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B09464	Animadversions on the defence of the answer to a paper, intituled The case of the dissenting Protestants of Ireland, in reference to a bill of indulgence from the exceptions made against it together with an answer to a peaceable & friendly address to the non-conformists written upon their desiring an act of toleration without the sacramental test.	Mac Bride, John.; Pullen, Tobias, 1648-1713. Defence of the ansvver to a paper intituled The case of the dissenting Protestants.	1697 (1697)	Wing M114; ESTC R180238	76,467	116

that by these Intruders are chiefly means Episcopal Ministers thrust out by the Rabble who had repossess'd their own Churches A. This Act was made against allIntruders without exception Presbyterian or others and we suppose thought Rational by all reasonable men for the English Law justifies not a forcible Entry even tho' a Person hath a right And I doubt not but the Church of Engl. would condemn it in her own case for I question if the D. could defend the late Bishop of Down and Connor with the Arch-Deacon who looked on themselves unjustly deprived of Bishopprick and Livings by the late Regal visitation should they re-enter and possess themselves of what they have lost without owning Church or State But we say that those who were rabbled out neither have nor dare intrude into those Churches from which they were rabbled and challengeth him to instance one who hath so done But the truth of the matter is this some of those who were rabbled out in the West and South went to the North and there by the connivance of the Inheritors and some of the Parishioners did intrude into vacant Parishes some also had been deposed by the Church for Immoralities others who were put out of their Benefices by the Counsel for refusing to swear Allegiance to K. William and supported by the Jacobite party did enter into Churches in contempt of both Civil and Ecclesiastical Government Against these this Act was made so that none are counted Intruders meenly for repossessing the Church out of which they were turned by the Rabble seeing that by the Proclamation Aug. 6. 1689. all who had been Rabbled since the Settlement of the Government were restored to their Churches By this the D. as he thinks having proved the Parliament of Scotland guilty of great Severity for making an Act against Intruders concludes undoubtedly the reason of the V's not publishing that Act of Parliament July 16. 1695. not to be what is alledged but his fear of setting matters in a true light and exposing too plainly his gross and willful misrepresentations of the present State of that Kingdom A. We leave it to the Parliament of Ireland whether they will thank him for inveighing against the Parliament of Scotland thus at random when both have the same head and in all these Invectives his Sacred Majesty is reflected on But how ridiculous is it to reason thus The Vindicator durst not publish the Act of July 16. 1695. lest he should have exposed the severity of the Parliament against Intruders when there is nothing in that Act against Intrusion but it is as himself tells us by an Act July 5. 1695. what needs the V. fear the publishing that Act which all allow to be an Act of C●emency we are satisfied the V. had not seen that against which he so much Inveighs Nor needed he fear the publishing that other Act which was in Print yea so far were Dissenters from any sear from that Act that they industriously spread it amongst Members of Parliament here as a good precedent of Moderation The D. having discharg'd his spleen upon the Parliament of Scotland returns upon the Church Government saying by way of mock I must indeed acknowledge that we cannot boast of our coming up to or equal in the example which the present Presbyterian Government in Scotland has set us For first our moderation to Dissenters has not exprest it self in raising of the Rabble against them much less in returning them publick and solemn thanks for the greatness of their Zeal in so doing A. His first instance of this Churches negative moderation to Dissenters contains an unreasonable calumny thrown upon the Presbyterian Government of the Ch. of Scotl. for during the Rabble's Reign there was no legal Government in Church or State And therefore the Church is not chargeable with things done before it was re-established or had power That the Church gave the Rabble publick and solemn Thanks for their Rabbling is false but the truth was this the Prelates of Scotland with the Jacobitish Party headed by the Viscount Dundee having conspired against the Convention of States then assembled at Edenburg to settle the Crown of that Kingdom upon K William and Queen Mary had secretly conveyed 200 and upwards of armed men into the Town in order to scatter the Convention and so defeat the Nations Settlement Hereupon the Gentlemen and Commons of the West being then in Arms came with all expedition to Edinburgh whereupon the Viscount of Dundee with his party immediately fled and entred into an open Rebellion which ended with his Life at Killycrankie These Gentlemen who protected the Convention of Estates till they had established the Government are by him and his Episcopal Brethren in Scotland called the Rabble These indeed received the publick thanks of the Convention of Estates instead of their pay and so went all home peaceably But at this time there could be no Establish't Church seeing there was no Establish't Civil Government 2. That he and his have not raised the Rabble against Dissenters in Ireland we owe not to him or his but to the Rabble if any such be who if once up might possibly turn their rage upon others Yet he and some of his have not failed to incense the Magistrate against Dissenters who have thereupon imploy'd arm'd force against them For notwithstanding all that the Dissenting Ministers had suffered in the North for their Loyalty to Ch. 2. being all banished by Oliver for refusing the Oath called the Tender which many Episcopal Clergy-men easily swallow'd yet upon his Restauration the Prelates stirr'd him up contrary to his inclination to imprison all Dissenting Ministers and so persecute the People for Non-conformity which was accordingly done This the Living Generation can abundantly Testify A Second Evidence of the Churches Moderation to Dissenters he offers is That the Church of England Parliament in this Kingdom has not declared that Non-Conformist Ministers in exercising any part of their Ministerial Function have offer'd a high contempt of the Law as tending to perpetuate Schism and of dangerous consequence A. Seeing as he saith The Church of England Parliament hath not declared Non-Conformist Ministers contemners of the Law in exercising any part of their Ministry How cometh it to pass that the Church of England Clergy daily declare them guilty of offering high contempt to the Law As being Schismaticks that the exercise of their Ministry is of dangerous consequence We have cause to thank the Church of England Parliament for their Justice and Moderation but neither of us have reason to thank the Clergy for declaring the contrary And tho we may be satisfied with this Confession that there is no Act of Parliament against us vet we have cause to fear he will retract else he hath labour'd in vain in this Pamphlet The third Instance given of the Churches Moderation to us is They have not made an Act of Parliament against ut making Non-Conforming Ministers Intruders altho

true he Petition'd the Assembly who referr'd his Case to the Presbyteries of Lanerk and Hamilton where he had formerly been officiated but was by them rejected for his Immoralities which himself knows and all have cause to believe seeing Bishop Foley late Bishop of Down and Connor did for gross Immoralities fully proven against him deprive him of his Curacy he had got in the Parish of Dunean in the County of Antrim So that if he was barbarorsly robbed by Presbiterians in Scotland he has met with as little mercy from his Brethren in Ireland as the Records of the Diocess of Connor can testify His third Exception to these Gentlemens Letter is to these words in it viz. So far are they in Scotland from exercising severities against men for being Episcopal in their Judgment that a great part of the Ministers of that Kingdom who injoyed not only the Protection of the Government but the free and Publick Exercise of their Ministry together with the legal Established maintenance before the first of September last were or professed to be of the Episcopal Perswasion and had not at that time so much as taken the Oath of Allegiance to his Majesty and yet of these no more is required for their continuance in their Parishes than that they take the said Oath of Allegiance and Assurance and that they behave themselves worthily in Doctrine Life and Conversation as appears by the Act of Parliament past July 16. 1695. Before the D. can answer this he throws himself into a paraxism of astonishment at those who pretending to be more then ordinary strict and holy Ministers of Jesus Christ and the most faithful Servants of the God of truth that they can allow themselves the liberty of willfully misrepresenting the most notorious matters of Fact and the plainest State of publick Affairs and flatly contrary to truth and the mind of the writer of which he offers to prove the V. scandalously guilty But had he rightly pitcht on the guilty and as truly confest his own fault as he fa●sly accuseth the V. he might have deserv'd compassion to cry out against those Sins in others which we nourish in our own Bosoms is hypocrisie But in answer to these words he first concedeth a matter of Fact viz. That the Episcopal Clergy in Scotland have enjoyed the free Exercise of their Religion and quiet possession of their Parishes c. which indeed many in the North yet do But saith he 1. These Instances are but seeming favours 2. They be produc'd as arguments of the moderation of the Presbyterian Government whereas they are nothing else but the effect of the weakness of the Party A. If the Protection of the Government in the free and publick Exercise of Religion with the Legally establisht maintenance be but seeming favours Let the Dissenters here have only such seeming favours and we shall promise in their name real thanks for the same But 2. He might have own'd them real favours had he consider'd on whom they were confer'd even the Abetters of Viscount Dundee's Rebellion For by his silence to the third Paragraph of that Letter viz. That at the Abetters of Viscount Dundee's Rebellion were or pretended to be of the Episcopal perswasion as have also all those that have made any Publick Commotion in that Kingdom since this happy Revolution he tacitly confesseth the truth thereof But thirdly that these favours were the effects only of the Presbyterian parties weakness will not be so easily believed by considering men for why should the Party be able to destroy the Root the Bishops and their prelacy and yet not be able to Lop off the Branches is improbable These sure who could extirpate prelacy in the North had Power to drive out Curacy there too But to make it evident that it was not the effect of weakness but their moderation they have now driven out all that rebellious brood who had contemn'd the King's Clemency and Churches moderation Yet farther had the Church of that Kingdom been weak the State was not but could easily extirpate them for he is mightily mistaken of Scotland if he thinks that many of that People would be Martyrs for Prelacy That the Episcopal Party in the North are a formidable Party and therefore kept it depends on the Credit of his Informers for were they such as he saith they 're neither stout nor kind in suffering their Reverend Fathers to be laid aside Why might not the Children who were able to secure themselves being so formidable been willing also to defend and continue their Fathers Yet his reason to prove them a formidable party viz. That part of Scotland on the North of Tay is known to be little less than the half of the Kingdom is not very formidable for if the Highlands and Isles of Scotland be comprehended in this his Geography may hold good but his reason 's lame for he will have little Credit of many of the Episcopal Highlanders who possess more Land than Religion And that the Episcopal Party there is eleven to one depends on the veracity of his Informers who we see are no friends to his Reputation and will at last cause him to turn Bankrupt of it if he continue to give such Left-handed News-mongers such Credit For deduce from the number Papists the most of whom are in the North he must abate of the proportion for in the Shires of Sutherland Stranaver Ross and Murray there might be and hath been a force which was a terror to it's Enemies raised to defend the Settlement of State and Church Besides all this considerable numbers are in every part of that Country and these as strict as any in Scotland by which we see he 's little acquainted with the State of that part of the Kingdom These favors then werenot the effect of weakness but the genuine supple fruit of the Clemency and Moderation of that Church which by long experience of the evil of oppression which is apt to make wise men mad are resolved upon it as the surest method to secure themselves and indeed their moderation is that which now is become most formidable to their wisest Enemies and the true cause why not the same moderation but distinct courses were taken with the Episcopal C●ergy in the North and in the West is because the Ministers in the North were generally men of better Learning and Lives and less concern'd in these Cruelties and Oppressions by which the West was harassed and so having done less harm were more favoured while those in the West met with Adonibezek's Reward Now from all this let the Reader judge if the D. had just cause for his so rash judging the Vindicator His 2. Reason to prove the V. scandalously guilty of Disingenuity and representing things contrary to Truth and his certain knowledge is that there are no Acts of Parliament in favour of the Episcopal Clergy save that of July 16. 1695. And therefore leaves it to the Reader to judge what sort of usage

they be really such into Parishes A. If the Law doth not make Non-Conforming Ministers Intruders by what Law doth he call them so The Law of the Land he vindicates from this Aspersion and we are sure the Law of God layeth no such crime to our charge For Ministers duly qualified and by the unanimous consent of a Christian People elected and call'd to be their Ministers are not intruders tho' their Election be not ratisy'd by the Civil Sanction else all the Ministers of the Gospel for the first 300 years of Christianity had been Intruders That a Christian People have power to Elect and call their own Ministers is according to the Primitive Patern Cyprian's Rule Lib. 1. Ep. 4. is consonant to Scripture viz. Plebs ipsa potestatem habet vel eligendi dig nos sacerdotes vel indig nos recusandi And even in Rome it self in Pope Leo's time it was a Rule Qui prae futurus est omnibus ab omnibus Elegatur And such we are able to make appear our Election to the Ministry to be 2. Nor hath the Parl. of Scotland made any Act against intruding into Parishes but against intruding into Churches and seizing upon Manses and Glebs which if N. C's here had done it 's possible they had both heard and felt that there are Acts of Parl. against such intruders The fourth instance of Moderation is that the Establish'd Church hath not forbid these Dissenters whom the Calamities of the late times had driven away to return and perform any Ministerial Acts in the places where formerly they held their Conventicles for want of a Legal Call A. Had Dissenters as obstinately refused to swear Allegiance to K. W. and Q. M. as his Episcopal Brethren did in Scotland we shou'd have had as little favour as the Non-jurant Clergy there have had and justly deserv'd it But why the Government of Scotland only shou'd be condemn'd for severity when both in England and Ireland the Non-jurant Bishops and Clergy have met with the same measure and yet he dates not tax the Government here or in England of severity upon that account so that he is either grosly impartial or a Jacobite in heart tho' he appear for King William The Fifth Instance of Moderation is That they have not here authorized or required the Mayors of Corporations and Justices of the Peace to remove all those who have intruded or shall intrude as they have done in Scotland A. If the Civil Magistrate were subject to the Authority of the Church we have cause to be confident of being otherwise dealt with than at present we are God be blessed for it We think he deserves a fee if he 'll make good that Dissenters may without counter acting Acts of Parl. enter and possess Churches and Tythes but then why makes he such a hideous out-cry against the Minister of Letterkenny for his intrusion His Sixth and last Instance of Moderation exceeding that of Scotland is that they have not ordered Writs of Rebellion against Dissenting Ministers in order to the removing them out of Parishes where they live and making them desist from exercising Ministerial Acts. A. For all this boasted of Moderation the time was when there were Writs out against all the Dissenting Ministers to apprehend them whereupon many were apprehended and imprison'd which is well known And we owe but little thanks to Church-men for the mercy we now enjoy But by this he insinuates that the Episcopal Clergy are by Writs and Capias's driven from living in any Parishes in Scotland which is a Calumny and by it we may see how safe his Majesty's Government is like to be under such Directors of Conscience who labour to possess his Subjects against him and his Government as cruel and severe notwithstanding all the Clemency he has us'd to such as are declar'd Enemies to his Authority The D. having triumph'd in the victory of the Establish't Church of Ireland over that of Scotland in point of Moderation seems to be mov'd with a Prophetick Spirit to ●orete●l that in case such Revolution of Church Affairs should happen in this Kingdom as hath lately been in Scotland the V. and his Adherents would imitate the Presbyterians in Scotland and make the Episcopal Clergy desist from exercising any Ministerial Acts and Issue out Writs of Rebellion against them A. Either he fears what he supposeth will come to pass or not If he doth really fear such Revolution then we think 't were his wisdom to be preparing an Ark for saving himself and houshold tho it be no policy to declare his fears seeing thereby he incourageth Dissenters and weakens the hands of his Friends by representing us as a formidable party But if he believes no probability of what he supposeth he needs not trouble us or his party with such Prophecies for if he were not conscious to himself that he had deserved ill of Dissenters he would not fear ill from them To make his Prophecy probable he tells us that the Professors in Colleges of Scotland felt the rigor of the Presbyterian Visitation which he calls by the odious name of Inquisition practised upon the Professor of the College of Edinburgh in Aug. and Sept. 1690. according to an Act passed the 4th of July 1690. By which it is ordered that no Minister or Professor in any College or School shall be allowed to continue in the Exercise of his Function but such as shall subscribe to the Confession of Faith ratify'd by this present Parliament and submit to the Government of the Church now Establisht by Law A. To stigmatize the Visitors of the University's acting by his Majesty's Commission and Parliamentary Authority with the odious name of Inquisitors and the Visitation with the name of Inquisition doth palpably insinuate that tho the Heroick Ancestors of our King did drive the Inquisition out of the Netherlands yet he and his Queen have brought it into Scotland And tho he will swear he intended no such ●●flection on his Majesty yet it 's too apparent he would make him and these acting by Authority under him successors to St. Dominick 2. He falsely attributes to the Church the Act of the State 3. When he wou'd prove a removal of Persons Episcopal from Civil Employments he instances in Professors of Divinity which are not esteem'd Civil Employments in Scotland 4. The ground of their removal was their refusing to swear Allegiance to K. W. and Q M. and the reason they gave for their refusal was that they were not crown'd K. and Q. of Scotland tho' they made no such scruple of swearing to K. James whether or no by justifying them in this he partake with them in their evil deeds let all Men judge 5. It 's highly hypocritical to rail at that as Sin in others which we applaud in ourselves as a Vertue for what more criminal is it in the Church of Scotland to oblige its Professors of Divinity to subscribe its legally Establish'd Doctrin and to submit to its