more now in this then they have demanded heretofore And therefore having granted more then what would have fully satisfied them in former Treaties his Concessions in this may be fully satisfactory to us so far as to close with him to settle a firm peace in the Kingdome now at the brink of ruine though they fall short in somethings which we now propounded which do not much concern our security as I shall prove anon The true state then and sense of this Question must be this and no other Whether the Kings finall Answers to the Propositions of both Houses in this Treaty considered and weighed all together be not so full and satisfactory in themselves that this House may and ought to accept of and proceed upon them for the speedy settlement of a safe and wel-grounded Peace both in Church and Common-wealth rather then reject them as unsatisfactorie and so hazard the life of all and the perpetuating of our wars and miseries In this sense I humbly conceive and hope to evidence them so clearly fully satisfactory that we can neither in point of duty prudence justice honor or conscience reject them as unsatisfactory but ought to imbrace them as the only safe ready way to our peace and settlement though they come not up so fully to some of our Propositions as I could have heartily desired for the avoiding of this hazardous debate For my clearer progresse in this grand debate I shall observe this method First I shal clearly manifest that the King in this Treaty hath granted us whatsoever we can wel desire for the present settlement future security of the Common-wealth or state when ratified by Acts a regal oath as is intended yea far more then ever our Ancestors or any Subjects in the christian world enjoyed or desired of their Ks. for their security preservation against their armed power or legal prerogatives Secondly That the King hath granted as much in this Treaty as will settle and secure the Peace and Government of our Church and Religion against Popery and prelacy on the one hand and prophanenesse on the other hand and more then we or any Protestant Churches ever enjoyed or demanded heretofore for their security and settlement When I have made good these particulars and answered the Objections made against them I hope every one of us who have any ingenuity reason or conscience in their brests and are not transported with passion or private engagements to the contrary will and must of necessity vote these Answers satisfactory in the sense forestated I shall begin with the first of these namely the Kings Answers to all these Propositions which concern the present settlement and future security of the State and Republike against any armed force or invasions of the Regall Prerogative to the enslaving or prejudicing of the Subject which in my poor judgement are so full and satisfactory that little or nothing can be added to them and if we well consider them we have cause to say O fortunati nimium bona si sua norinâ— I shall give you a full view of them all because many of them have not been so much as once remembred in this debate and apply them to our present settlement and future safety as I mention them The first Proposition for the settlement of a safe and wel-grounded Peace is that which concerns the justification of the Parliaments War declaring it by an Act of Parliament to be passed to be in their just and lawfull defence justifying the Solemn League and Covenant in prosecution thereof and repealing all Oaths Declarations and Proclamations heretofore had or hereafter to bee had against both or either Houses of Parliament their Ordinances or proceedings or against any for adhering unto or executing any Office Place or Charge under them and all Judgements Indictments Outlawries Attainders Inquisitions in any of the said causes and all Grants thereupon made had or to be made or had to be declared null suppressed forbidden and never put into execution And this to be published within all Parish Churches and all other places needfull within his Majesties Dominions To this proemiall and advantagious proposition the King hath fully and readily condescended at first in every tittle as was desired By this concession the Parliament hath gained sundry considerable advantages tending to their present honour and future security First a full publick acknowledgment of the justnesse of their Warre and Cause to be ratified and perpetuated to posterity by the highest record that can be an Act of Parliament and that to be read in all Parish Churches throughout England Ireland and other the Kings Dominions and proclaimed in all Counties Cities Corporations and at Assizes and Sessions of the peace that so all men may take publick notice of it Which is such an honour to and justification of them and their Cause as was never condescended to by any King that took up arms against his Subjects since the creation to this present and so low a humiliation and Legall disclaimer in the King of his Warre against the Parliament and disavowing of his Cause and Party as could possibly be imagined or expected Secondly It secures the Lives Liberties and Estates of all the Members of both Houses engaged in these Wars and of all persons whatsoever that have adhered to or acted for them against all former present and future Impeachments Prosecutions and Judgments whatsoever and makes void and nul what ever hath been is or may be objected against them Which coupled with the Act of Indempnity and Oblivion proposed by the King and agreed to by the Houses wil extraordinarily secure pacifie content all wel-affected Members and persons who have adhered to them in this Cause and preserve them from the danger of 25 E. 3. and other Laws concerning Treasons which otherwise upon any revolution of times and affairs might by corrupt Judges and Instruments be extended and rested to their prejudice aud undoing Thirdly it laies a foundation for the lawfulnesse of a defensive War by Authority of both Houses upon the like occasion in all future ages without incurring the guilt of Treason or Rebellion which will be a great encouragement and security to the Subjects and engagement to them to adhere to the Parliament in after-times Fourthly It wil very much discourage and deter all kind of men from taking up Arms in the Kings His Heirs and Successors behalfe against the Houses of Parliament when they shal cast their eyes upon this Act and behold the King himselfe passing such a censure upon all his own proceedings and retracting his own Oaths Proclamations Commissions Inditements Grants against such Members all others who have now taken up arms against him for the Houses Kingdoms defence So as this very first Proposition only if well weighed without any others added thereunto being so fully and freely consented unto by the King tends very far towards our present settlement and future safety
fine or imprison without any indictment or legall tryall by Jury or Verdict according to Magna Charta and the Common-Law Therefore your bringing Delinquents to punishment for Life and Estates which in the first branch of this Proposition must be intended only of a just and Legall TRYALL as your selves have alwayes professed not by a new Law in the post And if so then the King in case you will not rest satisfied with the seven excepted persons banishment is content to leave them to your Justice even for Life and Estate according to the known Laws of the Realm and will no wayes interrupt your proceedings therein nor pardon them Therefore in this he fully consents to the Proposition But it hath been objected First that the King denyes to yeeld them up to Justice or to have any hand in their prosecution and therefore his Answer is unsatisfactory Secondly That this expression That he caâ— neither in Iustice nor honour consent to any Act for to take away their Lives or Estates is as high a justification of them and his own cause as possible and contradictory to the first Proposition and declares the Kings heart to be still in the same and unchanged To which I Answer First both these are so grosse mistakes and inconsequences that I wonder how any intelligent man can insist upon them For first the King in positives terms if you will not accept of their banishment yeelds them up to a Legall tryall in which himself must be the Prosecutor the Indictment being in his name the prosecution at his suit by his Counsell at Law and the Witnesses produced on his behalf as all men know who understands what belongs to a Legall tryall Therefore to infer from the Kings Answer that he disclaims all prosecution of them is direct contradiction and falsehood Secondly the Kings very condesconsion to their banishment and forfeiture of their Estates for adhering to his Cause and putting them upon their legall tryall is an express disavowing of his own cause as just and an acknowledgment of its badnesse and illegality and if the Parliament should yeeld up those who have acted for and adhered to them to banishment confiscation of Estate and legall tryall for their lives I am certain the Objectors themselves would protest that therein they had betrayed their righteous Cause and deserted their best affected friends Thirdly Expressum facit cessare tacitum the King having in direct terms justified your Cause and War as just in the first Proposition acknowledged those persons exempted in this and treated for under the very name notion of Delinquents to be such in this very Proposition and consented to their banishment and losse of Estate cannot without apparcht absundity be averred to justifie them and their Cause in this his Answer which yeelds them up to the strictest legall Justice as Delinquents 5ly Those words of the King so much excepted against that he can neither in honour nor justice consent to any act to take away their lives who have acted any thing by his command used and intended by him only in relation to his regall consent to a new Law to condemn them ex post facto where there was no Law before are so farre from any exception that for my part I should have held him neither just nor honourable had he omitted this expression For can it be just or honourable for a King to engage men in his service by special Commission or Command when there is no known Law to make their obedience criminall and yet afterwards to give his Royal consent to a subsequent Law to take away their lives forfeit their estates for obeying his own Royall commands Suppose we were now in the Kings condition and he in ours and he should press you to consent to a new Law to make all those who have acted for you and by your Commission in this war Traytors and to lose their lives and estates for it when there was no former Law to punish them would you not all give the self same answer as he doth that you could neither in honor nor justice nor yet in point of conscience consent to such a Law and would not your selves and all other protest you had neither justice nor honesty in you should you be so base and persidious as to condescend unto it to betray all those you had engaged and to give them such a requitall for their services Would any person ever after honor serve or trust you should you do it or could you or any other honor trust or serve the K. in any dubious imployment after this if he should thus unworthily ex post facto betray his own party now This answer therefore of his clearly discovers to us that there is yet so much justice and honor in him as by no fear or danger to consent to such an unjust and unworthy Act as by a new Law to cut off the heads of those himself engaged in his service when there was no Law extant then to do it makes it more satisfactory unto me then otherwise and shews he doth not dissemble but is reall in his answers and I shall sooner trust and beleeve him now then if he had consented to such an unworthy act 6ly This answer is both just and honorable because if the King should assent to a new Act to forfeit their lives and Estates he should condemne them rashly and unjustly without hearing their defence or evidence And for the King to condemn any for Traytors by a Bil without hearing the cause or evidence against them or to make men Traytors by a law subsequent to their offences is neither just nor honorable in every just mans judgment and of very dangerous president as Sir Edw. Cook informs us the Lord Cromwell the inventer of such Acts of Attainder being the first that lost his head by this new invention All which considered there is no rationall man but must conclude the Kings Answer unto this branch touching Delinquents to be fully satisfactory even to your own demands as well in words as substance notwithstanding the Objections against it But admit the answer as bad as any have made it shall we therefore conclude it so unsatisfactory as to break off the Treaty upon it and involve the Kingdom in another War of which no man can know the end or issue God forbid we should ever be so unadvised The persons whose lives you desire for a Sacrifice to publick Justice are but seven in number fix of them out of your power in forraign parts where a new war will not reach them the 7th an aged man who may chance to dye before judgment or execution pass against him you have all their whole estates at your disposal already and their persons too by way of banishment during both Houses pleasure And will you adventure another seven years war and the losse perchance of seventy thousand mens lives and as many millions of Treasure to the ruine
inslave the City to our vassalage This is their present practise The Land-lordâ— Rich men in the Country are too potent for their Tenantâ— the poor Ergo we must by force of Armes out of extraordinary necessity now abate the Tenants Rents alter their Tenures and Customes share their Lands and wealth amongst our selves and the poore and if any poore man by forging an Act of Parliament or otherwise pretend a Title to any rich mans Lands turne the rich man out of possession and put the poore into it as some Levellers and Souldiers have lately done in Essex in the case between Sir Adam Littleton and one Pointz against all rules of righteousnesseâ— Law and conscience Such a Monster is this plea of necessity for publick good already grown unto through the Armies power and how soon it will proceed to draw the blood of many gallant Gentlemen Lords and Members now secluded for fear they should prove the stronger as well as the major number and therefore must lose their heads to prevent al future dangers revenge God only knows The second ground for the necessity of our seisure and seclusion is this that the pretended corrupt majority of the House would have closed with the King setled the Kingdomes peace before this time had they not been secured Ergâ— the Officers and Army were necessitated to secure them as Apostates from and infringers of their trusts I answer This is very ill Logick and worse Divinity For first is not the end of all just wars whatsoever nought else but peace 2. Is it not Gods command and every Saints and Christians duty to pray for peace to follow peace with al menâ— to seek peace and pursue it to study to be quiet and live in peace to live peaceably with all men as much as in us â—yeth And is not our God a God of Peace our Saviour Jesus Christ the Prince of peace the holy Ghost a Spirit of Peace the Gaspell it selfe a Gospell of peace and can or dareâ— any Saints then pretend a necessity to levy warre even against the Parliament and Members themselves which is high Treason onely upon this pretended necessity that they desire and indeavour to settle peace in our Kingdome Thirdly Is not peace the greatest Earthly blessing that God can bestow upon us and hath promised out of his love to give us as a most SIGNALL favour is it not the thing we have all payed for fasted for fought for paid for longed for and earnestly desirid for many yeares doe not all Counties Cities Villages Families yea every sort except those who make a trade of Warre to enrich themselves by the Kingdomes ruines but more especially distressed Ireland cry all out unto us with one unanimous cordiall and continuall clamar Peace Peace for the Lords sake No more Warres no more blood shed no more plundering no more free quarter no more taxes but Peace Peace or else we perish And if so the generality of the people and Kingdome being by the Armies principles the originall and fountaine of all just power there is an absolute necessity lyes upon us who are their trustees to make and setlle Peace but no necessity for the army to hinder or secure us from effecting it yes a necessity for them to assist us in it and release us to accomplish it which by Gods blessing we had done ere this Object All that they can object is That we would have made an unsafe and dishonourable peace with the King upon his owne termes to the peoples prejudice and enstaving Answ. To which I answer 1. It is the foulest falsest and most malicious scandall that ever man could invent which the ensuing Speech will abundantly refute to the shame of those who dare to aver it in print 2. Admit it true yet an unjust and unequall peace is better safer and more honourable for us now we are quite exhausted and can manage warre no longer and Ireland so neere its ruine then the justest Warre which ought not to be undertaken at first without absolute necessity and nes to continue one houre longer then that necessity endures especially if it be a Civill Warre between those of the same Nation blood Religion or a defensive Warre as our Warre is who have now no armed Enemies to encounter and so there can be no pretence of necessity to continue a Warre or so great a recruited Army unlesse it be to enslave us to martiall Law and Tyranny in stead of peace and Liberty 3. Neither God nor the Kingdome nor Majority of the people ever made the Army Iudges of the goodnesse or badnesse of the intended peace but the Parliament onely the onely proper Iudges likewise of the necessity of peace or Warre And therefore for them thus forcibly to wrest this Iudicatory out of the Houses bands without a lawfull calling to it and to imprison those who are Iudges of it is neither Christian nor warrantable but the highest insolency and Rebellion ever offered to any Parliament in any age And upon this account every Souldier who hath a cause depending in Parliament or in any Court of Iustice may by as good Iustice and reason pull all the Members out of the Houses and Iudges from the Benches that would not give Iudgement for him be his cause never so unjust and make himselfe or the Generall Councell of the Army his onely Iudges who may proceed to Iudgement on his side before any hearing or appearance before them by his adversary in such sort as they have proceeded against us But admit there were an extraordinary necessity for publick good as is pretended yet to make necessity a plea for to justifie any mâ—rall sinne or evill is monstrous in an Army of Saints Nulla est necessitas delinquendi quibus una est necessitas non delinquendi was the Primitive Christians Maxime who chose rather to die the cruellest deaths then commit the smallest sinne Had Hugh Peters John Goodwin and these Army-Counsellors lived in our Saviours dayes they could have taught St. Peter how to have denyed his Lord and Master thrice together with Oathes and curses as the Army have denyed and imprisoned their Lords and Masters and cast them into bell with Oathes and curses too and to have justified it in stead of going forth and weeping bitterly for it as he did because be did it onely out of necessity to save his life when he was in danger If these Army-Saints had lived in Iulian the Apostate's dayes they could have instructed his Souldiers how to have sacrificed to his Idols by throwing but a branch into the Fire out of necessity to sare many precious Souldiers lives rather then to be mariyred for refusing it And had Catesby Faux Winter and Piercy wanted an advocate or Ghostly father to encourage them to blow up the Parliament-House King Nobles and Commons at once and justifie it when they had done it the Generall
Seal against the Parliament to publick Justice who cannot plead it in Barre or excuse in any Court after it shall be nulled and repealed by an Act. Fifthly a great disparagement dishonour and disadvantage to the English Cavaliers Irish Rebels and their cause and proceedings with a future disingaging of them and al their Party from the King and his interest who hath so far dishonoured deserted and disclaimed them as thus to null and repeal all Honours Titles Grants of Offices Lands or Tenements bestowed on any of them for any services done or Assistance given by them to the King in his Warres against the Parliament A very high point of humiliation and self-deniall in the King and such a blow to his Popish and Malignant party that I dare presume they will never engage in his behalfe nor trust him for the future which will much conduce to the settlement of a firm and lasting peace and prevent new VVars if accepted of 6ly Indempnity and security for all the Commissioners of the new Great Seale against all scruples which may arise upon the Statute of 25. E. 3. for using and sealing with it if ever the times alter which every prudent man will readily embrace where it is freely offered and not peevishly reject in such an age of danger and incertainty as this in which no man is secure of his life liberty or estate on either side The next Concession of the King in this Treaty is this That by Act of Parliament all Peeres made since Edward Lord Littleton deserted the Parliament and conveyâ—d away the Great Seale on the one and twentieth day of May 1642. shall be Vn-Peer'd and set by And all other titles of honour and precedency as Lordship Knighthood and the like conferred on any without consent of both Houses of Parliament since the twentieth of May 1642. shall be revoked and declared null and void to all intents and never hereafter put in use And that no Peere who shall be hereafter made by the King his heirs or successors shall sit or vote in the Parliament of England without consent of both Houses of Parliament This Concession of the Kings is of great concernment to the Kingdome and I conceive without president or example in any age or King in the Christian world First it secures us from our formerly feared danger of a designe in the King by new created Peers to make an over-ruling party at any time in the Lords House wherein the Iudicatory of the Parliament principally consists which danger and inconvenience by secluding the Bishops out of that House by an Act already passed and by this disabling all new Peers hereafter to be made to sit in that House without consent of both Houses is for ever totally prevented Secondly It gives such an extraordinary new power to the House of Commons as they never formerly enjoyed or pretended to to wit that no Peer created by the King himselfe or by the King or Lords in Parliament who usually created Peers in Parliament without the Commons privity or consent in former times shall be henceforth inaabled to sit or vote as Peers of Parliament but by consent of the House of Commons as well as of the King and Lords By which provision the Commons are made not only in some sense the Judges of Peers themselves which they could not try or judge beforeby the expresse letter of Magna Charta chap. 29. and the Common Law but seven their very Creators too Thirdly It is an extraordinary prejudice and blemish on the Kings cause and an extream dishonour dissatisfaction disengagement upon his own party then which a greater cannot be imagined For what higher affront or disgrace could the King put upon those Nobles Gent. others who have spent their estates lost their blood limbs and adventured their very lives in this cause against the Parliament and received no other reward for it but an empty title of honour perchance a Kightship Lordship or the bare title of a Marquesse Earl or Viscount which they have enjoyed but a year or two with little benefit and lesse content to be thus by Act of Parliament with the Kings owne Royall assent who conferred those titles on them for their gallant services in his behalfe thus suddenly degraded and divested of them all as if they had never been A perpetuall brand to them their posterity who must be inforced to give place to such of whom they have had precedency place by vertue of these dignities Which high affront and scorne I am verely perswaded will pierce and break many of their own at least their Ladies hearts and for ever disoblige them in the highest degree 4thly It will make all the ancient and new Nobility and Peers of England lesse dependent on the King lesse complying to serve his ends upon all occasions being never able to gratisie or reward them though never so ambitious with any new Honours or Peerships without consent of both Houses of Parliament whom they dare not displease or disoblige for fear of crossing them in their desired dignities and titles as well as in their great Offices which are both now in their disposall not in the Kings alone In brief the King in his Concession hath manifested the greatest humiliation and self-deniall that any King since there was a Kingdome in the world hath done It is and hath been the ancient and undoubted prerogative of all Kings in the world but especially of the Kings of England to conferre honours dignities of all sorts especially Knighthood on whom they shall think meet and more principally on those who have merited it by their gallantry in the field as Mr. Selden proves at large in his Titles of honour and others who have written of that Subject Now for the King out of a desire only of a happy peace and settlement not onely to part with much of the Royall Prerogative which all other Kings in the world enjoy for the future but to repeal the Honours and Titles conferred by him on his adherents for reward of their services in times past during all these wars is such a miracle and high degree of selfe-deniall as no age hath produced the like and that which most of this house had the King prevailed would have rather lost their lives had they conferred any such Titles on their Generalls and Commanders then have condescended to should the King require it And therefore I cannot agree with those over-censorious Gentlemen who so oft inculcate this that they can see no humiliation at al or change of heart in the King when I find so great a change and deep a humiliation in Him in this and all other forementioned free Concessions without any or little hesitation and I heartily wish their owne hearts were as much humbled as his and then I doubt on but they would thankfully embrace rest fully satisfied with his concessions for their owne and the Kingdomes benefit The next proposition tending
enlargement and the Kingdomes settlement by a Treaty grants a Commission to Marquesse Ormond to unite the Irish forces then divided for the foresaid ends Extremities certainly put honest and wisemen too as the Armies friends grant upon hard shifts for self-preservation and this extremity put the King upon this of Ormond The King is flesh and blood as well as we and nature teacheth him to use the best means he may for his own preservation and deliverance in such a strait The Army the last Summer refused to disband or suffer any of their forces to go for Ireland to preserve and secure that Kingdome only from this ground of self-preservation upon which they would now enforce you by their REMONSTRANCE and marching up to your doors with their forces to break off the Treaty or vote it wholly unsatisfactoryâ— whence most Gent. that differ in opinion from me have made this their sole or chief argument that the Kings answers are unsatisfactory because the Army else will not be satisfied If then your own Army may thus disobey your votes and force your consents only upon a pretence of self-preservations and defence when they are in no visible danger the King by as good or better reason in this extremity of danger might justly make use of Ormonds endeavours for his better safety and enlargement And if some Members have affirmed in the House as hath been alleadged in this debate that they would joyn with Turks or the worst of Nations and call them in to their assistance rather then the King should come in by conquest then the King by like reason might joyn with Ormond and the Irish rather then be thus laid aside and destroyed And what we our selves would do in his or the like condition we cannot justly blame in him Thirdly The King did never absolutely deny the recalling of Ormonds Commission but only suspended it til the Treaty ended and if you then close with him you have his engagement presently to recall it if then you agree with him upon thisâ— Treaty your demand in this is granted and danger prevented but if you will not agree at all it is very hard measure to presse the King to a present disadvantage who is like to receive no advantage by you nothing being obligatory on either side til all be concluded In fine the King hath so far condescended to satisfie you in his finall answer as to write a letter to Ormond to suspend the Execution of his Commission for the present and engaged to revoke it so soon as you and he agree in future and more then this as the case stands wee cannot well in justice require and we should hardly grant so much were it our case as it is the Kings and seeing all our dangers may be prevented by our agreement with the King and this demand then fully granted there is no reason to vote this unsatisfactory when we may have all we desire if we please our selves However I see no such differences between the King and Us in this of ORMOND and that of Delinquents as to vote the finall answer to them and all the rest unsatisfactory and so to lose England distressed Ireland and all the former Concessions for an unconsiderable dissatisfaction in these two particulars The last Proposition relating to the security of the State is That the City of London shall enjoy all their Rights Liberties Franchises and usages in raysing and imploying the forces thereof for its defence in as full and ample manner as they used and enjoyed it heretofore That the Militia and City and Liberties thereof shall be in the Ordering and Government of the Lord Major Aldermen and Common-Councell or such as they shall appoint and be imployed and directed as both Houses shall direct so as no Citizen or forces of the City shall be compelled to go out of the City or Liberties for Military service without their own free consent That an Act shall be passed for the granting and confirming of the Cities Charters Customs and Franchises notwithstanding any Non-user Misuser or abuser and for confirmation of all by-Laws and Ordinances made or to be made by the Lord Major Aldermen and common-councell concerning the calling convening and regulating their Common-councell That the Tower of London may be in the Government of the City and the chief Governour thereof nominated and removeable by the Common-Councellâ— and all Propositions which shall be further made and approved by both Houses consent for the future welfare and Government of the City confirmed by Act of Parliament To all which the King hath fully confented so as his Answer thereto cannot be Voted unsatisfactory by any but such who envy the Cities weal and security that themselves may the better seize and trample on it to its enslaving and ruin This Concession is First A great Honour to and justification of your cause the City having beene more cordiall to active for and bountifull towards you upon all occasions and exigencies then all other parts of the Kingdome the harbourers and relievers of all who have fled from the Enemies tyranny thither for safety or reliefe yea the onely Treasury to advance monies upon all exigencies and those to whom under God you pricipally owe your victories and preservation Now for the King to honour the City with such concessions as these which hath beene most hurtfull to and deepest engaged against him in this Warre is almost as high and full if not a greater justification of and countenance to your cause as this consent to the first Proposition 2dly A great satisfaction to the City for all their services and expences and a firm security against all future feares and sufferings for ingaging so deeply in your Cause 3dly An extraordinary Engagement to the City faithfully to adhere to you and all succeeding Parliaments upon the like cause and occasion and to other Corporations to do the like 4thly A great security and advantage to the whole Kingdome whose weal and safety principally consists in Londons welfare its principall Magazine Mart Bulwarke Refuge and Military security both by Sea and Land wherewith the whole Kingdome stands or falls had the King once gained London in these Warres the Parliament and all England had been quickly lost without hope of recovery which will be in a secure or recoverable condition at all times if it be safe and true to the publique interest from which some have studied of late to disengage it to ruine it and the Parliament too which were alwayes free from eminent danger whiles cordially united and near to both their ruines being now disjointed I have thus as briefly as I could with discharge of my conscience and duty run through all the propositions which concerne the security and settlement of our State against the KINGS armed violence or Exorbitant civill Sword or Prerogative and other particulars relating to its peace and safety with the Kings respective Answers thereunto And for mine owne opinion I humbly conceive them
Liberties Government and establish their Vtopian New modale of confusion in lieu of Parliaments and regall power thereby to accomplish that now which all their Popish conspiracies armies and confederates from the beginning of Queen Elizabeths reign could never yet effect by all their treachery policy power and how farre they have proceeded and engaged the Army and Officers unwillingly in it out of honest intentions we all now sadly behold to our great amazement even in this instant of time when Ireland is in such eminent danger of being utterly lost to â—eep off all Supplies from thence I beseech you Mr. Speaker let us all lay this speedily to our hearts and goe about to prevent it ere it be too late If we Vote the Kings Answer now unsatisfactory and so breake off the Treaty with him our onely means of peace and settlement we have all our hopes and all these large concessions which the King hath granted both for our present and future security our Monarchy Magistracy Ministry Parliaments Laws Liberties Kingdoms and that which is dearest to us our Religion also endangered yea lost at once and such a certain foundation laid to carry on all these Iesuiticall designes I have here discovered and that by authority of this House as will staine the honor of this most glorious and renowned Parliam to all Posterity and put a dishonorable speedy period to this and all future Parliam for ever But if we Vote it so far satisfactory as I have stated it and humbly conceive proved it substantially to every rationall mans understanding conscience as that we may lay present hold upon it and proceed therein without delay to turn all the Kings ConcessioÌ„s into Bils which I have for the most part already drawn and get the Kings Royall assent unto them I doubt not but by Gods blessing on our endeavours we may before this Month be ended settle such a firme and well grounded Peace between the King all his People and kingdom upon such honorable safe and advantagious terms for the Publick interest such strong securities as no State or Kingdome ever yet enjoyed the like since the Creation And therefore Mr. Speaker upon this long and tedious debate for which I must humbly begge pardon of the House being a businesse of such infinite concernment to our present weale or ruine I must and doe conclude That the Kings Answers to the Propositions of both Houses are so farre Satisfactory at the least as that this House may upon safe and firme grounds and great advantages forthwith accept of and immediately proceed upon them to the speedy settlement of the Peace of the Kingdome and are bound both in honour prudence justice and Conscience so to doe to preserve themselves our three Kingdomes and the Army too from perpetuall bloody wars and inevitable impendent desolation and confusion FINIS AN APPENDIX For the Kingdoms better satisfaction of some occurrences since this SPEECH THis Speech uttered with much pathetique seriousnesse and heard with great attention gave such a generall satisfaction to the House that many Members formerly of a contrary opinion professed they were both convinced and converted others who were dubious in the point of satisfaction that they were now fully confirmed most of different opinion put to a stand and the Majority of the House declared both by their cheerfull Countenances and Speeches the Speaker going into the withdrawing Room to refresh himself so soon as the Speech was ended that they were abundantly satisfied by what had been thus spoken After which the Speaker resuming the Chair this Speech was Seconded by many able Gentlemen and the debate continuing Saturday and all Munday and Munday night till about nine of the Clock on Tuesday morning and 244 Members staying quite out to the end though the House doores were not shut up a thing never seen or known before in Parliament the question was at last put and notwithstanding the Generals and whole Armies march to Westminster and Menaces against the Members in case they Voted for the Treaty and did not utterly eject it as unsatisfactory carryed in the affirmative by 140 Voyces with the four Tellers against 104 that the question should be put and then without any division of the House it was Resolved on the question That the Answers of the King to the Propositions of both Houses are a ground for the House to proceed upon for the settlement of the Peace of the Kingdom And to give the General Officers and Soldiers satisfaction and keep a fair correspondency between the house and them they so far condescended as likewise further to vote at the same time That Mr. Peirpoint Sir John Evelyn of Wilts Mr. Solicitor Col. Birch M. Ashurst Sir Thomas Witherington and Mr. Maynard are appointed to repair to the head-quarters this afternoon to confer with the Lord General and his Officers to keep a Right understanding and a good correspondency between the House and the General and the Army Which done the House who sat up all the day and night before adjourned until Wensday morning At which time the General and Officers of the Army highly displeased with the vote and those Members who assented to it sent two or three whole Regiments of Foot and Horse to Westminster set a strong guard at the Houses doors in the lobby stairs and at every passage leading towards the house admitting none but Parliament men themselves to enter into Westminster-Hall or the back stairs leading to the Court of Requests and excluding their servants who attended them Col. Pride Col. Hewson and Sir Hardress Waller seized upon divers Members of the Commons house some at the House doors other in the Lobby others on the stairs near the House without any warrant or reason alleadged but their sword and power as they were going to sit and discharge their duties Among others Col. Pride seized upon Mr. Prynne going up the stairs next the house and told him Mr. Prynne you must not go into the House but must go along with me M. Prynne returned this answer That he was a Member of the House and was going into it to discharge his duty from which no man should or ought to hinder him whether he would go and he should not keep him back and thereupon thrust up a step or two more Whereupon Pride thrusting him down before and Sir Hardress Waller and others laying hands on and pulling him down forcibly behind to the Court of Requests great door Mr. Prynne thereupon demanded by what Authority and Commission and for what cause they did thus violently seize on and pull him from the house to which Pride and Waller shewing him their armed Souldiers standing round about him with swords muskets and matches lighted told him that there was their Commission to which Mr. Pryme answered that they were no legal commission nor cause for them to seize upon him being a Member and openly protested that it was an high breach of the Priviledges of
Parliament and affront to the house and desired the standers by to bear witnesse of this violence and his Protestation against it and that they being more and stronger then he and all armd and he unarmed they might forcibly carry him whether they pleased but stirre he would not thence of his own accord whereupon they forcibly pushed him into the Queens Court where some other Members a little before seized were kept Prisoners by them The house bein informed by Mr. Dodridge a member who came along with Mr. Prynne of this violence upon him and high breach of priviledge in seizing him and other Members sent the Serjeant of the House to demand them of the Captain that guarded them and to command their present attendance in the House which message though delivered by him and the prisoners thereupon requiring obedience that they might accordingly attend the House was yet slighted and disobeyed whereupon the House ordered the Serjeant the second time to go with his mace and demand the Members and bring them unto the house forthwith the house refusing to do any businesse till their Members were restored but Pride and his confederates stayed the Serjâ—ent in the lobby and would not suffer him to go to the members whereupon he returning into the House acquainted them with the contempt which was entred into the Journall Thereupon the House concluded not to proceed till their Members were restored and sent a Committee to the General to demand them Mr. Edward Stephens and Colonell Birch being in the house were sent for to the doore by some of the Officers by false tickets and pulled out from the house doores by violence Col. Birch putting his head within the doore and crying out to the Speaker whether they would suffer their members to be pulled out thus violently before their faces and yet sit still When night approached St. Peters who now keeps the prison door keyes of hell and Purgatory released two of the imprisoned Members Sir Benjamin Ruddiard and Mr. Nath. Fiennes by the same power of the Sword as he said that had taken and held them captive belike they were all prisoners of War and so their marching up to Westminster was a leavying open warre against the Parliament and so Treason by their own Declarations and Remonstrance in as high or higher degree as that for which they demand the King to be brought to speedy justice and execution Soon after he and some other other Officers promised the imprisoned Members that they should be removed to Wallingford house where the Generall and Lieutenant Generall would come and conferre with them and they should have all sitting accommodations there provided for them and that Coaches were provided to carry them thither whereupon they all took Coach to go thither but coming to Hell back gate the Coaches were all there stayed and the Members thrust all prisoners into Hell where they were kept all that cold night without either bedding or other needful accommodations though some of them aged infirm there enforced to lye upon the bare flower and Benches instead of Beds few of them taking any rest at all that night The next morning a little before Dinner they were all carried fasting to White Hall by the Generalls order garded with foot and horse before and behind and on every side like so many Traytors to attend the General and his Councell who desired presently to speak with them as the Marshall informed them under whose custody they were put But when they came there they waited on their more then Royall new Excellencies till six a clock at night without eating or drinking and then received this cold Message without being admitted to the Generalls or Councells presence That the Generall and Officers were now so busie in consultation about other important affaires that they could not speak with them that night but had given order for their accommodation at the Kings Head and Swan in the Strand whither they should be carried that night and the next morning some Officers would wait on them with Propositions Which done they were guarded every man with his musqueteer at his back and others by his side and horse and foot before and behind their persons like so many Rogues or felons and so sent on foot through the dirty street except six who were lame who got a Coach to these two Inns and there kept prisoners severall daies till some were after by degrees without any condition or cause assigned of their commitment and others not released removed elswhere The next day after those Members were thus violently seised Mr. Gewen was seised at the House and Mr. Vahghan at his Lodging and sent Prisoners to the other Members Sir William Litten was likewise seized that day and kept Prisoner in White Hall but after released by Sir William Constables Order That day and five or six dayes following above one hundred and sixty Members more whose names were listed by the officers and souldiers that stood at the house Doors who kept back every one that was so listed were forcibly secluded and driven away from the House which could hardly get above 45. or 50. most confederates with the army to carry on their designes and Vote their Counsells Imperiall Dictates as the houses votes not above 3. or 4. Lords at most attended and made up that Honorable house all of them still sitting under the armies armed violence over-awing terror These 45. or 50. only whiles under this horrid force during the restraint and forcible seclusion of above 200 members by the army and so all their Votes Orders proceedings meerely null and void by their own Ordinance of August 20. 1647. which declared all Votes Ordinances and proceedings during the members absence in the army though not above 40. at most to be nul void from Iuly 26. to August six though the houses were then almost treble the number they are now and no one member secluded or actually forced away from either house have assumed to themselves the name power of the house and presumed to repeal all Votes concerning the Treaty as dishonorable and destructive among others the Vote made upon this solemne and long debate when there were 244 Members present at the Question and above 340 at the debate when fullest through age infirmity could not hold out all night til the question put some members contrary to the course of all former Parliam after these Votes passed have presumed to draw up enter particular protestations against it for which other members in former times have bin suspended the house sent prisoners to the tower The list of those who have entred their dissents protests against it follow because the secluded Members those who concurred in that Vote being above three times their number expect they will give the Kingdom and world some solid and satisfactory reasons of this their dissent against which there is so great reason in the premisses dissents