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A70229 The Quakers appeal answer'd, or, A full relation of the occasion, progress, and issue of a meeting held in Barbican the 28th of August last past wherein the allegations of William Pen in two books lately published by him against Thomas Hicks, were answered and disproved, and Tho. Hicks, his quotations out of the Quakers own books attested by several as being appeal'd unto. Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent.; Kiffin, William, 1616-1701. 1674 (1674) Wing H1924; ESTC R2772 24,153 49

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at_o present_a from_o your_o friend_n philip_n ford._n london_n 20_o the_o 6_o mo_z 1674._o another_o letter_n of_o the_o same_o import_n with_o that_o before_o to_o william_n pen_n be_v send_v to_o g._n whitehead_n seal_v and_o direct_v to_o he_o at_o his_o house_n at_o the_o wheat-sheaff_a in_o hounds-ditch_n or_o elsewhere_o whereupon_o this_o follow_a answer_n be_v return_v by_o g._n whitehead_n wife_n i_o do_v presume_v to_o open_v my_o husband_n letter_n lest_o i_o may_v prejudicial_o keep_v it_o now_o find_v the_o consequence_n require_v my_o husband_n and_o william_n pen_n at_o such_o a_o day_n and_o time_n which_o in_o all_o likelihood_n they_o be_v incapable_a of_o answer_v be_v very_o remote_a from_o this_o city_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v in_o plainness_n i_o know_v not_o when_o nor_o where_o to_o send_v to_o either_o of_o they_o so_o do_v think_v it_o best_o to_o return_v the_o letter_n with_o this_o plain_a information_n that_o i_o be_o thy_o friend_n ann_n whitehead_n 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