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B00718 A conference of the Catholike and Protestante doctrine with the expresse words of Holie Scripture. Which is the second parte of the prudentiall balance of religion. : VVherein is clearely shewed, that in more than 260 points of controuersie, Catholicks agree with the Holie Scripture, both in words and sense: and Protestants disagree in both, and depraue both the sayings, words, and sense of Scripture. / Written first in Latin, but now augmented and translated into English.; Collatio doctrinae Catholicorum ac Protestantium cum expressis S. Scripturae verbis. English. 1631 Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1631 (1631) STC 22810; ESTC S123294 532,875 801

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1. verse 13. Thine eyes are cleane from seing euill and thou canst not looke towarde iniquitie CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Saint Thomas parte 1. Summae quaest 19. art 9. God will no waye the euill of sinne D. Stapleton lib. 11. de Iustificat c. 8 It is wholy repugnant to Gods nature to will sinne PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Caluin in c. 3. Gen. v. 1. 3. None of these things hinder but God would haue man to fall that God would haue man to fall for some certaine cause vnknowne to vs. And cont Franciscan libertin in opusculis page 441. We saye that the diuell and man both fell by the will of God vnknowne to vs. Beza in 2. par resp ad acta Colloquij Mōtis Belgartensis p. 177 saieth that our first parents fell indeed with the will and Man fall with the will of God decree of God Agayne I saied and do saye that it c●me not to passe but by the decree of God so willing that our first parents depriued themselues of their natiue goodnesse And l. de Praedest cōt Castell volum 1. Theol. p. 340. hauing obiected to him selfe that if the causes of damnation come with God his will then man were out of all fault and all the fault were in God he denieth the sequele and admitteth the antecedent and addeth that God decreeth and ordaineth the causes of damnation Peter Martyr in c. 9. Rom. p. 348. God is saied to hate sinne God willeth sinne for some other end He would haue Adam to fall He would haue Adam to sinne because he willeth it not for it selfe but for some other end And in locis classe 1. c. 14. p. 116. It cannot be doubted but that God would haue Adam to fall Zanchius l. 5. de natura Dei c. 2. Would not God haue Adam to sinne and vs all together with him to fall into this corruption by which it cometh to passe that we cannot but sinne vnlesse he helpe vs with his grace He would Agayne By this omnipotent will he would and ordained the sinne of Adam that in him all should sinne Piscator apud Vorstiū in Parasceue c. 3. Sinnes are done with Gods procuremēt and will that they should be done God will iniquitie God will haue iniquitie to be committed to be cōmitted albeit he do not delighte in it as a sick man will drinke a bitter potiō albeit he be not delighted with it Because God will declare his iustice and mercie therefore also he will that sinnes be cōmitted And apud eundē in Collat. sect 61. God will He will that sinne be done not onely that sinnes may be done but also will that they be done The same Piscator in Thesibus l. 2. p. 184 It is false and implieth contradiction that man fell not with Gods will but with He will sinne though he be no del●ghted with it his permission For if he permitted he also would not simply and of it selfe as if he were delighted with sinne but in some sorte and for some other thing Page 187. God can will some thing with which notwithstāding he is not delighted As for exāple he is not He willeth wickednes for some other end delighted with wickednes yet permitteth it and that willingly and therefore willeth it in some sorte and for some other end And p. 203. It is not ill doctrin to saye That Gods will is done euen by sinning that is euen sinnes are done by Gods will Bucanus in Institut Theol. loco 14. p. 145. Is God not willing God willeth sin with a hidden will iniquitie If you take it simply that God no way will it the scripture is against that Wherefore we must expound it so That God will it not with his allowing or reuealed or signified will but with his hidden or good pleasing will And the same hath Pareus lib. 2. de Amiss Gratiae c. 16. Melācthon in cap. 9. Rom. This is a misterie vnspeakable to God willeth sinne Would Adās fall Would Adās reuolt wit that God willeth sinnes and yet truely hateth them Perkins in Exposit Symbol tom 1. col 773. God would Adams fall for a good end Et de praedestinat col 128. We must say that God would haue Adams reuolt to come to passe And p. 129. Albeit God willeth not sinne simply and for it selfe yet he doth decree it and willeth it to come to passe See more of the like sayings of Protestants if you please in my Latin booke of this matter Chapter 1. Art 1. THE CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS OF THE HOLIE SCRIPTVRE OF CATHOLIKS AND OF PROTESTANTS The Scripture expressely saieth that God will not iniquitie or sinne nay that he cannot looke toward it The same saye Catholiks Protestants expressely say that God would haue Adam to sinne would haue his fall his reuolt that God willeth sinne willeth wickednes for some other end will haue iniquitie to be cōmitted though he delighte not in it as a sick man will drinke a bitter potiō though he take no delighte in it that the causes of damnation came with Gods will that he willeth sinne with a hidden and good pleasing will Which are as directly against the foresaied words of Scripture as any can be Nether will it auaile Ptotestants to saye as some times they doe that God willeth sinne as it is the occasion of some good to wit of manifesting his iustice in punishing it or his mercie in pardoning it Because in saying that God willeth sinne wickednesse iniquitie mans fall mans reuolt the causes of damnations as in plaine termes they doesaye they not onely affirme that God willeth the act in which iniquitie is but the very iniquitie malice or sinfulnes it self as is manifest both by the foresaied words as also because they some times teach as we shall see hereafter article 5. that sinne as it is sinne is preordinated of God And in saying that God willeth iniquitie or sinfulnes it selfe they directly contradict the aforecited words of holie Scripture For therein they meane that iniquitie or sinne is one of those things which are willed of God which the Scripture directly denieth Nether is this contradiction auoided by adding that though iniquitie be willed of God yet it is not willed of him for it selfe or as it is iniquitie but as it is an occasion of some good because still it is affirmed that iniquitie it selfe is one of the things which are willed of God as in their owne example True it is that a bitter potion is willed of the sicke though it be not willed of him for it selfe nor as it is bitter but as it is a meane to recouer health Wherefore in this matter we must distinguish twoe questions The one is simple or absolute to wit Whether God will iniquitie or sinne it selfe To which question the holie Scripture answereth negatiuely and the Protestants affirmatiuely The other is a redoubling question namely Whether God will iniquitie or sinne as it is iniquitie or sinne and
his idle permission The like he saieth de Praedestinat p. 727. And ibid. p. 726. Moises clearly affirmeth that hardnes of Pharao to haue Pharoes hardnes proper worke of God beene the worke of God Nether surely is Pharao his crueltie attributed here in any other sense vnto Gods counsell then otherwhere he is saied to giue fauour to his people in the sight of the. Egyptians And l. 3. Institut c. 23. § 1. Whence it followeth that the hidden counsell of God was the cause of this hardnes of harte Beza de Praedestinat cont Castell p. 400. Induration is the iust worke of God and the worke of Sathan Peter Martyr in lib. Iudic. c. 3. These kind of speeches plainly God worketh euerie way euill teach that God not onely by permitting but also by doing worketh euerie way euill in vs. Piscator apud Vorstium in Parasceue c. 3. c. in Amica Collat. sect 130. Because God procureth this manifestation of Procureth sinne it selfe of his iustice and mercie therefore also he procureth sinnes them selues God procured that Absalon rauished his father wiues Zanchius de Excaecat q. 1. to 7. col 204. It is certaine Author of induration that God as iust iudge was the chiefe Author of this induration See more of their like sayings in my Latin booke c. 1. art 4. THE CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely saieth that God will not doe iniquitie hath not done iniquitie that a good tree cannot yeeld euill fruits that who worketh who committeth sinne is of the diuell The same saye Catholiks Protestants expressely say that God worketh euill in vs and by vs punisheth his ill deeds in vs that Dauids adulterie was the proper worke of God and Iudas his treason was Gods worke as well as Pauls vocation that the euill of sinne is done by the effectuall working of God that God is the Author of Induration or hardnes of hart the cause of it that it is Gods worke that Pharaos crueltie against the Iewes is attributed to Gods counsell in the same sense that the Egyptians fauour towards them that God euery way worketh euill in vs that God it the Author of all those things which Catholike Cēsurers thinke to fall out by his permission that God procureth sinne it selfe Which sayings are so blasphemous as the holie fathers affirme that they make God to be no God and so Basil hom quod Deus nō sit causa mali contrarie to holie Scripture as the same Protestants confesse it See l. 2. c. 25. 30. ART III. WHETHER GOD OERDAINE SINNE to be done and predestinate men to sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Hieremie 19. v. 5. And they haue builtes the excelses of God ordaineth not sinne Baalim which I commanded not nor haue spaken of nether haue they ascended into my hart The same teacheth the Scripture where it denieth that God willeth sinne CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Councell of Trent Session 6. Can. 17. condemneth this doctrin The reprobats are predestinate to euill PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Perkins de Praedestinat to 1. col 127. We say that Adams God decreed mans fall fall came God not onely foreseing but also willing and decreing it In Serie causarum c. 52. It is wicked to say that God did onely forsee Adams fall but did not ordaine it by an eternall Ordained it decree In Apocal. 1. to 2. God decreed by a generall will that men should fall and sinne Willet in Synopsi Contr. 8. q. 3. p. 859. The fall of Adam was both foreseene of God decreed to be not permitted onely As Adams fall decreed as Christs death Christ his death was decreed and determined so was the fall of Adam For the end of Christs death was to restore Adams fall and if the end be decreed then those things also which are necessarily referred to that end Caluin 3. Institut c. 23. § 8. Adam fell because God iudged it so expedient Man falleth Gods prouidence ordayning so De Prouident p. 736. I acknowledge this to be my doctrin that Ordained of God Adam fell not by Gods permission onely but also by his hidden counsell Et p. 738. I confesse I wrote so Adams fall was ordayned by the secret decree of God De Praedestinar p. 704. Let our faith with seemlie sobernes adore a far of the hidden counsell of God wherwith the fall of men was preordinated Beza de Praedestinat cont Castell p. 340. How God is not in fault if he ordayne the causes of damnation we th●nke it a God ordeineth the causes of dānation question vnexplicable to mans sense Page 4 7. We acknowledge it to be true that God hath predestinated whomsoeuer he pleased not onely to damnation but also to the causes of damnation In Absters calum Heshusij p. 319. We say that Adam could not fall but through the decree and ordination of God We think that Adams fall was decreed of God Zanchius de Praedestinat c. 4. to 7. As well they which Men predestinate to blindnes are blinded are predestinated to blindnes as they which are deliuered from sinne are predestinated to deliuerie De Excaecat q. 5. It is cleare that God hath predestinated some to excecation Sinne euen considered as sinne as it serueth to the glorie of Sinne euen as sinne is preordeined of God God not of it nature but by Gods goodnes so far forth is sinne and the euill of sinne preordayned of God Which words also Polanus hath l. 4. Syntax Theol. c. 10. And the same Zanchius l. 5. de natura Dei c. 2. to 2. This was that which God first decreeth dānation and then sinne God first decreed of the reprobates from all eternitie to will the euerlasting ordayning of some men to perdition to this were their sinnes ordained and to their sinnes forsaking and deniall of grace Piscator apud Vorstium in Parasceue c. 3. All things Sinne done by a speciall decree of God are done by the decree of God euen sinnes themselues and that by an absolute and speciall decree c 6. God destinated all and euerie mā to sinne Et in Amica Collat. sect 58. God decreed absolutely and of him selfe that sinnes should be done The same Piscator in thesib l. 2. loco 12. Reprobation deniall of grace followeth this sinnes follow sinnes punishment followeth to all God preordayned the reprobate from all eternitie See more of their like sayings in the Latin booke c. 1. art 5. THE CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely denieth that sinne ascendeth to the hart of God or that God willeth it The same Catholiks Protestants expreslely affirme that God ordayned decreed determined Adams fall that Adam fell by Gods counsell and because he thought it expediēt through the decree and ordination of God that God ordaineth the causes of damnation praedestinateth to the causes of damnation whom he pleaseth praedestinateth as well to blindnes or excecation as to deliuerie from sinne preordayneth sinne
maintainers of the trueth These are such things as that now it may onely seeme to be wanting to set the Diuel himselfe in the throne of God and of trueth And Epist 16. What I Good counsell of Beza admonished before I admonish now in the Lord agayne and agayne to wit that at lest they would consider with themselues from whome and to whome are they gone For that I may imitate the words of S. Austin l. 2. cont Iulian. c. 10. Hath long time so confounded the highest with the lowest Shall light so be termed darkenesse and darkenesse light that Aërius Iouinian Vigilantius become to see and Austin Hierome Epiphanius be blinde But in some I thus argue in the 24. place whose doctrine in manie and greatest points is opposite to the expresse words of Scripture and besides as themselues confesse was condemned of the ancient Church and holie Fathers for heresie that is repugnant to the true sense of Scripture But such is the doctrine of Protestants Therefore c. CHAPTER XXV THAT PROTESTANTS THEMSELVES sometimes confesse that diuers of their opinions be blasphemous THE 25. argument wherewith we will proue that Protestants contradict the true sense of the Scripture shal be because it is so manifest that diuers of their doctrines which in the former booke I shewed to be opposite to the expresse words of Scripture are blasphemous as partely the very Authors of them partely other learned Protestants being compelled by their conscience and the euidencie of the matter doe confesse it Concerning God Protestāts teach that he willeth sinne Blasphemie that God willeth sinne as hath beene seene l. 1. c. 2. art 1. Which doctrine to be blasphemous thus confesseth Caluin in Resp ad Nebulon. p. 732. Was it a doubtfull blasphemie to make God the author of of sinne to will sinne to thrust to sinne Beza de Praed cōt Castel vol. 1. Theol. p. 372. Out of these things none of these blasphemies followeth to wit ether that God is the author of sinne or is delighted with sinne or also willeth sinne Et p. 397. It cānot be saied without blasphemie that God willeth iniustice Ib. l. Quest Resp p. 681. What then Shall we say that God willeth iniquitie God forbidde For this is the most horrible blasphemie of all Zanchius l. 3. de Nat. Dei c. 4. We should surely say that God is the cause and author of sinne if we should say that properly speaking he willeth sinne or would haue sinne to be done Hutterus in Analysi Cōf. Aug. p. 625. The blasphemie of Sacramentaries is execrable who are not ashamed to referre the most dolefull fall of our first parents and all that world of euils which thereō insued not in regard of the punishmēt but of the sinne vnto an absolute and eternall decree of God and to his effectuall working and immutable will Et p. seq But let heauē be astonished the elements amazed at such mostrous blasphemies whereof no pious man should suffer to heare the onely outward noise without shaking much lesse should assent vnto them in his heart And Ioannes Andrae in Colloquio Montisb p. 422. This assertion that man fell by Gods will is impious and horrible to heare and so contrarie to the expresse and reuealed word of God They teach also that God willeth sinne euen as it is That God willeth sinne as sinne sinne as hath beene shewed lib. 1. cap. art 2. But that this is blasphemous is acknowledged by Beza l. de Praedest p. 410. in the words If euer we had thought to speake or write that sinnes as sinnes proceed from the will of God we would confesse that we were worthie of all punishment Lobechius also Disp 21. This principle of Diuinitie is firmely to be held and to be beleiued with all our heart that God nether willeth nor commandeth ill deeds as they are such much lesse worketh or helpeth them or by an eternall decree doth destinate or secretly driue men to commit them They teach also that God worketh sinne and is the That God is cause of sinne cause and author of it as is to be seene l. 1. c. 2. art 4. And yet Caluin l. de Prouident p. 742. aliâs 736. confesseth that it is a monstrous blasphemie that wickednesse is done not onely by the will of God but also he being the author thereof And pag. 471. Thou wranglest with me as if I had saied that sinne is the iust worke of God which in all my writings I euer more detest Instruct contr Libertin cap. 14. God must denie himselfe and become a Deuil if he did worke euill which these men doe attribute vnto him The like he hath libr. de Praedestin pag. 711. And in Actor 2. ver 23. saieth I denie that God is the author of euill because in this word an euill affection is insinuated Beza in Absters Calumn Heshus pag. 316. calleth it blasphemie That God worketh the wickednesse of the wicked And de Praedest cont Castel p. 401. God forbidde that anie of ours should haue saied or written as thou auonchest that God ether giue or permit or worke an euill will or anie wicked or filthie desires when as euen our thoughts doe altogether abhorre from these kinde of blasphemies P. Mart. in locis classe 1. c. 14. If God wrought sinne he were a sinner Kemnice in locis part 1. tit de Causa Peccati All mens mynds and eares do so abhorre from that speach God is the cause of sinne that therefore the Maniches did feigne an other God Vrsin in Miscellan p. 72. Thou saiest that these are the speaches of manie of men God doth effectually worke in the reprobate that they sinne With all our heart we accurse this speach and doctrine Whitaker ad Rat. 9. Campia That is horrible Campian and not to be spoaken which thou saiest that anie should make God the Author of sinne He deserueth that God should streigth with a thunder boult cast him into the bottomlesse pit of hell Pareus in Colleg. Theol. 1. disput 2. The Fathers iustly condemned that impious doctrine of the Maniches and Libertins ascribing the cause of fall and sinne to God the Creator And Disput 3. God was not nor is not the efficient cause of sinne which heretofore was the blasphemie of the Maniches and now is of some Libertines They teach that God doth predestinate and ordaine That he predestinated men to sinne mē to sinne as is related l. 1. c. 2. art 5. Which to be blasphemous confesseth Vorstius in Amica Collat. sect 89. in the words which doctrine that God doth destinate men to sinne I scarce beleiue that thy selfe wilt thinke to be voide of blasphemie if thou doest well consider it Hutter in Anal. Confes August c. 9. The troupe of Sacramentaries Beza Caluin Renecher doth not feare to write with a most execrable and most wonderfull blasphemie that some are fatally and absolutely destinated not onely to their last end to wit damnation but also to the
do not pacifie his wrath but prouoke it See more art 16. Scripture This is the will of God your Sanctification that you abstaine from fornication c. Protestants God testifieth that he will not that his commādments be kept will he haue the promises of the law performed of vs Nothing lesse He commandeth some thing which he will not haue done Properly speaking God will not haue his commandments kept of vs. See art 17. Scripture God hath concluded all into incredulitie that he God hath mercie on all may haue mercie on all Protestants God hath concluded all the reprobats vnder He hath not mercie on all sin that he might iustly destroy them God nether would nor will haue mercie on all See art 18. Scripture Thou louest all thinges that are and hatest nothing God loueth all of that which thou hast made Protestants God cannot be saied to loue all Albeit he created He loueth not all all in Adam yet be loueth not all God loueth only the elect in Christ all the rest he iustly hated from all eternitie and will for euer hate See more art 18. Scripture God will all men to be saued Not willing that anie God will all to be saued perish Protestants God will not haue all saued not euerie one He will not all to be saued saued It is not true that God would haue all saued by Christ God will not haue those that are reprobates to be saued See more art 19. Scripture Liue I saieth our lord God I will not the death of God will not the death of a sinner He will the death of a sinner the impious but that he be conuerted and liue Protestants God willeth the death of a sinner with his vnsearchable will God createth some to death to perish to destruction God predestinated to death whome he would and because he would See art 22. Scripture God made not death God made not death He made death Protestants God is the Author of death Gods will is the first and vnauoidable cause of the perdition of them that perish The hidden will of God worketh death in all See more art 22. cit Scripture Impious men are not necessarie for him God needeth not the impious He needeth them God dāneth men for sin He damneth not them for sin God can de all things He cannot doe all things Protestants It is false that God hath not need of a sinner See art 22. cit Scripture Get ye away from me you accursed into fire euerlasting for I was an hungred and you gaue me not to eate Protestants God for his mere will damneth men He damneth them that deserue not There is no other cause of mans damnation then Gods mere pleasure See art 23. Scripture VVith God all thinges are possible Protestants That saying All things are possible to God hath some exception God hath no absolute power See more art 24. CHAPTER III. OF CHRIST SCripture Who Christ was predestinate the Sonne of God Christ predestinate the Sōne of God Not predestinate Christ made lawes He made none in power Protestants That Christ was predestinate the Sonne of God is Arianisme See art 2. Scripture Teach them to obserue all things whatsoeuer I haue commanded you Protestants Christ is no lawmaker no lawgiuer who gaue anie new law to the world See art 7. Scripture Beare ye one an others burdens and so ye shall fulfill Christs Ghospell a law the law of Christ Protestants The Ghospell must not be called a new law Art No law 7. cit Scripture And he hath giuen him power to doe iudgment Christ a iudge because he is the Sonne of man Protestants Christ is not iudge He shall not exercise the last No iudge iudgment as man See art 8. Scripture For these are the twoe testaments Twoe testaments Protestants There are not twoe testaments See art 9. Not twoe Christ learnt nothing Scripture How doth this man know letters whereas he hath not learned Protestants Christ was so ignorant as he learnt and was He laernt taught as men are See art 10. Scripture It was seemly that we should haue such a high preist Christ no sinner holie innocent impolluted separated from sinners VVho did not sin Protestants Christ was a sinner and that truly we must not He was a sinner imagin Christ to be innocent He confesseth his delicatenes ouerwhelmed with desperation he gaue ouer calling vpon God He needed baptisme See art 11. Scripture This is my beloued sonne in whome I am well pleased Christ beloued of God Protestants God made Christ by imputation a sinner or Hatefull of God vniust guiltie hatefull to God See art 11. cit Scripture This commandment of giuing my life I receaued Christ commanded to die Not commāded He sufficiently redeemed Not sufficiētly of my Father Protestants They say A law was made that Christ should die But this is against Scripture See art 14. Scripture The Sonne of man is come to giue his life a redemtion in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for manie Protestants They erre saying that Christs death was a sufficiēt redemption 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for the sinnes of all Christ died not sufficiently for all See art 16. Scripture He hath reconciled in the bodie of his flesh by He redeemed vs by death death Pacifiing by the blood of his crosse Protestants Nothing had beene done if Christ had suffered Not by death only corporall death Reason it selfe teacheth that only corporall death of Christ was not sufficient to redeeme them who had deserued death both of bodie and soule Se more art 17. Scripture Christ did die for the impious They denie him Christ died for the impious and damned Not for them that bought them the lord bringing vpon them selues speedie perdition Protestants Christ did not giue him self for the impious and reprobates He shed not his blood for the sinnes of the impious damned See more art 18. Scripture who is the Sauiour of all men especially of the Sauiour of all faithfull VVho gaue him selfe a redemption for all Protestants It is not Christ the Redeemer of all No. Christ Not Sauiour of all is the Redeemer only of the elect and of none els See more art 18. and 19. Scripture He is the propitiation of our sinnes and not of our Propitiation for the sins of the world Not for the sins of the world His soule went to hel Not to hel Entred the dores being s●ut Not being shut sinnes onely but also for the whole worlde Protestants They speake amisse who say that by Christs death the sinnes of the whole world were redeemed See art 19. cit Scripture Thou shalt not leaue my soule in hel Protestants Christs soule neuer went to the places of hel Christs soule did not descend to hel See art 21. Scripture Iesus cometh the dores being shut and stood in the midst Protestants Christ by his diuine
because you haue loued me Protestants The obedience which the faithfull giue to him is not so much a cause why he continueth his loue towards them as an effect of his loue See art 17. Scripture When you shall haue done all things that are commanded We ought to doe good workes you say we are vnprofitable seruants we haue done that which we ought to doe Protestants Thou owest nothing to God but faith This phrase We ought not of the law A faithfull man ought to doe good workes belongeth not to Christians See more art 18. Scripture I haue inclined my hart to do thy iustification for We may doe good for reward We may not euer for reward Protestants If thou pray fast c. Beware thou doest it not for that end that thou maiest reape anie temporall or eternall profit See more art 19. CHAPTER XV. OF GOOD VVORKES IN PARTICVLER SCripture I say to the vnmaried and to widous It is good for It is good not to marrie them if they so abide Protestants It is not good for a man to be single for it is not It is not good pleasant not honest nor profitable See more art 1. Single life couns●lled No● counselled Scripture Art thou loose from a wife Seek not a wife Protestants Paule will haue vniuersally all to be married God pronounceth the sentence that he will haue none to be vnmarried See more art 4. Scripture He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Virginitie is a vertue well and he that ioyneth not doth better Protestants Virginitie is no vertue but a thing indifferent Not a vertue We thinke that virginitie is nothing See more articul 2. Scripture He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Virginitie better then marriage Not better well and he that ioyneth not doth better Protestants Single life in it selfe is much more baser then marriage To beget children is the cheefest worke after preaching See more art 3. Scripture Who departed not from the temple by fastings and Fasting seruice of God praiers seruing night and daye Protestants Fasting of it selfe is an indifferent thing It is a No seruice of God naughtie superstition to thinke that fasting is a parte of Gods seruice See more art 5. Scripture This kinde of Diuels is not cast out but by Fasting driveth away Diuels It driueth thē not praier and fasting Protestants The ridiculous Papists make fasting an antidote to driue away Diuels See art 6. Scripture I Daniell mourned the dayes of three weeks desiderable Choice of meats good bread I did not eate and flesh and wine entred not into my mouth Protestants We hould this distinction of meats to be foolish Not good and wicked Choice of meates vpon certaine dayes S. Paule attributeth to the doctrin of Diuels See more art 7. Scripture I desire that praiers be made for all men Praier to be made for all Not for all Protestants Nether must we pray for euerie one We must not make praiers for the sinnes of the reprobates See more artic 8. Scripture It is a holie cogitation to pray for the dead that Good to pray for the dead they my be loosed from sinnes Protestants We detest praiers for the dead That forme of Not good praier God giue the dead a happie resurrection is to be reiected Praier in an vnknowne language good See more art 9. Scripture saieth of one praying in the Church in an vnknowne tongue Indeed thou giuest thankes well Protestants We detest praiers in an vnknowne tongue It is Not good repugnant to Scripture and contrarie to sense of nature See more art 12. Scripture Vow ye and render to our Lord your God Vowes good Not good Protestants Vowes are against the ordinance of God vowes do not become Christians See more art 14. Scripture If thou will be perfect goe sell all thou hast Forsaking of riches counselled Not counselled and giue to the poore and thou shalt haue treasure in heauen Protestants The forsaking of goods hath no commandment nor counsell in Scripture See more art 16. Scripture Almes deliuereth from all sinne and from Almes deliuereth from death Not from death Penall workes a parte of pennance No parte of pennance death Protestants Almes deliuereth not from temporall death nor from eternall death See more art 15. Scripture If in Tyre and Sidon had beene wrought the miracles that haue bene wrought in you they had done pennance in hairecloth and ashes Protestants Ashes sackcloth was no parte of pennance Sackcloth and ashes are only an externall signe of pennance See more art 18. Scripture The child grew and was strengthned in spirit Eremiticall life good and was in the deserts vntill the daye of his manifestation in Israel Protestants Eremiticall life is clownish sauage and farre Not good from ciuilitie See more art 20. Scripture God saw their Niniuites workes that they were The Niniuites pēnance true Not true conuerted from their euill way c. Protestants The pennance of the Niniuites was not true pennance See more art 19. CHAPTER XVI OF SINNE SCripture He that committeth sinne is of the Diuell Great sinners are of the Diuell Not all Protestants Nether the faithfull who sinne by chance or of them selues by weaknes but such as giue them selues to sinne serue the Diuell and ought to be called Sonnes of the Diuell See more art Scripture You are euacuated from Christ that are iustified Sinne putteth out of grace in the law you are fallen from grace Protestants Not anie enormious sinne obscureth grace much It putteth not lesse extinguisheth it The faithfull sinne but fall not from grace See more art 6. No murderer hath life Some murderer hath Iustice standeth not with sinne It standeth with sinne Sinne to be redeemed with almes Not to be redeemed with almes Sin purged by workes Not purged by them Great sinne seperateth from God Seperateth not Sinne cause of damnatiō Scripture No murderer hath life euerlasting abiding in him selfe Protestants Dauid a murderer was not yet quite spoiled of spirituall life not yet depriued of iustification See more art 6. cit Scripture What participation hath iustice with iniquitie Protestants Sinne dwelleth together with iustice in vs. A worke is partly good partly euill See more art 7. Scripture Redeeme thou thy sinnes with almes Protestants Should not Christ haue died in vaine for sinnes if sinnes could be redeemed with almes See more art 8. Scripture By mercie and faith sinnes are purged Protestants If purging of sinnes be giuen to mens workes then is Christ dead in vaine See art 8. cit Scripture Nether fornicatours nor adulterers shall possesse the kingdome of God Protestants Sinne shall not drawe vs from Christ though we commit fornication or murder a thousand times a daye See more art 9. Scripture Departe from me ye accursed into euerlasting fire for I was an hungred and you gaue me not to eate Protestants Those
that are adiudged to eternall punishment Not cause of damnation are not therefore damned because they sinned Onely incredulitie damneth See more art 10. Scripture Euerie one of vs for him selfe shall render account Account is to be giuen of sinnes to God That euerie one may receaue the proper things of the bodie as he hath done ether good or euill Protestants If workes come into iudgment we are all damned Not to be giuen These sinnes shall not come to account before God See more art 11. Scripture reporteth that Dauid saied of him selfe I haue Dauid did ill done ill before thee Protestants Dauid neuer committed sinne The regenerate He did not ill commit noe sinne See more art 12. Scripture reporteth these words of Dauid I am he that Dauid him selfe sinned haue sinned I haue done wickedly Protestants The elect him selfe doth not sinne but sinne that Not him self dwelleth in him The true faithfull or regenerate doth not sinne See more art 13. CHAPTER XVII OF IVSTIFICATION SCripture Abraham was he not iustified by workes Abraham iustified by workes Not by workes Man iustified by workes Not by workes Sinnes forgiuē for loue Not for loue Protestants Abraham was not iustified by his good workes He was iustified by no other thing at all but by faith See art 1. Scripture Doe you see that by workes a man is iustified Protestants We saye they are not iustified by workes we can not be iustified by workes See art 1. cit Scripture Manie sinnes are forgiuen her because she loued much Protestants Not because the woman loued much therefore her sinnes were forgiuen her See art 1. cit Scripture By workes a man is iustified and not by faith Man not iustified by faith onely By faith onely Some iust before God None iust before God onely Protestants We are iustified by faith onely By faith onely we receaue remission of sinnes See more art 2. Scripture They were both iust before God Protestants Before God none is iust none can be iust Where shall anie such iust be found amongst men See more artic 3. Scripture You are cleane The blood of Christ cleanseth vs Some cleane from all sinne Protestants The beleiuers are iust and yet vncleane The None cleane pious man is in him selfe vncleane and filthie See more art 4. Scripture As farre as the East is from the west hath he made Sinnes taken from the iustified Not taken frō them our iniquities farre from vs. There is no iniquitie found in me Protestants In the regenerate there are manie sinnes and great filth Innumerable sinnes euen such as are worthie of death remaine in the regenerate See more art 5. Scripture Before him God iustice hath bene found in me Iustice in mē No iustice in them Protestants There can be no iustice in vs. There is no inherent iustice in the iudgment of God See more 8. Scripture To him that beleiueth in him who iustifieth the Some inherēt thing imputed No inherent thing imputed Men not certaine of grace Certaine impious his faith is reputed to iustice Protestants What is inherent is not imputed See more art 9. Scripture Man knoweth not whether he be worthie of loue or hatred Protestants It is lewednes to say that none can know by certaintie of faith that he hath obtained grace See more artic 10. Scripture Ye are fallen from grace Some fall frō grace None fall frō grace Protestants It is impossible for those that beleiue to fall from grace The elect neuer fall from grace The faithfull neuer fall from the grace of God See more art 12. Scripture Thou by faith doest stand Be not highly wise but VVe must feare feare Protestants That is not to be suffered that they exhort vs VVe must not feare to feare I cannot be damned vnlesse Christ be damned See more art 13. Scripture If the iust man shall turne away him selfe from his Some reprobates iustified Noreprobates iustified Man prepareth his hart He prepareth it not iustice and doe iniquitie in his sinne which he hath sinned in them he shall dye Protestants No reprobate is iustified The elect only repent and doe good workes See more art 14. Scripture It perteineth to a man to prepare the harte Protestants In our conuersion to God we haue our selues wholy passiuely A man is like a blocke in his conuersion See more art 15. CHAPTER XVIII OF EVERLASTING LIFE AND DEATH SCripture Your reward is very great in heauen You shall receaue Saluation a reward or retribution No reward or retribution There is a crowne of iustice No crowne of iustice Faith alone saueth not It saueth Some already suffer the paines of hell None yet suffer the paines of hell Hell a place of torments No place the retribution of inheritance Protestants That he saueth is mere grace not a reward or retribution See more art 1. Scripture There is laied vp for me a crowne of iustice Protestants Paule acknowledgeth nothing in the whole course of saluation but mere grace See more art 2. Scripture Shall faith be able to saue him Protestants Faith alone saueth By faith alone we are saued See more art 3. Scripture As Sodome and Gomorrha and the citties adioyning in like manner hauing fornicated c. were made an example sustaining the paine of eternall fire Protestants It is a false position that the soules suffer in hell before the bodies See more art 6. Scripture Lest they also come into this place of torments Protestants We must not imagin that hell is anie certaine definite and corporall place A locall hell is a fiction See more art 7. Scripture Departe from me ye cursed into fire euerlasting Hell fire true fire Protestants They feigne that the soules of men and diuels Not true fire are tormented in hell with true and corporall fire See more artic 8. CHAPTER XIX OF GODS LAW SCripture My yoke is sweet and my burden light Gods law possible Not possible Some haue kept Gods law None haue kept it Some haue loued God with all their hart None haue loued him so Gods law in the harts of some In the harts of none We pray to fulfill Gods will We pray not so Keeping the cōmandments necessarie to life Not necessarie Protestants The law is impossible to be kept It is impossible to keepe the commandments See more art 1. Scripture I haue kept thy law They haue kept thy word Protestants No man performeth the law or euer performed it See more art 2. Scripture faieth of Iosias He returned to our lord in all his hart and in all his soule and in all his power according to all the law of Moises Protestants There was no Sainte who in this mortall life loued God with all is soule with all his hart with all his power See more art 3. Scripture The law of God in his hart Protestants Euen after regeneration the word of the law is not properly saied to be in
whomsoeuer you shall finde call to the mariage Mark 16. vers 15. Going into the whole world preach the Ghospell to all creatures CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin de Amiss Grat. c. l. 2. 9. The Scripture teacheth that God inuiteth all to him PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Casibus conscient cap. 7. It is euident that the promise of saluation is not to be taken as vniuersall without exception or restriction God inuiteth not all Beza de Praedestinat cont Castel p. 417. Christ doth not inuite simply all vnto him Et in quaest Respons p. 655. See with how conuincent reason that vniuersall vocation is refuted Vocation is not vniuersall Wherefore not vocation much lesse that vniuersall election can and must be assigned but onely an indefinite vocation Zanchius in Supplicat ad Senatum Argent to 7. col 57. That God in earnest calleth all is to be vnderstood according to his reuealed will to wit so farre as he calleth all by the outward preaching of the Ghospell not excluding any but not according to his secret will In depuls calum col 260. The promises Promises pertaine not to all do not pertaine indeed vnto all but onely to the elect And col 261. There is an other reason why God doth not giue them reprobates faith nor euer simply promised it to them Bucanus in Institut loco 36. Is not the vocation and remission Not remissiō vniuersall Mathew 11. 28 It is rather indefinite Vrsinus in Miscellan p. 74. If the vniuersall promise belonged to all men what a masse of absurditie and impietie would follow Pareus in Galat. 3. lect 43. The promises are vniuersall to the beleiuers but not vniuersall to the incredulous for they belonge not to them Therefore it sufficeth not to vrge the vniueruersall articles All Of all Stosselius apud Zanchium l. 2. epistolorum The Ghospell Nor the Ghospell belongeth onely to the elect THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ called all that are burdered and commanded to preach to all creatures The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Gods vocation is not vniuersall that God in earnest calleth not all that the promise of saluation is not vniuersall parteineth onely to the elect that the Ghospell belongeth onely to the elect Which are so opposite to the Scripture as diuers Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XXII WHETHER GOD OF HIM selfe will the death and damnation of men SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Ezechielis 33. v. 11. Liue I saieth our Lord God I will not the death of the impious but that the impious be conuerted from God willeth not death his way and liue c. 18. v. 23. Why is the death of a sinner my will saieth our Lord God and not that he conuert from his wayes and liue Et ver 32. Because I vill not the death of him that dieth saieth our Lord. He made not death Wisdome c. 1. v. 13. God made not death nether doth he reioice in the perdition of the liuing Tobie 3. 22. For thou art not delighted in our perditions Ecclesiast 15. vers 11. Impious men are not necessarie for him CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Gard. Bellarmin l. 2. de Grat. lib. arb c. 16. The sinnes of men and not the onely will of God are the cause of positiue reprobation that is of that act wherewith God will adiudge reprotes to euerlasting punishment PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Conc. vlt. p. 693. God predestinated to eternall God predestinateth to death whome and why he would Sinne not the cause of damnation God worketh and willeth death death whome he would and because he would Pag. 694. The onely cause of reprobation whereof we speake is Gods will mynd and decree Perkins de Praedestinat to 1. col 123. Sinne is not the cause of the decree of damnation See Willet cont 18. q. 1. p. 855. Luther l. de seru arbit to 2. fol. 450. The hidden God worketh life death and all in all Agayne He will not the death of a sinner to wit in word but he willeth it with his vnsearchable will Caluin 3. Institut c. 22. § vlt. If we cannot giue a reason No reason of reprobation but Gods will Some created todamnation and to perish why God vouchsafeth mercie to his elect but because it so pleaseth him nether shall we haue any other thing why he reprobateth others them his will Cap. 21. § 5. To some eternall life is preordinated to others eternall damnation Therefore as euerie one is created to ether end c. In Roman 9. ver 18. Salomon teacheth shat the wicked were of purpose created for to perish Beza in Rom. 9. v. 11. Who gather that God in those whom from all eternitie he destinated to reprobation and perdition was moued thereto by their foreseene incredulitie ill life are greatly deceaued In Explicat Christianismi cap. 5. Reprobates he created to the end that he might be glorified in their iust condemnation In Colloq Montisbel p. 447. He created ordained and destinated the reprobates to eternall damnation for causes knowne to him selfe alone And de Praedestinat vol. 3. p. 438. God of his mere will and therefore not for any respect of foreseene worthines or vnworthines hath destinated to hatred and perdition whome he would ether particular men or whole nations And this doctrin he termeth the foundation of his faith Bucer in Matth. 6. What he saieth that he will not the death of the impious and of him that dieth but would rather haue him returne and liue is to be vnderstood of them onely whome he hath chosen to be conuerted and liue Peter Martyr in Rom. 9. It lesse despleaseth men if they be God hateth and reprobateth for his mere will saied to be predestinated and chosen then to be saied to be hated and reprobated for Gods mere will without all respect of deserts and yet there must be the same reason of both Et libr. de libro arbit tom 3. locorum It seemeth at first sight absurd that some should be created of God for to perish yet the Scripture Some created to perish Gods will the only cause of reprobation saieth it Musculus in locis tit de reprobis The cause of reprobation is not to be attributed to the future wickednes of the reprobates but to the onely will of God Piscator in Thesibus lib. 2. p. 182. God made man to fall It He made men to fall is false that God hath not need of a sinner Page 235. Nether is this simply true that God is not the beginning or cause of perdition P. 245. Reprobation is absolute that is depending of the mere pleasure of God and not vpon the condition of incredulitie foreseene Marlorat in Rom. 9. v. 22. What inconuenience is it to say Some made to destructiō that these were made to destruction Zanchius de Praedestinat c. 1. to 7. They take from God his Some created to
death to be destroied right who say that it is false that God created some to life others to death onely that he might shew his mercie in them and his power and iustice in these cap. 4. He createth some to this end to be destroied c. 6. That one is saued or damned we must needes confesse that Gods will was and is the cheefest Et apud Schusselburg l. 4. Theol. Caluin art 8. Gods will is the first and vnauoidable Gods will the first cause of perdition cause of the perdition of them that perish And l. 3. de natura Dei c. 4. q. 4. As for that place of wisdome Death entred into the world by the enuie of the Diuel and if there be any such others in which death is attributed to the Diuel as to the Author we answere that it doth not follow that God willeth God author of death not death or is not the author of it For the same effect may proceed from diuers causes Bucanus l. 4. Syntagm c. 10. The cause efficient and mouing for which the decree of affirmatiue or negatiue reprobation was made of God is not sinne The true and onely mouing cause for which the decree of reprobation was made is Gods pleasure or free will See manie more like sayings of Protestants in my Latin booke l. 1. art 22. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God of him selfe will not the death of the impious or of him that dieth yea God sweareth that he will not his death and the Scripture addeth that God made not death that it entred by the Diuel that impious men are not necessarie for God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say the contrarie that God will the death of a sinner with his vnsearchable will that he is the Author of death that he created men to perdition death and damnation that he is the beginning the first vnauoidable cause of the perdition of them that perish That he predestinateth to death whome he would and why he would that sinne is not the cause of the decree of damnation That sinne is nether efficient nor mouing cause of negatiue or affirmatiue reprobation but onely the pleasure and free will of God ART XXIII WHETHER GOD DAMNETH men for sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matth. 25. v. 41. Then he shall saye to them also that be at God damneth for sinne his left hand Get ye away frō me you cursed into fire euerlasting For I was an hungred and you gaue me not to eate c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarmin l. 2. de Grat. lib. arb c. 16. The Scriptures euerie where teach that by the iust iudgment of God euerlasting punishment is rendred vnto sinne PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther l. de seru arb tom 2. fol. 461. This most of all offendeth God damneth men for his mere will Respecteth not deserts in those that are to be damned Damneth those that deserue not common sense or naturall reason that God for his mere will doth forsake harden and damne men Fol. 465. Let vs I pray you feigne that God must be such a one as respecteth deserts in them who are to be damned Shall we not in like manner auouch and graunt that he respecteth deserts in them who are to be saued And fol. 466. It is now incomprehensible how it is iust that he damneth them that deserue not and yet is beleeued Zanchius apud Schusselburg l. 4. Theol. Caluin art 8. Here we saye that there is no other cause of mens damnation thē Gods mere pleasure Rennecber 16. The cause of damnation or reprobation is not to be saught in men but Gods will is the cheefest and supreme cause thereof Also Gryneus 16. Sinnes are Sinne not the cause of damnation not the cause why men are damned And Spindlerus 16. Sinne can no way be the cause why men are damned THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that men are damned and adiudged to hell fire for sinne The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say the contrarie that sinnes are not the cause why men are damned that can no way be the cause why men are damned that there is no other cause of mens damnation then Gods mere pleasure that God damneth those who deserue it not that he respecteth not deserts in those that he damneth that he damneth men for his mere will And thus much of Gods inward and outward acts toward sinne good works and mankinde let vs now see something of his power ART XXIV WHETHER GOD BE ALmightie and can doe all things SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Genes 17. v. 1. Our Lord appeared vnto him and saied vnto God is almightie him I am the God almightie Iob. 42. v. 2. I know thou canst doe all things Mathew 19. v. 26. With God all things are possible The same is repeated Marke 10. and 14. Luke 1. vers 36. There shall not be impossible with God any word CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin l. 3. de Euchar. c. 2. All diuines write that Gods power is not absolute God is saied to be almightie because he can do all that implieth not contradiction SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Caluin in Resp ad Nebulon. p. 730. Caluin euerie where earnestly reiecteth that deuise of Gods absolute power which the Sophisters prate of in their scholes Which he repeateth de Praedest 728. de Prouid 755. 1. Inst c. 17. § 2. l. 3. c. 23. § 2. in c. 25. Isaiae Beza cont Heshusium vol. 1. p. 299. That saying of thine All thinges are possible to God hath some exception P. 300. You forsouth shall teach vs that Gods omnipotencie must not Gods omnipotencie limited Some things impossible to God be tied to that order which willingly he hath appointed to him selfe And pag. 302. He saieth that God can no more put Christs bodie in two places at once then he can make new Gods In Colloq Montisbel p. 27. God cannot make that Christs bodie be substantially in many places at one time Lib. quaest vol. 1. p. 658 God cannot make that one and the same bodie be substantially in many places or in any place not coextended to the place Which also he repeateth Respons ad Acta Torgens vol. 3. p. 60. Peter Martyr Respons ad Gardiner obiect 11. We complaine that you alwaies obiect Gods power whereas this Christs To which Gods power doth not extend Gods omnipotencie not without exception Beareth not some things bodie to be at once in manie places is of that kinde of things to which Gods power doth not extend And lib. 1. Epistolarum Zanchij pag. 408. We warne the godlie that Gods omnipotencie which we beleiue is not to be beleiued without all exception Sadeel ad art 14. aburat We haue shewed that Christs bodie cannot be really present in many places at once and that Gods omnipotencie cannot beare this And yet these men say that their faith can make present things that are to come absent and farthest of as
Children in state of saluation of infidels I leaue to the iudgment of the almightie and iust albeit I can finde no cause of damnation in them De Peccato orig f. 119. Of Christians children we are sure that they are not dāned for originall sinne albeit to cōfesse plainely that opinion seemeth more probable to vs which we taught to wit that we must not rashly condemne the children of Heathens In Elencho fol. 36. We impiously condemne not onely children of Heathens but also of Christians And de Ratione fidei fol. 540. We rashly condemne the children of Christiā parents yea of Heathen parentes Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 542. In this point the Protestāts do not wholy agree but ether say that all children whatsoeuer are through Christs grace saued as Zuinglius and manie more or at least all elect children whether they be borne of faithfull or other parents though not baptized are saued as the most Protestants say And he addeth These mens opinion is much more secure but the sentence of the former is more gentle and probable enough and therefore not roshly to be condemned Hermingius in Enchiridio class 3. p. 322. If the children of Infidels die without baptisme we must leaue them to Gods iudgment The same also followeth out of that which Caluin loco cit Beza ad reprehens Castel vol. 1. p. 502. and others say that childrē of faithfull parents are sanctified and comprehended in the couenant of life vnto the thousand generation THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the children of the faithfull are by nature or natiuitie the children of wrath as others are that death passed vnto all that condemnation passed vnto all The like say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christian children are sonnes of God before they be christened that they are borne Saints that originall sinne is not imputed to them that they are holie within the Church and bodie of Christ before they be baptized Saints by supernaturall grace members of Christe from the wombe borne children of the Church and from the wombe Saints before God Likewise they say of Infidels children that they finde no cause of condemnation in them that they are rashly and impiously condemned that all children whosoeuer or at least all elect children though not baptized are saued that such as come of faithfull though after a thousand generations are sanctified and comprehended within the couenant of life Which are so contrarie to Scripture as sometimes Protestants confesse it l. 2. c. 30. and S. Austin saieth L. 3. de Anima c. 9. Do not beleiue do not say do not teach that infants dying before they be baptized may attaine remission of originall sinne if thou wilt be a Catholik ART X. WHETHER THE BAPTISME of S. Ihon and of Christ were the same SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Marc. 1. v. 8. S. Ihon saieth I haue baptized you with water S. Ihons baptisme differēt from Christs but he shall baptize you with the Holie Ghost Act. 19. ver 2. S. Paul saied to them Haue ye receaued the Holie Ghost beleiuing But they saied to him Nay nether haue we heard whether there be a Holie Ghost But he saied In what then were you baptized Who saied In Ihons baptisme vers 5. Hearing these things they were baptized in the name of our Lord Iesus CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Councel of Trent Sess 7. Can. 1. de baptismo Isanie shall say that Ihons baptisme had the same vertue that the baptisme of Christ be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Whitaker ad Ration 8. Campiani saieth of the baptisme of S. Ihon and Christ It was the same ceremonie the same doctrin Not different the same grace Willet Cont. 12. q. 7. p. 585. Ihons baptisme was not diuers frō Christs baptisme but was all one with it in propertie and effect Zuinglius de ver falsa relig c. de baptismo It is altogether one baptisme whether you call it Ihons or Christs Et de Baptismo to 2. f. 75. It will appeare that that outward baptisme of water which Iohn vsed agreeth with the externall baptisme of Christ and the Apostles and that there is no difference at all betweene them Caluin in Luc. 3. v. 3. It is false that the baptismes of Ihon and Christ were diuers Beza lib. quaest respons pag. 344. I say that indeed it was one onely and the same baptisme administred first of Ihon and after by Christs commandment Bucanus in Inst Theol. loco 47. What differ the Baptisme of Ihon Baptist and of Christ Not in Author not in substance not in doctrine not in signe or ceremonie not also in effector or signification More of their like sayings in my Latin booke c. 9. art 10. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that S. Ihons Baptisme was giuen in water Christs baptisme in the Holie Ghost that S. Ihons baptisme was not giuen in the name of the Holie Ghost in so much as they who had beene Baptized with it knew not that there was a Holie Ghost that they who had beene baptized with S. Ihons baptisme were baptized againe with Christs baptisme The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that S. Ihons and Christs baptisme was all one ceremonie one doctrine one grace was not diuers but all one in propertie and effect altogether one that there was no difference at all betweene them not diuers one onely and the same not different in Author substance doctrine signe ceremonie effect or signification ART XI WHETHER THOSE EPHESIANS whereof is spoaken Actor 19. had beene baptized with S. Ihons baptisme SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Act. 19. v. 3. But he S. Paul saied In what thē were ye baptized The Ephesiās baptized with S. Ihons baptisme Who saied In Ihons baptisme v. 5. Hearing these they were baptized in the name of our Lord Iesus CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Actor 19. v. 5. We must beleiue and stedfastly beleiue that those twelue Ephesians had beene before baptized of Ihon. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker lib. 8. cont Dur. sect 70. I denie that those men They were not baptized with S. Ihone baptisme whereof Luke maketh mention in the Actes were baptized againe Caluin 4. Institut c. 15. § 18. I denie that they were baptized againe Zuinglius de Baptismo to 2. f. 80. Behould an other argument whereby it is demonstrated that those Ephesians were neuer baptized in Ihons outward baptisme Resp ad Hueber f. 104. If thou hadst had any consideration of those things thou wouldst neuer haue come to that madnesse to say that these disciples had beene baptized of Ihon. Beza in Actor 19. v. 2. We must needs say that there is not treated of any peculiar historie of twelue men who were ether baptized or rebaptized of the Apostle or of baptisme Sadeel ad Art 10. Abiurat We no where read that Ihons disciples after his death following Christ were rebaptized of the Apostles THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the saied Ephesians were first baptized
name of vertue Of the same opinion are all Protestāts who as we shall see in the next chapter thinke that all our good workes are defectuous and sinfull For in this the same reason is of faith and good workes THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that some faith is great full abundant consummate in hope against hope nor weake and more pretious then tried gould The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that euerie faith is imperfect none perfect none of anie worth or value euerie one needeth pardon is sinne is defiled with manie spots worse then the law requireth lame polluted defiled with infidelitie like a most filthie leprous and scabbie hand and not truely worthie of the name of vertue ART VIII WHETHER FAITH BE CONsummate or perfected by good workes of charitie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Iames 2. v. 22. Seest thou that faith did worke with his workes Faith perfected by workes and by workes the faith was consummate CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 2. 2. quaest 4. artic 3. Charitie is called the forme of faith in that by charitie the act of faith is perfected and formed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Gal. 2. to 5. f. 296. The true Ghospell is that workes Workes no perfection of faith or charitie are not the ornament or perfection of faith Bullinger Decade 3. Serm. 9. That opinion is altogether vnworthie of a Christian which affirmeth that our faith is perfected by workes that is that by workes is supplied that which wanteth to faith Caluin in Iacob 2. v. 22. Faith is saied to haue beene perfected Faith not perfected by workes by workes not that it taketh its perfection thence but because thereby it is proued to be true The same say other Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that faith is consummate or perfected by workes The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that faith is not adorned or perfected by workes that workes do not perfect faith that faith taketh not her perfection from workes ART XIV WHETHER BY FAITH WE do onely know that we are iustified SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Luc. 7. v. 50. And he Iesus saied to the woman Thy faith Faith maketh safe hath made thee safe goe in peace Rom. 1. c. 17. The iust liueth by faith The same is Galat. 3. Giueth life Hebr. 10. Abacuc 2. Rom. 3. v. 30. For it is one God that iustifieth circuncision Iustifieth by faith and prepuce by faith c. 5. v. 1. Being therefore iustified by faith let vs haue peace towardes God Act. 26. vers 18. That they may receaue remission of sinnes and lot among the saints by the faith that is in me Gal. 2. ver 16. We also beleiue in Christ Iesus that we may be Saueth iustified by the faith of Christ Ephes 2. v. 8. By grace you are saued through faith CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Iustif c. 17. Let vs proue that true faith is not as our aduersaries would a bare and sole apprehension of iustice but a cause and that it hath vertue of iustifying PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Zuinglius in Exposit Fidei to 2. f. 557. We say that sinnes Faith onely make●h vs certaine of forgiuenesse are remitted by faith whereby we meane nothing els then to say that onely faith maketh a man certaine of the remission of his sinnes De Prouidet c. 6. to 1. f. 371. Iustification and Saluation are attributed to faith whereas they proceed onely from Gods election and liberalitie and faith followeth the election so that who haue it may know as it were by a signe and pledge that they are elected Et in Rom. 8. to 4. If we will speake properly election Faith saueth not saueth not faith but because faith is a certaine signe that thou art an elect it is attributed to faith which pertaineth to election Sutclif l. 2. de Eccles c. 6. The iustice wherewith we are iust Iustification dependeth of no act of ours before God doth not depend of anie temporall act of man but of the eternall decree of God and is then indeed when a man beginneth to beleiue The like hath Perkins in Serie Causarum c. 57. Abbots in Diatribam Tomsoni c. 4. He should remember that before God we are actuallie iustified from all eternitie in We are iustified from all eternitie Faith perswadeth vs of our iustification whome yet this is not reuealed and manifested but in due time Piscator in Thesibus l. 2. loco 8. When we say we are iustified by faith we meane that by faith we are certainely perswaded that God imputeth iustice to vs or remitteth our sinnes for the satisfactiō and obedience of Christ. Of the same opiniō are they who as we shall see in the next article denie that faith is necessarie to iustification or saluation For that sheweth that in their opinion faith hath no other function in iustification then to know it and to make vs certaine thereof And perhaps for this cause they both call faith an apprehension of iustice and define it to be aknowledge of Gods will towards vs as Caluin doth 3. Instit c. 2. § 6. and in Cathecismo c. defide or a persuasion of iustification or saluation as do Bucer and Beza cited art 2. For knowledge or persuasion doth no way cause the thing but onely maketh vs certaine of it THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that we are iustified by faith receaue remission of sinnes by faith that we liue by faith are saued by faith that faith maketh vs safe The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that we are actually iustified from all eternitie that our iustification dependeth of no temporall act of ours that our iustification is then reuealed whē we begin to beleiue that to be iustified by faith is to be perswaded that God imputeth iustice to vs that sinnes to be remitted by faith is nothing els but men to be made certaine by faith that their sinnes are remitted ART XV. WHETHER FAITH BE NEcessarie to iustification or saluation SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Marc. 16. v. 16. He that beleiueth not shal be condemned Faith necessarie to saluation Ioan. 3. v. 18. He that doth not beleiue is already iudged because he beleiueth not in the name of the onely begotten Sonne of God Et v. 36. He that is incredulous to the Sonne shall not see And iustification life but the wrath of God remaineth vpon him Hebr. 11. v. 6. Without faith it is impossible to please God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 6. c. 7. Without faith none was euer iustified PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Willet Cont. 12. q. 5. p. 574. Christ dwelleth in Infants by his Not necessarie to iustification Holie Spirit though they haue no faith The same he repeateth Contr. 13. q. 1. p. 592. Et Cont. 12. cit p. 569. Infants haue nether faith nor charitie Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 6. c. 3. Baptisme infuseth not faith or any
grace into Infants Perkins Cathol reform Contr. 16. c. 1. pag. 271. Though a Desire to beleiue is sufficient desire to repent and to beleiue be not faith and repentance in nature yet in Gods acceptation it is God accepting the will for the deed p. 272. Now if any shall say that without a liuelie faith in Christ none can be saued I answere that God accepts the desire to beleiue for liuelie faith in the time of temptation and in the time of our first conuersion p. 273. Certaine it is that God in sundrie cases accepts of this desire to beleiue for true faith indeed See Rogers on the 25. Art p. 147. Zuinglius de Prouidentia to 1. fol. 370. It is not generall Faith not necessarie to saluation that who hath not faith is to be damned Againe As for the damnation of the incredulous they onely are vnderstood who heard and beleiued not of others we cannot iudge De Peccato orig to 2. f 118. That who beleiueth not shal be damned is not to be vnderstood absolutely but of thē who hauing heard the Ghospell would not beleiue Et in Exposit Fidei to 2. fol. 659. Heathens may be saued he saieth that in heauen we shall find Hercules Theseus Numa and such like Pagans and his opinion therein defend the Tigurins in their Confession of faith Bullinger in the Preface thereof Gualter in Praefat. operum Zuinglij in Apologia pro eodem And the same doctrine of the saluation of Pagans mantayne Erasmus Thommer Hardenberg Tossanus and other Protestants as Schlusselburg reporteth l. 3. Theol. Caluin art 7. Bucer in Math. 19. Furthermore out of that that Infants Infants saued without faith want faith nothing lesse is concluded then which some thinke that therefore they please not God nor are Saintes Musculus in locis tit de baptismo Infants are saued by Gods election albeit they be taken out of this life not onely without baptisme but also without faith Caluin in Math. 19. v. 14. That they auouch that we are no other waies reconciled to God and made heires of adoption then by faith that we confesse of such as are of discretion but for so much as pertaineth to infants this place conuinceth it to be false Et 4. Instit c. 16. § 29. 31. li. cont Seruet p. 647. he writeth that that sentence Euerie one that beleiueth not the Sōne of God abideth in death belongeth not to infants Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 407. Albeit the children of Christans want faith yet is not baptisme vnprofitable to them Daneus Controuers de Baptismo c. 10. He asketh what No faith needfull to Infants faith it is which we require in the baptisme of Infants I answere None Peter Martyr in Schlusselburg l. 1. Theol. Caluin art 18. The children of faithfull parents are saintes by the mere mercie of God though they haue not true faith in Christ Hungari apud Grauer in Absurdis Caluin cap. 4. sect 25. The children of Christians cannot be properly saied to haue faith yet all that are predestinate amongst them are saued and obtaine the kingdome of heauen THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that who beleiueth not shal be condemned is already iudged shall not see life that the wrath of God abideth vpon him and that it is impossible to please God without faith The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christ dwelleth in Infants though they haue no faith that they please God are saued are Saintes without faith that the sentence of condemnation against incredulous belongeth nether to infants nor to such as haue not heard the Ghospell that a man may be saued with desire of faith though he haue no faith indeed that in diuers cases God accepteth the desire of faith for liuelie faith that diuers Pagās are saued Which are so contrarie to Scripture as diuers Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XVI WHETHER FAITH DO INdeed iustifie or be a true cause of iustification SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. The holie Scripture in the places cited before artic 14. Faith is a true cause of Iustification and Saluatiō saieth that we are iustified by faith receaue remission of sinnes by faith liue of faith are saued by faith CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 6. cap. 8. Faith is the beginning of mans saluation the foundation and roote of all iustification CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Confessio Belgica art 22. Properly speaking we meane not Faith it selfe doth not iustifie that faith it selfe by it selfe or of it selfe doth iustifie vs as which is onely as it were an instrument with which we apprehend Christ our iustice Whitaker ad Demonstrat 10. Sanderi Faith is not cause No cause of saluation of our saluation Perkins in Galat. 3. Faith doth not cause worke or procure Saluation dependeth not of faith our Saluation In Serie causarum cap. 57. Saluation dependeth not of our faith The same hath Sutclife cited art 14. Illyricus in Claue Scriptur part 2. tract 6. col 551. Faith the word and Sacraments are saied to saue vs whereas God alone doth such things col 552. It is often saied Thy faith hath made thee safe whereas the onely mercie of God and his omnipotencie apprehended by faith doth that Whereupon he addeth that Faith no true cause saluation in the Scripture Effects are often times attributed to not true or not to principall causes Zuinglius in Elencho to 2. f. 34. Here is a diffcultie Hou faith doth make blessed or iustifieth But whatsoeuer seemeth hard to loose flieth a sunder with a small stroke of the figure synechdoche For faith is taken for the election the predestination and vocation of God all which goe before faith Bucanus in Instit Theol. loco 31. Nether the worke nor act Faith doth not iustifie vs of faith doth iustifie vs but Christ himselfe whome we apprehend by faith Pareus l. 1. de Iustif c. 17. It cannot be saied with out plaine absurditie and falsitie that we are iustified by faith or out of faith as by an efficient or formall cause Againe By no means that efficiencie or vertue of iustifying can be ascribed to faith without absurditie and falsitie Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 41. This speech Faith doth iustifie vs is figuratiue and metonymicall and hath this sense God iustifieth the beleiuer for the merit of Christ which the beleiuer by onely faith apprehēdeth c. 56. Baptisme goeth before saluatiō but causeth it not which we giue not to faith properly but onely metaleptically THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that Faith truely causeth iustification and saluation The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that faith is no cause of our saluation nether worketh not procureth our saluation that our saluation dependeth not vpon our faith that faith doth not iustifie vs that without absurditie and falsitie it cannot be saied faith is ether efficient or formall cause of iustification or hath vertue of iustifying ART XVII
because they would not embrace Christ with true faith And in the margent Onely incredulitie damneth men Whereupon Beza in the same Colloquie pag. 421. 448. in part 2. resp pag. 215. saied Surely your speech seemed to vs intolerable That men are not damned for sinne or because they haue sinned And notwithstanding Beza himselfe in the same Colloq pag. 103. saieth The onely efficient cause of damnation is our incredulitie 106. I say that onely incredulitie Onely incredulitie causeth damnation is the efficient cause of the damnation of the impious Et 2 part resp cit p. 6. Men perish not simply for sinne but for incredulitie Schlusselburg to 7. Catal. Haeret. p. 824. No sinnes condemne vnlesse incredulitie be adioyned Bidembachius in Consensu Iesuit Christian printed at Rochel 1584. p. 733. This saying is not ill vsed of some diuines It onely damneth Onely incredulitie damneth Wherefore ether Torrensis must reproue the office of the Holie Ghost reprouing the world and correct his tongue or he must graunt that men are damned for incredulitie alone Reineccius to 3. Armaturae c. 12. Man is punished not because Men are not punished because they did not well Sinnes do not damne Onely infidelitie is cause of damnation he did not well Zuinglius in Ioan. 5. tom 4. Sinnes do not make a man vniust nor damne a man but impietie and incredulitie Pareus in Collegio Theol. 7. Disput 5. It is rightly saied That onely infidelitie is the cause of damnation THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that men are damned for sinnes of omission or not doing that which they were bound to doe that euerie one is iudged according to his workes The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that men are not punished because they did not well that sinnes condemne not mē that men are not damned for sinnes or because they haue sinned that no sinne is so grieuous as it can condemne a man that damnation followeth no sinne but incredulitie that onely incredulitie damneth men that men are damned for infidelitie onely ART XI WHETHER WE MVST GIVE account of our sinnes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 12. vers 36. I say vnto you that euerie idle word that Man must giue account of euerie idle word men shall speake they shall render an account for it in the day of iudgment Rom. 14. v. 12. Euerie one of vs for himselfe shall render account to God 2. Cor. 5. v. 10. For we must all be manifested before the iudgment Of things that he hath done seat of Christ that euerie one may receaue the proper things of the bodie according as he hath done ether good or euill Apoc. 20. ver 12. And the dead were iudged of those things which were written in the bookes according to their workss CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Act. 15. v. 11. Caluinists cannot abide that workes be called to account But these pestilēt teachers lead their followers right to the pitte of hell and directly gainesay the holie Scripture Workes must come to account PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Palatina p. 202. I beleiue and confesse that God Gods iugdment not to be feared the Father for Christs most full satisfaction neuer remembreth my sinnes so that I haue no need to feare the iudgment of God Luther in Gal. 1. to 5. f. 282. Christ will not exact an account He will not take account of our life Not enter into iudgmēt with vs. of vs of our ill passed life Caluin in Math. 12. v. 36. In this is founded the trust of our saluation that God will not enter into iudgment with vs. In c. 27. v. 26. Nether is it to be feared that our sinnes come any more into Gods iudgment In Roman 4. v. 6. Who are couered with Christs iustice they haue not onely God appeased to them but also to their workes whose spotts and blemishes are couered with Christs puritie that they come not to account In Gal. 3. v. 22. It followeth vndoubtedly If workes come into iudgment we are all damned Beza in Confess c. 4. sect 12. This sanctification of humane nature in Christ imputed to vs by faith hath made that the relikes of that corruption which is euen in the regenerate come not to account before God Scarpe de Iustif Contr. 7. These sinnes shall not come to account before God Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 67. The elect do know that nether their deeds nor all their words shal be called to the reckoning of this last iudgment THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that we shall giue account of euerie idle word that euerie one shall giue account for himselfe that euerie one shall receaue for the good or ill which he hath done that the dead shal be iudged according to their workes The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christ will not exact an account of our life ill passed that God will not enter into iudgment with vs that our sinnes shall not come to iudgment shall not come to reckoning that nether all our deeds or words shall come to the reckoning of iudgment ART XII WHETHER THE ELECT being iustified committeth ill or sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Psal 50. ver 6. Dauid saieth of himselfe To thee onely haue Dauid did ill I sinned and haue done ill before thee 2. Reg. 12. v. 9. Nathan saieth to Dauid Why therefore hast thou contemned the word of the Lord that thou wouldest doe euill in my sight CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Amiss Grat. c. 7. Dauid himselfe peculiarly bewaileth his adulterie and murder and amongst other things saieth To thee onely haue I sinned and haue done ill before thee PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zanchius de Perseuerantia tom 7. col 124. Dauid sinned He committed not sinne indeed but neuer committed sinne Et 147. The regenerate commit not sinne Musculus in Locis tit de Peccato The elect commit not The elect commit not sinne sinne though they sometimes do sinne Againe The elect commit not sinne but the reprobates Abbots in Diatribam Tomsoni c. 20. Christ manifestly sheweth that it is one thing to sinne an other to commit sinne and saieth that the iustified do not commit sinne THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that Dauid though an elect and iustified man sinned did ill before God contemned Gods word The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that Dauid neuer committed sinne that the regenerate commit not sinne that the elect commit not sine ART XIII WHETHER THE ELECT himselfe being iustified sinneth SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 2 Reg. 24. v. 17. Dauid saieth of himselfe I am he that haue Dauid sinned and did wickedly Did euill sinned I haue done wickedly Et 1. Paralipomen 21. v. 17. It is I that haue sinned it is I that haue done the euill CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Session 6. Can. 23. If anie shall say that a man once iustified cannot sinne nor leese grace c. be he accursed
the disobedience of one man manie were made sinners CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 4. de Amiss Gratiae c. 13. In that one man all sinned PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zuinglius de Peccato orig to 2. f. 116. Nether hindreth it We sinned but figuratiuely in Adam Not truely sinned that S. Paul Rom. 5. saieth All haue sinned For after the same manner the worde Sinned is putte metonymically De Ratione fidei ib. f. 539. I confesse that our first father committed a sinne which is truely a sinne but they who are descended of him did not sinne in this sorte Adolphus Venator apud Homium in Specimine c. We did not sinne in Adam art 15. Thereupon it may be gathered that we did not sinne in Adam because c. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that all sinned in Adam that by his disobedience manie are made sinners The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that all sinned in Adam but figuratiuely that Adam truely sinned but not they who are descended of him that we sinned not in Adam ART XVIII WHETHER THERE BE anie originall sinne SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Scripture in places before cited saieth that all sinned Originall sinne true sinne in Adam that by his disobedience many were made sinners 1. Cor. 15. v. 12. that in Adam all died CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 5. Can. 2. If anie shall say that Adam by his sinne of disobedience transfused onely death and punishment of the bodie in all man kinde and not sinne which is the death of the soule be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Zuinglius de Peccato orig to 2. f. 115. What could be saied Originall sinne is no sinne Not truely called sinne more breefly or clearly then that originall sinne is no sinne but a sicknesse Fol. 116. This is that I will that originall sinne is not truely called sinne but metonymically of the sinne committed of our first father fol. 115. What could be saied more weakly and more farre from Canonicall Scripture then that it is not a sicknesse but a guilt De Baptismo ibid. fol. 87. It followeth Not guilt No staine that litle ones or Infants are without all blemish or staine f. 90. Whence we gather that originall sinne is indeed a sicknesse which yet of it selfe is not faultie nor can cause the punishment of damnation Againe How can it be that what is a sicknesse and contagion deserueth the name of sinne or is sinne indeed And Respons ad Luther fol. 517. The summe of all which No sinne indeed Not such a sinne as hath fault Not properly sinne Maketh not guiltie of death I taught in my booke of originall sinne is this That originall contagion is not such a sinne that hath any fault but rather is a sicknesse which by reason of Adams sinne cleaueth vnto vs. Homius in Specimine c. art 15. bringeth many Protestants who denie originall sinne as Venator Originall sinne is not properly sinne nor deserueth damnation Arminius Originall sinne is fondly saied to make guiltie of death Borrius There is no reason why God would impute this sinne to Infants Beza de Praedestinat cont Castel vol 1. p. 421. thus writeth of Castellio whome D. Humfrey ad Ration 1. Campiani much commendeth for learning and honestie Out of which it may be easily gathred that ether thou accountest originall Originall sinne a fable sinne a fable or els doest so diminish it that what is by origin thou wouldst haue to be attributed to imitation Nether is Beza himselfe farre from the same opinion for 2. part resp ad acta Colloq Montisbel p. 103. he denieth that elected infants need any renouation Faber also and Erasmus whome Protestants challenge for theirs do denie originall sinne in Rom. 5. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that all haue sinned in Adam that all die in Adam that by his disobedience manie are made sinners The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that originall sinne is no sinne but a sicknes not truely a fault but figuratiuely not a guilte not a blemish not a staine not faultie of it selfe that it can not cause damnation not such a sinne as hath fault not a sinne indeed nor deserueth the name of sinne THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF SINNES The things which we hau● rehearsed in this chapter do make manifest that Protestants teach of sinnes quite contrarie to holie Scripture For the Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that sinnes are imputed to the faithfull that they are mortall to them as well as to others that they ought to be ouercomen of the faithfull that whosoeuer serue sinne serue not God that great sinnes putte out grace nor can stād with iustice that they are to be redeemed with good workes that to abstaine from them is necessarie to saluation that they are the cause why men are damned that we must giue an account of them that they are committed of the elect and that with full consent that vsurie is a sinne and that originall sinne is a true sinne All which Protestants do denie They make also manifest that Protestants play the What Protest take from sinnes theiues towards sinnes also and steale from them no lesse then from good things but that they steale from sinne other kind of qualities and for an other end For from God from Christ from Saintes from the Church from Sacraments from good workes and other godlie and holie things they steale that which is good vertuous and worthie of praise and honour that thereby they may not seeme so worthie to be loued and esteemed of men But from sinnes they steale malice all power of hurting the faithfull in saying they are not imputed to them cast not them out of Gods grace and such like now rehearsed to the end that they should not seeme so horrible and so much to be auoided of the faithfull And thereby they shew themselues to be freinds of sinne and precursors of him who is termed The man of sinne And thus much of 2. Thessal 2. Sinnes Now of Iustification from them CHAPTER XVI OF IVSTIFICATION ART I. WHETHER IVSTIFICATION be of workes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. IAMES 2. v. 21. Abraham our father was he not Abraham iustified by workes Man Rahab iustified by workes vers 24. Do you see that by workes a man is iustified Et v. 25. Rahab the harlot was not she iustified by workes Luc. 7. v. 47. Manie sinnes are forgiuen her because she hath loued much Act. 3. vers 19. Be penitent therefore and conuert that your sinnes may be putte out CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 4. v. 2. Abrahams workes had glorie euen before God and he was iustified of then as S. Iames doth most expressely affirme PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Apologia Confess Augustanae c. de Iustif Reconciliation Reconciliation not by workes is not receaued by workes c. de Implet legis If anie thinke that he obtaineth remission of sinnes because
de Subsidio tom 2. fol. 253. of which corruption of Scripture thus writeth Illyricus vpon this place Some corrupt this text by translating The Cuppe of thanks giuing by which we giue thanks and the text so corrupted they vse in their liturgies in steed of the words of the Institution or holie supper making a duble sacriledge Caluin also in Math. 26. ver 26. not onely expoundeth the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by He gaue thāks but also in the very text translateth it when he had giuen thanks And yet as himselfe confesseth there Mathew and Marke vse the word of Blessing Why therefore would not he vse the same word in S. Mathews text Because those words Acts 2. v. 27. Because thou wilt not They change leaue my soule in hell proue that Christs soule descended into hel Beza in his translation An. 1557. thus changeth the text Because thou wilt not leaue my carcasse in the graue Et ad Defens Castell p. 460. he saieth My soule in the text I did translate My carcasse but in my Notes My life but we may also take My soule in steed of the Pronoune Me. Which exposition saieth he is most plaine And he addeth Where as I noted that by the ancient translation my soule the error rose I did it not without cause sith we see that Papists wrest this place especially for to setle their Limbus and the Fathers from thence deuised that descent of Christ soule into hell As if he had saied I was forced to alter the tongue of the holie Ghost because he spoake against me In like sorte because we proue the same out of that passage Act. 2. v. 3● Foreseing he spoake of the resurrection of Christ for nether was he left in hell c. the French Bibles An. 1562. 1567. 1568. 1605. of Hell haue made Graue as also hath Tremellius done in his Latin translation of the Bible neuewed by Iunius printed at Hannow 1603. Because those words Psalm 5. verss 5. Thou art not a God They change that wilt iniquitie proue that God no way willeth iniquitie or sinne the Kings Bible translateth the place thus That hath pleasure in wickednesse The French Bibles An. 1568. That loueth iniquitie And those of 1588. and 1610. That art not delighted with iniquitie And the like hath Piscator apud Vorstium in Parasceue cap. 3. and Tremellius in this place That so they may defēd their blasphemous doctrine that God willeth iniquitie though he do not loue it Because these words Ezechiel 33. vers 11. Liue I sayeth They change our Lord I will not the death of the wicked but that he be conuerted from his way and liue do proue that God of himselfe willeth no mans death the Kings Bible translateth them thus I haue no pleasure in the death c. and so also doth Musculus in locis tit de veritate Tremellius in this place Piscator in Thesibus l. 2. p. 187. and others That God may seeme of himselfe to will mens death though he take not pleasure in it as say they a sicke man willeth a bitter potion though he take no delighte in it Because the words 2. Thessalon 2. v. 15. Hould the traditions They change which yee haue learnt whether it be by word or by our Epistle do proue that traditions not written are as well to be held as those that are written Beza in his translation An. 1598. changeth the disiunctiue particle whether into the coniunctiue Also in this manner Hould the traditions which yee haue learnt by speach and also by our Epistle Whome follow Author Respons ad Theses Vadimontanas pag. 647. and others An other translation of Beza in Tremellius hath thus Hould the deliuered doctrine which you haue beene taught both by speach and by Epistle Where for whether he hath And and for Traditions Deliuered doctrine as Tremellius for Traditions hath Commandments The French An. 1568. and 1605. haue Institutions and the Queens Bible hath Ordinances Because those words 1. Timoth. 2. v. 4. Who will all men They change to be saued shew that God hath a will to saue all men Beza in that place changeth All into whomsoeuer that God may seeme to haue onely a will to saue whatsoeuer kinde of men In like sorte ib. v. 6. Where the Scripture saieth Who gaue himselfe a redemption for all Beza translateth For whomsoeuer Because that speach 1. Timoth. 4. v. 10. Who is the Saniour They change of all men especially of the faithfull declare that Christ redeemed all men Beza in that place in steed of Sauiour putteth Preseruer And saieth Because the name of Sauiour troubleth manie in that commonly it signifieth eternall life purchased by Christ therefore to auoid ambiguitie I chose rather to say Preseruer As if he had saied Because the word which the Scripture vseth doth shew that Christ purchased eternall life for all therefore I haue changed it for an other Because those words Coloss 1. v. 10. That yee may walke They change worthie of God and 1. Thessalon 2. v. 11. We haue adiured euerie one of you that you walke worthie of God and 3. Epistle of 5. Ihon. v. 6. Whome thou shalt doe well bringing on their way in manner worthie of God do shew that good workes may be worthie of God Beza in all these places for worthie of God hath Agreable to God Tremellius 1. Coloss v. 10. for worthie of God hath It is iust and 1. Thessal 2. It is agreable to God The Kings Bible 3. Ioan. 6. cit hath After a godlie sorte Because Christs words Lucae 7. ver 47. Manie sinnes are They change forgiuen her because she hath loued much insinuate iustification by workes Beza in place of Because in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 translateth For. And addeth that he did so that it might be more easily perceaued that in these words is not shewed the cause of remission of sinnes The Kings Bible Illyricus and others follow Beza herein Because those words of S. Luke c. 1. v. 6. They were both They translate ill iust before God walking in all the commandements and iustifications of our Lord without blame helpe to proue that good workes are iustifications and do iustifie Beza though he confesse that the Greek word which S. Luke vseth be to be literally translated Iustifications Yet saieth that he would not so interprete it that saieth he I might take away this occasion of impugning iustification by onely faith and so in steed of Iustifications hath Rites Tremellius hath Righteousnesse Queen Elizabeths and King Iames Bible ordinances Because those words Philip. 2. v. 12. Worke your saluation Translate ill with feare and trembling proue that we may worke our saluation The French Bibles An. 1562. 1568. 1605. 1610. in steed of worke haue Endeauour you that the Scripture may seeme onely to say that we may endeauour to worke but not worke our saluation Because those words Iames 5. v. 16. Confesse
doctrine of the law not of the Ghospell Caluin ib. We gather that this answere of Christ is according to the law Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 6. col 543. That all be bound vnder payne of losse of eternall life to doe good and auoid sinne is a sentence of the law and must and ought to be corrected and restrained by the Protestant Ghospell or by remission of sinnes Peter Martyr in Rom. 11. That saying Forgiue and it shal be forgiuen is a precept and therefore pertaineth to the law Melancthon in Apologia tom 3. c. de argumentis The promise of reconciliation and of eternall life is free but proper legall promises are added for workes as who shall giue a draught of water shall not want his reward Wherefore thus I frame my eleuenth argument Who not onely contradict the expresse words of Scripture but also are compelled to turne conditionall propositions of Scripture into absolute and to delude them diuers other waies do contradict also the sincere meaning of the Scripture But thus doe Protestants Therefore c. CHAPTER XII THAT PROTESTANTS CHANGE manie causall propositions of Scripture into not causall THE 12. argument for to proue that Protestants contradict the true sense of Scripture shal be because they are compelled in manie and weightie controuersies to turne causall propositions into not causall For is we proue that Christ was exalted for his humiliation because it is saied Philippen 2. ver 8. He humbled himselfe made obedient vnto death euen the death of the crosse For For the which thing God hath exalted him Caluin ibid. answereth That illatiue particle wherefore in this place signifieth rather consequence then cause And 2. Instit c. 17. § vlt. The solution is easie that Paul there speaketh not of the cause of Christs exaltation but onely sheweth the consequence And Daneus Controuer 2. pag. 201. The particle For which sheweth the order and continuation of the speach not the cause for which If we proue the same out of those wordes Hebrew 2. ver 9. We see Iesus because of the passion of death crowned with glorie and honour Caluin ib. answereth Because of the passion of death is as much as if he had saied Christ hauing died was raised to this glorie which he hath gotten For the meanes onely that I may so speake of obtaining glorie is declared If we proue that confession of faith is cause of saluatiō as faith is cause of iustification out of those words Rom. 10. ver 10. For with heart we beleiue vnto iustice but with the To. mouth confesson is made to saluation Caluin ib. answereth We must not gather thereof that confession is cause of saluation he ment onely to tell how God doth perfect our saluation It is a necessitie of perpetuall consequence not that he attributeth saluation to confession Hunnius lib. de Iustificat p. 186. saieth That Confession to saluation is the same that confession of saluation Which the Electorall Ministers in Colloq Aldeburg p. 295. affirme to be a corruption of Scripture If we proue that keeping of the commandements is cause of our freindship with God by those words Ioan. 15. v. 14. You are my freinds if you doe the things that I commād If. you Caluin ib. answereth He meaneth not that we get so much honour by anie merit of ours but onely admonisheth vs vpon what condition he receaueth vs into grace and vouchsafeth to reckon vs among his freinds If we proue that the forgiuenesse of our sinnes dependeth vpon our forgiuing of others out of those words Luc. 11. v. 4. Forgiue vs our sinnes for because our selues also do Because forgiue euerie one that is in debt to vs. Caluin in Math. 6. v. 11. answereth Neuerthelesse forgiuenesse which we demand for our selues dependeth not of that which we giue but by this means Christ would exhorte vs to forgiue all offenses and withall confirme more our trust of forgiuenesse as it were by fealing it Nether skilleth it that in Luke is the particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is as much as For because or For because Christs meaning was not to note the cause but onely to aduertise what kind of mind we ought to haue towards our brethren whiles we seeke to be reconciled to God If we proue that by charitie we be made the sonnes of God out of those words Math. 5. ver 45. But I say to you That loue your enemies doe good to them that hate you and pray for them that persecure and abuse you that you may be the children of your father which is in heauen Calum ib. answereth Vnderstand not that by our beneficence we become the children of God But because the same Spirit which is witnesse assurance and seall of our free adoption doth correct the naughtie affectiōs of the flesh which are contrarie to charitie Christ proueth by the effect that no others are the children of God but those who resemble him in clemencie and meeknes If we proue that loue is the cause of forgiuing sinnes by those words Luc. 7. v. 47. Manie sinnes are forgiuen her Because because she hath loued much Aretius in locis part 1. fol. 84. answereth Because is taken ostentiuely not causatiuely This is so necessarie as the place cannot be otherwise vnderstood The like hath Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 4. Polanus in disp priuat 36. If we proue that keeping of the commandments is cause of obtaining what we pray for out of those words 1. Ioan. 3. v. 22. Whatsoeuer we shall aske we shall receaue of Because him because we keep his commandements Caluin ibidem answereth He meaneth not that our trust in praier consisteth in our workes but this onely he vrgeth that pietie and sincere worshippe of God cannot be seperated from faith Nether must it seeme absurd that he vseth the causall particle though he meane not of the cause for the inseperable accident vseth sometime to be put for the cause If we proue that workes are cause of reward out of these words Math. 16. ver 27. He will render to euerie man According according to his workes Caluin ibid. answereth As often as reward is promised to good workes the cause of saluation is not shewed but the faithfull are onely encouraged to doe well because they are assured that they shall not leese their labour If we proue that good workes are cause of eternall happines out of these words Math. 25. v. 34. Possessethe For. kingdome c. For I was hungrie and you gaue me to eate And c. 25. v. 23. Because thou hast beene faithfull ouer a few things I will place the ouer manie things enter into the ioy of thy Lord. And Apocal. 7. ver 14. These are they which are come out of Therefore great tribulation c. therefore they are before the throne of God Pareus lib. 5. de Iustificat c. 3. saieth The answere of all Protestants is that the causall particle in the
withal Which we must vniuersally and alwaies obserue and hould of workes in the cause of our saluation to wit that they are as a way and certaine markes which lead vs to glorie but not by causing or working it Caluin vpon those words 2. Cor. 7. v. 10. For the sorrow that is according to God worketh pennance vnto saluation that is stable writeth thus Paul enquireth not of the cause of saluation but onely commending pennance of the fruite which it Worke. 1. is as a way bringeth forth doth say that it is like a way whereby we come to saluation In this sorte consequence is rather signified then anie cause And to the same place Pareus libr. 4. de Iustificat cap. 7. answereth No efficient cause but a meane or condition which helpeth ether by it selfe or by accident is signified And Scarpius de Iustification Controuers 12. Pennance is saied to worke saluation not by making it by it vertue but by leading as by a way to saluation The same Caluin in 1. Corinth 7. vers 19. Circumcision is nothing and prepuce is nothing but the obseruation of the commandements of God Here saieth he Paul disputeth not of the cause of iustice nor how we obtaine it but onely to what the faithfull ought to bend endeauour And vpon that Wash 1. feele Actorum 22. vers 16. Be baptized and wash away thy sinnes Ablution he saieth he signifieth not the cause but is referred to Paules feeling who hauing receaued the Symbol knew better that his sinnes were forgiuen And 3. Institution cap. 4. § 36. he saieth Where sinne is saied to be purged by mercie and bountifulnesse Prouerb 16. is not meant that by them it is recompensed in the sight of God but is shewed that they shall find God mercifull to them who forsaking vice are turned to pietie as if he had saied Gods wrath is appeased when we leaue our wickednesse And ibidem cap. 14. § vltim hauing obiected to himselfe that the Scripture declareth that good workes are the cause that God doth fauour them he answereth That which in order goeth first he calleth the cause of that which followeth In this manner he deriueth Cause 1. a step sometimes eternall life from good workes not that it is giuen for them but because whom God hath chosen he iustifieth that afterward he may glorifie the former grace which is a steppe to the later he after a sorte maketh a cause Finally by these kinde of speaches order is rather signified then cause Pareus l. 3. de Iustif c. 12. saieth that by those words 2. Timoth. 4. I haue fought a good fight the order and way to the crowne is noted not the cause So that what the Scripture maketh the cause according to these men is onely a meane a way steppe or order In like manner what the Scripture attributeth to one cause they giue to an other as what it atttibuteth to good workes they giue to faith onely what it ascribeth to faith or Sacraments they appropriate to God alone Zuinglius l. de Prouident cap. 6. When Paul writeth to Hearing 1. Spirit the Romans that faith cometh of hearing in the same manner he attributeth that to the nearer cause and more knowne to vs which cometh onely from the Spirit and not from outward preaching And in Math. 4. Oftentimes that is attributed to the later which belongeth to the former as to workes which rather belongeth to faith and againe to faith which most properly Workes 1. faith and truely belongeth to Gods election Sadeel de ver Peccat remiss p. 139. answering to those words Prouerb 16. Iniquitie is purged by bountie and mercie saieth That is attributed to the effects which is proper to the cause after the vsuall manner saieth he of Scripture That is attributed to their vertue which properly is to be attributed to the benefit of Christ alone Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 6. Faith word and Sacraments Faith c. 1. God are saied to saue vs whereas God alone doth those things And ibid. Thy faith hath saued thee whereas onely Gods mercie and omni potēcie apprehēded by faith doth that And he addeth Scripture oftentimes attributeth things not to their true causes Oftentimes effects are attributed by the Scripture to not true or not principall causes Herevpon it cometh that there is often mention of Alleosis with Zuinglius and of Metalepsis with others by which figures what the Scripture giueth to one thing they transfer to an other Which Alleosis Zuinglius in Exegesi to 2. f. 350. calleth interchangable speach but Luther in Hospin part 2. Histor f. 57. termeth it the Diuels mask Wherefore thus I argue in forme Who gaynesay the expresse words of Scripture in such sorte as we haue seene in the first booke and besides in manie and weightie matters words which signifie a cause do expound of a way meane or order and what the Scripture attributeth to one cause do transferre to an other they contradict the true sense of holie Scripture Protestants doe so Therefore c. CHAPTER XVIII THAT WORDS OF SCRIPTVRE Which say a thing is Protestants expound by ought to be THE 18. argument shal be because what the Scripture saieth Is Protestants expound It ought to be Pareus l. 2. de Iustif c. 7. those words 1. Ioan. 2. v. 5. But he that keepeth his word in him the charitie of God is Is. 1. ought to be perfected expoundeth thus The sentence of S. Ihon as others such like is to be vnderstood of right or dutie not of fact What kinde of charitie ought to be not what kinde is in vs. And ibid. those words Coloss 3. v. 14. Haue charitie which is the bound of perfection he glosseth thus Charitie is called the bound of perfection not which we haue but which we ought to haue and which we shall haue in euerlasting life Et l. 4 c. 11. those words Deuter. 30. v. 6. Our Lord God shall circumcise thy heart and the heart of thy seed that thou maist loue thy Lord God with all thy heart He interpreteth in this sorte The promise to loue God with all thy heart ether speaketh of dutie how we ought to loue God to wit sincerely and perfectly or it speaketh of sinceritie And the same Pareus l. 4. de Grat. lib. arbit c. 6. that sentence of the Apostle 1. Tim. 3. he thus expoundeth The Church is called the pillar and strength of trueth of dutie because she ought alwaies to be so albeit she be not so alwaies in act The same he hath in Gal. 2. lect 18. Moulins in his Bucler pag. 50. and others Tilenus in Syntagmate cap. 46. writeth that in those places Ioan. 14. v. 21. Rom. 13. 8. and Gal. 5. 14. Where the Scripture affirmeth that those who loue God doe keepe his commandements it meaneth not of mans power to performe the law but of our dutie His meaning is that the Scripture meaneth not that who loue God keepe
causes betwene euen to infidelitie it selfe by an absolute decree of reprobation which goeth before all causes Episcopius apud Hom. in Specim Contr. Belg. p. 36. Great iniustice and hypocrisie should be attributed to God if by a secret will he did define and ordaine that those things should be done which by his reuealed will he forbiddeth and will not haue done Arminius ib. saieth Bellarmin obiecteth against the opinion of our Doctors that thereof will follow that God is the Author of sinne that God truely sinneth that God alone sinneth and that sinne is no sinne By this complainte I see no wrong done to your doctrine Perkins They teach that God doth command sinne as we haue proued l. 1. c. 2. art 6. Which to be blasphemie confesseth That he commandeth sinne Beza in Resp ad Acta Montisbel pag. 182. in these words That God commandeth that which he will not punisheth that which he commandeth is the author of euill surely all these things are full of horrible impietie and blasphemie And Zanchius in Depuls calum to 7. col 255. I haue alwaies taught that it is blasphemie to say that God commandeth men to sinne They teach that God doth push and tempt men to That he tēpteth to sinne sinne as is to be seene l. 1. c. 2. art 7. And yet Caluin Resp ad Nebulon. p 732. saieth Was it a doubtfull blasphemie that God pusheth men to sinne And in 1. Ioan. 3. v 8. It is proper to the Deuil to push men to sinne De Praedest pag. 711. If euer I had saied that it had beene done by the instinct of the holie Ghost that the first man should forsake God perhaps Pighius might iustly iusult ouer me Beza de Praedest vol. 1. Theol. p. 404. The name of Tentation doth not agree to God sith it signifieth nothing but inticement to euill which God can no waies doe In Math. 3. v. 3. Tentations which entice vs to euill come not but from Satan And in Respons ad Acta Montisb part 2. pag. 186. Nether he being infinitly good could push a created good to euill Melancthon in Schlusselb l. 1. Theol. Caluin artic 8. They doe inferre that God doth push the mynds and hearts of men to doe wickedly this is a damned error Et lib. de Causa peccati to 2. That same Cyclopicall cauillation of some is to be reiected that therefore God sinneth not in pushing men to euill because there is no law for God This Cyclopicall imagination is detestable Whitaker ad Rat. 8. Camp God did not adde new spurres to Dauid and Iudas for to sinne God forbidde that anie Christian should so much as thinke so Hutter in Anal pag. 683. It cannot be saied or thought without great wickednesse or impietie and blasphemie that God is the efficient impelling inclining cause of sinne They say that God imposeth necessitie or forceth men That he forceth to sinne to sinne as is shewed lib. 1. c. 2. art 8. which to be blasphemie confesseth Whitaker libr. 8. cont Dur. sect 7. We haue alwaies reiected as blasphemous that God doth force and push men to sinne and putteth euill wills into them Kemnice in locis part 1. pag. 169. condemneth this proposition God forceth to sinne And Moulins in Arnolds flights saieth That God doth push and necessitate to sinne is a horrible and Diuelish doctrine They teach that God doth iustifie a wicked man remaining That he iustifieth the wicked wicked as appeareth l. 1. cap. 2. artic Which to be blasphemous is acknowledged by Tilenus in Syntagm c. 41. in these words We denie not that he is made and is iust whome God pronounceth iust which surely the iust iudgement of the most iust iudge doth require whose iudgement is according to trueth They say that God doth not care for good works as That he careth not for good workes we haue shewed l. 1. cap. 2. art 13. of which doctrine thus speaketh Melancthon Resp ad art 24. Bauar What a horrible and barbarous speach is this And Kemnice in loc part 2. tit de bonis oper termeth it a fanaticall paradox They say that God hath no will to saue all nor calleth That he hath no will to saue all all to him as is to be seene l. 1. cap. 2. art 19. And neuer the lesse liber Cōcordiae c. 11. pronoūceth that these doctrines are false horrible and blasphemous That God hath no will that all men should doe pennance and beleiue the Ghospell That when God calleth vs to him he hath no will in earnest that all men should come to him That God will not that all should be saued but that some not for their sinnes but onely for the decree purpose and will of God are destinated to damnation so as by no means they can obtaine saluation The same opinions Herbrand in Compend Theol. loc de Elect. condemneth as blasphemous And Gerlachius to 2. disput 16. saieth Impious blasphemous and pernitious to mens saluation are the doctrines that follow That God willeth not that euerie men be saued That it is false that God hath made all mankinde for no other end then for saluation That God doth not call men to saluation Grauer in absurdis Caluin c. 5. sect 31. This opinion of Caluinists that God hath no will that all men be saued is extremely impious and blasphemous In like manner Iames Andrew in Colloq Montisb p. 421. 422. They teach that God of himselfe willeth the death That he willeth death damnation and damnation of men as appeareth l. 1. cap. 2. art 22. And yet Adamus Francisci in Margarita Theol. loco 17. condemneth as blasphemous these opinions That God hath destinated the greatest number of men to eternall damnation for the mere pleasure of his will That he neuer loued those whome he hath destinated to damnation That our first fathers fell by Gods decree will and ordinance That Christ died for the Elect onely That the merit of his passion pertaineth to the Elect onely That the promises of the Ghospell are not vniuersall That God doth not in earnest call thereprobates by the Ghospell That the reprobate cannot be cōuerted That the elect falling into sinne retaine grace Gerlachius also Disp 16. cit saieth that these are blasphemous positions The reprobate are reprobated without any desert of theirs That God sometime doth by his word signifie that he willeth that which he willeth not and that he will not that which indeed he will That the Ghospell is promulgated to some that they may be indurated Homius disp 60. writeth thus If any should teach that God hath decreed by his absolute will without any respect of sinne to dāne men and to punish thē with euerlasting torments he doubtlesse should blasphemously attribute manifest iniustice to God And Remonstrantes in Collat. Hagae after they had recited this opinion of the Cōtrare monstrantes That God doth reprobate some for his pleasure and not for their sinne so that he
they are filth dūgge and stinke in the face of God art 3. But if all If all good workes be sinne there can be no vertue good works be sinnes and mere sinnes surely there is no vertue at all For as Whitaker saieth l. 2. de Pec. orig c. 14. Tell vs how sinnes can be good workes Which is much more true if they be mere sinnes They set also allurements to sinne For as is shewed l. Protest set allurements to sinne 1. c. 2. art 1. they teach that God willeth sinne art 2. That sinne pleaseth God art 4. That God worketh sinne art 5. That God predestinateth to sinne artic 6. That he commandeth to sinne art 7. That he tempeth to sinne art 8. That he necessitateth to sinne art 10. That he iustifieth the wicked remaining wicked artic 17. That he will not haue his commandements kept And cap. 3. artic 11. That Christ was truely a sinner c 4. art 1. That the Angels in heauen do sinne c. 13. art 17. That faith being alone doth iustifie art 23. That it can neuer be lost c. 16. artic 4. That sinne must not be ouercomen of vs. art 13. That the Elect doe not sinne art 16. That all vsurie is not sinne Et c. 19. art 1. That the law of God is not possible art 2. That neuer anie kept it art 3. That none euer loued God with all his heart But what man in his witts can denie that these Positions Sinne pleaseth God God willeth doeth commandeth sinne He predestinateth necessitateth tempteth to sinne He will not haue his commandements kept Christ and the Angels in heauen doe sinne The wicked is iustified remayning wicked faith being alone doth iustifie it can neuer be lost sinne must not be ouercomen of the faithfull they themselues neuer sinne and such like be great enticements to sinne They take away also the obstacles or impediments They remoue impediments of sinne of sinne in teaching as we haue shewed l. 1. c. 2. art 3. That God hateth not sinne art 9. That God hateth not the faithfull when they worke wickednesse art 11. That he is not angrie with the faithfull whilest they sinne art 12. That he neuer punisheth for anie sinne committed art 23. That he damneth not men for sinne And c. 3. art 7. That Christ gaue no laws art 8. That he is no iudge c. 5. art 6. That the Ghospell promiseth saluation without anie condition of workes art 5. That it doth not reproue sinne c. 10. art 8. That in baptisme al sinnes past present and to come are forgiuen c. 16. art 1. That sinnes are not imputed to the faithfull art 2. That they are not mortall to them art 5. That seruing the flesh we may serue God art 6. That no sinnes cast of grace art 7. That sinnes can stand with grace artic 9. That to abstaine from sinnes is not necessarie to saluation artic 10. That sinne is not the cause of damnation artic 11. That we must not giue account of sinnes cap. 17. artic 12. That iustification is neuer lost artic 13. That the iustified need not feare to fall artic 16. That he is to suffer no punishment at all c. 18. art 4. That the faithfull are not to be iudged art 4. That Hell is no place art 7. That hell fire is no true fire And cap. 19. art 7. That the law is abrogated from the faithfull But it is most euident that taking away Gods wrath hatred and punishment of sinnes and sinners taking away Christs law-giuing and iudgement taking from men all feare of iudgement damnation wrath and hatred of God and of losse of iustice and saluation and putting securitie that men euen committing heynous sinnes are certaine of Gods loue of grace and eternall saluation and free from all punishment whatsoeuer all impediments of sinne on Gods parte are taken away and if anie beleiuing this doctrine do forbeare sinne it proceedeth not but from a naturall engrafted horror of sinne or els from feare or or shame of men Yea so euident it is that diuers positions of Protestants Protest confesse that some of their opinions allure to sinne are allurements to sinne as some Protestants confesse it For thus write the Wittembergians cited before cap. 25. That to denie a man to cooperate to his conuersion doth settle horrible wickednesse Which yet Protestants denie lib. 1. cap. 17. artic 15. Remonstrantes apud Hom. in Specim Cont. Belg. pag. 126. say The doctrine of their perseuerance in faith who haue once beleiued is of it nature and condition sufficiet to engender a securitie in men for to serue them as a cushion in midst of their sinnes Againe Of it selfe it is hurtfull to true pietie and good manners And yet Protestants teach thus libr. 1. cap. 13. art 23. Schlusselburg tom 7. Catal. writeth thus To pardon sinnes to come which one doth studie to commit is surely to graunt an Epicurean licence to sinne And yet this is Protestants doctrine l. 1. cap. 10. art 8. Melancthon in Cocleus in art 6. Confess August thus speaketh Now it is vsuall to speake of faith and faith cannot be vnderstood vnlesse pennance be preached Surely they poure new wine into ould vessels who preach faith without pennance without doctrine of the feare of God without the doctrine of the law accustome the people to a carnall kind of securitie That securitie is worse then all the errors vnder Poperie were And yet Protestants say that the Ghospell doth not reproue sinne doth not preach pennance promiseth saluation vpon condition of faith onely as is shewed l. 1. c. 5. art 5. 6. Hutter in Anal. Cōfess August p. 571. writeth that The error of the Anabaptists who denie that men once iustified can leese the holie Ghost doth giue full licence to commit all kind of villanie vnder the absolute perseuerance of those that are once iustified And yet this is the doctrine of Protestants l. 1. c. 17. art 12. other Protestants in Zanchius de Perseuer to 7. col 159. say that the opinion which teacheth that the faithfull cannot fall from grace taketh away pennance looseth the reines to concupiscence maketh a man secure that he dare sinne euen against his conscience And Liber Concord Luther c. de bonis oper That false and Epicurean opinion is sharpely to be reproued wherewith some feigne that faith and grace once receaued or saluation cannot be lost by anie sinne or wickednesse whatsoeuer albeit it be most freely committed Also other Protestants as Gualterus Praefat. Epist Rom. reporteth when they thinke seriously of pietie doe feare that we deuise to easie a way to saluation and least this doctrine breed a licēce to sinne and opē a gappe for men to dare to doe any thing Moreouer diuers of them confesse that men take occasion to sinne by their doctrine as Luther tom 5. in Gal. 6. Iames Andrews Conc. 4. in Luc. 21. Perkins de Serm. Dom. to 2. and in Gal. 5. ver 13. and others in Erasmus in Epist ad
Protest tormented with the words of Scripture 21. The Protestant interpreters do torment themselues in that Daniel seemeth to attribute redemption or remission of sinnes to mans iustice and works of mercie For they well admonish that it is repugnant to the chiefe point of our religion Daneus in c. 67. Enchir. Aug. saieth that saying of S. Iames We are not iustified by faith onelie doth this day tormēt manie so that some haue reiected the epistle others haue called it strawish Kemnice in loc to 2. tit de Argum. That saying of Daniel c. 4. seemeth very hard against free iustification The third way by which they tacitelie confesse that Protest forced to denie their doctrine their doctrine is contrarie to Scripture is because when it maketh for their purpose they denie that they teach manie of those points which in the former booke we haue clearelie shewed that they plainelie teach And because they do this so frequentlie as I need not bring manie examples thereof I will here cite onelie some few Touching God Pareus thus writeth Colleg. Theol. 9. disp 32. It is a slaunder that we simply say that God would and decreed that our first parents should fall See l. 1. cap. 2. art 5. Of Scripture thus Whitaker Cont. 1. q. 4. cap. 1. Our aduersaries attribute vnto vs this doctrine as if we saied that the Catholik Church could faile which is most false See lib. 1. cap. 8. art The same man q 3. cit c. 2. Our aduersaries slander vs when they say that we make such a Church which sometime is no where and can be seene of none See l. 1. c. 8. art 5. Touching the Eucharist Eliensis Resp ad Apol. Bellar. c. 1. We agree with you of the matter all the contention is about the manner A presence I say we beleiue nor lesse reall then you Perkins in Cath. refor Contr. 10. cap. 1. We beleiue and teach a reall presence of the bodie and blood of Christ in the Sacrament of the Supper and that not feigned but true and reall Argentinenses in Hospin part 2. Histor Be they accursed who will haue nothing to be exhibited here but a signe and figure And Hospinian himselfe Our men neuer denied that the bodie of Christ was truely in their Supper Beza l. qq saieth that it is a slander that they exclude Christ from their Supper Gratianus Antiiesuita p. 140. There is no controuersie whether the true bodie and blood of the Lord be contained in the Sacrament of the Eucharist Et Riuet tract 3. sec 12. The question betwene vs is not simply whether the bodie and blood of Christ be truely and really in this Sacrament Et Spalatensis libr. contr Suar. cap. 1. num 39. Who denieth that the Eucharist is the onely flesh and onely blood of our Lord Iesus Christ See the contrarie of all these lib. 1. c. 11. art 1. Touching faith thus writeth Peter Martyr in loc Class 3. § 24. We make faith hope and charitie three different things nether doe we confound them as our aduersaries accuse vs. See the contrarie lib. 1. c. 13. art 6. Of good works thus Tilenus in Syntag. cap. 46. It is a cruell slander of our aduersaries where they feigne that we teach that all the works of the iust be properly and simply sinnes Et Riuet tract 3. sect 31. None of ours saieth absolutely that all works are sinne nether say we that they are mingled with sinne absolutely See the contrarie lib. 1. c. 14. art 2. Touching good works in particular thus Riuet tract 1. sect 73. We reiect this position That it is one of the conditions necessarie to a Bishop that he be married See the contrarie lib. 1. cap. 15. art 4. Of reward thus the some Riuet 3. sect 39. We denie not the reward of good works See the contrarie lib. 1. c. 14. art 7. c. 18. arr 1. Of free will thus Serranus l. 3. cont Hayum Doth anie of ours denie or euer denied that those that are not regenerate doe fall to sinne of their prone and free will See the contrarie lib. 1. c. 16. art 14. But finally they doe plainely and expressely graunt that Protest confesse much of their doctrine to be against Scripture Of God manie points of Protestants doctrine are cōtrarie to Scripture For touching God thus writeth Confessio Saxon. c. God nether willeth sinne nor approueth nor helpeth it as it is written when the Diuel speaketh a lie he speaketh of his owne and 1. Ioan. 3. Who committeth sinne is of the Diuel Gerlachius tom 2. disput 15. It is impossible that God should will sinne of whome it is saied psalm 5. Thou art not a God that willeth ini-inquitie Et Polanus in Disput priuat p. 235. God nether willeth nor can will the ill of offence or sinne properly taken psal 5. vers 5. Melancthon in disput to 4. p. 623. The conference of the continuall doctrine in the writings of the Prophets and Apostles doth shew that God nether wille●● nor worketh sinne as it is expressely saied Thou art not a Gad that willeth iniquitie And out of this same place Pareus in Colleg. Theol. 1. disp 2. proueth that Gods will is no efficient cause of sinne And yet Protestants teach both that God willeth sinne and worketh sinne See lib. 1. c. 2. art 1. 4. They teach also that God hath ordained and predestinated men to sinne l. 1. c. 2. art 5. of which doctrine Melancthon in disp to 4. p. 572. giueth this censure There are certaine frantike fellows much worse then the Stoicks who teach that God of himselfe doth ordaine and predestinate haynous sinnes and that he willeth them and not onely suffereth them And in locis tit de Causa Peccat Sinne is nether done of God nor ordained of him They teach that God commandeth vrgeth and tempteth to sinne lib. 1. cap. 2. art 7. Which is contrarie to Scripture by iudgment of Riuet tract 3. sect 33. The Scripture expressely saieth that God will not iniquitie that he commandeth none to doe ill that he cannot tempt to ill Moulins in his Bucler p. 97. God doth not stirre vp mē to doe ill as it is saied ps 45. Thou hast loued iustice and hated iniquitie Et Calu. in Math. 4. v. 1. Wherevpon we gather that tentations which incite vs to ill come not frō God They teach that God is not angrie with the faithfull when they worke iniquitie lib. 1. c. 2. art 11. Which to be contrarie to Scripture Protestants in Zanchius in Supplicat confesse in these words God doth threaten his anger to all the transgressors of his law and they cite thereto that Ps 5. Thou hast hated all that worke iniquitie They teach that God hath no will that all should be saued li. c. 2. art 19. Which is against Scripture as cōfesseth Hemingius in these words in Enchir. clas 3. They accuse God of a lye whosoeuer thinke that he will not the saluation of some as farre as perteineth to
proper to the Elect 350 22. VVhether faith come by hearing 352 23. VVhether faith be euer lost 353 24. VVhether faith be rewarded 355 25. VVhether the faith of those who toucht Christs garments were pure 356 Chap. 14. Of good workes in generall Art 1. VVhether anie worke of a Sinner may be good p. 360 2 VVhether euerie good worke be sinne 362 3 VVhether good works be a sweet smell to God 364 4 VVhether good works be fully good 366 5 VVhether they be iust or iustice in the sight of God 369 6 VVhether in good works there be anie worth 371 7 VVhether eternall life be promised to good works 373 8 VVhether good works be meritorious 374 9 VVhether there may be glorie in good works 376 10 VVhether all good works be equall before God 378 11 VVhether good works be commanded of God 379 12 VVhether they be necessarie to iustification 381 13 VVhether they be necessarie to saluation 384 14 VVhether they be profitable to saluation or iustification 387 15 VVhether they be anie cause of saluation 390 16 VVhether they be a testimonie of iustification or predestination 393 17 VVhether they be a cause of Gods loue towards vs 395 18 VVhether we ought to doe good works 396 19 VVhether they may be done for reward 399 20 VVhether they be to be done for the glorie of God 401 Chap. 15. Of workes in particular Art 1. VVhether it be good not to marrie 406 2 VVhether virginitie be a vertue 406. 3. VVhether the state of virginitie be better then marriage 408 4. VVhether God would haue men to liue single 410 5. VVhether Fasting be a vertue 412. 6. VVhether fasting be a preseruatiue against the Diuel 414. 7. VVhether choice of meats be laudable 415. 8 VVhether we may pray for all 416. 9. VVhether we may pray for the dead 417. 10 VVhether we may pray for that which God hath not promised 419 11. VVhether anie obtaine for the worth of their praier 421. 12. VVhether we may pray in an vnknowne tongue 422. 13. VVhether we be commanded to say our lords praier 423 14. VVhether we may make vows 424 15. VVhether almes deliuer from death and sinne 426 16. VVhether we may giue all to the poore 427 17. VVhether pennance be commanded to all 428 18 VVhether affliction of the bodie be a parte of pennance 429. 19 VVhether pennance of the Niniuites was good 431 20. VVhether Eremitical life be lawfull Chap. 16. Of Sinnes Art 1. VVhether sinnes be imputed to the faithfull 435. 2. VVhether anie sinne be mortall to the Elect and faithfull 437. 3. VVhether onely incredulitie be sinne 438. 4. VVhether sinne ought to be ouercomen of vs 440. 5. VVhether anie that serue the flesh can serue God 441. 6 VVhether by greuous sinnes we fall from grace 442. 7 VVhether sinne can stād with iustice 8. VVhether sinne may be redeemed by good works 447. 9. VVhether to abstaine from great sinnes be necessarie to saluation 448 10. VVhether sinne be the cause of damnation 451. 11. VVhether we must giue account of our sinnes 453. 12. VVhether the iustified commit ill p. 454. 13. VVhether the iustified commit sinne 455. 14 VVhether the iustified euer do sinne wilfully 457. 15 VVhether the widows 1. Tim. 5. did sinne in marrying 458. 16 VVhether vsurie be sinne 459. 17. VVhether all sinned in Adam 460. 18. VVhether there is originall sinne 461. Chap. 17. Of Iustification Art 1. VVhether Iustification be of works 465. 2. VVhether it be of faith onely 467. 3. VVhether the iustified be iust in Gods fight 469. 4. VVhether the iustified be cleane 472 5. VVhether sinne remaine in the iustified 474. 6. VVhether sinnes be simply forgiuen 477. 7. VVhether all the iustified be equally iust 478. 8. VVhether there is anie inherent iustice 478. 9. Whether inherent iustice can be imputed 481. 10. Whether the iustified be infallibly certaine of their iustice 482. 11. Whether pennance goe before iustification 845. 12. Whether iustificatiō can be lost 487. 13. Whether the iustified may feare to fall 489. 14. Whether iustification be proper to the Elect 492. 15. Whether we cooperate to our iustification 493. 16. Whether after iustification anie punishment remaine 496 Chapt. 18. Of life and death euerlasting ART 1. Whether life euerlasting be a reward p. 499. 2. Whether it be a crowne of iustice 501. 3. Whether it be of faith onely 503. 4. Whether all men be to be iudged 505 5. Whether eternall life be to be rendered to anie 506. 6. Whether the soules of the Reprobates doe now suffer in Hell 507. 7. Whether Hell be anie place 509. 8. Whether Hell fire be true fire 510. Chapt. 19. Of Gods law ART 1. Whether Gods law be possible 513. 2. Whether euer anie kept Gods law 515. 3. Whether anie loued God in all the●● heart 517. 4. Whether Gods law be in th● heart of anie 519. 5. Whether we ● 〈◊〉 ● that we may keepe Gods law 520. 6. Whether the keeping of Gods law be necessarie to saluation 521. 7. Whether the law of God be abrogated from the faithfull 522. Chapt. 20. Of mans law and superioritie ART 1. Whether there be anie Superioritie among Christians 526. 2. Whether man can make laws 527. 3. Whether mans law bindeth the conscience 529. Chapt. 21. Of free will ART Whether man be free in indifferent matters 532. 2. Whether man be free in morall matters 534. 3. Whether man cooperate with Gods grace to good 536. Chap. 22. Of mans Soule ART 1. Whether mans Soule be immortall 539. 2. Whether Mans soule be the forme of his bodie 545. 3 Whether there be anie resurrection of the dead 547. THE INDEX OF THE CHAPTERS CONTAINED in the second booke CHAPTER 1. That Protestants contradict the tru● sense of Scripture because i● so manie points they gaynesay the expresse words thereof pag. 549. Chapt. 2. That Protestants confesse they contradict the sense of those words which the Cathol Church long since and manie of themselues now beleiue to be the words of God p. 611. Chapt. 3. That Protestants are forced to vse violence to that parte of Scripture which they receaue p. 615. Chapt. 4. That Protestants ouerthrow all force of the words of Scripture yea contemne and deride them p. 620. Chapt. 5. That Protestants say that words of Scripture which make against them were not spoaken of certaine knowledge p. 630. Chapt. 6. That Protestants saye that manie weightie sayings of the Scripture were not spoaken according to the mynd of the speakers p. 633. Chapt. 7. That Protestants are forced to say that the Scripture speaketh ironically c. p. 640. Chapt. 8. That Protestants are forced to turne the most generall speaches of the Scripture into particulars p. 647. Chapt. 9. That Protestants limitate manie propositions not limitated by the Scripture p. 654. Chapt. 10. That Protestants change manie absolute speaches of Scripture into conditionals p. 665. Chapt. 11. That Protestants change conditionall speaches of Scripture