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A65781 Devotion and reason first essay : wherein modern devotion for the dead is brought to solid principles, and made rational : in way of answer to Mr J.M.'s Remembrance for the living to pray for the dead / by Thomas White, Gent. White, Thomas, 1593-1676. 1661 (1661) Wing W1818; ESTC R13593 135,123 316

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