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A00639	A defence of the reasons of the counter-poyson, for maintenance of the eldership against an aunsvvere made to them by Doctor Copequot, in a publike sermon at Pawles Crosse, vpon Psal. 84. 1584. VVherein also according to his demaunde is proued syllogisticallie for the learned, and plainlie for all men, the perpetuitie of the elders office in the church.	Fenner, Dudley, 1558?-1587, attributed name.; Stoughton, William, fl. 1584, attributed name.; Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624, attributed name.	1586 (1586)	STC 10772; ESTC S112582	18,117	32

M. Gualter sayth That there are certaine which would erect a presbiterie they must proue they haue the same giftes as the presbiterie had then Prophesie working of miracles and other giftes written in 1. Cor. Cha. 12. They that do these things are thought to trouble the order of the Church of God and to bring in contention the ciuill Magistrates went to get vnto them selues ecclesiasticall authoritie but this turned into popishe tyrannie There was a little booke printed in the yeare of our Lord 1558. that is called The admonition of Englande and Scotlande you shall finde as much there And if it do● please you agayne to looke into the conclusions of that booke ye shall finde that there is one whiche doeth conclude heauier against Englande then doeth Doctor Sanders The defence THE vvhole vvhich he speaketh of Discipline consisteth in two pointes The one against vs the other A defence of him selfe Where the one is not so false and friuoulouse but the other is as vayne and feeble To begin lett vs see howe he maketh vs charge the Church then his Defence he maketh for it Hee layeth to our charge that we make the Church of Englande but a church secundum quid after a sorte Where that he slaundereth vs in saying we slaūder the Church we proue it by double witnes on our part our wordes and deedes on his part by his owne allegation in this place For our wordes our preaching and writings haue alwayes witnes●ed that we holde the Churche for a true Churche of Christ from which no member may separate him selfe although he must disallowe the wantes in her We haue alwayes when subscription was vrged bin readie to subscribe to the Article of her Maiesties authoritie and to the substance of doctrine in as large a manner as the Statut in that behalfe required This wee haue declared by protestation and by writing not onely to them but to the most honourable Senate of her most Excellent Maiesties priuie Counsell Wee haue by writinge defended the cause of the Church and our Prince as much as they that we say no more From our actions howe many Demonstrations might bee broght to approue our right judgement reuerend account and sincere affection toward the Church of Englande Haue we not yea when we were vniustly against all law of God and man depriued for not subscribing adioyned our selues to the Church in all the actions of the ministerie of the word preached of prayer of the Sacraments Haue we not by perswasions continued many in the bosome of the church yea whē through weaknes because of many abuses they would haue departed Haue wee sought redresse by any other meanes thē by hūble supplication towards our superiours according to dutie Thus our actions approue vs to the church His accusation hath bin heard let vs heare also his witnes which as we said ouerthroweth his accusation He maketh vs to say that as a citie can not stande without walles no more cā a church without Discipline We replie there was neuer any that denied a citie with out a wall to be a citie an orched without defēce to be an orchard a cornefielde without a hedge to be a cornefielde Neither will any manne forsake his citie cast away his corne destroy his vineyard for lacke of a defence Neuerthelesse the wante of these things must be cōplained of in time Behold how his own witnes speaketh for vs. We haue seen how he faineth vs to charge the church mark how wel he defendeth her What maner of defence doth he make not with the Word but with 2. sentences of M. Gualter Is M. Gualter a more holy learned ancient Father then Peter Martir Viret Caluin Beza Bullinger and such other Who by preaching writing other good meanes haue mainteined this cause We acknoledge Gualter to be a shining starr but we make not his glorie like vnto the glorie of God in all those men Howbeit let the strength of his light shine out and it shall not hurt vs but melt away his assertion as waxe and the Bishops authoritie which he maintaineth as pitche For want of Discipline saith he in the first place no man ought to departe from the Churche we confesse it allowe it subscribe vnto it What is the secōd voyce I thinke that the same forme can not be appointed in all nations Lo it is a thought no demonstration Wil you allow his iudgement in this M. Copquot Dare you doo it Shall sweete and sower come out of your mouth in one sermon Haue you not twise or thrise in this sermon made Discipline a note of the Churche in these wordes The notes of the Church are three the first The word of God truly preached The second The right administraetion of the Sacraments The last True Discipline And hauing alleadged Mat. 28.18.19 you say By whiche place of Scripture we may easilie perceiue that these are the true tokens of the Church where the worde is preached The Sacramentes truly ministred and where is true Discipline Now if Discipline be one note of the Church shal it not be the same in all places as touching the substance as is the doctrine Shall there not be a certaine forme of it as S. Paule saith there is of the doctrine your first marke Againe how wil these wordes of Matthew Goe teache all nations baptisinge them that beleeue and teache them to obserue all thinges which I haue commaunded you proue your Diuisions Is it not because all men must not onely be taught and beleeue the doctrine as the first and principal marke nor onely be baptized and vse the Sacraments which is the secōd but also must be taught to obserue all constitutions for elections abdications for the essentiall difference of offices for the censures and spirituall corrections which you call true Discipline the thirde marke Howe then is not this commanded Discipline certaine in nature and forme And is it not cōmanded to al that beleeue and are baptized What thē shall M. Gualters sentence stand yours fall After you haue seene this disagrement of M. Gualter with him selfe beholde how he disagreeth in this sentence with the Bishops and orders which you maintaine In his cōmentarie on the 1. Cor. 5 where he hath the verie wordes you alledge hee saieth That the Ministers haue no Discipline further then rebukes by worde That there must be no Ecclesiasticall suspension from the Sacraments No excommunication Finallie there must be no Discipline but ciuill at the appointement af the Magistrate and that by ciuill persons Will the Bishops allowe this that by the worde of God Ecclesiasticall Gouuernours haue no authoritie to suspende to excommunicate Will our lawes will the Articles of the Conuocation house will the booke of ordayning Bishops Priestes and Deacons stand with this Thus Gualters breathe poysoneth and choketh the Bishops sweete and pure Gouuernement Thus farre his accusation His answere to our reasons followe Where firste I pray the Reader to consider