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A39287 Some observations upon the Answer to an enquiry into the grounds & occasions of the contempt of the clergy, with some additions in a second letter to R. L. / by the same author. Eachard, John, 1636?-1697. 1671 (1671) Wing E60; ESTC R821 82,238 210

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thing that the Answerer has a great mind that I should say because he can contradict it seeing that I had said several times in my Letter as also in the Preface that I would propound nothing as near as I could but what was hopeful and practicable Which thing if he had been at leisure to have minded he need not then have held up his hands so high and repeat it ten or twelve tim●…s with such wonderment that I should refer all to Poverty and Ignorance I am very loth Sir to go about to abate the Answerer's prizing himself for discovering so many other several occasions of the Contempt of the Clergy besides those which I mentioned but I perceive he seems mightily concern'd as you know Sir one Friend cannot but be for another that I should be so lamentably mistaken as to say that whatever lessen the val●… of the Clergy or render it less serviceable to the world than might be reasonably hoped may be all referred to Ignorance and Poverty For says he p. 7. The Occasions of the Contempt of the Clergy are not only on our part Ignorance and Poverty Again p. 18. You had said enough says he if our Ignorance and Poverty had been only some or the main of those things that lessen our value and ●…ot the only things And p. 22. Wheresore again somewhat else is sometimes the occasion of the Contempt of the Clergy And p. 23. I wish says he you had not said Wh●…tever lessen the value c. So that I perceive if I had said that Poverty and Ignorance had been some of the Causes or the main or chief occasion or the like it had passed well e●…ough I might possibly have had the Gentlemans Daughter but to say they are the only that there is ●…othing besides to put in that stabbing word whatever it was an unkind and unfriendly Expression Truly Sir you know pretty well my temper and I believe would vouch for me that I had no malice in my heart when I said Whatever But I much wonder that the Answerer who did so often and solicitously wish that that same offensive word Whatever had been left out should overlook those others that are in the same Sentence viz. than might be reasonably hoped or if he did not what did he think they meant he may believe me that those words were not put in by chance and being slow to confess now made use of to deliver me from a dreadful Mistake But I intended thereby to signifie two things first That ●… would enquire into such causes and grounds as might be reasonable and proper for me to enquire into and not into such things as were already taken care of by the Laws of the Realm or Canons and Constitutions of our Church as was before hinted And had we an Act of Parliament that were in as good force against the Poverty of the Clergy which a worthy and very learned Author in a late Treatise tell us H. Th. might be so ordered as it might not be very grievous to the Subject as against the forreign and domestick enemies of our Church I had left out that as well as those many other causes which the Answerer thinks fit to mention But indeed as to that other business of want of Learning that would scarce be easily remedied by a Vote of the House except it were extraordinary full Another thing that I intended by those words was that I would meddle with nothing that was almost impossible to be wholly avoided and therefore at that time I did not think it convenient though perhaps afterward I may to tell the people that there are a great many very wicked ones in the world and always will be Such I mean who defying Heaven and even God himself it is no wonder that they are not sparing to a Clergy-man although he has a very large Parsonage and although he has all those same Books that the Answerrer says p. 46. he has heard of nay though he be one of his neighbouring Doctors with his ratling Coach For we have those that can curse and swear as loud as that can rattle and rumble let the road be never so uneven and the Coachman drive never so hard and so they will so long as they give themselves up to the Devil But I thought it not fit to write a Letter to Him to chain up his busie spirits of darkness from intermedling with affairs on Earth nor to insert him for one Ground or Occasion of the Contempt of the Clergy But this I think may conveniently be said that whatever number we have of those that are despisers not only of the Clergy but of all that is good and that were I to write my first Letter again I cannot by the blessing of God think of any more proper way either to recover them from perpetual ruine or to abate their infecting of others than with all earnestness to wish that their might be dayly additions of such to our Worthy Clergy whose Counsel Value and Example might win them by degrees into some sense of Religion and better opinion of those that are more peculiarly the Maintainers of the same I know there be some who having a great mind to dislike something or other think they have made a considerable Objection against what I writ before by saying that I was very silent as to the carriage and conversation of the Clergy which may be pattly true and yet no great omission because I thought with my self that if there were any want of advice and exhortation to the Clergy it might be more proper to be performed by such as had Authority over them and power to mind them of Ecclesiastical censures but for my part I know very little Service that I could do in that kind unless I should have rid up and down the Country and turned Parrettor or Informer and so bring in a Roll of such as are idle and negligent in their Profession An employment I must con●…ess that I do not much approve of but shall leave it to the ready and listning Nonconformists whose ill will to the present establishment of the Church would make them very glad of the office and I am confident they would bring in a very fine bill since St. Bartholömew the famous if they were but entrusted with the contriving of it And perhaps this may in part satisfy what the Answerer thought he said against me p. 10. viz. that Integrity together with Learning and an Estate is more considerable than either of them or both together Yes truely that it is by above ten in the hundr●…d But yet for all that he need not to think that supposing the great Tithes should be bestowed upon a Vicar that he should presently fall to breaking all the Commandements and saying the Creed backwards for that it is or at least must be his meaning if he intended to gainsay what I had written that is that Learning and a good convenient Estate are