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A76759	A rejoinder consisting of two parts, the first entituled, The ballance, or, A vindication of the proceedings and judgement of Parliament and their ministers, in the cases of William (called lord) Craven, Christopher Love. : From the scandalous allegations and ironical reflections of Ralph Farmer ... in a late infamous libel of his, named, The imposter dethron'd, etc. ... Wherein the Commonwealth's case as to the one is briefly stated, and the treasons of the other are rehearsed as a looking-glass for the priests, and an awakening to England. : The second, Evil scattered from the throne, and the wheel brought over the wicked: in an examination of that part of The imposter dethron'd as is in way of reply to The throne of truth exalted, etc.	Bishop, George, d. 1668.	1658 (1658)	Wing B3004A; ESTC R170664	67,249	93

not reporting of Drury and Brisco's Examinations aforesaid which tended to the vindication of the Lord Craven when as those that made against him were reported And with my purchasing a considerable part of his Estate all which R. F. hath laid to my charge as indirect dealing and therein keeps a great a do from the Pamphlet entituled A true and perfect Narrative c. I answer Although that Pamphlet with all the particulars therein and the residue of the contents thereof are at large argued and answered in the aforesaid Book entituled The Lord Cravens Case which as I have said I lent R. F. at his desire that of the truth of things in behalf of the Commonwealth he might not be ignorant and unto which because not refell'd or infirm'd by R. F. J have already to avoid prolixity referr'd the Reader for satisfaction yet that J may not seem to avoid speaking because unable to answer nor leave the Reader for the clearing of these things at such a distance as the perusual of those books which he may not have by him J shall in short Reply 1. To the first Drury was not remanded into safe custody by me for any such intent or purpose in the least as to obstruct proceedings that Sessions nor was it so much as in my thoughts but because Drury being a prisoner to the Council for Treason which he his fellow Brisco had confessed under examination did suffer himself to be treated sworn and examined in a Case wherein the Common-Wealth was concern'd without first acquainting the Council or Committee or me who had let him have his liberty upon perol therewith which he ought to have done or declaring unto them who so treated swore examined him that he was in such a condition by which his behaviour he appeared not to be in that indifferency and uprightness as became a Witness but in combination against the State whose Prisoner he was Not that the offence was because he was examined on his Lords behalf had that been the thing in design to hinder it could as hath been said easily have been prevented either by keeping him and Brisco prisoners or taking away the draught of their petition or having them both tryed Nor that J apprehended that his Testimony could acquit his Lord of the guilt for which the Parliament adjudged his Estate to be confiscated his very examination being a further proof of his Lords delinquency not an acquittal as anon vvill appear Nor that proceedings should not have been had against Fauconer in a legal way had it been so he would have been detained longer then four dayes and his Lords Friends constrained to have past thorough the bars and locks of the Authority of the Council which was by Act of Parliament thereunto but for the Reasons aforesaid Nor had Drury been at liberty could there reasonable have been expected a Tryal that Sessions though the Narrator aforesaid on whose bottom or rather falshood R. F. hath raised this slander upon me hath alledged That Fauconer might have been tryed had not Drury been restrained by me and layes it before the Reader as if his not being tryed that Sessions was the ground wherefore the passing of the Bill engrost was not prevented And before the next Sessions saith he the Bill of sale of the Lord Craven's Estate to be sold did pass For neither was Fauconer who must have pleaded to the Indictment ere a Tryal could have been summoned to appear nor was he in custody nor was there a certainty whether he might be found in that short space of time wherein Drury was detained which was but four dayes or had he been found summon'd or attach't could it be expected that in a case of such concernment to himself and the Common-wealth he should have Witnesses in so short a time ready the matter of Fact being done beyond the seas some years before where none but Enemies to the State were present who must be if any his Compurgators and the Parliament's adjudging of the Case having put by the expectation of any such Tryal or that the chief Justice Rolls would have bound him up peremptorily to have pleaded within that time and so consequently have constrained him to impossibilities he having so rational and just ground of Plea for a longer Nor had all these things concurr'd could it have been tryed that Sessions in regard the Indictment was wrong laid or if it had been tryed could it have done otherwise then miscarry for that the original deposition on which the Indictment was grounded and recited in hac Verba could not be found as is more at large argued in Cravens Case aforesaid pag. 31 32 33 34. which R. F. such is his fallacious manner of dealing where he cannot answer calls a company of blind supposals and childish arguings and bids me print it and saith hee 'l be my bondman if it any way help me nay if it doth not further discover my folly and that he would have wrote it but that he saith it is as long as impertinent and then saith This is enough Priest-like indeed But whether his saying so doth convict the thing or render me or him as deserving that which he casts on me and whether he be not my bondman let men of understanding upon perusing these passages and what is here asserted judge To the second I neither transmitted nor reported any of the informations in this affair to the Parliament nor was I so to do but to the Committee of the Council of State for examinations and discoveries who reported them to the Council of State and the Council to the Parliament unto which Committee I communicated the said examinations of Drury and Brisco as I had done the others but neither from them nor the Council received I any order to transmit them or not and so had nothing further lying upon me as my duty but to keep them safe with the rest of the things of that nature with which I was entrusted nor do J know of any reason wherefore the Council reported them not perhaps it was and it is very likely the reason because the Parliament took not the informations on which they grounded their first vote of confiscation again into consideration but notwithstanding the often and long debates afterwards during the space of full seventeen Months and what was offer'd urg'd and earnestly sought to be inforc't upon his behalf still saw cause to adher unto what they had at first voted and so the Council might judge the reporting of these needless especially being taken above a year after their first information as their dates make manifest But as for concealing these Examinations because they cleared his said Lord which the Narrator aforesaid pag. 44. and R F. pag 96 97 98 99 100. and to know the reason of me wherefore the Council of State reported them not Cravens Council so much insisted upon in prosecution of this question for that purpose in behalf of his Lord at

Judgement grounded upon those words nor on Fauconers single testimony therin but otherwise as aforesaid nor is there any ●eed at all of Faucon●●s testimony to prove that on which their vote and Judgement was so grounded And thus the Deceptio Visus Blind or Foggy Mist of Barbarous and Inhumane Rebbels Corruption Perjury c. raised to deceive the understandings of men into an apprehension as if there were never the like horrible injustice Indirect proceedings used and exercised being struck aside removed and dispel'd the true and substantial ground of the Parliaments Vote and Judgement is apparently to be seen and the reason of the justice to every sober understanding Thus much for the ground As for that which gave the Parliament occasion at first to take Cognisance of this matter and their particular Votes thereupon and the Appeale made in his behalfe from the Judgement and Jurisdiction of the Parliament to a forraigne power viz the States Generall of the Vnited Provinces instead of addressing himselfe to the Parliament in his defence and the particulars thereof and this whole businesse I refer the understanding Reader to the relation of them all at large in the Book aforesaid intitled the Lord Cravens case c. and to the answers of the objections raised therein on his behalfe and upon serious consideration of the whole let such judge Whether the manner of the Parliaments proceedings therein be not cleared as is the ground of their Judgement For though such an Appeal was made as I suppose never the like before was hard of Arraigning and charging the Justice of the Parliament in their proceedings on that cause and Judgement therein with oppression and injustice as grounded on proofe ridiculous and utterly false or if true yet frivolous and not applicable to the cause whereon the Judgement was given against him And in case that there had been proofe yet affirming that there is no Law in England to warrant such proceedings And so concludeing the Judgement to be unjust and void And demanding that the same be annulled cancelled and revoked that the Witnesses be as perjured calumn●ators and he put into the possession of his estate again alledging that he was a sworn servant to that State and therefore not to be condemned by the Parliament for his curtesie and duty as he calls it towards their Lord. And pressing them thereunto from their usuall goodness in upholding and assisting the oppressed and for the redress of their own honour and upholding of their power authority and prerogative c. And though the Laws of this nation are so severe and strict against such as make their Appeals to Forraigne Jurisdictions from the authority and Jurisdiction of their own Country viz. That such Incurre Premunire which is forfeiture of their Liberty and estates and all th●● have but life this crime being in effect a deniall of the supremacy of the Jurisdiction of their own Country and the Subordinateing and subjecting it in that particular to that State to whom the Appeale is made And though the Parliament had a full relation of the said Appeale from their * VV● have here with sent your Lordships an appeale in the behalfe of my Lord Craven from the justice of the Parliament of England unto the Assembly here which as the papers bea●● is intended to be d●livered to us and which whether it be or not we do intend to take a convenien● time to Vindicate the honor and power of the Parliament and shall do the same upon the other Paper herewith sent concerning the Queen of Bohemia whereby the King of Scotland is asserted likewise to be King of England c. S●y th● Ambasadors St. John and Strickland in their letter to the Council dated Hague May 30. 1651. Read 〈◊〉 Iune 6. 1651. In our Letter to the council you will see how the Prince El●ct●r and my Lord Craven have fallen upon the Parliament in a tender Point your Lordship will see all the p●rticulars and we shall in due time do our duty here to present it In my judgement the Elector and queen and Craven have given you a good ground to do more then you resolved to do Saith Ambassador Strickla●d in his Letter dated Hauge May extraordinary Ambasadors then in Holland by Letters dirceted to the Council of State and of the States generall taking Cognizance of the cause and assumeing Jurisdiction and authoritie judicially to proceed therein by receiveing all the Papers concerning the particulars aforesaid though for matters onely concerning the Common-Wealth of England and in behalfe of a person who was a Subject Native and Member thereof and causeing them to be Registred and permitting Witnesses to be produced and examined before them in his behalfe and in ordering their Commissioners appointed to Treate with the said Ambasadors to deliver the said Paper wherein amongst other particulars the then King of Scotes is affirmed to be King of Fngland in the name of the said States to the said Ambasadors c. And though the Parliament also received an account as aforesaid of their said Ambasadors high resentment of the said appeale and the reviveing and owning thereof by the States as absolutely Derogatory to the Undoubted interest Rights Power and Jurisdiction of the Parliament who have absolute power Jurisdiction and authority of it selfe without depending on any other State or Prince whatsoever c. And of the said Ambassadors answer thereunto sutable to their trust and the Independant Soveraingnty and honor of the Parliament of England who in so high a measure were reproached and slandered with the false-hoods and absurdities mentioned in those papers And of their Protestation therin against the matter of the said Papers and the States assumeing the Cognizance and Jurisdiction And of their Declaration that it did not in right or justice appertain to them to intermeddle therein c. And of their demands that the said papers and proceedings thereupon be cast out and the registers thereof vacated that nothing so Degrogatory to the honor and interest of the Common-Wealth of England might remain upon their Record to Posteritie or Note that might give ground to any subject or member thereof to seem to have cause to justifie any Treasonable practise against it though a sworn Servant to those States out of his duty to the said States or from any order of Note their ministers which he the said Lord Crav●n had done c. I say notwithstanding all these things and their knowledge of them yet the Parliament ordered and caused a Summons to be issued out Proclaimed and Printed July 3. 1651. for him to make his personal appearance before them on the third of September following whereby he had an oppertunity to alledge what he had to say in his own behalfe And although he neither made appearance at the said time limited in person it falling out to be the day on which th● King of Scots and his whole Army were routed at Worcester or by

and my Answer thereunto was this Viz. Whether J. N. and those with him as to his coming to The Throne of Truth c. Bristol and what was done to him by them and the people called QUAKERS were one This he affirmed and for this purpose published his Narrative Satan Title page former part c. Impostor p 24 Throne first ten pages and call'd it Quakerisme in its exaltation and concluded what he had said of the one upon the other This I denyed and proved by plain demonstration and full testimony of Truth which shall stand for ever That they were not one not led by one and the same spirit but seen to be gone forth and judged and denyed and the spirit that led them long before their coming thither and consequently That those people and the truth they witness were clear and unconcerned and that his Narrative and its Pag. 25. Title Design of it and End Foundation and Matter therein contained so far as it related unto them whom and their faith he had taken that occasion highly to charge revile and abuse was a Lye For the clearing of this being the Axis or that on which the weight of the whole did hang I expected when I heard of his Reply him to have spoken had he any thing to say but when I had view'd it round I found the field quitted and the Cause left me without an Engagement The next thing in dispute was his Narrative Whether it was a true Relation or not A true Narrative and Relation it is saith he in his Title-Page Satan Title-page Epistle and in his Epistle to the Reader he pledgeth for it his faithful Assurance in these words But this I can and do faithfully assure you That there is nothing here of the one or the other but what is real truth as will be made good upon any occasion Then which What higher Engagement can there be of honesty to induce a belief for which end it is held forth It is not so replyed I for the examination of one of Throne p. 29 30. them which gives the lye to his Conclusion upon the rehearsal of their Papers and Examinations he hath wholly left out Pag. 30. That Passage of the Examination of a second which checks the design and drift of his Relation he hath ommitted Pag. 28 29. The Examination of a third he hath affirmed to say and produced to prove contrary to his own Record of his said Examination that which it saith not Pag. 26 27. All the contents of a fourth Paper he hath neither repeated though short nor in the very words which clear the matter but makes up a pack of his own and then presents it as the language of the Paper to slander the innocent Pag. 27 28. A fifth Deposition he brings forth clipt of that clause which renders it false sworn Pa. 2 5 7 8. 9. And a sixth Letter wanting divers words and a material part of a sentence and in the close changed from its own into such an expression forged in and then pointed to with a marginal Note OBSE●VE as not onely quite altered the sense but rendred it very scandalous and the life of him liable to danger had it really been his whose was the subscription Pag. 25 31 32 Hereupon I concluded his Narrative a lye and him as a Narrator reprobate to faith and honesty Of this being the hinge on which turned the whole of his Reputation as on the other did the Cause I listened for a thorough Vindication could he have made it but throughout the whole Reply I could not hear a whisper of his said Engagement in his Epistle nor of the words Reprobate to faith and honesty Nor of his quotations of his own Pag 74. books which I had charged upon him to have made to belye one another and both to give himself the lye and to prove him a false Prophet in such a business of consequence as foreseeing and foretelling things to come of which he so highly vaunted No nor of nor to my demands viz. By what spirit didst thou foresee and foretel The infallib●e spirit thou hast not so thou hast confessed pag. 34. a●d the spirit of the Lord is infallible Is it not the Witch the fallible spirit that is out of the truth that hath divined seeing that spirit that doth foretell which is not the spirit of the Lord is such Then I considered him as to Religion and I found proving it upon him by plain Scripture That his share in a Pag. 61 62 63 70 71. Christianity he had renounc't That his b Pag. 61. hopes to be saved his c Pag. 65 66. happiness and way to true happiness was a lye and that his d Pag. 63 64 65. Ministers Ministry Word Churches Unity Orders Peace Civility good Manners all that Religion which he saith Apollion Abaddon the destroyer is tearing laying waste and confounding is the same for all that is confounding tearing and laying waste and he saith the e Satan Epist to the Reader destroyer is tearing laying wast confounding ministers ministry Word Churches Unity Order Peace Civility good Manners yea * O horrible blasphemy None but Christ Jesus is Truth it self and Truth it self saith this Priest Apollion c. is confounding Truth it self and all Religion is shaken all that is shaken is of things that are made and that they are shaken signifies the removing of those things that are shaken as of things that are made that those things which cannot be shaken may remain Heb. 12. 26 27. But of these slaine heapes upon heapes I finde no mention I also weighed his f Pag. 80. to pag 90. Profession his Coate and Craft and Generation his g Pag 80. Satan pag. 34. Argument in his Answer to his own objection formed against the friends of truth as Knaves Impostors and Deceivers and found it and them all too light and proved them turning his Argument on his own and the heads of his generation Knaves Inter alliis they are his own words Impostors Deceivers who say they are Ministers of the Gospel and yet pretend not to the infallible spirit which they had who were Ministers of the Gospel who affirm that their necessary deductions from the Scriptures are as true and certain as the Scriptures yea that they are Scripture and yet deny that they speak by inspiration by which all Scripture was given and as the holy men of God did who spake as they were moved of the Holy Ghost or that they have infallibility who declare that they deceive not the people in stretching beyond their line measure whereas in stretching beyond their line and measure in the line and measure of others is the whole of their Trade of Divination who confess that they may he deceived and may erre and say that they do not lyingly and hypocritically pretend to an infallibility and yet

undertake to lead people the right way to salvation the ground of whose Ministry is no other then according to practice to speak from the Scriptures We pretend to no other we preend not to infallibility saith R. F. in which Satan pag. 34. are found the Devils and false Prophets and the certainty of whose speaking according to the spirit is no other then their speaking according to the Scriptures whose dictates he saith they are of which they are no more sure then were the false prophets and devils aforesaid who spake the words of Scripture and from the Scriptures and according to the words of the Scriptures and yet were reproved by Christ and his Prophets and Apostles for so speaking for it is not the words that are said nor the actions that are done but the nature in which they are said and done and from whence they proceed that renders them good and accepted before the Lord and there are but two natures the Divine and that which is in the transgression but two principles the one of life the other of death as is the root of either so is that which proceedeth from it and he that ministers can minister no other then that principle from which he ministers nor to any other then to that which is of the same principle whether of death or of life And as for the Scriptures they are for the Man of God to be read to be believed to be fulfilled to be practised they are the things of God not to be made a trade of for so much a year or to be talked or spoken of from or by the wisdom of this world no not in the words which mans wisdom but which the Holy Ghost teacheth Here his lips are covered Many horrible blasphemies I charged him with against the Father Son and Holy Ghost Many notorious lyes slanders and false accusations many filthy scoffs and profane jeers yea of the spirit many grosse absurdities confusions and contradictions line against line page against page one part of his Book against the other slaying and confounding one another and he them and they the end and drift of his work of which he is silent The justification of the Doctrine and Principles of the people called Quakers and of Geo. Fox from his foul calumnies and aspersions he hath not inform'd nor hath he endeavoured to quit himself of the instances of blood-thirstiness charged by me on him and his Generation nor of the assertion viz. The dog it is that bites the Lamb doth never Nor hath he said a word of the great Tumult and Sedition of which I charged him to be the chief stirrer up and principal mover nor of many things more in all which should I be particular time would fail me being the contents of the greatest part of my answer and with what jugling lying and sophistication he hath replyed to the rest and how little to the purpose I shall dissect and plainly make manifest Now when as Reason would that of these things aforesaid and the residue of my answer he should have cleared himself or have been silent and so to have done had been somewhat becoming the seriousness of man instead thereof as one forlorn and desparate h● falls violently on my person pouring forth at it the evil treasures not only of his own but the venemous hearts of those generations of whom and their Treasons he appeares a Patron and Advocate who are and he with them become mine Enemies for having been instrumental in the discharge of my Trust to the detecting and preventing their secret plots and bloody conspiracies against the Common-wealth and Treasonable Adherencies to the chief and declared Enemies thereof in the day of its general designment and greatest conflicts not considering that amongst wise men Recrimination is alwayes accounted an indicament of a bad cause and instead of making good a general charge particularly to asperse and personally to reflect is a very foule blemish And here having gained the Cause I might withdraw my Pen and sit down in silence till R. F. shall have quitted himself an honest man in print and have taken off what is laid by me on him in that my Answer it being reasonable that he whose honesty as to a Narrator I have so highly impeach'd whose Narrative in the material parts thereof I have so fully answered whose Ministry and Religion I have so manifestly overturned whose share in Christianity himself hath so openly renounc't should so do before he gain credit unto what he hath now wrote or receive from me thereunto a Reply But forasmuch as the level of his and the poysoned Arrows of the generation aforesaid who shoot under his cover is laid at my Reputation as to matter of Fact and for that his and their entrance unto me is made thorough the Authority of Parliament their High Court of justice and the Cause of the Nation for which all the blood hath been spilt in the late Wars and in regard the Parliament as is said have appointed to hear the Case of him whose Cause is the principal pleading of this Impostor at their next Sessions And because after all the vomitings up of his venemous filth he saith in his last page And now from he●ceforth let none of these Quakers trouble me I have done with this gen●ration but if they will be troubling let them know that I will not be troubled And as for any further Answers R●plyes Contendings or Debatings with them or him I declare this as my Goronis my farewell to quakerism And so I may stay a long day e're I appear for clearing of my Innocency and the justice of the State Therefore I shall waving in this place all other particulars immediately descend to engage him and his Confederates in his and their Two great Battalions the sum and end of his Work and the strength of his mischief viz. The case of William L. Craven Christopher Love in reference to My Selfe * I mention myself first because I am accused it being convenient that I clear my own innocency before I appeare in the vindication of others The State To the first viz. Cravens Case Ralph Farmer in his Sathan Enthron'd having vilely traduc'd me in the business of this man I judg'd it necessary for the satisfaction of all such as neither desired nor delighted in the defamings of others to declare my innocency therein which I then did and do again in these words I do Throne p. 102. declare in the presence of the Lord before whom I fear who searcheth the heart and tryeth the reins and bringeth every work to judgement That I am clear and innocent therein nor have I used nor do I know of any indirect proceeding in that whole business of Craven and Fauconer At this my declaration he raves exceedingly and is greatly moved singling it out in the front and discharging against it the wrath and fury of the invenom'd body of that his Reply well knowing that if that stand

Petition so testified to the truth of his being seen to have subscribed it as might give the Parliament ground to take cognizance thereof for there came along with it so to witnesse and therefore the Parliament permitted it not to be read and if they had there was no other thing in excuse in that Petition but that he desired to be permitted to answer by his Friends and Council in regard the present conjunction of affairs there did not permit him to come in person yet they took not the advantage to make sale of his Lands till June 22. 1652. above nine months after his said limited day of appearance at which time and not before they voted his Name to be put in the Bill after the reading of his Petition then presented for his Lands to be sold the Rents and Profits being only received till then as is usual in Sequestrations And although until the said 22. of June there appeared nothing before them in defence and excuse of his not personal appearing then as aforesaid and in his Petition then read not a word thereof but to be heard by his Council Yet upon the Petition of his Friends they took his Case into debate again the day before the Act passed as a Law and on that very day as it passed as a Law viz. Aug. 4. 1652. they considered something that concerned the Entail of part of his Lands yea upon his own Petition Read Octob. 29. 1652. above two months after the Bil past engross'd and his Name therein as aforesaid they took in consideration his tender of a sum of money for the redemption of his Estate and debated twice thereupon But neither then nor at any time before during the space between the first Vote of Confiscation and the passing of the Bill which was full seventeen Months did they upon any debate take the said Vote into consideration again but notwithstanding the many great Debates Overtures and Influences in his behalf and the representation of Fauconers being convicted of Perjury as the last and great attempt did see cause to adhere still to the same and to rank his Name amongst other Delinquents mentioned in the said Act for his Lands to be sold Upon what weighty reasons and just grounds the understanding Reader may by this time plainly perceive through all the mysts that have been cast before it for whose right information in the truth of these things of which such a Dim is made in the World as well as for the vindication of mine own innocency and the proceedings and Justice of the State which R. F. in his Epistle to Craven tearms CLUB-LAW and saith it is the fortune of the Wars where many an honest man that stands by and means no harm gets a knock as well as those who began the quarrel I have been constrained to be thus particular Thus much as to CRAVEN Secondly for Christopher Love THE man is dead and in his ashes he hath answered long since the Justice of the State and before the Tribunal of him who hath with an outstretched arm delivered England from the Trayterous designs and Bloody Plots of him whilest alive and his Confederates Therefore I shall say little more then I am constrained to what is pretended to be by him charged on me before the time of his Execution choosing rather by silence to be exposed to the censure of some then by replying how manifest soever in my justification to seem to raise my defence upon the Grave of a dead man who whether he wrote so of me as is suggested I know not this I am sure of he cannot answer But of his Spirit alive in Ralph Farmer and the men of this generation and to the Treasons of him and his brethren and confederates whereof they were attained upon presumption of my having a hand in the discovery of which and bringing them to Justice he charges and seeks thereby to prove me not onely a blood-thirsty but a blood-sucking person I am constrained in my own and the vindidication of the State to speak and briefly to shew First in general What these Treasons are Secondly in particular how far they respect Christop Love First in general What these Treasons are No sooner was the breath out of the late Kings body but the men of this generation who before had strugled so much to break in pieces the Army and the honest interest wrapt up in it desperately engaged ENGLAND and IRELAND for that purpose began to entertain thoughts of setting up his Eldest Son King of ENGLAND in the subversion and overthrow of the Government of the Common-Wealth newly declared thereupon whether out of love and truth of heart to him and his party or to serve their own Domination and revenge I leave to him and his Friends to judge And the Scottish Nation having the same Game to play and not knowing how to effect it otherwise then by the discontented interests and influences of these men as an expedient or third party whom they had experienced well enough how to cajole engage under the pretence of a Kirk Covenant-interest acquaint them That they intended to apply themselves to the King in which application they would consider the Presbyterian party in England as themselves and that the Foundation of the Agreement should be the Covenant and desire a constant correspondency and good understanding between those here and them in Scotland This overture occasioned the first meeting of the men concern'd in the following Treasons at which the gracious disposition of the Prince was spoken of how that loyalty the sence of his suffering● engaged them to attempt somthing in his behalf if he would close with the Scots and take the covenant and this produced the first Treaty at the Hague That Treaty bringing forth nothing the King of Sc●ts sends to these men to procure another Treaty between the Scots and Him as the Scots had before for a Treaty with the King and assures them That if they could obtain it and the Scots to moderate their propositions he would give satisfaction to the Scots This they take into consideration and send to the Scots to make another application to the King and to moderate their propositions The Scots returned That they would make another application to the King but withall they said it should be upon the same Tearms for that the former breach at the Hague had occasioned rather the heightning of their Propositions then the moderating of them and desired them to make use of their interest with the King to give them satisfaction Hereupon these met considered of concluded and sent a Petition to the King for that purpose and Letters to the Queen Jerm●n and Percy to perswade the King to give the Scots satisfaction These re●urned That however things seemed to them yet the King was resolved to give the Scots satisfaction that to that end a Treaty was appointed at Jersey Percy advised them to send one from hence to the