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A34201 Concavum cappo-cloacorum, or, A view in little of the great wit and honesty contain'd under a brace of caps, and wrap'd up in the querpo-cloak of a phanatick in some reflections on the second part of a late pamphlet, intituled, Specvlum crapegownorum, being a dialogue between True-man and Cappocloak-man / by an honest gent. and a true lover of all such. Honest gent. and a true lover of all such. 1682 (1682) Wing C5692; ESTC R18924 46,034 73

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of the Apostles Is there not such a Chain of all Affairs as that there can scarcely be any matter but may in some sort or another be Ecclesiastical as well as Civil So that either Obedience must be preached to Civil Magistrates in all matters salva Conscientia or else in none at all Are not all Laws that are enacted by the Civil Power rightly call'd Civil Laws Why then are not those Acts of Parliament which command all men to come to their own Parish-Church to worship God and to behave themselves there in such decent and orderly manner as our Liturgy prescribes which is established by Act of Parliament as well Civil Laws and consequently as much to be obeyed as any other Why are not Laws for the security of our Religion as readily to be obeyed as those which are made for the security of our Property and as fully to be executed There cannot certainly be any reason of difference to any man who does not set a much higher value upon his Interest than upon his Religion Nay have we not seen that your dear Brethren of the Kirk of Scotland under the notion of Ecclesiastical Causes brought in all manner of Affairs of State and by the Decrees of their National Synods controll'd all the Laws of their Natural Sovereign and proceeded so far till at length raising Horse and Arms to fight against his Majesty was the great Kirk-matter which they met together to compleat Cap-cloak-man Had I not a very great command of my self thorough mercy I should not have the Patience to hear one word more from you or to stay one Minute longer in your Company True-man Why Neighbour What 's the matter How have I hurt you Have you some old Sore about you which I touched a little too hard I assure you Neighbour it was unawares if I did and therefore I pray you be a little pacified Cap-cloak-man Unawares say you Why you 'r always rubbing our old Sores How do you think they can ever heal if you will be always picking and scratching of them True-man Corrosives are sometimes necessary especially where the Sores are closed up with dead or proud Flesh. When I see you sensible of your old Faults and endeavour to amend them I can be very willing to give my self the quiet as not to disturb my Neighbours but when in your Scriblings you will be insinuating the same Principles that have been the Authors of so much War and Blood-shed amongst us I cannot help it if you hear of the old Practises that followed from them Cap-cloak-man I wonder you will not see that these Principles are utterly rejected by us even in that very Book you mention see the discourse of Loyalty pag. 6. ibid. where the Author saith I think there is no Dissenter in England that would not be accounted a Rebel but would confirm it to his Prince with his Heart his Hand and his Purse and what he means by it you have in the former words viz. An obedience to Commands enjoyn'd by the politick Constitution and Frame of Government and this he proves most learnedly from the derivation of the word Loyalty from Lex True-man But all this I doubt is but one and the fairest side of the Party which he would have all men to see Thus far I believe him That there is no Dissenter in England that would be accounted a Rebel for they love a Successful Rebellion which they can soon call by the Name of the Good Old-Cause the Cause of God which he hath so manifestly even against all Opposition declared himself to own by casting down the strong holds of all the Powers on Earth as they have formerly without so much as ever wiping their Mouths after it canted oftentimes in their Sermons before the two Houses and the Army And let me deal freely with you neighbour Cap-cloak How can we believe those Mens bare Words whom no Oaths can hold A Shaft -Association possibly might hold them but if that will not I know nothing but an Halter that can Now that this is the truth of the Business look a little farther and you will plainly see for after in the Name of all the Dissenters he hath promised to confirm an Obedience to Commands enjoyn'd by the politick Constitution and Frame of Government with Heart Hand and Purse under the Penalty of being accounted Rebels yet immediately he destroys his own very Principle of Loyalty by endeavouring to subvert all Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction for saith he lin 13. ibid. this being the chief Satisfaction to the Civil Magistrate it seems hard that Ecclesiastical Iurisdiction should make such an heavy clutter for her far less inconsiderable mite of a Coercive Power Now Neighbour put on one Cap more I beseech you that is your Considering-Cap and tell me where according to your own Notion of Loyalty we shall find any such thing in your Party who in your Obedience to the Civil Magistrate take no notice of Ecclesiastical Laws For is not the settled Religion of the Nation the true Protestant cause one main part of the politick Constitutions of our Nation Are not the Canons of our Church and our Liturgy and Ceremonies ratified commanded and enjoyn'd by the politick constitution and frame of the Government of our Nation i. e. even by Parliaments themselves as well as any other Laws whatsoever Confirm then your Loyalty to your Prince by your hearty obedience to his Ecclesiastical Laws or else by your own Concession I must conclude that you 'r of that number of Dissenters who would be accounted Rebels and I must needs say that you 'r the first of them that ever I met withal for though most of them I have too much reason to believe would if their Brethren the Scots last Insurrection had prosper'd have been Rebels yet they have now generally more Wit than to desire to be accounted so Cap-cloak-man Nay Nay good Neighbour not so bitter and cholerick I beseech you against the Sober People of God in our Land your Passion hath so far transported you that you have not Patience to read on for if you had you would find that they do acknowledge the Tithes of Vnity Love and Charity to the Church of England True-man Aye say you so a blind man would be glad to see it Where do we see in their Actions any such Tythe paid No No they cannot so much as spare their Mint Cummin Annis to their lawful Ministers because they reserve all to be paid to those of their own way not of the Church of England But however methinks that a great Tythe of Obedience as well as the small Tythes of Love and Charity should be due from them to our Church which was mainly founded by the first and best Martyrs for the Protestant Religion Cap-cloak-man This is acknowledged too in the same Page only he tells you they cannot come to Church to pay it because your Pulpits are like so many Beacons where ye raise such a Flame that they
not he be believed as well as they Or why might not there be more Scylla's then one that dyed a strange and unnatural death However surely we may believe that Valerius had some Ground for what he said and that is enough to Authorize a Preacher to take so useful a Story as this upon his Credit Cap-cloak man Well but why must he be quoted when Plutarch and Arrianus say the same True-man Possibly the Notae Variorum upon Valerius would have furnished him with the Names of Plutarch c. but he is more ingenious then to mention such Authors as he hath not read though he hath never so fair an Opportunity offered him I know your Author of that Sermon so well that I dare swear he scorns to appear more learned then he is now I hope it is no great Crime if he that hath so much Business to do so constantly lying upon him should not have Leasure to read all the Historians that ever were And now give me leave to tell you at Parting that I think you have done our Church-mens-Sermons the greatest Honour that could be in this your Dialogue Cap-cloak-man How so I pray you It was utterly beyond my intentions if I have True-man I do believe you but you may have heard of one that design'd to have cut Iason's throat but thereby cured him of his inveterate disease Cap-cloak-man I pray you don't raise such a Report of me you don't know what Injury you may do me by it Do you think the Sisters will contribute to me for my Books-sake if they hear I have done the Church of England-men Service by it True-man I cannot help that but so it is For certainly nothing in the World can more recommend their Sermons then that all the Wit and Malice of their Enemies could not find nor make any more nor greater Faults in them then you have done Nay it may do them more Service then this Cap-cloak-man What is that What more still True-man Yes truly and far greater then the former viz. It may move some Persons that otherwise would not do it to look into the Sermons of your Party and to take Notice what horrid Crimes and Villainies are countenanced in them And nothing can render you so odious as this to all Men that have but a spark of Common Honesty Cap-cloak-man This will be very Fine Work for our Common Enemies to make sport withal will it not All our Quarrells are but de Lanâ Caprinâ about meer Trifles And shall we ruine all Religion for such inconsiderable things as Ceremonies True-man Why then will you do it you have begun to ridicule the Sermons of our Party And if you proceed how can you expect but the same Measure you mete shall be Measured to you again And as for our Differences the less they are the greater is your Fault in not complying with our Church for our Church-men are bound up by Laws so that they cannot if they would come over to you but you are perfectly at Liberty and nothing hinders but your own perversness But that you might joyn with them against the Common Enemies of our Religion Cap-cloak-man You know I have told you p. 39. That it is Interest that governs the World And that there 's the grand Cause of all our Misfortunes True-man You have said a great deal of Truth in a few Words for I verily believe that our Divisions will never have an end so long as you can reap so much Gain by your seperate Assemblies were but these prohibited according to Law and we should soon see an End of all our Misfortunes and Factious Cabals Cap-cloak-man But have not I given you a better Direction out of a Sermon of that Worthy Gentleman Mr. Maurice Preached Ianuary the 30th 1681 Would not this do it without persecuting and ruining one another True-man I believe your Party will Conn you no great thanks for speaking so much Truth of that Worthy Person who hath so ingeniously modestly and fully baffled your Father Baxter's railing Legend against Episcopacy and as for his Direction viz. That if we would weaken that Faction let us take away the open Scandal and Viciousness of our Lives Let us detect their Hypocrisie not by washing off the Paint with Satyr but with Solid and sincere Piety c. I fully assent to it as highly necessary But yet do not think that this will be enough so long as we suffer a Party to say what they please of us without any Answer For the more really pious we are according to the Injunctions of our Church the more such as are our enemies hate us and indeavor the more to raise Lies and Scandalls of us He that observes their Actions cannot but bear Witness to this that if the Devil himself will but appear for their Party he shall be cryed up for an Angel of Light amongst them and on the contrary if an Angel from Heaven should appear against them they would cry him down for a wicked Impostor and therefore a little Satyr may be sometimes very necessary to wash off the Glorious Outside of such Inward Hypocrites And thus good Neighbour I take my leave of you only desiring you to take St. Paul's Advice viz. Study to be quiet and to do your own Business But if you will be medling with other Men you may expect to hear further from me In the mean while I bid you farewel till our next Meeting FINIS