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An answer by an Anabaptist to the three considerations proposed to Mr. William Penn, by a pretended Baptists, concerning a magna charta for liberty of conscience.
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1688
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An Answer BY AN ANABAPTIST TO THE Three Considerations Proposed to Mr William Penn By a pretended BAPTIST CONCERNING A MAGNA CHARTA FOR Liberty of Conscience Allowed to be Published this 10th Day of September 1688. LONDON Printed and Sold by Andrew Sowle at the Three Keys in Nags-Head-Court in Grace-Church-Street over-against the Conduit 1688. An Answer BY AN ANABAPTIST TO THE Three Considerations c. YOU desire All your Dissenting Brethren to Consider and then Answer ãâã have Consider'd but I cannot tell âther you suppose all Dissenters are ãâã Brethren or that all are your ââhren who dissent from you If first It seems probable to me you have been either Educated in âange Soyl or have forgotten ãâã Brothers Dialect so that I canââ discern that you are any otherââ a Baptist then only in Masquerade therefore am shy of owning the ââtion But if all that dissent ãâã you must therefore be reckon'd ãâã Brethren then I am in that ââber and because I think Mr Penn not have so much leisure as my at present to attend upon your ââes I intend to be in the first Rank your Respondents I consider also that though you have proposed but Three Considerations yet you have bolted out a Mulitude of Questions which administer an occasion for as many more to be retorted To your first Question Then What Validity or Security can any pretended or designed future New Law or Charter have when we see so many of the present Laws we already have may be and are by the Dispensing Power Dispensed with So many of the present Laws The Grievance then with you may lie rather in the Number than in the Dispensing Power His Majesty might with your leave perhaps have dispensed with some Persons and some Penalties too but not with so many altogether One would think by that you would not have Quarrel'd at the Dispensing Fower tho the Act for levying Twelve Pence a Week had never been Prosecuted so as the Twenty Pound a Month had been Levied nor if the Conventicle Act had been Dispensed with so as the Thirty fifth of Queen Elizabeth had been rigorously Executed I cannot tell how many but all the Laws that are Dispensed with are Penal Laws of a like nature for matters Ecclesiastical Uniformity Sacraments Oaths and Tests are the Subject of them all If this be your Grief you must be either a Conforming Baptist or such a strange sort of a Baptist as in my Forty Years Conversation among them I have never met with But to come more close to your Question What Validity can a New Law have seeing so many of these we have already are Dispensed with I Answer with a like Interrogation I grant that the King may do what his Royal Pleasure is with his own Does it thereupon follow that He may do so likewise with what is mine If I acckowledge and thankfully accept His Dispensing with a Penalty to which I am Obnoxious because I take a Liberty in matters of meer Religion which I am not allowed by Statute Laws Is it of necessry consequence that I therein acknowledge He may also impose a Fine upon me for lawfully using a Liberty when granted to me by Law It s hoped the designed New Charter for Repeal of such Penal Laws as are inconsistant with the Doctrines of Christianity will according to His Majesties Declaration both maintain the National Religion as it is now ãâã stablished by Law and provides ãâã such a Christian Liberty as may sâ Ease and Secure the Consciences Pââsons and Properties of all that ãâã Live Soberly Righteously and God in this present Age whether they ãâã Conformists or Non-conformists ãâã the National Religion And a Gâââ remains valid tho a Penalty may ãâã dispensed with But what if the New Law ãâã have no more Validity or Secâââ then these Old Ones that are Dâââsed with The Dissenters will ãâã be in so much a better Case by a New Law as that they will then be Seâââ by Law whereas till that be done ãâã are always subject to be Ruin'd ãâã colour of Law. But why are you Querulous at the Dispensing Poââ in this particular case wherein it Exercised The King declares his Opinion That Conscience ought not ãâã constrained nor People forced in mâââ of meer Religion This Principle the ground of his Dispensation Hââ you not lately observed Tâât dââ Gentlemen who being in Commâââ would not Execute these âârâ Lâââ and were therefore for a sâasââ ãâã aside are now returned again ãâã their former Stations with Râââon and the Love of their âââbours Have you not Reââ the Apââlogy for the Church of England ãâã relation to the Spirit of Persââââ for which she is accused How ãâã former Errors are extâââed by ãâã stances pag. 4. That âho tââ ãâã Parliament of the Church of ãâã did not perform what ãâ¦ã mised by some Leading Mâââ ââters in procuring them a Bill of yet there was little or nothing against them for about Nine ãâã but they had their Meetings alââ as publickly as regularly as the âââh of England had their Churches ââou not remember a Vote of the ãâã of Commons in 1680. whereby it Resolved That the Prosecution of ââstant Dissenters upon the Penal ãâã was at that time Grievous to the âââct ââall the Justices that did not Exeâââ these Laws gain Esteem by it the Church of England excuse her from the charge of Severity by not Executing these Laws for ãâã Years together Shall the Comâââ in Parliament Vote the Execution ââem a Grievance And may not King extend his Compassion toââds his Dissenting Subjects and say shall not be Executed To make a signal Act of Grace the ground groundless Jealousie and cause Contention to say no worse of it ââghly Disingenuous and discovers âââry froward and perverse Dispoâân But let us consider your next ãâã of Questions Have we or can we have any higher ââer here in England then King ââds and Commons in Parliament Asââled The Laws that are now Dispenâââ with and rendred useless were they made by that Power Can your New âârter be made by any higher or other ââer Do you think there is any Tempoââ Spiritual Power here in England aâââ the Dispensing Power And can you ãâã it appear to us To these Questiâââ you desire Mr Penn would let his Brethren and you know his Mind honestly In his stead I Answer We have no Law Makers but King Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled but yet we are in England as well as in other parts of the World under a Law to God and thereby each Man is obliged to preserve within his own Breast the Answer of a good Conscience from which no Law of King Lords and Commons can absolve him and hence it is that we have many Fundamental Maximes of Law grounded upon the Law of God and common Reason of Mankind as well respecting the Soveraigns Prerogative as the Right of the Subject not written in Acts of Parliament but in