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A12064 A looking-glasse for the Pope Wherein he may see his owne face, the expresse image of Antichrist. Together with the Popes new creede, containing 12. articles of superstition and treason, set out by Pius the 4. and Paul the 5. masked with the name of the Catholike faith: refuted in two dialogues. Set forth by Leonel Sharpe Doctor in Diuinitie, and translated by Edward Sharpe Bachelour in Diuinitie.; Speculum Papæ. English Sharpe, Leonel, 1559-1631.; Sharpe, Edward, 1557 or 8-1631. 1616 (1616) STC 22372; ESTC S114778 304,353 438

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the cause and manner of it The famine of the kingdome and Elias miracle were the causes that king Ahab yeelded vp by a compact and publicke decree of the kingdome these false Prophets into Elias hands to be put to death according to Gods Law But Elias you say kild them What with his owne hand do you think the Prophet was a slaughter-man you will say no though they were not slaine by Elias hand yet by Elias authoritie You should say by his aduise rather then authoritie For Elias was a priuate man not a Magistrate But Ahab if Elias had not vrgd him had not slaine them I thinke so Elias mooued the king to do it but compeld him not Ahab gaue his consent with all Israel that the Baalitish priests who had seduced the king and kingdome should bee slaine being conuicted by Gods law For whenas a greeuous famine grew vpon them and that no raine could fall but at the word of Elias as hee had foretold Ahab before the drought being accused to Ahab to be the procurer of the famine and troubler of Israel defendeth himselfe and testifieth before the king that God had sent that plague vpon all Israel because he and his Fathers house had forsaken the commandements of God and worshipped strange Gods And to make his word good he offered before all Israel vpon paine to loose his head that the king and his people were seduced by Baals priests and that he would make it plain by a miracle that is with fire sent downe from heauen which should make it appeare whose sacrifice God did approue promising that they should haue plenty of raine after the conuersion of Israel to the true God and that he was sent to that end at that time The King accepts the condition all the rest giue their consents and when they plainly perceiued by the miracle of Elias that the Baalites were conuicted to be the deceiuers and should haue cast downe themselues vpon their faces and giuen glorie to God as the people did and should most humbly haue submitted them-selues to the truth of God Elias did aduise them to lay hands on the Baalites and to punish them with death by Gods law due to such seducers and deceiuers So Elias perswaded Ahab and all Israel to consent to the slaughter of the Baalites with a publike decree Therefore by the consent of the King the decree of the kingdome in so extreame necessitie by so notable a miracle wrought by the Prophet not by Elias hand but by his perswasion the people did in publike place put to death those Baalitish impostors according to the law of God publikely convicted How can you draw this example to your purpose Will you reason after this manner False Prophets may rightly be put to death by Magistrates therefore Princes may rightly be deposed by Priests I will not send you to the schooles to learne better Logicke but to * An I le in Thessaly where Eleborus groweth that purgeth Melancholie Anticyra to purge your foolish braine if you dispute after this manner § 41 But you will say hee consumed Ochasias captaines and souldiers with fire calld downe from heauen How Ochosias souldiers were destroyed by whom Elias spake the word God performed the deed That fire from heauen was not in Elias power but in Gods will And if Elias had not receiued a speciall instinct of Gods spirit to that end he durst neuer haue called for fire from heauen for that had been plainly to haue tempted God which Christ reproued in his Apostles desirous to imitate Elias As these were extraordinarie so by no meanes you can thence draw a conclusion for disputation or an ensample for imitation no more then you can allow of thest because Israel by Gods command spoyled the Egyptian or perswade that one kill himselfe because Sampson killd himselfe or teach that one may curse and kill vnhappy boyes because Elizeus handled fortie two in that manner that calld him bald pate in Bethell But here I doe acknowledge you to be very peruerse followers of Elias How the Papists differ from Elias in their fire-workes in that you goe about to vse consuming fire for Elias calld downe for fire from the height of heauen but you haue fetcht it vp from the depth of hell Elias by the instinct of God you by the instigation of the Diuell And yet Elias did not once touch the King much lesse depose him but you went about not only to depose the King but vtterly to consume the King with all his excellent progenie and kingdome But Elias you say did by Gods appointment anoint § 42 Iehu King ouer Israel and cast off Ahabs sonne and all his house for euer bearing rule in the kingdom Elias did not annoint Iehu but one of the sonnes of the Prophets whom Elizeus sent and chargde him in the name of God not in Elizeus name marke but in the name of God that Iehu should take sword in hand and roote out Ahabs house The King therefore was not cast off by the prophet but slaine by Iehu to whom God had giuen Ahabs kingdom that he might destroy Ahab and all his house and posteritie Now if you please let vs weigh your argument God may rightly giue a Kingdome to whom he will and by name stirre vp a subiect to punish his masters sinne therefore the Pope may rightly doe the same What Catholike King can be safe from the conspiracies of his subiects if once he begin to displease the Pope With such arguments our English Iesuites haue gone about to bewitch ou men that they may take away the liues of our most worthy Princes Be they not the very slaues of Antichrist and members of the Diuell who do flatter the Pope with such argumēts to the destruction of Kings § 43 But Elias did cast downe and destroy Kings that is to say did foretell they should be cast downe if you beleeue Hugo the Cardinall Hugo the Cardinal expounding Ieremie And Ieremie was set ouer Kingdomes to plant and roote out to build vp and plucke downe Kingdomes that is as that learned Cardinall expounds it I haue appointed you saith God to pull vp that is to threaten the Iewes that they shall be cast out of their owne countrey and that you destroy that is that you prophesie that the Citie of Ierusalem shall be destroyed and that you disperse that is that you foretell that they shall be dispersed by the Chaldean Princes and that yee scatter abroad that is foreshew that the kingdome of the Iewes shall be scattered abroad after the captiuitie And that the Iewes should not be cast into despaire hee did not only foreshew their captiuitie but their deliuerance also adding that he should build vp that is shew that the Citie should be re-edified and that you should plant that is tell the Iewes that they shall be planted in Iurie This literall sense Hugo the Cardinall did giue that I may omit the mysticall
vsurper of the Kingdome which had murthered all the Kings Progeny What is this to the Pope that hee may depose a lawfull Prince with his Bishoply authority And whereas you propounded Elias zeale to bee imitated by you Patriott answered truely that your zeale was too fiery and would proue too preposterous vnlesse you could prooue you had Elias speciall instinct And when you said that Achab was remooued from his Kingdome by Elias or Elizeus it is partly true partly false It is true that you say he was remooued but by Iehu whom one of the sonnes of the Prophets did annoynt by Gods speciall commandement which God gaue to Elizeus that Iehu should roote out all the posterity of Achab. Hee was not therefore deposed by Elias or Elizeus but by Iehu whom God had raised vp by name extraordinarily for that purpose Neither did the sonne of the Prophet when hee annoynted Iehu beginne thus thus sayth Elizeus but thus saith the Lord. This doth no whit help the popes cause that Patriott did somtime scatter abroad your arguments as brooms that are not bound together and enforced him as a cripple with a broken legge to halt now vpon one leg now vpon both both in his antecedent and consequent as if the antecedent retained neither truth in the matter or Law in the forme and the consequent had lost all the necessity of proofe So that you neither did helpe the popes power or satisfie our consciences For it was to no purpose as he rightly said to seeke for causes at the last why princes should in fact be deposed by preists and prophets when you cannot proue that any was deposed § 71 You therefore as it seemes could not alleadge that any king was deposed by a priest but Patriott did alleadge that a preist was deposed by a king one especially Abiathar by Salomon This did not onely not help but hurt the popes cause Heere when you did enforce the couenant between God and the King your ready aduersary did demand if the King breake any of the articles of agreement who would enter suite against him or in what court or consistory were hee to bee accused And out of your owne grant hee concluded when you said that the king held his supreame authority taken from God and therefore the king was to yeeld account to God alone in the heauenly court for his gouernment Two pillers of gouernment ouerthrowen And where there are two pillers of gouernment Authority in the King and obedience in subiects which for all our good we are to keep safe sound you seemed Saturnin to ouerthrow them both when you made the king as it were an hypotheticall propositiō and the subiects conditionales but when you made the Popes categoricall and absolute although I reuerence them as most holy fathers yet I will speake truly you haue dealt herein as an vnskilfull Phisition who gets a more greeuous disease to the body by curing one that is easier Being repelled from the old Testament you fled into § 72 the strength of the new and here I had great hope that that your feede my sheepe and I will giue you the keyes had well strengthned the Popes authoritie and sharpned the edge of ecclesiasticall excommunication But it fell out otherwise For the aduersarie proued that by the first wordes diligence was enioyned the Byshoppe to feede the flocke and by the second were committed the keyes of the heauenly not the earthly kingdome And he brought for proofe not onely Augustine and Bernard as common witnesses but Aquinas Pope Vrbane Dominicus à Soto and Ludouicus Rycheomus all of them being on our side who thought the force of the keyes to be not in possessions but in crimes not in binding Scepters but sinnes and iudge it not to be a rooting vp but a meere discipline What you doe you thinke these to be Heretickes as lately you tearmed Sigebert and Vincentius what maruell is it if strangers accuse the Pope when his owne condemne him if his enemies set vpon him when his friends forsake him if the late Catholickes leaue him when the ancient forsake him The first foundation therefore of our obedience laid by Patriotta vpon the perpetuall and vnchangeable commandement of Christ and his Apostles standes firme and sure vnlesse you thinke that it be lawfull for the Vicar of Christ an holy man though a sinner to plucke downe the sacred tables of the Testament to violate the heauenly lawes of Christ and to abrogate the eternall decrees of God Forwhereas in the end you say that the Apostles and their Successours might lawfully haue deposed Nero Dioclesian Iulian Constantius Valens and the rest if the Church had had power to resist you would neuer haue said it as your aduersarie rightly obiected vnlesse you thinke the holy Apostles and fathers were dissemblers who obeyed those euill Emperours for feare not for dutie for times sake not for conscience sake wherein we heard that not the holy Scripture only but the antient historie was directly against you § 73 That we may greatly lament that Bellarmine and Alan so great wittes brought forth so wicked an vntruth And that we may omit Symancha Creswell Reynoldes Parsons and others of our side who brought all their wit and eloquence to patronize so wicked a cause with Alan trumpets not of the word but of warre and we must needes confesse that they haue brought an ouerthrow to many Catholicke families and a plague to their Countrie but also a torture to our consciences and an euerlasting infamie to the Catholicke religion Wherfore leaue off I pray you any more to solicite vs in this cause Saturnine vpon whose head wee see your first argument to be retorted by Patriotta who confest that subiection reuerence honour fealtie and obedience is due to a King while the King is a King But the King is king and we be subiects notwithstanding any excommunication or authoritie of the Pope whatsoeuer as Patriotta hath proued against you as it seemes to vs not only with common but with proper arguments of our owne Catholickes It followeth therefore by your owne confession that all subiection reuerence honour fealtie and obedience is to be performed of vs to our King § 74 Then Saturnine I am right heartily sorry most honourable Calander and am much vext with all that you whom wee euer held a deuout sonne of the Romaine Church now to finde a Renegate in the Heretickes tents and not onely doubting of the supreame authoritie of the Byshoppe but that which is farre worse and more dangerous to your soule oppugning it For not onely the excommunication of Princes which to diuers seemes to be the soueraigne censure of the ecclesiasticall and spirituall power of the Pope belongeth vnto him but their ouerthrow also and rooting out which proceedes not from the power of excommunication but from the power of a certain supreame authoritie in the Pope either as he is directly the Lord of the temporalties or indirectly in