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A75552	The arguments upon the writ of habeas corpus, in the Court of Kings Bench. Wherein, are learnedly discussed, not onely the severall branches of the said writ, but also many authorities as well of the common as statute law: and divers ancient and obscure records most amply and elaborately debated and cleared. Together, with the opinion of the court thereupon. Whereunto is annexed, the petition of Sir Iohn Elliot Knight, in behalf of the liberty of the subject.	Eliot, John, Sir, 1592-1632.; England and Wales. Court of King's Bench.	1649 (1649)	Wing A3649; Thomason E543_1; ESTC R204808	64,168	98

the same by whomsoever he be committed so ought the cause of his imprisonment to be shewn upon the return so that the Court may adjudge of the cause whether the cause of the imprisonment be lawfull or not and because I will not trouble the Court with so many presidents but such as shall suit with the cause in question I will onely produce and vouch such presidents whereas the party was committed either by the commandment of the King or otherwi●e by the commandment of the Privy Councell which Stampford fol. 72. tearmeth the mouth of the King such Acts as are done by the Privy Councell being as Acts done by the King himself And in all these causes you shall finde that there is a cause returned as well as a speciale mandatum domini Regis c. or mardatum Privati Concilii domini Regis whereby the Court may adjudge of the cause and bail them if they shall see cause In the eighth of Henry the seventh upon return of an Habeas corpus awarded for the body of one Roger Sherry it appeareth that he was committed by the Mayor of Windsor for suspition of felony and ad sectam ipsius Regis pro quibusdam feloniis et transgressionibus ac per mandatum domini Regis 21 Hen. the seventh upon the return of an Habeas corpus sent for the body of Hugh Pain it appeared that he was committed to prison per mandatum dominorum Privati Concilii domini Regis pro suspicione feloniae Primo Henrici Octavi Rot. 9. upon the return of an Habeas corpus sent for the body of one Thomas Harrison and others it appears that they were committed to the Earl of Shrewsbury being Marshall of the houshold Per mandatum domini Regis et pro suspicione feloniae et pro homicidio facto super Mare 3 4 Philip. et Mariae upon a return of an Habeas corpus sent for the body of one Peter Man it appeareth that he was committed pro suspicione feloniae ac per mandatum domini Regis et Reginae 4 5 Philippi et Mariae upon the return of an Habeas corpus sent for the body of one Thomas Newport it appeared that he was committed to the Tower pro suspicione contrafact mcnetae per privatum Concilium domini Regis et Reginae 33 Elizabeth●… upon the return of an Habeas corpus for the body of one Lawrence Brown it appeareth that he was committed Per mandatum Privati Consilii dominae Reginae pro diversis ●ausis ipsam Reginam tangen ac etiam pro suspicione proditicnis So as by all these presidents it appeareth where the returne is either Per mandatum domini Regis or Per mandatum dominerum Privati Concilii domini Regis there is also a cause over and besides the mandatum returned as unto that which may be objected that per mandatum domini Regis or Privati Concilii domini Regis is a good return of his imprisonment I answer First that there is a cause for it is not to be presumed that the King or Councell would commit one to prison without some offence and therefore this mandatum being occasioned by the offence or fault the offence or fault must be the cause and not the command of the King or Councell which is occasioned by the cause Secondly it appears that the jurisdiction of the Privy Councell is a limited jurisdiction for they have no power in all causes their power being restrained in certain causes by severall Acts of Parliament Vide 4 Instit fol. 53. as it appeareth by the statute of 20 Edward the third c. 11. 25 Ed. the third c. 1. stat 4. the private petition in Parliament permitted in the 1 of R. 2. where the Commons petition that the Privy Councell might not make any Ordinance against the Common Law Customes or Statutes of the Realm the fourth of Henry the fourth ca. 3. 13 Hen. the fourth 7. 31 H. the sixth and their jurisdictions being a limited jurisdiction the cause and grounds of their commitment ought to appear whereby it may appear if the Lords of the Councell did commit him for such a cause as was within their jurisdiction for if they did command me to be committed to prison for a cause whereof they had not jurisdiction the Court ought to discharge me of this imprisonment and howsoever the King is Vicarius Dei in terra yet Bracton cap. 8. fol. 107. saith quod nihil aliud potest Rex in terris cum sit Minister Dei Vicarius quam solum quod de jure potest nec obstat quod dicitur quod Principi placet legis habet vigorem quia sequitur in fine legis cum lege Regia quae de ejus imperio lata est id est non quicquid de voluntate Regis temere praesumptum est sed animo condendi Jura sed quod consilio Magistratuum suorum Rege author praestant et habita super hoc deliberatione et tract rect fuer definit Potestat itaque suajuris est non injuriae The which being so then also it ought to appear upon what cause the King committeth one to prison whereby the Judges which are indifferent between the King and his Subjects may judge whether his commitment be against the Laws and Statutes of this Realm or not Thirdly it is to be observed that the Kings command by his Writ of Habeas Corpus is since the commandment of the King for his commitment and this being the latter commandement ought to be obeyed wherefore that commanding a return of the body cum causa detentionis there must be a return of some other cause then Per mandatum domini Regis the same commandment being before the return of the Writ Pasch 9 E. 3. pl. 30. fol. 56. upon a Writ of Cessavit brought in the County of Northumberland the Defendants plead That by reason the Country being destroyed by Wars with the Scots King Edward the second gave command that no Writ of Cessavit should be brought during the Wars with Scotland and that the King had sent his Writ to surcease the Plea and he averreth that the Wars with Scotland did continue Hearle that giveth the Rule saith That we have command by the King that now is to hold this Plea wherefore we will not surcease for any Writ of the King that is dead and so upon all these reasons and presidents formerly alledged I conclude that the return that Sir John Corbet was committed and detained in prison Per speciale mandatum domini Regis without shewing the nature of the commandement by which the Court may judge whether the commandement be of such a nature as he ought to be detained in prison and that without shewing the cause upon which the commandement of the King is grounded is not good As unto the second part which is Whether the time of the commitment by the return of the Writ not appearing unto the Court the Court ought to detain him in

Lord I say that if it had all been left out and he had onely said Detentus fuit per speciale mandatum domini Regis it had been sufficient but when he doth more it is superfluous and not necessary for it appeared before by whom he was committed and when he returns the Warrant of the Lords of the Councell it is not their words that commit him but they being the Representative Body of the King they doe expresse what the Kings command is but they signifie nothing of their own and therefore I desire your Lordship to deliver your opinion in that point of the Return whether it be positive or no. This cause as it greatly concerns the Subjects so it much concerns the King too I am sorry there should be any occasion to bring these things in question but since it is now here I hope I shall give satisfaction to your Lordship and to the parties too and I desire that I may have Munday for it Hide Chief Justice I think it is not best for us to declare our opinions by peece-meals but upon all the case together and as well as you are a stranger to the Return so are we and there be many presidents and Acts of Parliament not printed which we must see Doderidge This is the greatest cause that ever I know in this Court our Judgements that we give between party and party between the King and the meanest Subject ought to be maturely advised on for so are the entries of our judgements Quod matura deliberatione habita It was judged c. And we must see the presidents and Acts of Parliament that we hear mentioned Justice Jones Master Atturney if it be so that the Law of Magna Charta and other Statutes be now in force and the gentlemen be not delivered by this Court how shall they be delivered apply your self to shew us any other way to deliver them Doderidge Yea or else they shall have a perpetuall imprisonment Per Curiam Munday was appointed for the Atturneys Argument and in the interim the Councell for the gentlemen were by order appointed for to attend the Judges with all the presidents and unprinted Statutes which they mentioned and that they should let the Atturney see them also And the gentlemen being asked if they desired to come again answered they did and a Rule was entred for it On Munday the 27 of Tertio Michaelis 3º Caroli Regis in Banco Regis Sir John Corbet Sir Walter Earle Sir Edmund Hampden and Sir John Henningham Knights were brought to the Barre Heath Atturney Generall MAY it please your Lordship these gentlemen Sir Walter Earle Sir John Corbet Sir Edmund Hampden and Sir John Henningham upon their motion to this Court to have their Habeas Corpus and that themselves and the cause of their detaining them in their severall Prisons might be brought before your Lordship had it granted to them My Lord at the first motion of it the knowledge thereof of comming and that they had such a desire his Majesty was very willing to grant unto them as to all his Subjects this common case of Justice and though it be a case which concerns himself in a high degree yet he hath been so gracious and so just as not to refuse to leave the examination and determination thereof to the Laws of this Kingdome My Lord it is very true that this is a very great Cause and hath raised a great expectation and for the manner of it more then was necessary but my Lord I am afraid these gentlemen whom it concerns have rather advised their Councell then their Councell them but I shall take the case as now I finde it and as the gentlemens Councell on the other side have led me the way to it My Lord the exceptions that have been taken by the Councell on the other side to the Return made by the Warden of the Fleet and the rest of the Guardians of severall Prisons have been two for renewing of your Lordships memory we will read one of the Returns they are all alike Then the Return was read for Sir John Henningham by Master Keeling Heath Atturney May it please your Lordship against this Return the Councell of the Gentlemen have taken some exceptions and have divided their objections into two main points The one the form the other the matter To the form they have objected four severall things First that the Return is not positive but referred to the signification made by another as the Lords of the Councell Secondly that the Keepers of the Prisons have not returned the cause of the commitment but the cause of the cause which is not good Thirdly that the Return is imperfect for that it shews onely the cause of the detaining in Prison and not the cause of the first commitment And lastly that the Return is contradictory in it self for that in the first part thereof there is a certification that the detaining of these gentlemen in prison is Per speciale mandatum domini Regis and when the Warrant of the Lords of the Councell is shewed it appears that the commitment is by the command of the King signified by the Lords of the Councell and by your Lordships favour I will give a severall answer to every of these severall objections And for the first that the Return is not positive and affirmative but depends upon and hath relation to some other and therefore it is not good I doe agree that the ground is true that if the Return be not positive it is not good we differ onely in the Minor That the Return is not positive and affirmative for I agree that these Book cases that have been put are good Law as 27 Ass pl. 65. that if the Sheriffe return that he hath sent to the Bailiffe of the hundred and he gives him that answer that is no good Return for the Sheriffs ought to make the Return as of his own act without naming of the Bailiffe of the Hundred in his Return for if he return Quod mandavi Ballivo itineranti qui habet Retorn omnium Brevium executionem eorund per Cartam domini Regis qui mihi dedit nullum Responsum this is not good if he were not Bailiffe of a Franchise or Signiory for so is 21 H. 7. fol. 4. There hath been cited to maintain these objections 20 Ed. 3. the Record I have perused and there I finde that the Bishop said that it is found in Archivis in the Record c. that he was excommunicated but it was found to be in Archivis c. and that is no positive return that it is so I will oppugne what hath been said by the Councell on the other side it must be granted that if the return here be not positive it is imperfect and in 5 H. 7. 28. it is said that an imperfect return is no return at all it is all one but if the return was so that was not much materiall for then it were

Domini Regis mihi nunciatum per Robertum Pecke now our case is by the Nunciation of many but in Law majus minus non variant in spetione the certification of one and of many is of the same effect although in morall understanding there may bee a difference Trin. 2 Ed. 3. Rot. 46. in this Court in 21 Ed. 3. in the printed Book there is a peece of it The Abbot of Burey brings a prohibition out of this Court the Bishop of Norwich pleadeth in Bar of that Quod mihi testificatum quod continetur in Archivis that he is excommunicated there were two exceptions taken to this case in this president and they are both in one case the first was that no case appeareth why he was excommunicated there may be causes why he should be excommunicated and then he should be barred and there may be causes why the excommunication should not barre him for it may be the excommunication was for bringing the action which was the Kings writ and therefore because there was no cause of the excommunication returned it was ruled that it was not good The other reason is that upon the Roll which is mihi testificatum Now every man when he will make a Certificate to the Court Proprium factum suum non alterius significare debet he must inform the Court of the immediate act done and not that such things are told him or that such things are signified unto him but that was not done in this case and therefore it was held insufficient and so in this case of ours I conceive the return is insufficient in the form there is another cause my Lord for which I conceive this return is not good But first I will be bold to inform your Lordship touching the Statute of Magna Charta 29. Nullus liber homo capiatur vel imprisonetur c. nec super eum mittimus nisi per legale judicium parium suorum vel per legem terrae That in this Statute these words in Carcerem are omitted out of the printed Books for it should be nec eum in Carcerem mittimus For these words per legem terrae what Lex terrae should be I will not take upon me to expound otherwise then I finde them to be expounded by Acts of Parliament and this is that they are understood to be the processe of the Law sometimes by writ sometimes by attachment of the person but whether speciale mandatum Domini Regis be intended by that or no I leave it to your Lordships exposition upon two petitions of the Commons and answer of the King in 36 Ed. 3. n o 9. and n o 20. In the first of them the Commons complain that the great Charter the Charter of the Forest and other Statutes were broken and they desire that for the good of himselfe and of his people they might be kept and put in execution and that they might not be infringed by making an arrest by speciall command or otherwise and the answer was that the assent of the Lords established and ordained that the said Charter and other Statutes should be put in execution according to the petition and that is without any disturbance by arrest by speciall command or otherwise for it was granted as it was petitioned In the same year for they were very carefull of this matter and it was necessary it should be so for it was then an usuall thing to take men by writs quibusdam de causis and many of these words caused many Acts of Parliament and it may be some of these writs may be shewn and I say in the same year they complained that men were imprisoned by speciall command and without indictment or other legall course of Law and they desired that thing may not be done upon men by speciall command against the great Charter The King makes answer that he is well pleased therewith that was the first answer and for the future he hath added farther if any man be grieved let him complain and right shall be done unto him This my Lord is an explanation of the great Charter as also the Statute of 37 Ed. 3. ch 18. is a Commentary upon it that men should not be committed upon suggestion made to the King without due proofs of Law against them and so it is enacted twice in one year Wee finde more printed Bookes as in Henry the sixth Mius de fiacts Fitz. 182. which is a strong case under favour in an action of Trespasse for cutting down trees the defendant saith that the place where the trees are cut is parcell of the Manor of B whereof the King is seised in fee and that the King did command him to cut them and the opinion of the Court was that this was no good plea without shewing the specialty of the command and they said if the King command me to arrest a man and I arrest him he shall have an action of false imprisonment against me although it were done in the Kings presence In 1 Ioh. cap. 7. fol. 46. it is in print and there we leave it Hussey Chief Justice saith that Sir Iohn Markham told King Edward the fourth that he could not arrest a man upon suspition of felony or treason as any of his Subjects might because if he should wrong a man by such arrest the parties could have no remedy against him if any man shall stand upon it here is a signification of the Kings pleasure not to have the cause of the commitment examined he hath here another signification of his pleasure by writ whereby the party is brought hither ad subjiciendum recipiendum that he hath made your Lordship Judge of that that should be objected against this Gentleman and either to punish him or to deliver him and if here be no cause shewn it is to be intended that the party is to be delivered and that it is the Kings pleasure it should be so and the writ is a sufficient warrant for the doing of it there being no cause shewn of the imprisonment and now my Lord I will speak a word to the writ of De homine replegiando and no other writ for that was the common writ and the four causes expressed in that Statute to wit the death of a man the command of the King or his Justices or Forest were excepted in that writ before that Statute made as appears Bracton 133. so that the writ was at the Common Law before that Statute And it apppears by our Books that if a man be brought hither by an Habeas corpus though he were imprisoned De morte hominis as in the 21 of Edward the fourth 7. Winckfield was bailed here this Court bailed him for he was brought hither ad subjiciendum recipiendum and not to he in prison God knows how long and if the Statute should be expounded otherwise there were no bailing men outlawed or breakers of prisons for they are not within this Statute and yet this

but temporary and it might be amended but my Lord they have mistaken the minor proposition for they have it as granted that there is an imperfect returne from the Lords of the Councell my Lord I shall intreat you to cast your eyes upon the Return and you shall finde the first words positive and affirmative the words are Quod detentus est sub custodia mea per speciale mandatum domini Regis the other words mihi significatum they follow after but are not part of the affirmation made before it but if they will have it as they seem to understand it then they must return the words thus Quod testificatum or significatum est mihi per dominos Privati Concilii quod detentus est per speciale mandatum domini Regis and then indeed it had not been their own proper return but the signification of another The Lords of the Councell the turning of the sentence will resolve this point the thing it self must speak for it selfe I conceive by your Lordships favour that it is plain and cleare here is a positive Return that the detaining is by the commandment of the King and the rest of the Return is rather satisfaction to my self and the Court then otherwise any part of the Return The second Objection hath dependence upon this as that he hath returned the cause of the cause and not the cause of it self wherein under your Lordships favour they are utterly mistaken for the Return is affirmative Ego Iohannes Liloe testifico c. I know that among the Logicians there are two causes there is Causa causans and Causa caussata the causa causans here in this case is not the warrant from the Lords of the Councell for that is causa causata but the Primary and Originall cause which is causa causans is speciale mandatum domini Regis the other is but the Councels signification or testification or warrant for him that made the Return To the third Objection that the Return is imperfect because it shews only the cause of the detaining in prison and not the cause of the first commitment My Lords for that I shall not insist much upon it for that I did say the last day which I must say again it is sufficient for an Officer of the Law to answer that point of the Writ which is in command Will your Lordship please to hear the Writ read and then to see whether the Wardens of the prisons have not made answer to so much as was in command Then the Writ was read by Master Keeling Heath Atturney Generall My Lord the Writ it selfe clears the Objection for it is to have the party mentioned in it and the cause of his detention returned into this Court and therefore the answer to that is sufficient Onely my Lord the Warden of the Fleet and the rest of the keepers of the prisons had dealt prudently in their proceedings if they had onely said that they were detained Per speciale Mandatum Domini Regis and it had been good and they might have omitted the rest but because if they should make a false Return they were liable to the actions of the party they did discreetly to have the certification of the Lords of the Councell in suspition that if this Return was not true they were liable to the actions of these Gentlemen In 9 H. 6. 40. 44. it is said that whatsoever the cause be that is returned it must be accepted by the Court they must not doubt of the truth of the Return and the Officer that shall return it is liable to an action if the Return be false and therefore the Guardian of the prisons did wisely because they knew this was a case of great expectation to shew from whom they had their warrant and so to see whether the cause returned bee true or not The last Objection to the Return is that it is contradictory in it self as that the first part of it is that they are detained in prison Per speciale mandatum Domini Regis but in this relation of it it shews that they are detained by the command of the Lords of the Councell for the words of their warrant are to require you still to detain him c. But my Lord if they will be pleased to see the whole warrant together they shall finde that the Lords of the Councell speak not their own words or command in that warrant but they say that you are to take notice of it as the words and command of the King for my Lord the Lords of the Councell are the servants to the King they signifie his Majesties pleasure to your Lordship and they say it is his Majesties pleasure you should know that the first commitment this present detaining him in prison are by his Majesties speciall commandment And this my Lord is all that I will say for the sufficiency of the form of the Return to prove that it is sufficient Touching the matter of the Return the main point thereof it is but a single question and I hope my Lord of no great difficulty and that is whether they be replevisable or not replevisable It appears that the commitment is not in a legall and ordinary way but that it is per speciale mandatum domini Regis which implies not onely the fact done but so extraordinarily done that it is notorious to be his Majesties immediate Act and will it should be so whether in this case they should be bailable or not in this Court which I acknowledge to be the highest Court of Judicature for such a case as is in question The Councell on the other side desire that they may be bailed and have concluded that they may not be remaunded their grounds of argument though they were many that did speak I have in my collection divided into five points The first was reasons that they must be so arising from the inconveniences that would fall to the subjects if it should not be so in the main points of their liberty The second was they shewed divers Authorities out of their Law books which they endeavoured to apply The third was Petition of the Commons answered by severall Kings in Parliament The fourth was Acts of Parliament in Print The last was Presidents of divers times which they alledged to prove that men committed by the Kings commandment and by the commandment of the Lords of the Privy Councell which I conceive to be all one for the body of the Privy Councell represents the King himself that upon such commitment in such causes men have been bailed In the course of my Arguments I will follow their method first to answer their reasons and then those Books which they have cited which I conceive to be pertinent to this question and then the Petition and Answer made in Parliament and then their Acts of Parliament next their Presidents and lastly I will give your Lordship some reasons of my owne which I hope shall sufficiently satisfie your