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A78160 Prædestination, as before privately, so now at last openly defended against post-destination. In a correptorie correction, given in by way of answer to, a (so called) correct copy of some notes concerning Gods decrees, especially of reprobation; published the last summer, by Mr. T.P. in which correct copy of his, he left so much of pelagianisme, massilianisme, arminianisme uncorrected, as Scripture, antiquity, the Church of England, schoolmen, and all orthodox neotericks will exclaime against to his shame, as is manifestly evinced, / by William Barlee, rector of Brock-hole in Northamptonshire. To which are prefixed the epistles of Dr. Edward Reynolds, and Mr. Daniel Cawdrey. Barlee, William.; Reynolds, Edward, 1599-1676.; Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1657 (1657) Wing B819; Thomason E904_1; ESTC R19533 287,178 284

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reject your haeresy as it did that of Pelagianisme and then it would be done effectually You would bee soundly rated for Courting that Mistresse and in the mean while lying and committing spirituall fornication with that more beloved Hand-maid Dame Nature After you would be shent Can. 7. An Haeretico falleris spiritu An Resistis ipsi spiritui sancto Nay the Anathema of the 4. Canon Concil Milev Can. 4. c. And then 2. As to Massilianisme which once your great Oracle Jacob. Arminius (z) Art 10. with some grains of allowance would have questioned whether it were not to be looked upon as verus Christianismus true Christianity none shall have any the least shadow of reason to doubt of that who either can or will but compare what you have in your fifth Chapter about conditionall election (a) Massilianisme or Semipelagianisme may as well be denied by you as that your nose stands in your face unlesse you will blot out most of all your fifth Chapter There 1. to you Election is founded upon praescience p. 69. 71. So the M●ssilians Psosp Epist ad August Qui credituri sunt quivè in ea●fide quae deinceps per Dei gratiam sit juvanda mansuri sunt praescisse ante mundi constitutionem Deum eos praedestinasse in regnum suum quos gratis vocatos dignos suturos electione de hac vitae bono fine esse excessuros praeviderit 2. Faith in Christ which you make the difference between the elect and reprobate and a difference you say there must be before there can be an election So they as Austin himselfe did when he held their errour August Epist ad Hilar. Non potest in rebus omnino aequalib electio nominari quoniam sp sanctus non datur nisi credentib 3. Election to you is a retribution p. 70. reprobation a punishment passim cap. 3. So they Prosp resp ad dub Genuens ut ipsa electorum praedestinatio non sit nisi retributio 4. The number of the elect or reprobate is not to you fixed nor determinate if it bee conditionall how can that be But you say most expressely in your first papers p. 4. That God praedestinated Israel both to salvation and reprobation God does write and blot and write againe p. 8. So they Prosp ad August Nec acquiescunt praedestinatorum electorum numerum nec augeri posse nec minui Sic Hilar. Arelat ad August 5. According to you none can be certaine of election till he have beleeved obeied and persevered in both p. 69. So they Jansen l 8 de Pelag. haeres Ab electione sola ad bona opera nemo secundum illos de quibus loquitur nemo potest simpliciter electus aut praedestinatus esse vel dici hoc enim nemini competit nisi postquā non solū sanctus esse bene vivere sed etiam in eadem sanct●tate ac bona actione permansurus esse praescitur 6. Add to this your doctrine about universall grace and free will p. 64. 71. wherein you and they are one Prosp ad August universis hominib aiunt propitiationem quae est in sacramento sanguinis Christi esse propositam ut q●icu●que ad fidem ad baptismum accedere voluerint salvi esse possint August lib. de gra contr Petag Habere nos possibilitatem utriusque partis à Deo insitam velut quandam radicem fructiseram soecundam quae possit ad proprii cul●oris arbitrium vel ni●ere flore virtutum vel sentibus horrere vitiorum p 69. and other matters with the marginall parallels which I have drawn up in short and may have occasion as to Pelagianisme and Semi-Pelagia●isme to draw out more at large some other time The third thing proposed hath been proved already in the second for whosoever proves you a Pelagian or Massilian proves you either no Christian or but a piece of one and as good never a whit as never the better But that you may know how kinde hearted I am to you after all the many course salutes which I have had from you I will add somewhat to what already in these and much more to what I have had in answer to your first papers towards the probatum est that in words you doe indeed say over your second principle p. 55. but that it is impossible that it should be consistent with the rest of your tenents for which in this book and in these very last Chapters of it you doe appeare like another pugnacious Bellarmine Anagrammaticè spirans Bella Arma minas Take these few Arguments as a supra-pondium or auctarium to what hath been brought in alreadie Argument 1. He defends not the speciall evangelicall grace of Jesus Christ of which Christ said you have not chosen me but I have chosen you John 15. 16. who mainteins his good workes to be a necessary condition we shall finde that to be tantamount when wee come to it if leisure wil serve to speak to it to a necessary cause of our election But that doth Mr. T. P. indeed and in ipsis terminis p. 69. Ergò quod est causa cansae est causa causati If Mr T. P. his good works be a necessary cause or say but a necessary condition of his election it must much more be so of his vocation justification adoption c. For as Bishop Carleton learnedly proves it 's possible that a prior grace may in some sort and sense be said to be the cause of a posterior as ex gr election of vocation vocation of justification and Sanctification c. but that a posterior grace should be the cause or a necessary condition of a prior is most absurd and impossible (b) See B. Carleton at large exam of the Author of the appeale p. 52 53 54. c. where these words are most remarkable To hold the contrary to this is for love to hold with Pelagius to say something wherein they forsake understanding reason Divinity and Philosophy speak non-sense For that I call non-sense that is against Divinity Philosophy and common sense as this is which maketh a subsequēt gtace to be the cause of a precedent grace to set the effect before the cause If then faith and good works and perseverance in them be before election it selfe the very first grace and fountaine of all grace Rom. 8. 30. Eph. 1. 4. then of necessitie mans free will and good works must be before all true Christian speciall grace according to you Arg. 2. That grace which for kinde and species is but the same with the grace which was given to the first Adam from whence he fell totally and finally that is none of the speciall grace procured and purchased by Jesus Christ. But such is the grace which Mr T. P. doth most ●ouragiouslie stand up for p. 95. Sect. 52. which as Jansenius doth most learnedlie out of Austin dispute did only afford unto Adam adjutorium sine quo non without which
own will therefore he did ab aeterno decree to permit it for otherwise he could by confirming grace have hindered and prevented the committing of it as well in all Angels as in some as well in Adam as in Angels and that without any violence offered to their nature at all Gen. 20. 5. Gen. 31. 7. 1 Cor. 10. 13. neither can there be given any cause out of God himselfe and the counsell of his owne will leading and inducing him rather to permit then hinder it He did decree to permit it in order to his own glory which is the supreme end and therefore by him absolutely willed because the being thereof by his unsearchable wisdome and power was ordinable thereunto He may out of that common and equall masse wherein he did decree to permit it decree in some in whom he did permit it to pardon it and on them to shew free mercy in others to punish it and in them to shew due and deserved justice the one having nothing to boast of because the grace which saves them was Gods the other nothing to complaine of because the sinne which ruines them is their owne He may by this huge discrimination of persons who were in their lump and mass equall and in themselves indiscriminated shew the absolute soveraignty which he hath over them as the Potter over his clay He may by his most sweet and yet most powerfull efficacie work the graces of faith repentance new obedience and perseverance in the wils and hearts of those on whom he will shew mercy giving them efficaciously both to will and to doe of his own good pleasure and leave others to their own pride and stubburnness his grace being his own to do what he will withall And I say once againe in all this there is neither modest nor immodest blasphemy 1. Gods glory is dearer to him then all the things in the world besides are or can be 2. Every attribute of God is infinitely and absolutely glorious and the glory of every one of them infinitely deare unto him 3. Whatever is infinitely and absolutely glorious in God he may by an absolute will and purpose decree to shew forth the glory thereof in his works without fetching an antecedent Reason ab extra from without himselfe leading and inducing him to make such a decree 4. The subject on which God is absolutely pleased to manifest the glory of his mercy and justice as to mankinde is massa perdita 5. Out of this mass of lost or lapsed mankinde he hath ex mero beneplacito chosen some unto glory and salvation for the manifestation of his free and undeserved mercy and passed by others leaving them under deserved wrath for the manifestation of his justice 6. That such and such particular persons out of the same equally corrupted mass are chosen and others are rejected belongeth unto the deep and hidden counsell of God whose judgements are unsearchable and his waies past finding out to whose soveraignty it appertaineth to forme out of the same lump one vessell unto honour and another unto dishonour to shew mercy on whom hee will shew mercy and to pass by whom he will pass by 7. God doth so absolutely will and decree ab aeterno the manifestation of the glory of his attributes in his works as that withall he purposeth that the temporary execution of those eternall and absolute decrees shall finally be in materia apta disposita for such a manifestation 8. All those intermediate dispositions between the decree and the execution thereof whereby the subject is fitted for such manifestation of Gods glory if they be gracious they are by Gods eternall will decreed to be wrought and accordingly are in time effectually wrought by himselfe and his grace in and with the will of the creature If they be evill and sinfull they are in his eternall purpose permitted to bee wrought and are in time actually wrought by the deficient and corrupt will of the creature and being so wrought are powerfully ordered by the wise and holy will of the Creator to his glory 1. So then God did ab aeterno most absolutely wil and decree his owne glory as the supreme end of all consulting therein the counsell of his owne will and not the wils of any of his creatures 2. In order unto that supreme end he did freely elect some Angels and some lapsed men unto blessednesse for he might do with his own gifts what hee would himselfe 3. In order to the same supreme end he did leave some Angels and some lapsed men to themselves to their own mutability and corruption not being a debtor unto any of them 4. But he did not ordaine any creature to absolute damnation but to damniaton for sin into which they fal as they themselves know by their own wils whereof they are themselves the alone causes and authors Gods work about sinne being only a willing permission and a wise powerfull and holy Gubernation but no actuall efficiency unto the formall being and obliquity thereof I am sorry I am led on by mine own thoughts thus farre into your proper work But here I stop I was glad to see two Orthodox and sound Axioms stand before the book of your Author as the basis of his superstructure Two men of quite different judgements in these very arguments I finde to have done so Prosper cont Collat. c. 14. before The one Cassianus the Collator of whom Prosper hath these words Catholicarum tibi aurium judicia conciliare voluisti quibus de praemissae professionis fronte securis facile sequentia irreperent si prima Liv. decad 3. lib. 8. placuissent Which words of his bring into my mind a saying of the Historian fraus fidem in parvis sibi praestruit Ang de grat Chr●sti cap. 39. ut cum operae pretium sit cum magna mercede fallat and the censure of Austin upon Pelagius Gratiae Vid. Savilii praefat ad lectorem Andr. Rivet Grotian discuss 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Sect. 8. Sect. 11. Voss Hist Pelag lib. 1. cap. 26. vocabulo frangit invidiam offensionem declinat The other the famous Arch-Bishop Bradwardine whom learned and good men will honour notwithstanding the hard censure passed by Hugo Grotius upon him who premiseth two Hypotheses as the ground of that profound work of his de causa Dei I will have so faire and just an opinion of your Author as to beleeve that he did this in candor and integrity following therein rather the learned example of Bradwardin then if Prospers censure may be taken the artifice and cunning of Cassianus yet because this is a course which may by the credit of true principles draw the lesse cautelous and circumspect Readers to consent to deductions not naturally consequent upon them It is requisite as for writers as Pliny adviseth saepius respicere titulum so for Readers to follow the Apostles counsell to prove all things and hold fast that which is
Damascene p. 26 27 69 you grant often p 20. That God will have every man perish that is impenitent and will he not doe that of which he is the willer and determiner You then crosse your selfe who divers times grant God to bee the doer of all that which he wils and determines to bee done h 3. Whilst you doe most noblie grant p. 23. that unto God Rom. 12. 19. belongeth vengeance and he repaies it gives it wages which as you say sinners have dearlie earned and doth he pay this out of a treasury of his owne making or filling or out of that which was made to his hand All these Escapadoes of yours I can according to your request be content to put up and ascribe p. 8. to the unhappinesse of your pen or the unsteadinesse of your braine Siquidem nemo sapit omnibus horis alwaies provided you will not thinke it necessarie for me to bee long in the confutation of what you produce from the beginning to the end of the Chapter towards the support of that wild Thesis of yours set up in the front of it p. 17. 2. And if the reader will be but of the same opinion and faith with you as truelie he may well be for why should I bee largely elaborate in the beating down of that which fals by its owne absurditie so soon as ever it is mentioned which the very author and father of it ownes and disownes saies and unsaies As Saturne of old begetting and then devouring of his owne children (i) Vide L. Vivem Aug. de civitate Dei I trust then both parties will bee agreed that I may without any prejudice to my cause quicklie skip over the rest of the Ecstatick extravagant lines leaves which follow in this Chapter The thing in it to be defended was p. 17. that man himselfe is the sole efficient cause of his eternall punishment but for al his complaining upon another occasion indeed on no occasion of skipping from the first Question to the second p. 66. instead of fighting for that he doth so flie and that praeter casam too or to use his owne phrase he shoots p. 15. so farre beyond what he aims at that hee loseth his marke quite and starts up I cannot tell how many impertinent questions besides about Gods universall will to save all p. 17. Christs universall will to dye for all p. 18 19. Gods not intending to damn any or actually damning any but for sinne a thing readilie granted him by the crabbedest among all the rabble of halfe-witted praedestinarians as he cals them 1. Papers p. 10. (k) See Dr Twisse's Answer to Mr Hoard p. 8 centies alibi per vindicias gratiae c. I for my part love not like not Sectari cor vos testâ lutoque to follow my gentleman Starter to the utmost bounds of all his roving and wandering vagaries Yet lest he should give out that I have handsomely swallowed all which he brings in though praeter propositum in this Chapter take all in short thus to the severall Sections of the Chapter as they follow in order Respons ad Sect. 1. p. 17. from p. 17. to 32. and so to the end of the Chapter 1. It is plaine that Sect 1. p. 17. your Greek Ammonius in Joh. 8. neither our English Hooker 1. 5. Sect. 72. speake any thing for your purpose for whosoever casts but any carefull eies upon their words in your margent will quickly see that they will be understood of what men by their ill manners procure for themselves as so a fools back cals for stripes (l) Magister Sentent lib. 3. dist 4. Dicuntur filii Gehennae non ex illa nati sed in illam praeparati and not of what they are the efficient of by the workemanship of their owne hands 2. You speake first impertinently when you say that the devill onely incites proposeth objects and perswades unto sinne for now the question is not what he doth about sinne but what kinde of actour he is in the punishment of sinne 2. You speak falsely when in reference to punishment you denie the Devill to bee an efficient when both his will and hand is in it as an instrument under God in inflicting of punishment Heb. 2. 14. Instrumentall causes as is knowne use to be reckoned among secondarie efficient causes §. 15. p. 17 18 19. THE Scriptures belike out of Ezek. 33. 11. Ezek. 18. 32. 2 Pet. 3. 9. 1 Tim. 2. 4. 1 2 6. Rom. 2. 4 5. 1. Tim. 4. 10. 2 Cor. 6. 14. 2 Pet. 2. 1. did meet-your pen so quicklie perchance came so fast tumbling in to you if I may so speake as that you hardly considered whence they came or what you would have them to speake for you I must therefore needs say that they say not one word for you that God is not or may not be the sole efficient cause of eternall punishment if by them as you should doe you doe understand a sole supreme soveraigne cause according to whose determination and arbitriment that punishment is inflicted for will it follow even amongst men The judge likes not simplie that men should perish a father takes no delight to whip a child Ergo The Judge is not the efficient cause of the hanging of a malefactor or the father is not the efficient of the childs whipping To small purpose therefore did these Scriptures so quicklie meet your pen and make their appearance before you 2. If you would rifle your Concordance and memorie never so much you nor any of your Semi-pelagian or Arminian fraternity are able to bring in stronger for the proving of Gods universall saving love Christs universall redemption of all mankinde for which they seeme to say something but indeed say nothing and that hath so oftentimes been cleared by an innumerable company of valiant champions of Jesus Christ against Pelagians (m) Pel. g Vult inquit omnes ad agnitionem veritatis venire sic citato C. Jansenio in suo Aug. lib. 19. cap. 15. Tom. secundum Agust cont Julianum c. 8. Prosp Carmin de ingratis c. 8. Cum sine delectu seu lex seu gratia Christi omnem hominem servare velit Dominique vocantis sic sit propositum ut nullus non possit ad illud libertate proprioque vigore venire sitque salus dignis salvari ex fonte volendi Massilians (n) Massilians Prosper in Epistola ad Augustin Deus vult omnes homines salvos fieri c. Quantum ad Deum pertinet omnibus paratam vitam aeternam And thus hee explaines their meaning Carmin de ingratis ut cunctos vocet ille ●uidem invitetque nec ullum praeteriens studeat communem offe●re salutem omnibus totum peccato absolvere mundum Arminians and also somewhat by my selfe in answer to your first writing for most of them use to bee their great fortresses and bulwarks as that I am even almost ashamed as well as
not to be wise at all times nemo sapit omnibus horis So neither are the wildest alwaies out they have their dilucida intervalla est olitor aliquando opportuna loquutus In the odnesse of the looke and meane of your booke to phrasifie a little with you you are all for the conditionality of Gods decrees and staringly against all absolutenesse but here all upon a sodaine in this your saying you are as much for an absolute decree as any of your Calvinisticall Adversaries would have you You belike are one of the modern Polititians you doe loqui cum vulgo but sentire cum sapientibus If so Sir let wise men have more of your meaning and fools more of your gaping But if yet you doe not understand how fairely by this grant you have broken the back of your finically fine Corrected Copy learn it from Doctor Twisse for once whom you have so often wrested and abused who though hee never thought of you when he wrote it yet now speaks very pertinently to you thus (g) Dr Twisse against Mr Hoard p. 49. I would not have any think that I reject any of those ancient Fathers that seem to bee most opposite to Austins opinion in the point of praedestination I think they may be fairely and scholastically reconciled without acknowledging of so much difference betwixt them as Vossias maketh and tha● by such an interpretation as sometimes is admitted by Vossius himselfe of his owne phrase of his owne distinction though hee dreams not of the applicable nature of the same to the will of God in praedestination (h) Hist Pelag. lib. 7. His distinction is of voluntas Dei antecedens consequens and this he makes aequivalent to that other distinction of the will of God absolute and conditionall Now this conditionall will of God he interprets not quoad actum volentis but quoad res volitas Like as Dr Jackson professeth in expresse termes that the former distinction of voluntas antecedens consequens is to be interpreted namely quoad res volitas and not quoad actum volentis Now according to this construction there is no difference between them and Austin nor the least impediment to the making of the will of God both in praedestination and reprobation to be most absolute For though sinne be acknowledged to be the cause of the will of God in reprobation quoad res volitas in respect of the punishment willed thereby this hinders not the absolutenesse of reprobation quoad actum reprobantis And unlesse we understand the Fathers thus we must necessarily charge them with such an opinion whereof Aquinas (i) Aquinas affirmat nem nem esse tam insanae mentis ut diceret merita esse causas praedestinationis ex parte actus praedestinantis lib. 1. q. 23. a. 5. is bold to profess that never any man was so mad as to affirme to wit That any merits should bee the cause of praedestination quoad actum praedestinantis And why so because praedestination is the act of Gods will and there can be no cause of Gods will quoad actum volentis Now who seeth not that by the same reason there can be no cause of divine reprobation quoad actum reprobantis for even reprobation is the act of Gods will as well as praedestination and every way it must be as mad a thing to devise a cause of reprobation quod actum reprobantis Thus farre that learned Dr all which if it be true quite overthrowes your book and if not pray confute it and your own grant too 4. As for the grand sophisms and numerous mistakes they be especially these relating to this Chapter as to what for arguments sake must be reduced to it out of others 1. Wee have a parcell of wild consequences so extremely remote from the premises as if at the same time you had sent a bill of divorce to Calvinisme p. 24 and 48. You had with it also manumitted all naturall and artificiall Logick ex gr p. 33. God hath a true will which is usually called voluntas signi a commanding threatning promising wil ergo That is all the will he hath he hath no other above it or besides it for no body mainteins he hath any contrary to it 2. Upon the perpetuall confusion of election and salvation as if they were one and the same throughout Chapter 3. and 5. Salvation is actually bestowed upon none viz. of yeares for other wise it is false but upon faith and repentance and perseverance in it p. 69. None were elected to them but upon foresight of them they be the conditions of election as well as of salvation 3. Upon a like mistake that there is the same reason for the making of Gods decree that there is in the intended execution thereof p. 39. (k) The falshood whereof Doctor Ames Rescrip scholast ad N. Grevinch cap. 5. and Doctor Twiss also have confuted by many instances In his answer to Mr Hoard p. ●89 The decree of shewing mercy in pardoning of sin doth no more pre●uppose sinne then the decree of shewing the power of balm in curing a green wound doth presuppose the wound or the decree of shewing the power of a cordiall against poison doth presuppose the poisoning of a mans body or the decree of advancing a subject by way of reward doth presuppose his service or the decree of a patron to preferre his son to a benefice doth presuppose his fitnesse for it or the decree of Solomon to bring Shimei his gray haires to the grave in blood did presuppose the offence for which this was brought to passe but rather from these decrees and intentions each author in his kind proceedeth to bring to passe every thing that is required to the accomplishment of the end which he intends c. You conclude with a sure but not surely that which is the reason of their condemnation was the condition upon which they were determined to be damned If you dispute concerning the cause of Gods internall will quoad actum volentis as you must or else you pinch no body with it but Sir N. N. 4. Promises of rewards threatnings of punishment some covenants evangelicall are proposed and published with conditions p. 33. A blessing if yee obey and a curse if yee obey not c. ergo God takes up his eternall decrees concerning events and persons upon the same conditions And in this latter way of arguing you do so please your selfe as your brother Arminian Mr Hoard had done before you as that from p. 33. to 36. you make 4. or 5. Arguments of one and that a very lame and inconsequent one as if the punishments rewards promises threats exhortations c. would afford you different mediums for different arguments Just as we might conceive that that Herauld who by command of his Master in opposition to the long catalogue of Kingdomes enumerated in the title of the King of Spaine cryed out The King of France the King
it had been impossible for Adam to have stood at all but did not afford him Adjutorium quo by which he was enabled certainely to stand Ergo. Arg. 3. That grace which doth not absolutelie give us to will and doe according to Gods will and pleasure but only upon condition of our willing and doing and that in the very first act of our regeneration and conversion that is not the speciall grace of Jesus Christ Phil. 2. 12 13. But no other grace doth Mr T. P. stand up for either before regeneration as may be seen and read of all men in the application of his illustrious simile taken from the opening of the eye-lid as a necessary condition for the intromitting of light p. 63. A thing which as Austin hath well cleared is most necessary even sanis oculis to those who see best and unto whom not a faculty of seeing is given but externall light nor after regeneration as is plaine Sect. 45. p. 57 58. by what he disputes there and what is not greatly as he might have known disputed betwixt him and his adversaries who denie not but that after the first grace received and after the habits of grace infixed and impacted into the will that doth voluntarily act being acted But T. P. mainteins the will to be not only the materiall cause or rather the subject in which and upon which as not a blockish and brute instrument as he represents it but upon a rationall intelligent subject grace workes (c) Bernard de lib. arb gra opus hoc sine duobus perfici non potest uno a quo sit altero in quo sit Deus est Author salutis liberum arbitrium tantum capax De hoc primo actu intelligendum est quod Augustinus dicit Deum ut velimus in nobis sine nobis operari Idem quod Thomas in primo actu voluntatis qui procedit à gratia praeveniente voluntatem esse motam non moventem or the formall cause which doth elicite the acts of willing believing doing for questionlesse we will when we will we beleeve when we believe and God doth not will believe repent (d) August de gra lib. arb c. 16. Certum est nos velle cum volumus sed ille facit ut velimus bonum c. Certum est nos facere cum faciamus sed ille facit ut faciamus praebendo vires efficacissimas voluntati vid. de bon persev cap. 13. but he doth as hath been seen often and in his never to be forgotten simile p. 63. make the will as very an efficient cause of its own willing as the faculty of seeing is of the eie-lids opening ergo T. P. defends not the speciall grace of Christ Arg. 4. He that mainteines no other grace then what is conveied by a generall covenant founded o●●y upon conditionall promises he doth not mainteine the speciall grace of Jesus Christ Jer. 31. 33. Heb. 10. 16. But that doth Mr T. P. p. 36. 71. Ergo. Arg. 5. Hee that so interprets those scriptures which speake of Gods most efficacious omnipotent wonder-working grace as to allow grace not a supernaturall reall efficacious worke but only a forinsecall morall suasive worke he say he what he will to the contrary shuts Christs speciall grace out of doors and makes it stand in the cold lackying upon mans will Pelagian like e But that doth Mr T. P. by his glosses d August de gra cont Peag Celest l. 1. cap. 7 Adjuvat nos Deus per doctrinam revelationem suam dum cordis nostri oculos aperit dum nobis ne praesentib occupemur futura demonstrat dum Diaboli pandit insidias dum mult●formi ineffabili dono gratiae coelestis illuminat Nay doth Mr T. P. allow so much as Pelagius doth who c. 38. ibid. hath these words N●s qui per Christi gratiam in meliorem hominem renati sumus qui sanguine ejus expiati mundati upon Phil. 2. 12 13. Sect 45. and upon Ezek. 26 27. Cant. 1. 14. 1 John 3. 9. Sect. 47. p. 60. c. Ergo. Arg. 6. And last He that mainteins Christ himself to jeer at sinners p. 37. c. alibi and every where jeers at Christs faithfull servants for mainteining with Christ and his Apostles John 15. 2. Rom. 8. 7. 1 Cor. 2. 14. men to be so impotent since their fall as that they cannot come to Christ unlesse Christ and the Father draw them by their speciall all conquering power of grace not communicated unto all John 6. 44 But this doth Mr T. P. p. 37. and in this Chapter from Sect. 44. p. 56. almost to the end of it Ergo I trust I may upon the whole matter something more theologically and logically conclude with an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 then Mr T. P. that though in aemulation to Dr Jackson (f) Of divine Attri praef the very oracle and Arminius revived to all English Arminians you did think it most conducing to the credit of your interest to maintein God to be the speciall author of all grace and goodnesse p. 5. yet you will never be able without contradicting most of your whole book to defend it If the three faire lines and a halfe set downe p. 55. or the foure and a halfe set down p. 6. must stand uncrossed you must provide a deleatur and an Index expurgatorius for many five hundred lines of good English but bad Theology in your book 4. As to the fourth thing promised touching your ordering of Gods decrees proposed by you p. 56. 1. The Father loves the Sonne c. I list not much in these high points to contend with any man about meer matters of order (g) D. Riv. disp de praedest thes 12. Certè inter eos qui credunt praedestinationis causam referendam esse ad summam voluntatis divinae libertatem non ad prae visa bona vel mala in hominibus controversia in re nulla est etsi in loquendi modo videantur dissentire if all other matters were but right especially in an age and Church which after many vows and Covenants for good order and discipline seems to have adjured both good order and all Ecclesiasticall discipline but yet I must needs confesse I think not yours though it be verbatim a Saint Andrean order to bee either soundly 1. Theologicall 2. Rightly rationall 3. Or so passable as that of Arminius himselfe 1. It is Atheologicall without any necessity to multiply decrees in God who is purus putus actus and in whose will simply as you say very truly p. 51. there cannot be either prius or posterius first or second Frustra fit per plura quod fieri potest per pauciora The orthodox do much better who for their own ease distinguish one entire decree of praedestination into that about the end and that about the meanes according not to the diversity of Gods acts as according to the great
force you to mainteine meritorious causes of divine election as farre as ever Pelagius did and in the sense that the Fathers did take the word merit and deny grace to be conferred according to works Your second argument Sect. 56. p. 69. and 70. hath that mistake in the ●ail of it which the other hath ● the head namely because that Christ in time is the head of the Church and before all time was designed to be such therefore he was the merit●rious cause of election it selfe and not onely of salvation and every saving grace tending to it which none but Socinians and the grostest sort of Arminians use to deny and so the election of Christ being in the in●uition of the back-sl●ding of the first Adam p. 69. ergo say you it must needs be respectively but because you doe but in this imperiously dictate and offer no proofe at all and that you be a direct Anti-Augustinian in this Augustin using against the Pelagians to triumph in the contrary Argument taken from Gods freely choosing Christ to be the head of the praedestinate (i) Aug. lib. de p●ecatorum merit remis de persev sanct cap. ult de corrept gra cap. 17. Nemo enim quisquam tanta rei hujus sidei caecus est ignorantia ut audeat dicere quamvis de spiritu sancto Virgine Maria filium hominis natum per liberum tamen arbitrium bene vivendo sine peccato bona opera faciendo mer●isse ut esset Dei filius resistente evangelio at● dicente verbum caro factum est c. I shall think nothing so fit as to send you to School again to Dr Twisse that famous School-man whom you point at when you reject the saying which some affirme p. 70. that Christ is not onely the meanes but the meritorious cause of our election and there you may understand I pray God give you grace to doe it how that assertion is mainteined by him without the least diminution to Christs blessed merits but to the certeine overthrow of your cause D. I will onely at this time leave you to muse upon that saying of Th. Aquinas 1. q. 23. Artic. 5. Nullus ita fuit insanae mentis ut diceret merita esse causam divinae praedestinationis exparte actus praedestinantis and whilst you be musing on it aske but of your selfe this question num satis sobrius 3. Your third proposed Sect. 57. p. 70 71. is so horribly and most uglily grosse in the forefront and ●ear of it as that it would even affright a Christian to looke upon it And yet 1. The sequell of it is but taken from the analogy of humane electio● to that of divine because man may ●ay must if he will choose rationally finde a difference in the object whom he prefers for that by virtue of his choice he cannot make it a whit better then he findes i● erga so God must in his choice and by vertue of it not make ●ut finde a difference proba scilice● cons●quent●am I might wonder (k) Even a popish Aquinas could have taught you better v. Thomam 1 2 q. 2 3. ar●ic 4 V●luntas D●l qua vult bonum alicui dilig●nao est causa cur illud b●●um ab co prae allis hab●atur probe enim observat D. Rivet disp 3. de p●aedestinat thes 10. Notandum esse electionem dil●●●anem aliter in nobi● ordinari quam in D●o e● quod voluntas in n●bis diligendo non causat bonum sed ex bono praeexistente incitamur ad diligendum ideo eligimus aliquem quem diligimus unde dilectio praecedit electionem in nobis in D●o autem est è converso our Saviour could not hit upon this when he said John 15. 16. You have not chosen me but I have chosen you and ordeined you not because he di● find or foresee fruit but that by v●rtue of their election they should go and bring forth fruit and that then fruit should remaine That the Logicall Apostle Paul should be so dogmatically contrary to this Rom. 9. 11 18. that he should keep such a coile with his v. 20. Man who art thou that thou repliest against God That the beloved Disciple so often in Christs bosome as Christ had been before in his Fathers bosome should have heard neither tale nor tidings of this when he wrote John 1. 4 10. that herein is love not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to bee a propitiation for our sins But I ceased to wonder when I considered that none of these blessed ones had ever sate at the feet of any Arminian Gamaliels 2. The sequell of it seems to be co●roborated with a saying out of that very same book of Austins ad Smplic of which you had formerly made a very simple use nor are you yet in your dealings with Austi●● come to your much commended retraciation p. 51. what Austin cast out by way of argumentation in concertatione whilst he was as some where he hath it (l) As we have seen before and often since in Epist Hilar. ex lib. exposit qua rund proposit Epist ad Romanos lib. de persev sanct cap. 18. Yea your Vessius confesseth as much Histo● Pelag. 655. And so much you might have learned out of Damascen quo●ed by your selfe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in conflict● de gratia libertate you produce as his victorious conclusion in determinatione 2. Whilst you and your St Andrew with you from whom you had this quotation and almost your whole 57. Section for which hee is therefore most worthily shining in your margin p. 70. take up that for which Austin himselfe did beshrew himselfe very often and yet all this while p 70 you would make us believe that man hath no matter to boast though God never choose him till he hath persevered to the last gasp in faith and obedience Mira sed non vera canis 4. Your fourth Argument at length and not in figures proposed from 71. to 73. Sect 58 hath nothing in it but what for the most part even by me hath been often confuted you impose upon your readers but prove nothing As for what you say about the respectivenesse of Gods counsell as it relates to Christ p. 71. Counsell as it implies consultation and debates cannot properly be ascribed to God 2. It might relate to Christ as head of the predestinate or the chief yea the only meritorious cause and means of the executing of praedestination yet be no meritorious cause of the decree it selfe The praedestinate were chosen in Christ not because they had faith obedience but that they might obtein them for Christs sake The rest about the intentionality of Christs merits universall grace and redemption Christs invitations warnings c. we have found and dealt with all so often as that I have not a mind to salute them now as hasting to my wonted rest But as for that which you now