe appoint that he renounce his former Orders in their Congregation or Presbyterie and by new imposition of hands of the said Presbiterie he be ordayned a new minister in that profession so as by opinion and estimation of the Protestant-religion the Puritane-ministers are meere laie-men taking vpon them spirituall iurisdiction ouer soules without any lawfull authoritie or commission at al and consequentlie haue no power to preach or teach or administer Sacraments and much lesse haue they that high and excellent iudiciall authoritie to binde or loose sinnes And that which followeth also of this that they haue no Sacraments at all no Clergie no ministerie no sacred or diuine thinge but are onlie a lay companie of men and women ioyned togeather in a certaine worldlie secular society as Fish-mongers Iron-mongers Drapes and other like companies in London And the same opinion haue they of the Protestants and of their Church 19. And by this you may see how farre they differ in substance of religion though somtimes for fashion-sake they call themselues Brethren more indeed then both of them from vs as before hath byn said which proceedeth from this mayne ground Principle to wit from whence ech part draweth their Ecclesiastical Power Spiritual IurisdictioÌ„ ouer soules for that this being once found out all the rest is easie and cleere for so much as this true spirituall authoritie can be but in one partie and in one Church onlie which is the true and wheresoeuer it is found there is assurance also of all truth Christ hauing promised vs that this Church and the true Pastors thereof shall not deceiue vs nor be deceiued And therefore that we may boldlie and confidenlie heare their voice and doe that which they bid vs though otherwise in life and manners they should be as bad as Scribes and Pharises 20. And on the other side where this true authoritie and lawfull iurisdiction is not there we must not beleeue though they speake neuer so faire for that we are fore-told and fore-taught that they are but wolues in sheeps apparrel false prophets to deceiue theeues and murderers to kill and destroie other such fore-warnings left vnto vs by Christ and his Apostles All which ought to make vs vigilant attent diligent curious to vnderstand really the truth about Spirituall Iurisdiction which in the ensuing Treatise is handled so far forth as M. Attorney hath giuen occasion though nothing so largely as the thing it selfe might be discussed but yet sufficientlie for euerie discreet man to see the grounds and with that modestie also I hope as may iustlie offend no man And so I shall now passe on to ioyne with M. Attorney more neerly in the maine battaile if first by the way as it were of skirmish we shall answere somewhat in like manner to his Preface wherin diuers points are not vnworthy of consideration THE ANSWERE TO THE PREFACE of Syr Edward Cooke THE KINGES ATTORNEY About Error Ignorance and Truth and vvay to try the same CHAP. I. BEfore I come to discusse the Preface it self which I purpose to sett downe wholy as it lyeth in the Author it shall not be amisse perhaps Gentle Reader to speake a
as in the precedent demonstration you haue heard yet in Ecclesiasticall and Church-matters they had all one and the self same lawes though they were different Kings and enemyes for the most part one to the other liuing in continâ—all warrs for the suspition the one had that the other would encroache vpon him And yet shall you neuer reade that any of them did goe about to punish a Priest or Clergie man for bringing in any Ecclesiasticall ordinance function or order from his enemyes countreyes which is an euident argument that all was one in Ecclesiasticall matters and consequently that these lawâ—â— and ordinances did not proceed from any of the Kings authority in their particular Kingdomes for then would not the other haue receaued the same but from one generall body and head which is the Church and vniuersall gouernour therof 17. To all which may be added this consideration of one Metropolitan the Archbishop of Canterbury who had the spirituall iurisdiction ouer the far greatest part of all these English Kingâ— Dominions wherof diuers were enemyes in temporall mattâ—â—â— to the King of Kent in whose territoryes his Bishopricke and Residence was yet did no one of all these other Kings except against this his spirituall authority ecclesiasticall iurisdiction in matters belonging to Religion which doth euidently demonstrate that this Ecclesiasticall power of the said Archbishop was a different thing from the temporall of these Princes and placed in a different person and that all these Kings were one in acknowledgemeÌ„t of obedience vnto this spirituall iurisdiction though in other things ech man had his temporall power and State a part But if these powers were combyned togeather in the person of the Prince and annexed to his Crowne and Scepter as M. Attorney doth pretend then would ech of them haue had a seuerall Metropolitan vnder him independent the one of the other which we see was neuer attempted but all acknowledged the said Archbishop of Canterbury or the other of Yorke in their districts acâ—ording to the power and limitations giuen them by the Bishop of Rome as already hath byn declared And though much more might be said in this point and many particularities alleadged which for breuities sake I omitt yet this already said will suffice to shew the force of this argument 18. One thing only I may not let passe to aduertise the reader of which is a certaine wyly slight deuised by M. Attorney to decline the force and euidence of this proofe saying that albeit those Ecclesiasticall lawes were taken from others yet being allowed and approued by the temporall prince they are now his lawes But this shift is refuted by that which already we haue sett downe before For if one the self-same Ecclesiasticall law receaued by seauen Kings and Kingdomes ioyntly within our land shal be said to be ech Kings proper lawes for that they are approued and receaued by him his realme then shall one and the self-same law haue seauen authors yea more then seauenty for that so many Kingdomes and States as through-out Christendome shall receaue the same Ecclesiasticall and Canon-law for example made and promulgated by the generall Pastor therof ech particuler Prince I say admitting the same as he is bound to doe if he be truly Catholike shal therby be said to be the particular author therof which is no lesse ridiculous then if a man should say that euery prouince in France admitting a law made by the King in Paris should be the seuerall makers of that law But for that I shall haue occasion perhaps to handle this point more at large afterward I shall say no more now but passe to another Demonstration The third Demonstration 19. The third Demonstration consisteth in this that in all the tyme of our Christian Kings before the Conquest being aboue an hundred in number in the space of almost fiue hundred yeares as before hath byn said all doubts or difficulties of greatest importance that fell out about Ecclesiasticall busines or meÌ„ all weighty consultations and recourse for remedy of iustice and decisions in Ecclesiasticall causes of most moment were not made to the Kings of our Realme nor to their Tribunalls but to the Bishops of Rome for the tyme being as lawfull iudges therof both by the subiects and Princes themselues and consequently those Princes did not hold themselues to be heads of their Churches nor did thinke that they had supreme Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction deriued from their Crownes And this point is so euident in 〈◊〉 the course of our ancient English histories so aboundant to amples doe euery-where offer themselues to this effect as a whole booke might be made of this point only But I shal be myndfull of breuity and out of many and almost infinite examples name a few obseruing also some order of tyme therin 20. We haue said somwhat before in the next precedent demonstration of the beginning of spirituall Iurisdiction exercise therof in England by S. Augustine our first Archbishop vnder Gregory the Pope both of them our Apostles who did exercise and put in vre spirituall iurisdiction ouer all the Church of England without reference to K. Ethelbert though he were a Christian and a very good Christian King And when the sayd S. Augustine dyed he remitted not the matter to the said King to appoint an Archbishop after him but by concession of the Sea Apostolike did nominate two that should succeed him in order Laurentius and Mellitus vpon the yeare of Christ 604. as S. Bede doth testifie And some six yeres after that againe the said Mellitus being Bishop of London and hauing begun to buyld a certaine Monasterie at the west part of that Citty called afterward VVestminster intending to make it a Seminary of Bishops and Clergie-men for the spirituall help of the whole realme he esteâ—med it of such importance as for that and other such Ecclesiasticall affaires he went to Rome to take direction therin from Pope Boniface the 4. who thervpon called a Synod togeather in Rome de necessarys Ecclesiae Anglorum causis ordinaturus saith Bede to ordeine what was conuenient about the necessary occasions of the English Church And that Mellitus had his seat and place also as Bishop of London in that Synod To the end saith he that he retourning into Britany should carry the ordinations of this Synod to be obserued by the Church os England and Clergie therof And further he addeth that â—â—nisacius the Pope wrote letters by the said Mellitus as well to Lauâ—ence then Archbishop of Canterbury as to Ethelbert their King and to the whole nation of English-men though now the said leâ—ters be not extant yet herby it is euident what authoritie they acknowledged in those daies to be in the Bishop and Sea of Roâ—â— about English affaires and that neither King Ethelbert of Kenâ— nor King Sebert of London and Essex being both Christian princes did repyne therat as
said King and Bishops tooke vnto themselues wholesome counsaile choosing and ordeyning particular Bishops in euery prouince of the Geuisses or westsaxons And wheras the said prouince had but two Bishops in old time now they deuided the same into fiue and presently the Synod being ended the said Archbishop was sent to Rome with honourable presents Qui Papam saith our Authour cum magna humilitate placauit Decretum Regis recitauit quod Apostolico maximè placuit He did with great humilitie endeauour to pacify the said Pope Formosus reciting vnto him the decree that King Edward had made for better furnishing the Countrey with more Bishops for the time to come then euer had byn before which most of all pleased the Apostolicall Pope Wherfore the Archbishop retourning into England ordeyned in the Citty of Canterbury seaueu Bishops vpon one day appointing them seuen distinct Bishoprickes Atque hoc totum saith he Papa firmauit vt damnaretur in perpetuum qui hoc decretum infirmaret And the Pope Formosus did confirme this decree of this distinction of Bishops in England daÌ„ning him eternally which should goe about to infringe the same So Malmesbury and consider the authority here vsed 58. The same Pope also wrote a letter to the Bishopps of England by the said Archbishop Pleamond in these wordes To our brethren and children in Christ all the Bishopps of England Formosus We hauing heard of the wicked rytes of Idolatrous Pagans which haue begun to spring vp againe in your partes and that yow haue held your peace as dumme doggs not able to barke we had determined to strike you all with the sword of separation from the body of Christ and his Church but for so much as our deere brother Pleamond your Archbishop hath tolde me that at length you are awakened and haue begun to renew the seed of Gods word by preaching which was so honourably sowne from this Sea in times past in the land of England we haue drawne backe and stayed the deuouring sword and moreouer doe send you the benediction of almighty God and of S. Peter Prince of the Apostles praying for you that you may haue perseuerance in the good things which you haue well begune c. 59. Thus went that letter with a far longer exhortation â—â— that behalfe with order and instruction how to proceed to coâ—tinew good Bishopps among them which was that as soone â—â— knowledge came to the Metropolitan of any Bishop dead he should presently without delay cause another Canonically to be elected in his place and himself to consecrate the same And moreouer he determineth that the Bishop of Canterbury hath byn euer from ancient times held for chiefe Metropolitan of England otdeyened so by S. Gregory himself as in the Roman Registers was authenticall recorded and therefore he confirmeth the same threatning that what man soeuer shall goe about to infringe this decree shal be separated perpetually from the body of Christ and his Church So Malmesbury 60. And in this example we see many points expressing the sense of these ages as first the vigilancy of the Pope Formosus ouer England the affaires therof though far remote from him and altogether embroyled with warrs no lesse then ouer other Prouinces Kingdomes of the world which is conforme to that which S. Bede writeth of the like diligence of Pope Agatho aboue two hundred yeares before this of Formosus that is to say that he seing the heresie of Monethelites that held but one only will in Christ to spring vp and encrease in diuerse places of the world sent one expressly from Rome into England to learne what passed there Pope Agatho saith Bede being desirous to vnderstand as in other prouinces so also in Britany what was the state of the English Church and whether it preserued it self chaste and vnspotted from the contagions of heretickes sent into England for this purpose a most reuerend Abbot named Iohn who procuring a Synod of Bishops to be gathered togeather about that matter by Theodorus the Archbishop found that the Catholike faith in England was conserued in all points entire and inuiolated of which Synod he had an authenticall copie deliuered him by publicke testimony to be carryed to Rome Thus S. Bede touching the attention and diligence of Pope Agatho in our English Ecclesiasticall affaires 61. And it is to be noted that in the same Synod is sett downe that fower seuerall Kings concurred thervnto to giue therby satisfaction vnto the Pope to wit Egfryd King of the Northumberâ— Ethelred of the Mercians Adelnulphus of the Eastangles Lotharius of Kent which is conforme to that which the King Edward the first â—â— the former example did when presently vpon the threatning letters of Pope Formosus he called forthwith a Councell remedyed the fault that was committed sent the Archbishop Pleamond to Rome to giue satisfaction and promise of amendment for the time to come which is to be presumed that none of these Kings would haue done if they had thought themselues iniured by this intermedling of the Pope as an externall power and that themselues had authority Ecclesiasticall deriued from their crownes to dispose order these things without any reference to the Sea Apostolike And so much for this argument and demonstration which openeth a window to see many things more which by me of purpose are pretermitted for that I couet not to be ouerlong The sixt Demonstration 62. The sixt Argument may be deduced from an vniuersall contemplation of all the Kings Archbishops and Bishops that haue liued and raigned togeather in all this tyme in England and the seuerall Prouinces and Kingdomes therof before the Conquest the Kings being in number aboue an hundred that were Christened as often before hath byn mentioned the Archbishops of Canterbury the spirituall heads of the English Church 32. from S. Augustine vnto Stigano and other Bishops of far greater number laying before our eyes what manner of men all these were what faith they beleeued and practised what vnion and subordination they had in spirituall and temporall iurisdiction amongst them selues both at home and abroad with the Sea Apostolike which in great part hath byn declared by the precedent arguments and demonstrations All which being layd togeather we may inferre that for so much as lawes are nothing else but ordinaunces and agreemenrs of the Prince and people to the publicke good of euery Kingdome State and Countrey we may inferre I say that according as we find the faith and religion of our Princes Bishops and people to haue byn in those dayes so were also their lawes For out of their religion they made their lawes and consequently it must needes follow that they being all perfectly Catholike according to the Roman vse as by all the former arguments you haue seene that they made no lawes concerning Ecclesiasticall matters nor admitted â—onceaued any from their ancestours nor could not doe they being also
which is intituled De temporibus diabus pacis Domini Regis Of the times and daies of peace and freedome of our Lord the King he doth explicate that it belongeth to the King and his officers to see these liberties of Ecclesiasticall peace franquises and freedome be exactlie obserued to Ecclesiasticall persons especiallie to punish them double which refuse to put in execution the Bishops sentence of iustice Quod si aliquis â—i foris fecerit saith he Episcopus inde iustitiam faciat veruâ—tamen si quis arrogans pro Episcopali iustitia emendare noluerit Episcopâ—â— Regi notum faciat Rex autem constringet malefactorem vt emendet cui foris facturum fecit scilicet primum Episcopo deinde Regi sic erunt ibi due gladij gladius iuuabit If anie man shall doe anie hurt to him that hath the peace of the Church let the Bishop doe him Iustice but if anie man will bee arrogant not make amends according to the sentence of iustice giuen by the Bishop let the Bishop make it knowne to the King or his Courts and the King shall constraine the malefactor to make amends to him vnto whom hee did the hurte to wit first vnto the Bishop and then to the King and so there shall bee two swords against malefactors and the one sword shall help the other And heere let be considered what he saith of two swords one in the Bishops hand and the other in the Kings and that this must assist that of the Bishops as the principall superiour which is conforme to the speach of K. Edgar if you remember whereof we made mention in the former Chapter and last demonstration therof Wherby is made euident that these auncient Kings beleeued not to any haue spirituall sword or authoritie by right of their Crowns but onlie the temporall to command punish in temporall affaires and to help and assist the others in causes belonging vnto them 18. The third law hath this Title De Iustitia Sanctae Ecclesiae Of the iustice of the holy Church and prerogatiue therof which she is to receiue in temporall tribunals In which law is determined in these words Vbicunque Regis iustitia vel cuiuscunque sit placita tenuerit si vllus Episcopus venerit illuc aperuerit causam Sanctae Ecclesiae ipsa prius terminetur Iustitia enim est vt Deus vbique prae caeteris honoretur Whâ—rsoeuer the Kings Iustice or the Iustice of what other Lord soeuer shall hold pleas or keep courts if any Bishop come thither and open a cause of the holy Church let that cause of all other be first determined for it is iust that God be honoured euery where before all other Marke his reason why the expedition of the Bishops cause is to be preferred before that of the King for that he holdeth the place of God and thereafter must be respected 19. The fourth law hath this Title De vniuersis tenentibus de Ecclesia Of the priuiledges of all those that are any way tenants of the Church And then it followeth in the law Quicunque de Ecclesia aliquid tenuerit vel in fundo Ecclesiae mansionem habuerit extra curiam Ecclesiasticam coactus non placitabit quamuis foris fecerit nisi quod absit in Curia Ecclesiastica rectum defecerit Whosoeuer doth hold any thing of the Church or hath his mansion-house within the land of the Church shall not be constrained to plead any matter of his though he bee a malefactor out of the spirituall courte except which God forbid iustice could not be had in the said Ecclesiasticall court 20. These are the first lawes of all that were made by King VVilliam and after these doe ensue fiue more to the same effect of Churches priuiledges wherof the first hath this Title De reis ad Ecclesiam fugientibus Of malefactors that fly to the Church how they are to haue Sanctuary and protection The second De fractione pacis Ecclesiae Of breaking the peace of the Church that is to say of her priuiledges the breakers wherof are appointed to be sharply punished first by the Bishop then by the King if he be arrogant The third De decimis Ecclesiae maioribus Of the greater tythes belonging to the Church The fourth De minut is decimis Of lesser tythes all which are commaunded to be payed exactly And finally the fifth law which is the tenth in order hath this Title De denario S. Petri qui Anglicè dicitur Rome-scot Of Peter-pence called in old English Rome-scot wherin is appointed the order how the said Peter-pence shall be gathered and made ready against the feast of S. Peter and S. Paul or at the furthest against the feast of S. Peters Chaines as we haue seen also before ordeined by the law of K. Kanutus By all which is vnderstood and much to be considered that neither K. VVilliam nor any of his auncestors tooke vpon them to make any Ecclesiasticall law at all of spirituall matters as of their owne but only did second and strenthen and confirme the lawes of the Church by their temporall lawes by defending the same and punishing the breakers therof Which is a far different thing from the Ecclesiasticall power which M. Attorney will needs haue vs beleeue to haue byn in the auncient Kings of England according to the meaning of the auncient Common-lawes therof but produceth none And I persuade my self he will hardly alleadge me any so auncient as these though he haue studied them as he saith 35. years but fiue hundred more were necessary to find out that which he affirmeth And thus much of lawes for the present 21. There remaineth only one argument more concerning K. VVilliam which is the time of his death and of what sense and iudgment he was in this point at that time when commonly men doe se more cleerly the truth of matters especially Princes then before in their life health and prosperity when passion honour or interest may oftentimes either blind or byasse them And albeit of K. VVilliam diuers ancient writers doe recorde that notwithstanding in his anger vnto secular men he was fierce terrible yet vnto Ecclesiasticall persons he bare still great respect wherof among others this example is recorded by Nubergensis that when at a certaine time Archbishop Aldred of Yorke that had crowned him and was much reuerenced by him while he liued intreating him for a certaine pious worke and not preuailing turned his back and went away with shew of displeasure the Conquerour tooke hold of him and fell downe at his feet promising to doe what he would haue him and when the Nobles that stood round about began to cry to the Arch-bishop that he should take vp the King quickly from his knees he answered let him alone he doth but honour the feet of S. Peter in kneeling at myne Which well declareth saith Nubergensis both what great reuerence
Church-causes wherof M. Attorney as before you haue seen setteth downe a longe catalogue of such causes as cannot be iudged by the temporal law but must necessarily be remitted to spirituall Courts all these things I say matters and affaires were left as fully and wholy in the hands of the Bishops and English-Clergy with their subordination to their head the Pope by this K. Henry as by any of his predecessours or successours without the intermedling of any secular man therin as iudge or hauing authority Ecclesiasticall as of him self but only by way of intercession And this may be proued by infinite examples but none more apparant then by the practice of elections and promotions of Ecclesiasticall persons wherin though since that time by agreement of the Sea Apostolike Catholike temporall Princes haue for the most parte denomination and presentation yet then they had notâ— but that all elections were free to the Chapters of Churches and monasteries the confirmation commonly was sought at Rome and the King had no more parte therin but only that the said elections must be made by his leaue so presented to the Pope for confirmation 15. And of this other like matters we might giue examples without end for that euery day they fell out As for example vpon the yeare 1226. which was the tenth yeare of K. Henries raigne the Bishop of Durham Richard being dead the K. endeauoured greatly to bring in a certaine chaplaine of his named Luke into that dignity delt earnestly with the Prior CoueÌ„t of that Câ—â—rch to whom the election belonged to further the same But they holding the man vnworthy saith Mathew Paris for so great a dignity chose a learned and vertuous Priest that was Archdeacon of VVorcester named VVilliam Scot praying the King to be content therewith and so sent him to Rome to be confirmed by Pope Honorius the 3. But K. Henry being offended therewith sent the Bishop of Chichester with another Prior for his Embassadours to Rome to contradict the said election and thereby hâ—ld it in suspension for two years vntill Pope Honorius being dead and Gregory the 9. succeeding in his place he did reiect both the one and the other before named and translated vnto Durham Richard Bishop of Salisbury And the same yeare determined also that great controuersie saith our Author that had lasted diuers years between the Prior and Couent of the Monks of Couentry and the Deane and Chapter of the Chanons of Lichfield which of them should choose their Bishop and the said Popes determination was that one parte should choose him one tyme and the other the other but yet so as the Prior of Couentry should alwayes haue the first voice in both elections neither did the King contradict this ordination 16. Moreouer in this verie same yeare of 1228 died Cardinall Stephen Langhton Archbishop of Canterbury with whome and against whom K. Iohn moued so great troubles as before you haue heard who being dead and the monkes according to order hauing obtained licence of the King to make their election of a new they chose a monke of their owne called VValter Hemesham but the King after some deliberation not liking of him began to laie diuers obiections against him as may bee seen in our Author that liued in those daies But hee appealing to the Pope went to Rome whervpon the King setting downe his obiections in writing sent the Bishops of Rochester and Chester togeather with the Archdeacon of Bedford for his Embassadours to contradict the same also whome Pope Gregorie hauing heard and considered for diuers moneths togeather gaue sentence the next yeare after against him and at the instance both of the King Suffragan Bishops of Canterbury elected of himself into that dignitie one Richard that was Chauncellour of the Bishoâ— of Lincolne Virum eminentis scientiae literatura conuersationis â—â— nestae saith our Author A man of eminent knowledg and learning and honest conuersation though he doe add this that to obtaine this election of the Pope to reiect the othâ—â— the said Kings messengers offered that his maiesty the Realme should be coÌ„tent to graunt to his Holines a tenth ouer all England for his warrs against Fredericke the Emperour But howsoeuer that was this proueth euidently the acknowledgment of his supreme Ecclesiasticall authority ouâ—r England by this King as doe infinite other things which are ouer many to be recouÌ„ted in this place 17. For first this verie Archbishop Richard being procured as you haue seen with such diligence by the King three years after his election to witt vpon the yeare of Christ 1231. when the King in a Parlament holden at VVestminster exacted as well of the Clergie as of the laitie a certaine payment or contribution of money called Scutagium not accustomed to be paied before the said Archbishop with his Bishops audacter resistentes dixerunt quod non tenerentur viri Ecclesiastici iudicio subijci laicorum boldlie resisting said vnto the King that Clergie-men were not bouÌ„d to be vnder the iudgment of Lai-men in the Parlament And moreouer the said Archbishop going priuatelie afterward to the King complained much of his high Iusticer Hubert de Burgo Earle of Kent for detaining certaine lands belonging to the Sea of Canterbury and a little after not receauing satisfaction from the King he pronounced excommunication against the said Hubert and other detainers and all that should keepe them companie except onlie the King himself and hauing done this he appealed to Rome and went thither himself Against whome the King sent one Roger de Cantelù and diuers other learned men for his procurators whome Pope Gregorie the nynth hauing heard gaue sentence for the said Archbishop Richard against the King Proposuerunt autem in contrarium Clerici Regis saith Matthew Paris pro ipso Rege Iusticiario multa inaniter allegantes sed parum vel nihil profecerunt quia causa Archiepiscopi iusta erat fauorabilis The Kings Clarks and Procurators proposed manie thinges to the contrarie in fauour of the King and his Iusticer but of no moment and consequentlie they profited little or nothing with the Pope for that the Archbishops cause was both iust and fauourable See heer againe the Popes authoritie in practice 18. And when this good Archbishop Richard dying in his way homeward left the Church void againe of a Pastor the Prior and Couent of Canterbury chose for Archbishop one Raph Neâ—il Bishop of Chester and Cauncelour of the Realme wherat the King being verie glad sent his messengers togeather with the partie chosen and the monkes that accompanied him to Rome for his confirmation But Pope Gregorie vpon the information of one Simon de Langituna to whom the examination of the person was committed did refuse him as an vnlearned man and a Courtyer and vnapt to preach or teach but indeed as some suspected least being a great lawyer and of much authoritie
his flocke Pasce oues meas pasce agnos meos c. 13. This Spirituall and Ecclesiasticall Power then which Christ hath left for gouerning his Church though it be to be exercised heere vpon earth and by men yet is it iustlie called by holie fathers not humane Power but diuine and heauenlie both for that it was giuen immediatelie and exercised also by Christ himself that came from heauen and for that it tendeth to heauen and is approued in heauen yea to vse the Phrase of S. Chrisostome and other Fathers directeth and commaundeth the verie Tribunall of heauen which heauenlie Power on earth S. Paul as an Apostle extraordinary hauing extraordinarilie also receiued not by man but by Iesus Christ as himself doth signifie did so much glorie of as he wrote to the Corinthians If I should glorie some what of our Power which Christ hath giuen vs to edification and not to destruction I would not blush at it And a litle before in the same Chapter he saith Nam arma militiae nostrae non carnalia sunt sed potentia Deo c. For the armour of our warrfare are not carnall or wordlie armes but are power from God In promptu habentes vlcisci omnem inobedientiam c. hauing speedy means to reuenge all inobedience And yet further to the said Corinthians within two Chapters after Quoniam si venero iterum non parcam If I come vnto you againe I will not spare to punish And a little after in the same place Ideo absens scribo vt non durius agam secundum potestatem quam Dominus dedit mihi I doe write vnto you absent to the end that when I shall come and be present with you I be not forced to deale more roughly according to the Power which our Lord hath giuen me 14. Beholde the dreadfull Spirituall Power which S. Paul affirmeth to be giuen to him by Christ as well to punish as to instruct and direct and according to this Power he writeth againe to the said Corinthians Quid vultis in virga veniam ad vos an in charitate spiritu mansuetudinis what will you haue mee doe shall I come vnto you in the power of the rodd or in loue and spirit of mildnes As who would saie choose which you will And note that heer the Power of correction giuen to the Apostles their successours is called the rodd in respect of strikinge as before in the words of Christ it was called the key of the kingdome of heauen and the power of binding and loosing sinnes in regard of the dreadfull shutting or opening heauen or hell gates vnto vs. And accordinge to this power S. Paul afterward exercised iudgment gaue sentence in a certaine grieuous case of Incest among the said Corinthians in these words Ego autem absens corpore praesens autem spiritu iam iudicani vt praesens eum qui sic operatus est I though absent in body yet present with you in spirit haue giuen iudgment vpon him that hath committed this sinne as though I were present in body And the same Apostle writinge to his scholler Timothie doth tell of another sentence and iudgment pronounced by him vpon Hymenaeus and Alexander two seditions and hereticall men quos tradidi Sathanae saith he whome I haue deliuered ouer to Sathan which is as much to saie as I haue excommunicated cut them of from the Church of God wherby they come to be no more in the protection of Christ but in the power and protection of Sathan 15. And the like Spirituall Iudgment was exercised by S. Peter vpon Simon Magus when he said vnto him Non est tibi pars neque sors in sermone isto Thou hast no parte nor participation with vs in this word of God which we preach By which words of S. Peter the 30. Canon of the Apostles doth affime Simon Magus to haue bene excommunicated and cut of from the number of Christians and from all spirituall benefit belonging thervnto Which if we beleue S. Augustine was a more greiuous and dreadfull punishment than if he had been sentenced to be burned vvith fire drowned vvith vvater or pearced through vvith a temporall sworde In consideration wherof holie S. Chrysostome cryed out in his time Nemo contemnat vinculae Ecclesiastica non enim homo est qui ligat sed Christus qui nobis hant potestatem dedit Oh let no man contemne the chaines which ecclesiasticall power laieth vpon him in bindinge or loosinge his sinnes for it is not man that bindeth but Christ which hath giuen vnto vs that are Gouernours of his Church this power And S. Augustine againe Alligatur bomo amarius infaelicius Ecclesia clauibus quam quibuslibet grauissimis durissimis ferreis vel adamantini◠nexibus A man is bound more bitterlie miserably by the keyes of the Church than by any most greiuous sharpe iron or adamāt bounds Wherof the holy Martyr and Bishop S. Cyprian gaue the reason before them both sayinge That in the old law vvhich vvas Carnall God gaue cōmaundement that such as were rebellious to their Priests and Iudges should be slaine vvith the sword But now in the lavv of Christ that is Spirituall proude and disobedient men are commaunded to be slaine eternallie vvith the spirituall svvord vvhich is their castinge out from the Church out of vvhich they cannot haue life 16. This then is the Spirituall and Ecclesiasticall dreadfull Power which Christ hath planted in his Church by his owne immediate commission for gouerninge the same in the affaires of our soules vnto the worlds end And heere we may note also that the same is double or of two sortes The one internall concerning mans conscience onlie by loosinge or bindinge sinnes by means of Sacraments The other is external Iurisdiction in hearing iudging and determining causes in publicke affaires that doe fall out in the Church tending to the same end and this distinction is founded in the words of Christ himself as well for binding and loosing of sinnes in respect of our conscience as also in that he addeth Si ecclesiam non audierit sit tibi tanquam Ethnicus Publicanus If he heare not the Church let him be to thee as a Heathen or Publican that is to say as holy Fathers expound let him be excomunicated cast out from the Church and then fled and auoided as one seperated by the authoritie of the said Church from all communion and fruite of Christian religion as much as if he were an Infidell or Publican Which meaning of our Sauiour S. Paul well vnderstandinge said of like men Auferte malum ex vobisipsis Take away and seperate the euill from among your selues which words S. Augustine expoundinge saith to be as much as if he had said Hominem malum pernicipsum à vobis seperate per excommunicationem Doe you seperate from your selues an
the manner of the Power deliuered to them both and you shall see the Priests tribunall much higher then that of the King who hath receiued onlie the administration of earthly things Nequè vltra potestatem hanc quicquam habet pratereà authoritatis Neither hath he any authoritie beyond this earthlie Power But the Priests tribunall is placed in heauen and hath authoritie to pronounce sentence in heauenlie affaires And who affirmeth this The King of heauen himself who saith vvhatsoeuer you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heauen and vvhatsoeuer you shal loose shall bee loosed Heer you see heauen to take principall authority of iudging from earth for that the Iudge sitteth on earth and our Lord followeth his feruant so as whatsoeuer the said seruant shall iudge heere beneath that will his maister allow in heauen So S. Chrysostome 24. And consider heere good Reader that this holie Father and Doctor wrote all this in Constantinople where the Emperour was present and many Courtyers togeather with the Empresse herself auerted from him for his seueritie of discipline and ready to note and take aduauntage against any thinge that he should say And yet was this doctrine neuer obiected against him as iniurious to the Emperour or to his Emperiall crowne notwithstanding as you see he speaketh plainlie both about the Subordination of temporall and spirituall Povver the one to the other as also that the Emperour had the one and not the other And if the same Father should preach this doctrine at Paules Crosse in these our daies he would be hissed out and be called into question of treason by the tenor of M. Attorneyes booke so far are our tymes differeÌ„t from these But God his truth are alwayes one 25. And to this very same effect might I alleadg heere the sayings and doings of diuers other auncient Fathers and Bishops for all were of one spirit opinion and faith in this behalfe but it would bee ouerlonge yet S. Ambrose I cannot omitt who in two or three occasioÌ„s with the Christian Emperours of his time did expresse most manifestly the iudgement of the Catholike Church in those daies The first wherof was with Valentinian the the younger who being induced by the Empresse Iustina to commaund S. Ambrose Bishop of Millaine to dispute with AuxentiuS the Arrian Bishop and other of his Sect before the Emperour and his Counsellours and whole courte in his pallace he refused the same and gaue his reasons to the said Emperour in a seuerall booke which beginneth thus Clementissimo Imperatori Beatissimo Augusto Valentiniario Ambrosius Episcopus c. and then he setteth downe how the Tribune Dalmatius with a publike Notarie did cite him in the Emperours name to come to that conference or disputation and what he answered vnto him which was in these words I answered saith he that which your Father of glorious memorie Vaelentinian the elder not only answered in speach vpon like occasion but confirmed also by his lawes that in causes belonging to faith Priests only should iudge of Priests Yea further also that if a Bishop should bee called in question for his manners this iudgment likewise should appertaine vnto Bishops And who then of vs doe answere more peruerslie wee that would haue you like your Father or they that would haue you vnlike him c. Quando audisti Clementissime Imperator laicos in causa fidei de Episcopo iudicasse When haue you euer heard most Clement Emperour that lay men did iudge Bishops in matters of faith Certè si vel scripturaerum seriem diuinarum vel vetera tempora retractemus quis est qui abnuat in causa fidei in causa inquam fidei Episcopos solere de Imperatoribus Christianis non Imperatores de Episcopis indicare Truly if we will consider either the whole course of diuine scriptures or the vse of auncient times no man can deny but that in matrers of faith I say in matters of faith Bishops were wont to iudge of Christian Emperours and not Emperours of Bishops Eris Deo sauente etiam senectutis maturitate prouectior tunc de hoc censebis qualis ille Episcopus sit qui laicu ius sacerdotale substernit Pater nunc vir maturioris aeui dicebat Non est meum iudicare inter Episcopos Tua nunc dicet Clementia Ego debeo iudicare You shall be by Gods fauour by the maturitie of old age you being now in your youth better informed and then you will be able to iudge better of this point what manner of Bishop he is to be accounted that subiecteth the right of Priestdome to laie men your Father being a man of riper yeares said It belongeth not to me to be Iudge amongst Bishops And will your Clemencie say now that you ought to be their Iudge so S. Ambrose in this occasion 27. The next yeare after with the same Valentinian who by instigation of the said Arrians fauoured by Iustina the Empresse decreed that a Church in Millaine should be giuen vnto them S. Ambrose resistinge the same had a notable combat which besides other Authors himself setteth downe at large in a certaine epistle to his sister Marcellina where shewing the solemne denuntiation of the Emperours Decree vnto him with his answere he saith Conuenerunt me primò viri comites Consistoriani c. First there came vnto me certaine Earles of the Court to commaund me to deliuer the Church c. I answered that which belongeth to a man of my order that the Church could not be giuen vp by a Priest c. Ego mansi in munere missam faecere caepi dum â—ffero raptum cognout c. I continued on in my Priestlie function I began to say masse and whilest I was offering I vnderstood that one of the aduersarie parte was taken by the people I began bitterlie to weep and beseech God in my oblation that he would help that no bloud might be shed in this cause of the Church but that my bloud only if it were his holie will might bee shed not only for saftie of the people but also for the wicked sorte themselues c. The Emperours Earles and Tribunes vrged me againe that I should deliuer the Church sayinge Imperatorem iure suo vti eò quòd in potestate eius essent omnia Respondi quae diuina sunt Imperatoriae popotestaeti non esse subiectae c. They said that the Emperour did but vse this owne right and due authoritie for that all was in his power I answered that those things that were diuine beloÌ„ged to God are not subiect to the Emperours power So S. Ambrose for defence of this his particular Church against the Emperours commaundement which notwithstanding was but a materiall Church as you see and yet he said the cause vvas diuine and not subiect to the Emperors power but to a higher authoritie of the clergie 27. And yet further when the said Tribunes sent
other especiallie in these points following which Catholike deuines and Canon-lawyers doe larglie handle But I shall breiflie touch the sunne onlie in this place so far is it may appertaine to better decision of this our controuersie Noting first by the way for the Reader his better aduertisement that these two Powers of Spirituall and Temporall Iurisdiction being different as hath been said and hauing so different ends and obiects and proceeding so differentlie from God by different means and manners and that they may be separated and remaine seuerally and alone in different subiects as they did for diuers ages togeather in the primitiue Church All this I saie being so it followeth that it is no good argument but rather a manifest fallacie to inferre the one of the other as to saie he hath spiritual Iurisdiction ouer me and therfore also temporall which followeth not and much lesse the contrarie he hath temporall Authoritie ouer any ergo spiritual also And least of all as M. Atorney argueth euery-where A Prince or Monarch hath supreame authoritie temporal ergo also spirituall for that the one may be without the other as comming downe from one origen by different means and to different ends as before hath been declared Now then let vs passe to the decisions aboue mencioned for due Subordination in these two Powers THE THIRD PART OF THIS CHAPTER Shewing how these two Povvers and Iurisdictions may stand well togeather in agreement peace and vnion 4. II. 33. The first affertion both of Deuines and Canonists is that notwithstanding the former Prerogatiues of Spirituall Power aboue Temporall yet when they are conioyned in one Common-wealth as they haue been in the Catholike Church for these thirteene hundred years at least since the Conuersion of Constantine the Emperour the Cleargie and Ecclesiasticall persons of euerie Realme as members of that Common-wealth are subiect vnto the Emperour King or other head of that Ciuill and politicke body or Common-wealth in al temporall laws and ordinances not contrary to Gods law nor the Cannons of holie Church and are punishable for the same though not in temporall courts but spirituall as after ward in the third assertion shall be declared As for example when the Ciuill magistrate appointeth things to be solde at such or such price that no man goe by night with armes or carry out cōmodities of the Realme without licence and the like cleargie men as Cittizens of the Common-wealth are subiect also vnto these laws which are made for direction of of the Common-wealth to peace aboundance and prosperitie and consequentlie are to be obserued also by Bishops Priests and Cleargie-men 34. And in this sense are to be vnderstood the words both of our Sauiour and his Apostles when they ordaine all obedience to be exhibited by all Christians to their temporall Princes without exception of anie yea though they were euill men or infidells AS namely where S. Paul saith Omnia anima potestatibus sublimioribus subdita sit Let euery soule be subiect to higher powers which S. Peter expoundeth siuè Regi siuè Ducibus c. Whether it be to Kings Dukes and the like Vpon which place to S. Paul the holie Doctor S. Chrysostome inferreth that politicall and temporall laws are not abrogated by the ghospell but that both Priests and monkes are bound to obey the same in temporall affairs And Valentinian the good Christian Emperour in a certaine Epistle of his to the Bishops of Asia aboue 12. hundred years gone said◠that good Bishops doe obey not only the laws of God but of Kings likewise Which Pope Nicolas the first writing to Michaell the Emperour doth proue when he saith that Christian Emperours doe need Bishops for the attaining of euerlasting life But that Bishops doe need Kings and Emperours onlie to vse their laws for their direction in temporall affaires And finally the matter is cleer not onlie by the testimonie and practise of the primitiue Church say our Deuines but also by reason it selfe For that if any sorte of people should liue in a Common-wealth and not obserue the laws therof it would be a perturbation to the whole And for that these Ciuill laws albeit their immediate end be temporall good yet may the obseruation therof be referred also to a higher spirituall end by good men and therfore are all good subiects bound to obey them And this for the first point 35. The second is that in causes meere Ecclesiasticall and Spirituall which appertaine to Religion Faith Sacraments holie Orders and the like and are to be determined out of the ghospell Councells Canons and Doctors of the Church In all these affaires Catholike deuines holde that Ecclesiasticall persons are no way subiect to temporall Princes for the reasons before alleadged of preheminēcy of Spiritual Power aboue Temporal in these affaires In respect wherof the holie auncient Bishops did stand with Christian Emperours and auerre their Authoritie to be aboue the others as before out of S. Gregorie Nazianzen S. Ambrose S. Chrisostome and others you haue heard declared So as heere you se a mutuall Subordination of Preists to Princes in Ciuill and temporall matters and of Princes to Preists and Bishops in spirituall affaires which according to S. Gregorie Nazianzen his comparison before mencioned may thus be expressed that the soule in matters of this life though with some griefe and regreate of spirit in good men is bound to follow the direction and law of the body for health strength and other such corporall commodities and the body in matters of life euerlasting must be content to follow the soule and direction of spirit and so is bound to doe though with repugnance oftentimes of the flesh as in fasting praying pennance other such like exercise And wheresoeuer these two mutuall subordinations be wel obserued there the Common wealth goeth forward wel and prosperouslie and contrarywise where the said subordination is neglected or perturbed there all goeth out of order and ioynt 36. But now there remaineth a third point of further moderation between these two Powers which is accordinge to our deuines and Canon-lawyers That albeit Ecclesiastical men be subiect to the obseruation of temporall laws as before is said yet are as well their persons as their goods free and exempted from the temporall magistrate and his tribunalls euen in those causes also in so much that if Cleargie men doe offend against the laws of the Common-wealth they are to be iudged and condemned by Ecclesiasticall iudges in the Courts and tribunals of their prelats and afterward to be deliuered to secular power to inflict the decreed punishmēt vpon them which they shall be found worthie of Their goods also both Ecclesiasticall and temporall are exempted from all secular power and their impositions or exactions by auncient Decrees and Constitutions as well of the Church as of old Christian Emperours in honorem Cleri in honour of the Cleargy to vse the auncient word
ielousy other like motiues to doe or attempt that especially in these later ages which reason and Religion did not allwayes approue nor themselues nether vpon more mature deliberation And yet doe I not graunt that M. Attorney bringeth any thing of moment in this kind of proofe de facto also as after shall appeare though all his pretences of proofes be in this kind only 3. For as for the first though he entitle his booke De Iure as you haue heard yet little or nothing doth he alleadge therin worthie to be repeated Only he hath one Argument mencioned and refuted by vs before in the second Chapter of this Answere which is that the Kingdome of England being an absolute Empire and Monarchie consisting of one head which is the King and of a body politicke deuided into two generall partes the Clergie and the Layty both of them next vnder God must be subiect obedieÌ„t to the same head in all causes for that otherwise he should be no perfect Monarch or head of the whole bodye c. 4. But to this the answere is playne by the groundes we haue laid downe in the same Chapter of the different origen of spirituall and temporal power and that it is sufficient to any temporall Monarch and to the perfection of his Monarchie that all sortes of people throughout his dominions as well Clergie as Layty be subiect vnto him in all temporall affayres and that with this perfection of Monarchie were content both Constantyne the first christian Emperour also Valentinian Gratian Theodosius Arcadius Honorius Iustinian and other Emperours that eusued after him as also Charles the Great in France with his Successours all our English Kings before K. Henry the eight who esteemed themselues for greate perfect Monarches ouer their people as in deed they were without this chalenge of Spirituall Iurisdiction in Ecclesiasticall matters And therfore the said greatest Emperours were content also to beare patiently and christianly the denyall therof in diuers occasions by their good Bishops Prelates S. Basil S. Gregory Nazienzen S. Ambrose S. Chrysostome yea and checkes also for vsurping somtymes either by themselues or their officers vpon Ecclesiasticall power that belonged not to them wherof many examples might be alleadged and some haue bene touched before in the place mencioned For to this end was that admonishment of S. Gregory Nazienzen to the Emperour Valentinian that he should vnderstand that he being a Bishop had greater Authority than the said Emperour To the same effect likwise was the resolute speech of S. Ambrose vnto the same Valentinian Nolite grauare Imperator c. Trouble not your self Emperour in coÌ„maÌ„ding me to deliuer the Church nor doe you perswade your self that you haue any Imperiall right ouer those things that are spirituall or diuine exalt not your self but be subiect to God if you will raigne be content with those things that belong to Cesar and leaue those which are of God vnto God Pallaces appertaine to the Emperour and Churches vnto the Priest You haue right ouer the walles of the Cyttie but not vpon sacred howses So he And the same S. Ambrose some 3. or .4 yeares after vsed the like speech of superiority in spirituall matters to the good Emperour Theodosius checking him greiuously yea keeping him out of the Church and holding him vnder excommunication for eight monethes togeather And when the said good Emperour came humbly on foote unto him saying Ora vt mihi soluas vincula ne mihi occludas ianuam I beseech you loose my bandes and shutt not the Church doore against me The other answered what pennance can you shew me that you haue done since the committing of your greiuous sinne c. 5. And the like libertie of speech might I alleadge out of S. Chrisostome where speaking of the presumption of King Ozias that would meddle in Spirituall matters vsed this Apostrophe vnto him Mane intra terminos tuos aly sunt termini Regni alij termini Sacerdoty hoc Regnum illo maius Stay king within thy bounds and limitts for different are the boundes of a Kingdome and the limitts of Priest-hood and this Kingdome of Priest-hood is greater then the other wherof he yeldeth this reason a little after Regi corpora commissa sunt sacerdoti animae The bodyes be committed to the Kinge the soules to the Priest And in the next homily following he inferreth this conclusion Ideoque Deus c. Therfore hath God subiected the head of the King to the handes of the Priest instructing vs therby that the Priest is a greater Prince then the king for that according to S. Paul the lesser allwayes receaueth blessing from the greater and more eminent Other Fathers sayings to the same effect I purposely omitt for breuityes sake but by these few M. Attorney may see how he is deceiued in placing the perfection of a temporall Monarchie in hauing spirituall Iurisdiction ouer Priestes in Ecclesiasticall affayres 6. We read that when Constantius the Emperour some to Constantyne the Great tooke vpon him to fauour the Arrian heresye he called vnto him diuers Catholike Bishopps as S. Athanasius doth relate and setteth downe their names willing them to subscribe to that which he had appoynted for the bannishment of the said S. Athanasius and communion with the Arrians Quibus admirantibâ—â— c. Who marueling saith he at this commandement as a new thing and telling him that this was not according to the Ecclesiasticall Canons the Emperour replyed I will haue that held for Canon which I doe appoint either obey or goe into banishment wherat they more wondering and holding vp their hands to heauen did with libertie propose their reasons vnto him telling him that his Kingdome was not his but from God who had giuen it vnto him and that it was to be feared least he would take it againe from him and finally denounced vnto him the last daie of iudgement persuading him that he should not peruert the course of Ecclesiasticall affayres nor intermeddle his Roman Empire in dealing with Ecclesiasticall Constitutions c. So Athanasius of these good Bishops 7. And vnto the same Emperour a little after that great and famous Confessor Osius who among the rest had sitten as Iudge in the Nicene Councell vpon like occasion wrote this graue and important admonition Define quaeso memineriste mortalem esse resormida diem iudicij c. Leaue of I beseech thee ô Emperour and remember that thou art mortall feare the day of iudgement and keep they self pure from this kind of synne and doe not intermeddle with Ecclesiasticall causes Do not vse commandements to vs in this kinde but rather learne of vs God hath committed the Empire vnto thee but vnto vs the things that appertaine to his Church and as those that malignantly doe carpe at thy Empire doe contradict the ordinance of God so beware thou least by
especially in this place where our question is only of spirituall Iurisdiction in Ecclesiasticall causes which that it could not be in a woman in regarde of her sex all Catholique deuines doe proue by these reasons following 21. First by the disposition of the Canon-law which contayning the sense of Gods vniuersall Church from time to time both in the right and practise of this affayre of spirituall gouerment ought to be and is with wise learned Godly men of principall accompt credit and authority For that the said Canon-law is deduced from the decrees of Councells Synodes Popes auncient Fathers Doctors and Bishops and from the custome and practise of the said Church from time to time directed by Gods holy spirit according to his promise and receiued throughout all christendome from age to age though now contemned by certayne new maisters whose maistery standeth in this to scoffe at that which they vnderstand not or list not to follow be it neuer so good 22. This law then and iudgment of the Church is so far of euer hath been from graunting spirituall Iurisdiction to be in any Queene as in Capite by right of any temporall Crowne to be deriued from her to others as it doth not allow any woman to be capable of any spiritual power or Iurisdiction though it be but delegated giuen by commission substitution from another as appeareth by the textes of Canon-law cited heere in the margent And the princypall reason herof is that all spirituall power being of two sorts Ordinis Iurisdictionis of holy order Iurisdiction the femynine sex is capable of neither of them Not of the power of Order saith S. Thomas which belongeth to the administring of Sacraments for that a woman by her sex cannot administer them nor is capable of Preist-hood or sacred orders required therunto And in this both Caluin and Cluinists agree with vs though Luther at the beginning held that all Christians baptized might be preists and administer Sacraments aswell women as men yea children and diuells also if they vsed the wordes institution of Christ as in the places of this worke◠here quoted may be seene 23. The second part of Spirituall power appertayning to Iurisdiction either internall or external in fore conscientia or in sore contentioso that is to absolue or loose in the secret Trybunall of conscience or in the open Court of externall contention cannot fall vpon a woman for the infirmity and indecency of her sex saith the Canon-law and for many other absurdities that would ensue therof if a woman should be admitted to the actes of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction which are principally two Docere Iudicare saith the said law to teach and iudge wherof neither of them standeth well in a woman to exercise ouer men the same lawe noting that albeit Christ our Sauiour loued well Mary Magdalen and other holy women that followed him and serued him vnto his death yet is it neuer read that he committed any part of Iurisdiction in gouerning his Church vnto them no not vnto the blessed Virgin his mother though she were replenished with grace full of the holy Ghost And this of the Canō-law 24. For the Ciuill albeit little occasiō was giuen therin amongst the ancient heathen Romanes the chief Authors therof to talke of of this controuersy of Spirituall Iurisdiction their whole subiect being of temporall Ciuill affayres yet in a certayne Treatise De Regulis Iuris of the rules of that law they haue this direction Faeminas remotas esse ab officijs publicis ideo iudices esse non posse That women are to be remoued by the Ciuill law from all publique offices therfore cannot be Iudges And if in Ciuill matters by that law they could not be Iudges how much lesse can they be supreame Iudges in spirituall causes which are of a far higher dignitie and indecency for women to meddle therin All which better appeare by that which is to eusue out of the law both of Nature and Grace which are the groundes of these Ciuill and Canonicall Constitutions For as the Ciuill law followed the one so the Canon followeth the other or rather both for that both proceed from God and are his lawes 25. To consider then of the law of Nature which is common to all Nations we read in the booke Genesis that the order obserued by God in the creation of man and woman was this that first Adam and all other Creatures were made and placed in paradise and afterward Eua was created for man and out of man and to the liknes of man as man was created before to the likenes of God Out of which order of Creation S. Paul doth in diuers places gather the naturall subiection of woman vnto man especially in spirituall matters appertayning to God to be eternally established by this law of their creation 26. For when to Tymothie he had said Docere autem mulieres non permitto neque deminari in virum I doe not permitt women to teach nor to haue dominion ouer her husband he addeth presently for his reason these words For Adam was first created and then Eua And Adam was not seduced but the woman was seduced And the same Apostle writing to the Corinthians about a certayne precept and ordination of his that woman should be couered in the Church men not and men to haue their hayre cutt women not in signe of subiection and subordination the one to the other he saith I doe prayse you brethren for that you are mindfull of me in all things and doe obserue my precepts as I deliuered them vnto you I will haue you knowe that Christ is the head of euery man and man the head of the woman and God the head of Christ. And as euery man that prayeth or prophesieth with his head couered dishonoreth his head which is Christ so euery woman praying or prophesying with her head not couered dishonoureth her head which is man And the man ought not to couer his head for that he is the Image and glory of God but the woman is the glory of the man for man was not made of the woman but the woman out of man not was the man created for woman but the woman for man c. Ipsa natura docet vos Nature it self doth teach you c. 27. Now then out of these deductions from the law of Nature so much vrged as you see by S. Paul for subiection and subordination of women euen in little small points concerning Religion as about speaking teaching and veiling their heads in the Church it may be inferred how earnest the same Apostle would haue bene if the question had been propoūded about the highest poynt honour office of Religion which is to exercise the place of Christ by mediation betweene God and man and to be as it were high-priest and President ouer men
proued For that he that giueth a power to an other is presupposed to haue it first in himself for that no man can giue that which himself hath not so as if Q. Elizabeth did giue any spirituall Iurisdiction to her Bishops to teach preach make Ministers absolute loose sinnes and the like who otherwise could haue no such authoritie at all she might no doubt haue exercised the same in her owne person as in all temporall Iurisdiction we see that whatsoeuer power the King giueth to any Gouernour Iudge or Magistrate to exercise in his name he may exercise the same also him self if he wil. And the same holdeth in the Pope for any spirituall Iurisdiction or function that he committeth to any Bishop Priest or Clerk whatsoeuer 42. A third reason is taken ab inconueniente to wit from this inconuenience that if a Queene could be spirituall head of the Church and should marry without making hir husband King she should be his spirituall head also to loose and bind his sinnes and to exercise Ecclesiasticall Censures of Iurisdiction Suspension or Excommunication against him at her pleasure and he for his part should be bound in conscience vnder payne of sinne to heare and follow her doctrine if at any time she list to preach vnto him or to prescribe what he must beleeue or not beleeue in matters of faith which besides that it should be contrary to that we haue alleadged before out of S. Paul and Christ his Institution for the subiection of women in these causes it would be very absurd and ridiculous also as you see and vnworthie of the excellent gouerment of Christ his Church instituted and framed by the highest wisdome of almighty God 43. Wherfore lastly to shutt vp this matter after all these proofes alleadged we shall adioyne one only more which howsoeuer it be esteemed of vs yet ought it to be of singular great moment with M. Attorney and this is the vniuersall agreement of all Protestants both of Caluin Luthers sect commonly throughout the world except only in England And as for Caluinists the matter is cleere if we respect France Germany Holland Zeland Scotland and other places who all agree in this point following therin their first Author Iohn Caluin who not only in the place by me alleadged vpoÌ„ Amos the prophet but in diuers other places also of his workes doth earnestly impugne not only this Ecclesiasticall power of a woman but of any temporall Magistrate whatsoeuer affirming further in a certayne epistle of his to his freind Myconius that those who defend the same are prophane spirits and mad-men and that the Lord with the breath of his mouth shall destroy them and that both he and his would encounter and fight against them with a valiant and inuincible Zeale c. Of the same opinion and spirit was Theodore Beza the cheife scholer and successour of Caluin in his chayre of Geneua as appeareth by his writings and another chiefe scoller and companion of them both named Viretus in his dialogue intituled Of white Diuells calling them false Christians and dissembled diuells that defend this false position of Princes Ecclesiasticall Supremacy though they couer them selues saith he with the cloake of the Ghospell and then setteth he downe foure or fiue arguments to proue the position to be false which I pretermitt to recite in this place for breuities sake remitting the Reader to the booke it self for that it is exstant in English And I doe passe ouer the writings of many other principall men of that profession both in England and abroad who in this point are no lesse opposite and earnest against M. Attorney that we and are knowne in England by the name of Puritanes or precise Caluinists who being the farre greater parte if we respect all Countreyes about vs must needs in this point be confessed to haue more reason the thing being affirmed so earnestly as you haue heard by Caluin himself than the other of that sect who for pleasing of teÌ„porall princes are accused by them to hold the contrary For that if Iohn Caluin be to be followed in all the rest as they confesse why not also in this And if the holy-ghost fayled him in this so important a point as comprehendeth the whole gouerment of their Church and the lawfull or vnlawfull vocation and function of their whole Ministerie what certaintie can they haue in any other thinge or point of his doctrine 44. But now not only those of the Caluinian sect but others also of the Lutheranes doe laugh at our English Protestants for holding this position of M. Attorney about Queene Elizabeths Spirituall and Ecclesiasticall Supremacie wherin not to weary the Reader which enumeration of many witnesses I shall alleadg only one for all but yet such a one as may well stand for all For that he is the most eminent and principall man of them all to vvitt Martâ—nus Keronitius an ancient publike Reader of diuinity among the Lutherane Sect in Saxony that hath written many volumes for defence of the said sect in our dayes 45. This man then being consulted and demaunded his opinion by the Prince Elector of Brandeburg what was to be done in certaine points concerning those of the Caluinian sect he answereth him in a large epistle extant in print allowing first and greatly praysing the Princes iudgment Quod consultum non esse iudicat vt cum Caluinistis Generalis Synodus habeatur That his Highnes thought it not expedient to hold any generall Synode with the Caluinists as they desired for composing of Controuersyes betweene Lutherans and them 46. Secondly he addeth his owne iudgment vnto that of the Prince Elector about punishing the said Caluinists within his State affirming Non expedire vt punitionis officium contrae Caluinistas intereà temporis penitus quiescat It was not expedient that the office of punishing Caluinists should cease in the meane space vntill the said generall Synode were held as they demaunded 47. Thirdly and lastly hauing resolued these two points he passeth ouer to giue his iudgment in like manner to the said Elector about the Religion held in England and of Q. Elizabeth her self and her title of supremacy saying first that no good thing in Religion was further to be expected from her that she had vsed hardly the Protestants of Germany that she saw and felt noâ— a third sect risen vp in her Realme of Puritanes that hated both her and the other Caluinians that followed her who were enimies in like manner to Lutherans So he And then passing yet further he scoffeth merily that she being a woman had taken vpon her to make Ecclesiasticall lawes Et quòd faemineo à saeculis inaudito fastu se Papissam caput Ecclesia fecit That with a womanly pride neuer heard of in former ages she had made herself a She-pope head of the Church Thus Kemnitius And marke that he saith à saeculu inaudito
it must needs bee that he was gouernour vnder the Pope to whome he professeth as you haue heard obedience and subiection 16. But what proofe think you hath M. Attorney out of this King to shew that he exercised spirituall iurisdiction by vertue of his temporall crowne You shall heare it all as it lyeth in his booke for the whole narration is but of 3. or 4. lines taken out of K. Edward his lawes The words are these in Latin Rex autem qui vicarius summi regis est ad hoc constitutus est vt regnum populum Domini super omnia Sanctam Ecclesiam regat defendat ab iniuriosis malefices autem destruat Which M. Attorney Englisheth thus The King who is the vicar of the highest King is ordeined to this end that he should rule and gouerne the Kingdome people of the land and aboue all things the holy Church that he defend the same from wrong-doers and destroy and roote out workers of mischeif Which words supposing them to be truly alleadged as they lye haue a plaine and easy interpretation which is that the King as Gods minister for so S. Paul called also the hea-Magistrate must gouerne the Church and Cleargie of his land in temporal matters for that they are members also of the Common-wealth as before we shewed In which respect they are subiect to the sayd temporall Magistrate and in that sense to be gouerned by him though not in spirituall things 17. And if M. Attorney will inferre that because the King is cal-called Gods Vicar he hath spirituall Iurisdiction then may he as well inferre that the heathen Magistrate had spirituall Iurisdiction ouer Christians for that S. Paul calleth him the minister of God which is as much in effect as Vicar for that the minister supplieth the maisters place And thus you see that albeit we admit these words as heere they ly alleadged by M. Attorney noe aduantage can be rightly inferred against vs by them But I am forced to suspect some little fraud or shuffling to be vsed in the citation of this peece of law and therfore I intreate the Iudicious Reader who is learned and hath the commodity to see the Originals that he will examine both this and the former instance of K. Kenulfus in the authors whence they are taken for I haue them not by mee 18. The reasons of suspicion are first for that I see M. Attorney his translation in these few lines not to be very exact as it will appeare to him that examineth the same and secondly for that I find this clause of S. Edwards law differently alleaged heare by M. Attorney from that which is cited by Roger Houeden in the life of K. Henry the second as also from another allegation therof by Iohn Fox in his Acts and Monuments by all which may be gathered that the verbe regat is wrongly placed in M. Attorneys allegation which being amended and the said verbe placed before in his dew place the sense is perfect to witt vt Rex regnum terrenum populum Domini regat sanctam eius veneretur ecclesiam ab iniuriosis defendat c. that the King rule his earthly Kingdome and the people of God and reuerence and defend the holy Church Thus I say ought the words to stand to make good and congruons sense and not as they are transposed both by M. Attorney and Iohn Fox to make a blind sense who yet agree not in their allegations therof as in the places cited you may see 19. And this our assertion concerning the true sense meaning of the former clause is confirmed yet further by the words of K. Edward immediatly following in the same law omitted heere by M. Attorney but sett downe by Fox which are these Quod nisi secerit nomen regis in eo non constabit verum Papa Ioanne testante nomen Regis perdet If a King doe not perfourme the points before mentioned of gouerninge his people and defending the Church the name of a King agreeth not to him but he must leese that name as testifieth Pope Iohn So he And the same K. Edward in the end of this speach doth cite the authority of the said Pope Iohn againe saying that the wrote to Pipinus and his sonne Charles beâ—ore they came to be Kings of France that no man was worthy to be called a King except he did vigilantly defend and gouerne the Church and people of God So as now this gouernment of the Church which M. Attorney hitherto hath vrged so much against the Popes authority must be vnderstood according to the meaning and sense only of Pope Iohn who I suppose notwithstanding will not meane that temporall Princes shall be heads of the Church and to haue supreme spirituall Iurisdiction in causes Ecclesiasticall deriued from their Crownes as M. Attorneys meaning is And so you see vnto what good issue he hath brought this argument out of S. Edwards lawes which is that Kings haue so much gouernmeÌ„t ouer the Church as Pope Iohn allowed them and no more 20. And finally let vs heare the words of Pope Nicolas the second to this verie K. Edward concernining the gouernment he had ouer the Church for thus he writeth to him Vobis verò posteris vestris Regibus committimus aduocationem eiusdem loci omnium totius Angliae Ecclesiarum vt vite nostrae cum Consilio Episcoporum Abbalum constituatis vbique quae iusta sunt c. We doe coÌ„mitte vnto you and to the Kings of England your Successours the aduocation and protection of the same place or monastery of VVestminster and of all the Churches throughout England to the end that in our name and authoritie you may by the counsell of your Bishops and Abbots appoint euery-where those thinges that are iust c. By which words is easie to see what gouernment and iurisdiction K. Edward had ouer the Church of England to witt by commission of the Pope noe otherwise By which coÌ„mission also diuers other Catholike Princes haue had in sundrie cases coÌ„mitted vnto them haue at this day spirituall Iurisdiction as namely the Kings of Sicily doe pretend to haue had to haue supreme spirituall authority in that Kingdome as legati à latere by concession of Pope Vrbanus the 2. graunted vnto Roger the Norman Earle of Sicily aboue fiue hundered years past to witt from the yeare of Christ 1097. And yet will none of those that defend this spirituall monarchy at this day for by that name it is called say that it descendeth by right of their Crownes but by concession and delegation of Popes And so much of this matter HOW THE ATTORNEY NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVE HIS AFFIRMATIVE PROPOSITION Of English Kings Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall before the Conquest VVe doe ex abundanti proue the negatiue by ten seuerall sortes of most euident demonstrations that there was no such thing in that
tyme of the Danes themselues as presently shal be shewed 68. And for breuities sake it will be least perhaps to alleadge here the wordes of one that was skillfull in the matter for that he had byn Collector or gatherer of this tribute for diuerse yeres togeather in England vnder the sayd King Henry to whome also he dedicated his historie to wit Polidor Virgil an Italian Archdeacon of VVells who out of al historiographers had gathered the grounds and antiquities of this tribute and in the life of King Inas of the VVest saxons hauing shewed and declared first togeather with all other auncient writers how wise valiant and pious a King he was and what singular monuments therof he had left behinde him as among other the buylding of the Church of VVells the Abbey of Glastenbury the like he finally concludeth thus Officia eius Regis pietatis plena infinit a referuntur illud imprimis quod Regnum suum Romano Pontifici vectigale fecerit singulis argenteâ— nummis quos denarios vocant in singulas domus impositis c. There are infinite good workes of this King related by Historiographers full of piety and this among the first that he made his Kingdome tributary to the Bishop of Rome imposing vpon euery house a penny And all England at this present time doth pay this tribute for piety religious sake to the Bishop of Rome gathered from euery house of the whole Kingdome and vulgarly they are called the pence of S. Peter which the Pope gathereth vp by his officer called Collectour which office we for some yeres did exercise in that Kingdome and for that cause went first of all thither Thus Polidor 69. Iohn Stow doth set downe many particularityes of the rich gifts of gold and siluer vestments Church-ornaments which this King Inas gaue and bestovved vpon the Church of VVells buylded by him He testifieth also of his gyft of Peter-pence imposed vpon his Kingdome as giuen about the yeare of Christ 705. And Polidor hath further these wordes of him King Inas being exceeding desirous to amend and establish the state of his Kingdome and to instruct his subiects how to liue well and happily did make most holy lawes and left them to be obserued But the wickednes of his posterity hath by little and little worne out the same And lastly after all this glory wherin he had raigned thirty seuen yeres he leauing voluntarily his Kingdome wâ—â—â— to Rome for deuotion and pietyes sake and there saith Stow liued and ended his life in poore estate And heare now I would 〈◊〉 whether any of these lawes made by King Inas were likely to be against the Popes spirituall iurisdiction or in fauour therof And if the later may with more reason be presumed then haue we more auncient coÌ„mon-lawes that is to say temporall lawes against M. Attorney then he can alleadge any for himself to the contrary 70. But to goe forward in shewing the continuance confirmation and encrease of this temporall tribute to the Pope of Rome the said Polidor writing of King Offa the most famous and valiant King of the Mercians and shewing how wicked cruell he had byn first and how godly he became afterward hath these words He built the magnificent Cathedrall Church of Hereford and adorned the same with most ample gifts he caused to be sought out the body of S. Alban and placed the same in a monastery of S. Benedicts order built by himself and further he builded the monastery of Bath And yet more for further satisfaction of his former synnes he passed the Ocean sea went to Rome and there made tributary his Kingdome of Mercians to Adrian the Pope by imposing that tribute vpon euery house of his people which was called Peter-pence and this as some thinke by the imitation of King Inas which had done the same some yeres before in the Kingdome of the VVestsaxons And this saith Polidor was done by Offa vpon the yere 775. which was according to this accompt seuenty yeres after the other And this King Offa was he who made the famous Dich betwene his Kingdome VVales called Offa-hiâ—-dich raigned thirty and nyne yeres in al prosperity and had present with him that subscribed to his Charter for the founding of the monastery of S. Albanes besides his sonne and Prince Egfryde nyne Kings fifteene Bishops and ten Dukes as Stow relateth out of the Charter it self dated the thirty and three yere of his raigne and of Christ our sauiour 793. 71. And about some fourscore yeres more or lesse after this againe King Adelnulph otherwise called Edelnulph or Edelph sonne and heire to King Egbert the first great Monarch that gaue the name of Anglia or England to our Countrey hauing adioyned vnto his Kingdome of the VVest saxons fiue more to wit that of the Mercians Kentish saxons East-saxons South-saxons and VVelsh-men This Adelnulph I say comming to raigne after his Father was a rare man of vertue and left exceeding many monuments of piety behind him gaue the tenth parte of his Kingdome to the mayntenaunce of Clergie men sent his yongest sonne Alfred to Rome to liue there and to be brought vp vnder Pope Leo the 4. and afterward resolued also to goe himself in person He went saith Polidor to Rome vpon a vow and was most benignly receaued by Pope Leo the fourth and there he made tributary vnto the Pope of Rome such partes of the Iland as King Egbert his father had adioyned vnto the Kingdome of the VVest-saxons imitating herin his predecessour King Inas and moreouer made a speciall law therof that whosoeuer had thirty-pence rent in possessions by the yeare or more houses then one should pay yearely a penny for euery house which they did inhabite that this should be paid at the feast of S. Peter and S. Paul which commeth vpon the 29. of Iune or at the furthest at the feast of the Chaines of S. Peter which is the first of August So Polidor adding that some doe attribute this law vnto King Alfred his sonne when he came to raigne but not truly for that it was made by Adelnulph vpon the yeare of Christ 947. 72. Here now then we haue this tribute graunted and confirmed by three seuerâ—â—l Kings the first of the VVest-saxons yet in effect Monarch of England And some haue noted that as the VVest-saxons Mercians were the first that made this offer of tribute vpon deuotion to S. Peter and his Successours so were they the Kingdomes that were most aduanced in their temporall felicity and successes and finally were vnited togeather vnder one Monarch And that of the VVest-saxons being the first and last that gaue and confirmed and continued the same grew to be the Monarch ouer all the rest For as for the continuance perpetuall payment therof to the Church of Rome throughout all tymes there can be no doubt made for that in the yery
to returne to the obedience and freindship of her King and husband and in the end threatneth to vse the Censures of the Church against her if she obaied not Parochiana eniuâ— nostra es saith he sicut â—◠〈◊〉 non pâ—ssumus deesse iustitia c. For you are our Parishioner aâ— also your husband I cannot but doe iustice either you must returne to your husband againe or by the Canon-law I shall be forced to constraine you by Ecclesiasticall censures I write this vnwillingly and if you repent not I must doe it though with sorrow and teares 6. The like letter at the same time wrote Richard Archbishop of Canterbury to K. Henry the sonne persuading him by diuers earnest arguments to returne into grace with his Father and in the end threatned him that if within fifteen dayes he perfourmed it not he had expresse commaundement from the Pope to excommunicate him But how this matter was afterward ended or compounded rather for that present you shall heare a little beneath though againe vpon other occasions matters brake forth brought the afflicted King at last to the most miserable state of desolation in minde that euer perhaps was read of in historyes For that as Stow out of auncient writers reporteth he died cursing the day that euer he was borne and giuing Gods curse and his to his sonnes which were only two liuing at that time and that he would neuer release or goe backe in this albeit he was intreated by diuers both Bishops and other religious persons euen vntill the very houre of his death Wher vnto Nubergensis addeth this saying for some reason therof Nondum vti credo satu defleuerat c. He had not as I beleeue mourned or bewailed sufficiently the rigour of that most vnfortunate obstination of mind which he had vsed against the venerable Archbishop Thomas in giuing the occasion of his murder and therefore doe I thinke this great Prince to haue had so miserable an end in this world that our Lord not sparing him heere might by his temporall punishment prepare him euerlasting mercy in the life to come So Nubergensis And this for his manners and conuersation wherin otherwise the said Author doth much commend him for a good Iusticer and leuing Father to his people a great Almes-man and founder of pious works and for a principall defender and preseruer of Ecclesiasticall libertyes c. 7. But now if we consider the point of our controuersie about his religion and particular iudgement in the matter of Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction no King euer of our nation did make the matter more cleere for his obedience to the Sea of Rome in all occasions wherof he had many in his dayes some of them neerly concerning himselfe as that of Thomas Becket Archbishop of Canterbury who for opposing himself against certaine new Statutes and Ordinances of the said King which in the heat of 〈◊〉 greatnes and temporall fortune he would haue made against the liberty of the Church pretending them to haue byn of his Grand-father K. Henry the first and if they had byn the antiquity was not great as you see the said Archbishop incurred highly his heauy indignation which cost him afterward his life as is notorious And these lawes were six in number as the histories of that time doe sett them downe The first that no appellation might be made to Rome without he Kings consent The second that no Bishop might goe out of the Realme without the Kings licâ—nce though he were called by the Pope himself The third that no Bishop may excommunicate any man that held of the King in capite but by the Kings approbation The fourth that it shall not appertaine to the Bishop to punish men for periury â—â— violating their faith but that it shall belonge to the Kings Courts The fifth that Clarks may be drawne to secular tribunals in certaine causes The sixt that the King and his lay-Iudges may determine controuersies about titbes or Churches 8. These were the lawes for which K. Henry the second made so much adoe to haue them passe as he enpawned his whole power therin moued for so much as in him lay both heauen and earth to effectuate them euen by the Pope himself but could not And yet you see that heere is not pretended any absolute spirituall iurisdiction but only delegatory in certaine little peeces and parcels therof or rather some little restraint of that supreme authority which he acknowledged to be in the Sea of Rome But yet for the good and peace of his land he pretended to haue them graunted confirmed allowed vnto him as he said they had byn to his Grand-father but could not shew it For as you haue heard in the life of K. Henry the first the holy and learned prelate S. Anselme stood against him in such sorte so as he preuailed not 9. It is heer also specially to be noted against M. Attorney that this King pretended not as hath byn said to haue this iurisdiction against Clergie men by right of his Crowne but by concession rather of his Bishops and confirmation of the Pope himself For so expresly affirmeth Houeden that liued at that tyme that he required the seales of the said Bishops and confirmation of Pope Alexander the third whervnto when Thomas Becket Archbishop of Canterbury that was Legatus-natus would not yeeld the King sent messengers to Rome presently saith Houeden to wit Iohn â—â—â—â—ford Geffrey Ridell to desire of Pope Alexander that he would make his extraordinary Legat in England Roger Archbishop of Yorke an old emulator and enemy of S. Thomas But the Pope perceiuing his drifte which was to oppresse the said Archbishop of Canterbury denyed the Kings petition in this behalfe though at the request of the Kings said messengers Consessit Dominus Papa vt Rexipse Legatus esset totius Angliae it a tamen quod ipse nullum grauamen facere posset Cantuariensi Archiepiscopo The Pope graunted that K. Henry himself should be his Legat ouer all England but yet so as he should not be able to lay any aggreiuaunce vpon the Archbishop of Canterbury that is to say should not preiudicate his ordinary iurisdiction or haue any authority ouer him Which point the King perceiuing and that his whole intent of oppressing the said Archbishop was heerby preuented he would not through indignation saith our Author accept of the said legation but sent back the Popes letters of that commission to him againe Wherby you see that he refused the said office for that he thought the iurisdiction giuen him was lesse then he would haue had and not for that he did not acknowledge the whole to be in the Pope and nothing in himself as from the right of his Crowne 10. But to abbridge this matter concerning his contention with S. Thomas wherof afterward he sore repented himself as you will heare though he entred into the same with great
heat and resolution to goe through therin by his power and authority with the Pope yet when he saw the said Pope to mislike his proceedings and to stand constant against him he amayned and and humbled himself presently and this in respect of his conscience and feare of God as himself caused to be written by his Bishops to the said Pope Alexander For there is extant in Houeden a large epistle of all the Bishops Suffragans of Canterbury that were subiects to Thomas the Archbishop written vnto Pope Alexander in the Kings name of his prompt obedience towards him and the Sea of Rome in all things saying Ad vestra quidem mandata non itatus intumuit non elatus obedire contempsit verum gratias agens paterna correctioni Ecclesia se statim submisit examini when the King receiued your commaundements he did not swell with anger nor proudly contemned to obey but giuing thankes for your Fatherly correction did presently submit himself to the examination of the Church And againe Ipse diuini reuerentia timoris 〈◊〉 Maiestatempreferens sed vt filius obediens se iudicio sistere legitimaeque parere sententiae seque legibus alligatum Prinscipem praesto est in omnibus exhibere He for reuerence and respect of the fear of God did not prefer the maiesty of his Kingly State but as an obedient sonne is ready in all things to stand to iudgement and to obey lawfull sentence acknowledging himself though he be a Prince to be bound to the lawes of the Church 11. This then was his disposition of mind in this behalfe which he presently shewed in fact by sending a most honorable Embassage to the Pope to wit the Archbishop of Yorke Bishops of VVinchester London Chichester and Excester with the Earles Arundell the Gundauell de Sancto Valerico and many others both gentlemen and Clarks And as Houeden affirmeth Appellauit pro se regno suo ad Praesentiam Summi Pontificis He appealed for himself and for his kingdome to the Preâ—ence of the Pope desiring that two Legats might be sent into England to iudge of the cause between him the Archbishop And soone after when the Archbishop vpon pacification made was returned and within a few moneths after wikedly slaine in his owne Church of Canterbury the same Pope Alexander taking vpon him as lawfull Iudge to examine punish the fact vpon the person of K. Henry himself sent two Cardinall-Legats for that purpose into Normandy named Graetianus Viuianus as Houeden at large setteth downe the history Wherof K. Henry being aduertised that was present then in those partes beyond the Seas and fearing the euent Ad Praesentiam Summi Pontifiâ—â— appellauit appealed againe as once he had done before to the presence of the Pope himself from his said Legats Wherby we see that he graunted acknowledged the Popes authority ouer him in that matter And the same writer addeth in the same place that the said King fearing also notwithstanding his appeale the seuerity of the Sea Apostolicke in this case passed ouer presently into England giuing straite order and commaundment that no man should be permitted to enter with any Bull or Breâ—â— of the Pope of what sorte soeuer except first he gaue caution security that he would thereby bring no hurte or greiuaunce to the King or Kingdome 12. But after this againe to omit many other things and iuâ—dâ—dicall Acts which passed in this affaire set downe by the said Houeden and other authors of that time two other Cardinall-â—â—gats Theodinus and Albertus were finally directed from the said Pope Alexander into Normandy to giue the last sentence vpon the matter Vnto whome K. Henry being then in Ireland and cited to appeere came purposely to present himself in person which notably signifieth his obedience And there by his oath he purged himself swearing first that his intention was neuer to procure the said Archbishops death and secondly promising diuers things by the same oath to be performed in satisfaction of his fault in hauing giuen some occasion therof by angry words against the same Archbishop Thomas All which is set downe in the said Author vnder this title recorded likewise by Peter Blesensis Purgatio Henrici Regis pro morte Beati Thomae The purgation or satisfaction of K. Henry for the death of S. Thomas therevpon ensueth Charta absolutionis Domini Regis The charter of absolution of our Lord the King by the said Legats in the Popes name 13. And amongst other six or seauen points whervnto the King sware at this time one is set downe in these words He sware also that he would neither let nor permit to be letted any Appellations to be made in his Kingdome to the Bishop of Rome in Ecclesiasticall causes with this condition that if any that doe appeale be suspected to the King they should giue security that they would not seeke or procure any hurte to him or his Kingdome And so was that controuersie ended and the lawes abolished which the King would haue established against the liberty of the Church Wherby we se cleerly what persuasion K. Henry had of the Popes supreame authority in Ecclesiasticall affaires and his loyall obedience thervnto which is so much the more to be esteemed if we consider the circumstances of the tyme wherin he exhibited the same which was such as he might easily haue declined himself if he would from the force of Pope Alexander his authority that pressed him so much by adhering to some one of his enemyes the Antipopes that by faction of a few were chosen set vp against him three or foure one after another naming themselues Victor the 4. Calixtus the 3. and Pascalis the 3. and held out against him for more then 17. years togeather by the power and peruersity of Fredericus Barba-rossa the first Emperour of that name who often also allured K. Henry to be partaker of his Schisme but he refused followinge heerin his Catholicke auncestors VVilliam the Conquerour that stood constantly with the true Popes of his tyme Alexander the 2. and Gregory the 7. against those that by sedition of Henry the 4. Emperour were set vp against them to wit Cadolus calling himself Honorius the 2. and Gilbertus that was named Clement the 2. K. Henry also the first obaied the true Popes of his tyme Paschalis the 2. Gâ—lasius the 2. Calixtus the 2. Honorius the 2. Innocentius the 2. against six schismaticall intruders calling themselues Clement the 3. Syluester the 3. Gregory the 8. Celestinus the 2. Anacletus the 2. Victor the 4. all set vp maintained by the German Emperours Henry the 4. and fifth and by Lotharius the 2. after them But our Kings of England obayed allwayes their true and lawfull Pastors of Gods Church and were highly commended for it And now K. Henry the 2. followed their vertues wisedome religion and magnanimity in that behalfe and found no doubt his
iudge of such possessions as depend of legitimation we commaund your brotherhoods that leauing the iudgment of the said possessions to the King and his Courts you examine onlie the principall cause concerning the loialtie of the marriage it self and determine the same 43. Heerby then wee see first that M. Attorney alleadging this instance hath alleadged nothing at all against vs or for himself For that when the Earls and Barons refused to change the laws of England concerning inheritance vpon legitimation they said no more then is allowed them by the Canon-law it self as you haue heard And how will M. Attorney inferre of this that K. Henry the third held himself to haue supreme authority ecclesiasticall for that this must be his conclusion out of his instance or els he saith nothing 44. And it shall not be amisse to note by the way how these men doe vse to ouer-lash in their asseueratioÌ„s to help their feeble cause thereby By the auncient Canons and Decrees of the Church of Rome saith he the issue borne before solemnization of marriage is as lawfull and inheritable marriage following as the issue borne after marriage But this is not sincerely related For the Canon-law as you haue heard putteth diuers restrictions both in the persons to be legitimated and in the ends and effects whervnto they are legitimated as also concerning the Countries Kingdomes wherin they are legitimated Of all which variety of circumstances and considerations M. Attorney saying nothing his intention therin may easily be ghessed at And so much for this matter OF THE LIVES AND RAIGNES OF KING EDVVARD The first and second Father and sonne And what arguments M. Attorney draweth from them towards the prouing of his purpose CHAP. XI HAVING now come downe by orderly descent of seauen hundred yeares more of the raignes of our Christian English Kings shewed them all to haue byn of one and the self same Catholicke Roman religion comforme also in the point of this our controuersie about the acknowledgement and practise of the spirituall power and authoritie of the Sea Apostolicke in England concerning ecclesiasticall affaires And hauing declared the same so largely as you haue heard in three Henries since the Conquest of famous memory and authoritie aboue the rest and the last of them author also and parent of all Statute-law in our Realme we are to examine now in order three Edwardes lineally succeeding the one to the other and all three proceeding from this last named Henry Vnder which Edwardes and their ofspring M. Attorney preteÌ„deth more restraint to haue byn made in some points of the Popes externall iurisdiction then vnder former Kings which though it be graunted vpon some such occasions as after shal be shewed yet will you fynd the matter far shorte of that conclusion which he pretendeth to maintayne that hereby they tooke vpon them spirituall soueraingty in causes Ecclesiasticall You shall see it by the triall OF KING EDVVARD THE FIRST VVhich vvas the nynth King after the Conquest §. I. 2. When King Henry the third dyed his eldest sonne Prince Edward was occupied in the wars of the Holy land being then of the age of thirty three yeares who hearing of his Fathers death retourned presently homeward and passing by the Citty of Rome found there newly made Pope Gregory the tenth called before Theobald with whome in tymes past he had familiarly byn acquainted whiles he was Legate for his predecessor Vrbane the fourth in the said warrs of the Holy-land who receaued him with all honour and loue and graunted vnto him saith Stow the tenth of all Ecclesiasticall benefices in England as well temporall as spirituall for one yeare the like to his brother Edmund for an other in recompence of their expences made in the Holy-land Whervpon when the next yeare after the said Gregory called a generall Councell at Lions in France which was the second held in that place of aboue fiue hundred Bishops and a thousand other Prelates King Edward sent also a most honourable embassage thither both of Bishops and Noble-men 3. This King Edward beginning his raigne in the yeare of Christ 1272. continued the same for almost 35. yeares with variable euents For as he was a tall and goodly Prince in person high in stature and thereof surnamed Long-shanke so was he in mynd also no lesse war-like haughty earnest and much giuen to haue his owne will by any meanes whatsoeuer when once he set himself theron though yet when he was in calme out of passion he shewed himself a most religious and pious Prince 4. Of the later may be example among other things his speciall deuotion to the Blessed Virgin mother of our Sauiour which both Mathew VVestminster and VValsingham doe recount from the very beginning of his raigne doe coÌ„tinue the same throughout his life by occasion of many strange and miraculous 〈◊〉 from imminent dangers which himself ascribed to the said dâ—uotion and to our Blessed Ladies speciall protection Wherevnto may be referred in like maÌ„ner the piety of the said King shewed in diuers other occasions As first of all when in the first yeare of his raigne he voluntarily set forth published and confirmed the Great Charter made by his Father in fauour of the Church saying as in the said Charter is to be read Pro salute animae nostrae animarum antecessorum successorum nostroruus Regum Angliae ad exaltationem Sanctae Ecclesiae emendationem Regni nostri spontanea bona reluntate nostra dedimus concessinius c. We haue giuen and graunted freely of our owne good will this Charter for the health of our soule and of the soules as well of our predecessours as successours Kings of England to the exaltation of holy Church and amendment of our Kidgdome c. 5. And the like piety he shewed in many other occasions in like manner as namely when he being in his iourney with a great army towards Scotland and his wife Q. Eleanor daughter to King Ferdinand the third of Spaine surnamed the Saint a most vertuous religious Lady falling sicke dying neere the borders therof he leauing his course retourned backe with her dead body to London Cunctis diebus vitae suae eam plangebat saith Walsingham Iesum benignum iugis precibus pro ea interpellabat eleemosynarum largitiones Missarum celebrationes pro ea diuersis Regni locis ordinans in perpetuum procurans The King did bewayle this Queenes death all the dayes of his life and did by continual prayers call vpon mercifull Iesus to vse mercy towards her ordeyning great store of almes to be giuen for her as also procuring Masses to be said for her soule in diuers partes of the Kingdome 6. And moreouer in all the places where the said body rested as it came to London he erected great goodly crosses in her memory Vt à transeuntibus saith VValsingham
the 42. yeare of his raigne by a particular Statute And finally vpon the 50. yeare which was the last before he died he made another Statute intituled thus â—he libertyes of the Church confirmed So as all the former restraints were pretended for particular cases only mixt with temporaltyes and for remedy of some excesses and inconueniences without detraction of any thinge from the acknowledged supreme power of the Pope and Sea Apostolicke in meere spirituall matters 41. And how far then is all this that is alleadged here by M. Attorney from prouing that K. Edward the 3. did hold himself for supreme head of the Church euen in spirituall and Ecclesiasticall matters Or that his restraints before made in the cases set downe might bee a president or warrant either de facto or de iure to Q. Elizabeth to K. Henrie the 8. or K. Edward that followed him to denie wholy the Popes authoritie and take it to themselues And so much of this K. Edward the 3. whose religion iudgmeÌ„t though it were euer Catholicke as hath been said yet was his life and actions manie times disordinate and violent as of a souldiar warrier and this not onlie against the liberties of the Church but against the precepts of good life and gouernmeÌ„t also The first appeareth by a longe reprehension written vnto him with threatning likewise of excommunication from Iohn Stratford Archbishop of Canterburie vpon the yeare 1340. wherin he doth sett downe the manie greiuances which he did laie vpon the Church vniustlie And for the second it maie bee vnderstood as wel by the same narration of the foresaid Archbishop wherin he said to the king admonishing him of his fathers miserable end Ferè corda populo terra amisistis You haue almost lost the hearts of all the people of the land As also the same is euideÌ„t by the generall testimonie of our historiographers who make the later parte of his raigne to haue been very much disordered thereby also vnfortunate miserable as maie appeer by these words of VValsingham who hauing much commended other graces in him saith Luxus tameÌ„ motus suae carnis lubricos etiam in aetate senili non cohibuit c. he did not euen in his old age restraine the luxurious and fraile motioÌ„s of his owne flesh being much allured hereunto as is said by the incitation of a certaine dishonest woman named Alice Pierce that was with him vnto the end of his life and was cause of hastening the same And it is greatlie to bee noted as in the former parte of his raigne all things went prosperously with him so towards the later end in his old age through the demerit of his synnes all fell out contrarie c. OF KING RICHARD THE SECOND The tweluth King after the Conquest § I. 42. Next after the death of K. Edward succeded his Nephew K. Richard the 2. for 22. years sonne of Prince Edward surnamed the Black Prince who died not long before his father The child was but an eleuen yeares old when he tooke the Crowne and of verie great expectation but that youth wealth and commaundrie in that age with adulation and peruerse counsaile of licencious people that are wont to accompanie that state and condition of Princes drew him aside to his owne pittifull ruine in the end and would God in his life conuersation gouernment he had as well held the stepps and wisedome of his auncestors as he did in the outward maintenance of their religion and obedieÌ„ce towards the Sea Apostolicke for that probably it would haue preserued him froÌ„ the miseries whereunto hee fell though it bee true also that dissolution of life doth commonlie bring with it conteÌ„pt or neglect or lesse estimation of religion whervnto this man and some that were about him had the more occasion giuen them by the prophane and wicked doctrine of VViâ—kâ—liffe his fellows that preuailed much in these daies and brought many of the Common people to such fury contempt of all religion as their strange tumults and raging rebellions vnder their Captaines wat Tyler Iack Straw and other like vnruly rulers doe well declare 43. But yet the externall face of religion and practice therof receiued and established from the times of all former Kings was continued also by him in particular it is to be noted that no one King did euer more often confirme and ratifie the liberties of the Church then he which is as much to say as to establish the opposite negatiue proposition against M. Attorney professing heerby that he had not supreme authority in causes Ecclesiasticall for so much as the libertyes of the English Church did expressly consist in this that Church-men and Church-matters and all spirituall and ecclesiasticall affaires were a distinct gouernment from the temporall and subordinate only among themselues the one degree to the other and all mediately to the Sea Apostolicke and Bishops therof 44. For proofe then of this that King Richard did confirme and maintaine all the dayes of his raigne these libertyes franquises and priuiledges of the Church and of Clergy-men appeareth by his owne Statutes As for example by the first Statute made in his first yeare with this title A confirmation of the libertyes of the Church and the second Statute made in his second yeare hath the same title and subiect as also hath the first Statute of his third yeare and first of his 5. and first of his 6. and first of his seauenth yeare And so in like manner shall we find the very first Statutes of his 12. and 21. years to containe the same confirmation 45. And if I should stand vpon the enumeration of particular examples of the practice of these libertyes in Clergy-men of those dayes it would be ouerlonge as namely how all Bishops Archbishops Abbots and other Prelates elected according to the agreement before taken repaired to the Bishop of Rome for their confirmations and could not exercise any parte of their offices vntill they had the same And albeit according to the former decrees of the 25. and 27. yeares of K. Edward the 3. confirmed also in the 13. and 16. yeares of the raigne of this King reseruations of benefices or prouisions immediately from the Court of Rome were not admitted which little importeth our controuersie with M. Attorney yet this which includeth the maine ground substantiall fouÌ„dation of all acknowledgement of supreme spirituall power remained still vntouched to wit that no Bishop Archbishop or other Prelate by whomsoeuer he was presented chosen or nominated could or can at this day haue spirituall iurisdiction but either mediaté or immediatè from the Pastor of the Sea Apostolicke And this point did K. Richard maintaine and defend all dayes of his life which is the principal point as hath byn said of acknowledging the soueraigne authority of the Sea Apostolicke in spirituall affaires for that other things are but dependance of this as
is a lawyer and delighteth in the word that hath byn so beneficiall vnto him but yet alleadgeth here no law at all nor can he doe For what law is that by iugment wherof the Sanctuarie of S. Iohns Church in London grauÌ„ted by the Pope was disalowed for so much as all other Sanctuaries had and haue from that Sea their franquises and liberties Was it Common-law or Canon and Ecclesiasticall Not Ecclesiasticall For that all such law dependeth from thence and consequently cannot be supposed to haue disanulled the Popes authority in graunting Sanctuary Common law if it were it must appeare how it came in by whom it was admitted by what right it came to haue conusauÌ„ce of this Ecclesiasticall cause which M. Attorney so often hath denyed before to apperteyne to his Common-law wherof ensueth that eyther those temporall Iudges exceeded their limites in handling this cause or that there was some temporall circumstance therein that brought it into that Courte 10. And surely it may bee that this Sanctuarie pretended by the Prior of the Knights of S. Iohns in London might not onlie bee the ordinary Sanctuarie of their Church and appurtenances thereunto which all Churches haue by Canon law more or lesse but also of some greater circuite round about their said Church and habitatioÌ„ which they being Knights and souldiars might importe some inconueniences to the common wealth by occasion of contentions fights brawles that might there fall out the temporall officers hauing no accesse by reason of the said pretended Sanctuary And so this case not being meere spirituall but mixt also with temporall interest of the Common-wealth the common Iudges vntill the matter were better discussed and resolued in ecclesiasticall right might put difficultie about the admission or execution of the said priuiledges without the Kings expresse consent And this is answered according to M. Attorneys allegation supposing it to bee sincere not hauing by me the bookes as before I haue said out of which he hath taken the same the view whereof no doubt would discouer more therfore I recommend the examination to the Reader that may haue commoditie to see and read the places But let vs see another Instance of two more of his out of this Kinges raigne The Attorney There it appeareth that the opinion of the Kings-bench had been oftentimes that if one spirituall person sue another spirituall man in the Courte of Rome for a matter spirituall where he might haue remedy before his Ordinary that is the Bishop of that Diocesse within the Realme Quia trabit ipsum in placitum extraregnum incurreth the dauÌ„ger of a Premunire a hainons offence being contra legiantiae suae debitum in contemptum Domini Regis contra â—oronam dignitatem suas By which it appeareth how greiuous an offence it was against the King his Crowne and dignity if any subiect although both the persons cause were spirituall did seeke for iustice out of the Realme as though either there wanted iurisdiction or iustice was not executed in the Ecclesiastical Courts within the same which as it hath byn said was an high offence contra Regem Coronam dignitatem suas The Catholicke Deuine By this instance a man may greatly suspect that M. Attorney dealeth not sincerely but amplifieth and exaggerateth matters to his purpose But howsoeuer this bee cleere it is that he dealeth not substantially For heere only the note alleadged saith that the opinion of the Kings-bench had byn oftentymes that if one spirituall or Ecclesiasticall person should sue another in the Courte of Rome when he might haue remedy before his Ordinary at home he incurreth the daunger of a Premunire for that he draweth a Plea out of the Kingdome without necessity Well then this is but the opinion of some temporall lawyers of the Kings-bench that a man that should doe this should be in daunger of a Premunire for that he draweth a Plea out of the Kingdome when he might haue sufficient remedy by his spirituall Iudge at home And this is according to the Statutes before made vnder King Edward the third and Richard the second as you haue heard that matters may not be carryed to Rome at the first instance but by way of appellation when they cannot haue iustice at home And this taketh not away the Popes authority as you see but rather confirmeth the same and punisheth only disorderly people that will vex and trouble men with citing them to Rome without necessitie 12. Which being so you will see how friuolous M Attorneys exaggeration is heer in painting out vnto vs with so great an hyperbole of words this haynons offence against the duty of loyalty in contempt of the King our Lord and contrary to his crowne and dignity c. And why is all this adoe For that saith he a subiect of the realme doth seeke for iustice out of the Realme in spirituall causes as though there wanted iurisdiction or iustice within the Realme which is an high offence contra Regem coronam dignitatem suas Whereto I aunswere that what high offence it may be against suas here twise repeated in the English but corrected by the Latyn Interpreter I know not but sure I am that against King Crowne or Royall dignity it can be none no more in England then in other Catholicke Kingdomes round about vs. And the reason here alleadged by M. Attorney excludeth all appellations betwene subordinate Courts as wel within the Realme as without if it should be admitted and taken for good Wherefore when he writeth in the margent Note as though some great argument were alleadged for his purpose It is a note that he hath small store of substance to note when he standeth so much vpon such a toy The Attorney In the Kings Courts of Record where felonies are determined the Bishop or his deputy ought to giue his attendance to the end that yf any that is indicted and arraigned for felony doe demaund the benefit of his Clergy that the Ordinary may informe the Court of his sufficiency or insufficiency that is whether he can read as a Clarke or not wherof notwithstanding the Ordinary is not to Iudge but is a minister to the Kings Court the Iudges of that Court are to Iudge of the sufficiency or insufficiency of the party whatsoeuer the Ordinary doe informe them and vpon due examination of the party may giue iudgement against the Ordinaryes information For the Kings Iudges are Iudges of the cause The Catholicke Deuine 13. I am content to admitt anie iudges in this cause whether it be not impertinent to M. Attorneys purpose to bring in this instance For howsoeuer he goeth about in words to dazel this case yet is it euident that for so much as the Church by her priuiledge of Superioritie taketh out of the hands of temporall iustice men condemned to dy for felony onlie for that they can read like Clerkes though they bee no Clarkes
all appeals in causes Ecclesiasticall to the Court of Rome reducing all spirituall authority of determining the same vnto the body spirituall of the English Clergy for so the words of the statute are The body spirituall of the English Church saith he hauing power when any cause of the law diuine happened to come in question or of spirituall learning c. to declare and determine all such doubts to administer al such offices duties as to their roomes spiritual did appertaine without the intermedling of any exteriour person or persons c. Wherby it appeareth that by this Statute he reduceth all spirituall power to a certaine community of the Ecclesiasticall body of England but in the second Statute that followed in the yeare after against suing for licences dispensations facultyes graunts rescripts or delegacyes to Rome he seemeth to establish all authority in the Archbishop of Canterbury that was then Thomas Cranmer newly made by himself for allowing of his marriage with Lady Anne Bullen for so he saith in the statute That the Archbishop of Canterbury for the tyme being and his successours shall haue power and authority from tyme to tyme by their discretions to giue graunt and dispose by an instrument vnder the seale of the said Archbishop vnto the King and vnto his heirs successours Kings of this Realme as well all maÌ„ner of such licences dispensations compositions facultyes graunts rescrips delegacyes instruments and other writings for causes not being contrary or repugnant to the holy scriptures and lawes of God as heertofore had byn vsed and accustomed to be had and obtained by the King or any his most noble progenitors or any of his or their subiects at the Sea of Rome or any person or persons by authority of the same c. 12. Lo heer King Henry giueth authority to the Archbishop of Canterbury to giue vnto him to wit to King Henry himself and his successors Kings of England and their subiects all dispensations which they were wont to â—â—ke and obtaine at the Popes hand so as heer he acknowledgeth that in former times that authority belonged to the Pope and that his auncestors and progenitors were of that opinion but that now he being offended with him he would take it from him and bestow it vpon the Archbishop of Canterbury subiecting himself and his inheritours to aske and obtaine the said dispensations at his hands and his successours which was as you see to make Archbishop Cranmer Pope and not himself for this yeare as the whole body of the English Clergy was for the yeare past 13. And wheras it is euident that King Henry gaue this authority to Cranmer for dispensing c. to the end he should dispense with him for marrying of the said Lady Anne Bullen it seemeth strange that he would vse this so ridiculous circuyt as first to giue authority by Parlament to Cranmer to be able to dispense with him to wit with King Henry the giuer and would not take immediatly either by himself or by Parlament authority to himself to dispense with himself But it is well seen that he had some remorse or shame-fastnes therin at the first beginning though the very next yeare after he amended the matter or rather made it worse by assuming it to himself For calling another Parlament vpon the 26. of his raigne he made the first Statute of all with this Title An act concerning the Kings Highnes to be Supreme head of the Church of England and to haue authority to reforme and redresse all errors heresies and abuses in the same Wherby you may see what gradation was vsed in this matter or rather mistery giuing this power first to the Community of the English Clergy secondly to the Archbishop of Canterbury and thirdly to himself and all this in three distinct yeares immediately following one the other 14. And now if mens euerlasting saluation must depend vpon these mutations of spirituall iurisdiction as no doubt they did in thousands of our Countrey at that tyme and if the eternall wisdome of our Sauiour Christ hath left no more certainty for direction of our soules by spirituall gouernement and authority then this of our English Parlament which changeth so often and easely as you haue heard vpon euery Princes particuler inclination then are we doubtlesse in a pittifull plight for that as hath byn declared before of the certainty of this spirituall power for binding or loosing of our sinnes for SacrameÌ„ts instructions directions and all other spirituall helps and assistance in this life dependeth the surety of our euerlasting saluation or damnation in the life to come 15. But to goe forward a little further in this matter now we haue King Henry head of the Church and M. Attorney no doubt is glad therof for helping of his cause though it help it but little or nothing at all it being the first example that euer could be giuen therof in England or elswhere throughout the Christian world and so much the more to be misliked if we beleiue Iohn Caluin in his sharp reproofe of this attempt which he calleth Tyrannicall Anti-Christian But M. Attorney perhaps will not care for Caluin or Beza or any of their followers in this point for that it maketh not to his purpose Well then he must notwithstanding graunt this in all reason that if this supreme authoritie spirituall was wel and rightly and by gods direction spirit and allowance taken vpon himself by King Henry then is it likely that he was guided also by the same spirit afterward in making his decrees laws and ordinances for directing and gouerning the English Church by that authority and especially for reforming and redressing of all errors heresies and abuses therin according to the speciall title of his said authority before set down wherof it followeth that when vpon the 31. yeare of his raigne which was fiue after the said authoritie giuen him hee calling a Parlament determined six mayne and principall articles of protestant religion to bee heresies to witt The deniall of the reall presence of the communion vnder one kind only That Priests may marrie That vowes of chastitie may bee broken That priuate masses are not lawfull That sacramentall or auricular confession is not necessarie appointing them that should hould any of these heresies so coÌ„deÌ„ned by him to be burned as notorious hereticks it followeth I say that this was decreed by him out of the same spirit and direction of god for that otherwise his Ecclesiasticall supremacy had byn to small purpose if there were no certainty in his determinations or that God would permit him to erre so grosly in so importaÌ„t a busines as this was for the whole Church of England so soone after he had ginen him his said supreme authoritie Ecclesiasticall 16. And that this was done by him against the Protestants with great deliberation consultation aduise maturity in the fullnes of his power Ecclesiasticall appeareth
Power and the author therof c. 2. n. 2. Power spirituall and temporall and the different endes therof cap 2. n. 3. 4. deinceps per totum caput Power spirituall of the Church and pastors therof cap. 3. n. 10. Power spirituall more eminent than temporall cap. 2. n. 19. Premunire and the first beginning of that law cap. 12. n. 11. Priuiledges and franquises of Churches and monasteryes procured from the Pope cap. 6. n. 37.38 deinceps Priuiledges of the Abbey of Euesham cap. 6. n. 42. Of the Abbey of S. Albans ibid. n. 43. Priuiledges of Glastenbury-Abbey from Rome cap 6. num 45. Priuiledges of VVestminster procured by K. Edward the Confessor cap. 6. num 47. Priuiledges of Ecclesiasticall men in temporall courtes cap. 7. n. 18. alibi saepissimè Promotion of strangers to Ecclesiasticall dignityes in England cap. 10. num 21. 22. cap. 11. num 36. The inconueniences therof to Englishmen ibidem Protestants doctrine condemned by K. Henry the 8. cap. 15. num 15. Prouisions against bribing at Rome cap. 13. n. 21. Prouisions of Ecclesiasticall liuinges in England made by the Pope c. 12. n. 5. The CoÌ„plaintes therof by Englishmen ibidem The continuance of the same in England cap. ibid. n. 9. AgreemeÌ„t therabout made betweene the Pope and the Kinge cap. ibid. n. 21. Q. Queene Eleanour Mother to K. Richard the first her iorney to Sicily cap. 9. num 29. Her returne by Rome and busines there with the Pope ibid. num â— Her complaintes and petition to Pope Celestinus ibid. num 39.40 41. Queene Elizabeths spirituall authority giuen her by Parlament cap. 3. num 3. 4. The inconueniences and absurdityes that follow therof ibid. n. 4. 5. 6. cap. 4. num 27. Her singularity in that point ibidem num 28. Her supremacy mistiked by Protestants Puritans cap. 4. num 41. 42. 43 44. 45. 46. 47. 48. Causes that moued her first to accept of the Supremacy cap. 15. num 35. 36. Her conferenâ—e vvith Syr Fran. Inglefield ibid. num 37. Item with the Count of Feria the Spanish Embassadour ibid. num â—â— Her protestation about the Real-presence in the Sacrament ibidem n 39. Her ConfereÌ„ce with Mounsieur Lansacke the French Embassadour ibidem num 41. Her owne inclination towards Catholicke Religion ibid num 42. How she vvas drawne to great extremes and cruelty against Catholicks cap. 15. num 43. Queene Mary her raigne cap. 15. n. 3â— Her restoring of Catholicke Religion in England cap. 15. num 31. 32. R. Reasons that shew william the Conrour to haue alwayes acknowledged the Sea of Rome cap. 7. num 8.9.10 deinceps Recourse to Rome presently after Englands Conuersion about Ecclesiasticall affaires cap. 6. num 10,11 12. Recourse to Rome by the Kinges of England and Scotland in their greatest Controuersyes cap. 11. num 44. Recusancy of Puritans and the first cause therof cap. 16. num 5. Recusancy of Catholickes from the beginning of Q. Elizabeth raigne cap. 16. num 7. Reformation of the English Clergy by King Henry the 7. cap. 14. num 15. Reliques sent to King Osway of NorthumberlaÌ„d by Pope Vitalianus c. 6. n. 24. ResignatioÌ„ of inuestitures by K. Henry the first cap. 8. num 14. Restraintes of exercising the Popes Authority in England and how the same vvere first made cap. 2. num 41. cap. 10. num 25. cap. 12. num 35. King Richard the first his raigne c. 9. num 22. 23. deinceps His misfortunes ibid. num 23. His behauiour and oath at his Coronation ibid. num 25. His voiage to Ierusalem ibid. num 26. 27. His kingdome commended to the Popes protection ibid num 27. His mother sent from Rome to Sicily ibid. num 30. His letter to Pope Clement the 3. ibid num 31. His captiuity in Austria ibid. num 38. K. Richard the second his disorders cause therof cap. 21. num 42. His confirmation of Church-libertyes ibid. num 43. His obedience to the Church-Censures ibid num 47. S. Sanctuary graunted by the Pope to S. Iohns Church in London cap. 14. num 9. Denyed by the temporall iudges ibid. num 10. Scruple of Conscience vrged vpon M. Attorney cap. 16. num 14. Sectaryes not any vvay compared to Catholickes vvhy c. 1. n. 13.14 15. Sectaryes their vayne comendation of Truth cap. 1. num 16. Singularity of knovvledge in heretickes cap. 1. num 5. 6. 7 Statute in Parlament for giuing spirituall authority to Q. Elizabeth cap. 3. num â— â—â— â— 19. The absurdityes that therof ensue ibid. num 5. 6. 7. num 19.20 21. 23. 24. Statutes of K. Henry the 3. in fauour of the Church cap. â—0 num 27. Statute of Merton made by K. Henry the 3. cap. 10. num 39. Statute of Bigamy anno 4. Edouardi 1. cap. 11. num 30. Statute of Carliele made in the raigne of King Edward the first c. 11. n. â—9 Statute against Lollards cap. 13 n. 22. 23. Statute for reformation of the Clergy cap. 14. num 15. K. Stephen his raigne ouer England cap. 8. num 25. His oath for the libertyes of the Church ibid. num 27. His inconstancy by euill counsaile ibid. num 28. His violence vsed against Clergy-men ibid. His citation and appearance before the Bishops ibid num 31. Stigand Archbishop of Canterbury deposed cap. 7. num 9. Strangers their promotions to Ecclesiasticall dignityes in England and inconueniences therof cap. 10. num 21. 22. 23. cap. 11. num 36. Remedyes sought therof from the Popes of those tymes ibid. num 38. Supremacy Ecclesiasticall not possibly in a woman cap. 4. num 26. 27. Supremacy assumed first by K. Henry the 8. cap. 15. num 13.14 15. Also by K. Edward the 6 ibid num 26. Item by Q. Elizabeth ibid. num 34.35 36. 37. Suppression of the kinghtes of the temple cap. 11. num 43. Synne of heresy how great and greiuous cap. 16. num 26 27. T Tenantes of the Church priuiledged  A straÌ„ge attempt to impugne Catholicke religion by Catholicke Princes lawes in EnglaÌ„d The importance of M. Attorneys Plea The singularity of M. Attorneyes paradox Ciâ— Tuscul q. 3. M. Attorney chalenged of his promise The Author promiseth all modesty in this answere M. Attorney bound in conscience and honour to enforme a nevv his Maiesty * M. Garnet M. Attorneyes ouerlashing in speech Math. 5. Math. 12 The Diuelâ—s sinnes in â—â—pting Adam M. Garnetts case Hovv things heard in confessioÌ„ may not be vttered by Catholick doctrine A partition not afterward performed M. Garnet an honest man by M. Attorneyes warrant M. Attorneyes wit in making a bloudy law to be a sweet lavv About Equiuocation About the antiquity vniuersality of the Protestant Church A straÌ„ge discourse of M Attorney about his Church * Many all 's A theologicall argumet for the Roman Church Mar. vltimo Iâ—an 14. 10. Mat. 10. 1 Timo. 3.
the Kings Ecclesiasticall lavves or the Ecclesiasticall lavves of England Statut. de Consult editum an 24. E. 1. The explication true meaning of the former prouision 〈…〉 â—â—dâ—â—ations 〈◊〉 anno 5. Edouardi 2. 〈◊〉 18. 〈◊〉 â— cap. 5. Different Courtes shevv different origen of authorityes M. Attorneys common refuge refuted These 2. Kings made most restraints The punishment of these tvvo Princes and their posterity for their violence vsed tovvards the church Particular motiues of K. Edvvard 3. for proceeding as he had VValsingam in vit Ed. 1. anno â—341 The Kings letter to Pope Clement the sixt The complaint reasons against prouisions froÌ„ Rome * Sup. 35. â— â— VValsingam 〈◊〉 vita Edouards 3. The humble supplication of King Edvvard to the Pope before he made his restrictioÌ„s King Edvvardes great embassage vnto the Pope King Edvvards protestation of obedience for himself and his The continâ—ance of the Popes proâ—â—â—â—â— in England VValsing in vita Ed â— an 1366. Diuers other examples The lavve of premunire Polidor hist. Angl. lib. 19. A concordate betvvene the Pope and K. Edvv. for prouisions Supra cap. â— â— 4. 1. instance 16 â— 3. 〈◊〉 excom 4. 1. Ansvvere VValsing in vita Edou 3. anno 1340. â— instance In the Raigne of Ed. 3. â— Ansvvere Snprâ— fol 9. The common lavv cannot determine vvho shall giue cure of benefices vvith spirituall authority belonging therevnto This instance maketh against M. Attorney himselfe 3. Instance 17. â— 3. 23. 20. E 3. enâ—oâ—â—â— 9.16 E. 3 tit bâ—â—u 66. 21 E. 3.6 â— H. 7. 14. Fâ—â—z Na. br 2. Ed. 3. â—â—t excom 6. 21 E. 3. 4. fol. 4. 23. E 3. l. Ass pl. 75. 27. Ed. 3. fol 84. Fitz Na. Br. fol. 34. The Ansvvere to the first second 26. 〈◊〉 King Edâ—vard did not giue Episcopal iurisdictioÌ„ Supra cap. 2. 3. The saying of the Emp. Valentin Supra cap. 4. Supra cap. 6. To the 4. Trifling obiectioÌ„s To the 5. To the sixth Supra cap. 7. M. Attorneys case plaine against himself The 4. Instance 30. E. 3. l. ass pl. 19. 32. H. 4. 16 14 H. 4. 14. 8. H. 6. fol. 3. 35. H. 6. 42. 28 H 6. 1. 7. Ed. 36 14. 11. E. 4. 16 Fitz. Na. Br. fol. 64 E. vide 9. E. 4. fol. 3. hereafter fol. 11. It ought to be determined in the Ecclesiastical Courtes of EnglaÌ„d 21. E. 3. tit excoâ— 6. 31 â— 3. tit Ayde de Roy 103. The Ansvvere Bulls from Rome not admitted except they come certifyed froÌ„ some Prelate at home Sâ—â— Sup. cap. 7. Kings are capable of ecclesiasticall iurisdiction by commission The â— Instance 38. ass pl. 30. See the stat of 15. E. t. c. 4. 31. E. â— c. 11. 38. Ass. pl. 22. 46. E. â— tit pramunure 6. 49. E. 3. l. Ass. pl. 8. The Ansvvere Some things may beloÌ„g to differeÌ„t courtes in different respects Supra in 〈◊〉 â— VVhy the Abbot of VValtam vvas seuerely punished The â— Instance The summe of the first restraint about Prouisions Stat. 25. E. 3. de prouisoribus The Ansvvere AgreemeÌ„t betvvene the King and Pope about prouisioÌ„s VValsing in vita 〈◊〉 an 1371. See S. Bernard a◠〈◊〉 â—l 2. de Consideracione ad Eugeniâ—â— Of the reasons manner of coÌ„cluding these restraints by K. E. the 3. King Edvvards restraints diminished not his devv respect to the church An. 2â— E. 3. â—tat 3. Stat. â— cap. 1. 42. E. 3. â— 1. The disordinate life of K. Edvvard the third VValsing in vita Edouardi 3. an 1340. This King raigned 12 years froÌ„ 1377. to 1399. The causes of K. Richardes disorders King Richard often confirmed the libertyes of the church The practice of Church-libertyes by Clergy-men vnder K. Richard the second Respect borne by King Richard to the true Pope 2. Rich. 2. cap. 7. King Richard obeyed the Censures of the Church VValsing an 1379. M. Attorneys Instance out of this K. Raigne The crovvne of EnglaÌ„d not subiect to any in temporalityes In vvhat sense the Bishop yelded to the statute of Premunire K. Henr. 4. raigned 13. yeares from 1399. to 1412. Stovv in Kent 4. H. â— raigned ten years from 1412. to 1422. Richard Earle of Cambridg Henry lord Scroope treasurer Edmond Earle of March c. H. 6. raigned 18 yeres from 1422. to 146â— Polidor lib. 12. Hist. Augâ— in Hen. 6. VValsing in vita Henriei 4. an 1490. English Prelates sent to the Councell of CoÌ„stance Lavves for executing of Lollard and vvicklifists First Instance 2. H. 4. fol. 9. The Ansvvere Hovv Bishops may be called the Kings spirituall Iudges Supra cap. â— 2 Instance Fitz. Nat. 〈◊〉 269. This had a resemblance to an Attainder of treason â—herin there must be first an ind4ctment by one Iurie and a conuiction â—y anâ—ther 11. H. 4. 37. The Ansâ—â—re Tvvo condemnation not euer necessary in case of hâ—resy M. Attorneys marginal note reproued In Cod. l. Manicheos l. Arriani l. Quicunque apud Paul Diacon l. 14. 16. * See cap. ad abolendum cap. excoÌ„municamus extra de haeret in 6. de heret cap. Super co 6. Decâ—et l 5. 〈◊〉 2. de liçreticis An. 1227. Decree of Pope Gregory the nynth about proceeding against heretickes Causa 15. q. 7. c. Si quia tumidus ex con 1. Carthag Hovv the Pope in old time might alter English lavves 3 Instance 1. H. 4. fol. 69. 76. 14. H. 4. f. 14. vide 20. E. 3. l. ass pl. 19. before vide 13. E. 3. Certificat 6. vide 20. H. 6. 1. 35. H. 6. 42. 7. E. 14. Fitz. Na. Br. 46. ff 14. H. 4. 14. Statut. de 2. H. 4. cap. 3. Ansvvere to the first To the second VVhence Bishops courtes haue their authority * Râ—portes fol. 8. 9. To the third The King may commaund the Bishop to doe his duty 4 To the fourth 4 Instance Stat. 6. H. 4. 1. The Ansvvere Against brybing in Rome and other like abuses The first instaâ—ce of the Attorney Stat. de 3. H. 5 cap. 4. The Ansvvere This statute maketh nothing for M. Attorney Statut. de 2. H. 5. â— 7. Lâ—llardy a â—olio For as Cockâ—e is the 〈◊〉 of the Corne so is heresie the destruction of true religion Statut. de 2. H. 5. c. 1. The Ansvvere VVhy teÌ„porall Iustices medled vvith Lollards VValsing in vita Heâ—riâ—s 5. VVhence the name of Lollards vvas taken The three conuersions of EnglaÌ„d part 2. â—ap 9. nu 31. cap. 19. num 34. 35. c. For in his booke of Acts and monuments pag. 419. â— H. 6 fol. â— 9 H. 6. fol. 16. 1 H. 6. 1â— To the first Bullâ— could not be promulgated vvithout the certificate of a Bishop To the second See Supra cap. 6. 3 to the third K. Ed. 4. raigned .12 yeres from 1460. to 1483. Syr Thom. More in â—it Richards .2 〈◊〉 â— Richard 3. raigned from 14â—3 to 1485. K Henry the seueÌ„th raigned from 1485. to 1509. to vvit 24. yeres All fovver Princes agree in our