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A17971 Astrologomania: the madnesse of astrologers. Or An examination of Sir Christopher Heydons booke, intituled A defence of iudiciarie astrologie. Written neere vpon twenty yeares ago, by G.C. And by permission of the author set forth for the vse of such as might happily be misled by the Knights booke. Published by T.V. B. of D. Carleton, George, 1559-1628.; Vicars, Thomas, d. 1638. 1624 (1624) STC 4630; ESTC S107657 76,014 146

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artem_fw-la adhibuerint_fw-la reliqua_fw-la fortunae_fw-la committere_fw-la and_o express_v the_o same_o in_o other_o word_n he_o say_v medici_n dijs_fw-la locum_fw-la daunt_v so_o that_o the_o philosopher_n that_o will_v reduce_v it_o to_o a_o cause_n can_v reduce_v it_o to_o no_o other_o than_o the_o providence_n of_o god_n and_o it_o be_v chance_v only_o in_o respect_n of_o man_n knowledge_n and_o purpose_n otherwise_o there_o be_v no_o chance_n at_o all_o now_o say_v the_o astrologer_n all_o astrological_a prediction_n be_v of_o such_o thing_n which_o be_v in_o chance_n than_o it_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v not_o natural_a neither_o to_o be_v reduce_v to_o a_o natural_a cause_n but_o only_o to_o god_n providence_n by_o this_o astrology_n must_v be_v reduce_v not_o to_o philosophy_n but_o to_o divinity_n if_o it_o be_v a_o explication_n of_o such_o event_n as_o belong_v to_o god_n providence_n then_o must_v you_o tell_v we_o no_o more_o of_o natural_a cause_n but_o teach_v we_o 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