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do_v and_o what_o cause_n or_o necessity_n we_o have_v of_o so_o do_v we_o must_v consider_v that_o the_o necessity_n of_o abstain_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o this_o or_o that_o church_n do_v not_o present_o arise_v upon_o error_n or_o superstition_n suffer_v or_o teach_v in_o that_o church_n and_o hold_v or_o practise_v by_o many_o in_o it_o no_o though_o they_o be_v gross_a error_n and_o may_v be_v damnable_a to_o they_o that_o careless_o suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v seduce_v into_o they_o such_o be_v the_o seduce_a doctrine_n suffer_v and_o teach_v in_o the_o church_n of_o galatia_n pergamus_n and_o thyatira_n chap._n 3._o as_o abovesaid_a yet_o be_v not_o any_o therefore_o necessitate_v to_o divide_v from_o their_o communion_n but_o then_o the_o necessity_n arise_v 1._o when_o the_o error_n be_v direct_o fundamental_a as_o in_o the_o arian_n heresy_n for_o which_o all_o true_a catholic_n hold_v themselves_o oblige_v to_o abstain_v from_o their_o communion_n we_o do_v not_o 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still_o a_o part_n as_o we_o also_o be_v and_o this_o may_v give_v sense_n to_o that_o distinction_n of_o forsake_v the_o error_n but_o not_o the_o church_n i.e._n not_o forsake_v or_o cast_v off_o that_o which_o make_v a_o true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o not_o break_v with_o the_o church_n upon_o the_o point_n of_o true_a faith_n or_o charity_n 3._o when_o such_o superstitious_a practice_n together_o with_o error_n in_o belief_n in_o themselves_o gross_a and_o palpable_a and_o to_o the_o careless_a or_o wilful_a damnable_a be_v not_o only_o teach_v and_o permit_v in_o a_o church_n but_o impose_v also_o and_o require_v as_o a_o condition_n of_o communion_n so_o that_o they_o which_o shall_v not_o so_o profess_v or_o practice_v be_v sentence_v as_o heretic_n and_o excommunicate_v there_o be_v just_a cause_n and_o necessity_n of_o divide_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o a_o church_n now_o in_o both_o these_o respect_n we_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o the_o cause_n of_o our_o division_n and_o that_o we_o be_v thereupon_o necessitate_v to_o abstain_v from_o her_o communion_n yet_o so_o as_o hold_v she_o then_o and_o still_o a_o church_n and_o be_v then_o and_o still_o ready_a to_o hold_v communion_n with_o she_o save_v the_o duty_n of_o true_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o case_n she_o will_v provide_v for_o the_o security_n thereof_o by_o a_o tolerable_a reformation_n so_o our_o defence_n stand_v upon_o these_o two_o assertion_n that_o such_o a_o cause_n be_v just_a and_o necessary_a and_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n give_v it_o and_o we_o have_v it_o which_o two_o make_v up_o the_o two_o proposition_n of_o this_o argument_n it_o be_v lawful_a to_o abstain_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o that_o church_n which_o require_v unlawful_a and_o sinful_a condition_n of_o her_o communion_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n require_v such_o or_o thus_o all_o man_n ought_v upon_o true_a conviction_n to_o forsake_v their_o know_a error_n and_o sin_n but_o we_o know_v they_o and_o be_v true_o convince_v of_o they_o therefore_o in_o forsake_v they_o we_o do_v what_o we_o ought_v the_o first_o proposition_n in_o both_o these_o form_n stand_v as_o undeniable_a or_o else_o it_o must_v be_v grant_v that_o we_o may_v be_v bind_v to_o continue_v under_o a_o necessity_n of_o sin_v and_o that_o know_o so_o the_o whole_a business_n rest_v upon_o the_o second_o proposition_n that_o such_o be_v our_o case_n and_o such_o the_o cause_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n give_v which_o must_v appear_v by_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_a doctrine_n of_o belief_n and_o practice_n enjoin_v all_o the_o member_n of_o that_o church_n now_o that_o they_o contain_v such_o error_n and_o superstition_n as_o before_o mention_v we_o be_v ready_a to_o demonstrate_v both_o by_o scripture_n and_o the_o best_a antiquity_n but_o it_o be_v our_o purpose_n and_o work_v in_o present_a to_o discover_v and_o take_v away_o the_o general_a pretence_n and_o plausible_a allegation_n they_o make_v for_o themselves_o or_o against_o we_o in_o this_o cause_n chap._n vii_o sectary_n can_v make_v the_o plea_n that_o we_o do_v against_o our_o defence_n so_o state_v they_o usual_o reply_v if_o protestant_n upon_o apprehension_n or_o conviction_n of_o error_n and_o superstition_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v just_a cause_n to_o forsake_v her_o communion_n then_o may_v sectary_n just_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o protestant_n church_n for_o they_o also_o say_v and_o be_v many_o time_n persuade_v and_o convince_v that_o that_o church_n impose_v on_o they_o such_o error_n answer_n set_a the_o term_n aright_o and_o the_o fallacy_n or_o ambiguity_n of_o this_o captious_a reason_n will_v appear_v if_o by_o our_o apprehension_n or_o conviction_n of_o error_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n they_o mean_v only_o our_o
say_n pretend_v or_o think_v to_o be_v so_o then_o the_o consequence_n be_v good_a for_o sectary_n do_v pretend_v they_o be_v convince_v and_o many_o time_n very_o think_v so_o but_o the_o assumption_n than_o be_v false_a for_o we_o do_v not_o upon_o such_o bare_a apprehension_n or_o deceive_a persuasion_n forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o that_o church_n but_o upon_o a_o true_a and_o evident_a conviction_n of_o know_a error_n and_o sin_n which_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o commit_v in_o that_o communion_n demonstrable_a by_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n which_o conviction_n sectary_n have_v not_o nor_o do_v they_o at_o all_o pretend_v to_o confirm_v what_o they_o say_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o antiquity_n make_v the_o case_n like_o and_o it_o will_v follow_v alike_o in_o both_o if_o we_o have_v give_v they_o the_o like_a cause_n as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n give_v we_o they_o may_v also_o forsake_v our_o communion_n if_o they_o have_v the_o like_a conviction_n as_o we_o have_v they_o 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scripture_n by_o plea_n of_o tradition_n now_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n think_v it_o unreasonable_a to_o defend_v itself_o by_o unwritten_a tradition_n because_o heretic_n pretend_v they_o and_o yet_o i_o hope_v its_o more_o possible_a for_o we_o to_o make_v appear_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o we_o say_v by_o that_o which_o be_v write_v in_o scripture_n and_o father_n than_o for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o make_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o she_o say_v to_o appear_v by_o unwritten_a tradition_n the_o truth_n of_o which_o tradition_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a for_o she_o to_o make_v appear_v it_o be_v not_o therefore_o say_v or_o think_v that_o must_v carry_v it_o on_o any_o side_n but_o the_o evidence_n and_o prove_v of_o what_o be_v say_v that_o we_o undertake_v to_o do_v from_o point_n to_o point_n as_o the_o clear_a demonstration_n that_o we_o have_v just_a cause_n and_o be_v true_o convince_v of_o it_o and_o have_v rebel_v against_o light_n and_o grievous_o sin_v have_v 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to_o they_o that_o can_v use_v it_o then_o of_o the_o use_v it_o against_o or_o dissent_v from_o the_o church_n chap._n viii_o of_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n and_o judgement_n in_o private_a man_n reason_n and_o understanding_n be_v that_o light_n which_o he_o that_o lighten_v every_o man_n that_o come_v into_o the_o world_n joh._n 1.9_o put_v into_o the_o mind_n of_o man_n to_o see_v and_o judge_v thereby_o what_o to_o believe_v and_o what_o to_o do_v now_o though_o we_o leave_v not_o man_n whole_o to_o their_o own_o reason_n yet_o must_v we_o leave_v they_o the_o use_n of_o it_o so_o far_o as_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o assent_n which_o faith_n require_v and_o we_o leave_v it_o they_o not_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o public_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o the_o blind_a obedience_n of_o a_o implicit_a faith_n that_o see_v no_o other_o ground_n or_o motive_n of_o believe_v and_o practise_v than_o because_o the_o church_n so_o command_v if_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 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