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A53183 The observator prov'd a trimmer: or, Truth and justice vindicated in the history of the murther of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey, and the several popish shams since made use of to amuse the world about it. Being a full answer to certain late pamphlets, intituled, Observators; wherein the evidence of that gentlemans being murthered by papists, is very falsly stated; and the positions and practices of the Church of Rome, too favourably represented. Humbly dedicated to the clergy of England. 1685 (1685) Wing O123JA; ESTC R220290 48,608 47

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greatest Hatred Contempt and vile Esteem with all the Kings Subjects to deter the Kings Subjects from sinding detecting and proving the Designs of PAPISTS against ur Lord the King and the true Religion now by Law established and impiously and wickedly devising and intending them the said Gerald Dominick Kelly and Philbert Vernat from undergoing the Pains and Sentence by Law upon them to be inflicted for the Murther aforesaid and to aid and assist them altho' they beguilty to be found not guilty thereof and so deceive and begiule the Kings Subjects in the Premises with their False Affirmations and Arguments and cause and procure that it should be believed and esteemed that the said Green Berry and Hill the Persons for the Murther of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey as afore said Convicted and Executed had been Convicted and Executed Vnjustly and that the said Sir Edmundbury Godfry was Felo de se and himself had Felloniously Murthered They the said Thompson Pain and Farewel their most impudent wicked and diabolical Intentions to fulfill and perfect afterwards to wit the 23 of February in the 34th year of the Reign of Our now Soveraign Lord the King at the Parish of St. Mary Le Bow London with Force and Arms c. falsly unlawfully unjustly wickedly and Diabolically made and Composed and caused to be Printed a certain false scandalous Libel Entituled A Letter to Mr. Miles Prance in Relation to the Murther of Sir Edmundbury Godfrey in which Libel amongst other things is contained c. Reciting then the most material Passages of the said Libel Which Case being brought to Tryal June 20. 1682. after a mighty Expectation raised by the confident Papers dayly Printed by Thompson the Defendants were not able to produce any Testimony that had the least shew of Truth or Religion To justifie those Allegations but on the contrary generally their own Witnesses made against them For Example First About the pretended Blood found near the place where the Body lay One William Balson a Witness Swears that on the Friday coming back from viewing the Body at the White-house whether it had been carryed over Night by the Constable after it was found They shewed me in a Ditch where they said lay some Blood I cannot say it was his Blood but I 'le assure you The Blood looked to me like Blood that was left there rather than any thing else Thompsons Tryal pag. 22. So Mr. Lazingby one of their Witnesses Swears The Blood that was was some four yards from the Ditch I put my Finger into it and smelt to it and it smelt like that which comes from a Body after a Fortnights time dead rather than a Weeks My Lord It was Blood and Water the Water will separate from the Blood Ibidem p. 25. Here note that probably some of the Murtherers or their Agents that Conveyed the Body thither after they heard it was found and removed into a House might privately the next day lay some Blood near the place the better to colour their designed Lye That he Murthered himself 2. The Witnesses produced by the Defendants all agree Sir Edmundbury to have been Strangled Thus Fisher swears He lookt as if he were Strangled and his Neck was so weak that you might turn it any Way p. 22. So by the Chirurgeons by them produced Mr. Chase my Lord I believe he was Straugled for I don't believe that those Injuries that were offered about him could be after he was dead pag. 23. And Mr. Hobbs Indeed My Lord I thought he was strangled that was my opinion Ibidem See Mr. Lazingby He appeared to me to be Strangled and that which strangled him was kept about his Neck till he was very cold pag. 25. And that from the upper part of his Neck to his Stomach and Breast was very much discoloured and black and his mouth was discolcured Now says he when ever a man is bruised whilst he is Alive or whlist he is Warm the part after the Person is dead will soonest Corrupt page 26. 3. As for the story of Fly-blows there was no Proof but the contrary and Brown swears that Farewel would have him say so but that he never did say so page 24. 4. It is observeable that as Thompson in his Libels had not omitted this Topick now improved by the Observator viz. The difference between the Evidence Mr. Bedloe gave in the House of Lords and the Evidence that Prance gave at the Tryal of Green Berry and Hill So Mr. Farewel desired he might prove Copies of the Journals And my Lord Chief Justice that then was replyed You shall make any proof you will But Mr. Farewel though he caused one Stanly to be sworn to prove those Copies did presently 't is supposed by advice of his Council knowing how vain any such thing would be go off from and declined that Proof and all that they had to offer being heard My Lord Chief Justice delivered himself in these Words Gentlemen I did give him speaking of Farewel who seemed the chief Person in this Intrigue leave to go into what Evidence he would in this Case net that I thought it materiale for if he could have PROVED NEVER SO MUCH yet his MALICE had been NEVER the LESS to have gone and aspersed the GOVERNMENT What had he to do to meddle with it To what purpose should he write Books concerning the matters of Government To traduce the Justice of the Nation The People had suffered as Malefactors If they had suffered INNOCENTLY he ought to have done no such thing as this is he did design and would no doubt of it have been very much satisfied if he could have made but some probable Evidence that Sir Edmundbury Godfrey kill'd himself and I was desirous to hear what they would say for themselves But you hear what a kind of Evidence it is Not a Witness he hath called but 't is as much against him as can be and does Evince it plainly that the man was killed by Strangling And so the Evidence was upon the Tryal of Green Berry and Hill if he could have raised a Doubt about it yet his offence had not been Mitigated by it for a private Person is not to Arraign the Justice of the Nation But I was willing to hear what could be said in the Case whether a Doubt could be made in the World that Sir Edmundbury Godfrey was not Murthered and you see how his veay Evidence hath in all things coufirmed the Evidence that Prance hath given that he was killed and that by STRANGLING I must leave it with you Gentlemen they are three in this mischief 't is a Combination of them to astront the publick Iustice of the Nation And what is the end of it The end of it is to make people believe there is no Popish piot But it is plain He was killed by the popish party As Prance upon his Evidence against Green and the others Attested But if they could have made it out That he