ministrorum_fw-la pag._n 403._o post_n med_n do_v offer_v the_o name_n of_o universal_a bishop_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n hitherto_o concern_v those_o only_a father_n that_o live_v in_o the_o age_n or_o century_n next_o ensue_v the_o four_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o their_o not_o doubtful_a but_o confess_v testimomony_n of_o the_o jurisdiction_n real_o execute_v and_o extend_v by_o the_o pope_n of_o those_o time_n not_o only_o over_o their_o neighbour_n church_n and_o bishop_n in_o italy_n but_o over_o remote_a province_n and_o the_o other_o great_a arch-bishop_n and_o patriarch_n of_o the_o world_n as_o namely_o of_o antioch_n jerusalem_n alexandria_n and_o constantinople_n etc._n etc._n and_o by_o they_o then_o according_o acknowledge_v as_o concern_v now_o the_o like_a testimony_n from_o the_o more_o ancient_a father_n that_o live_v in_o the_o age_n next_o precedent_n which_o be_v the_o time_n wherein_o constantine_n the_o great_a live_v although_o the_o church_n begin_v as_o then_o but_o as_o it_o be_v to_o take_v breath_n from_o her_o former_a long_o endure_v persecution_n whereby_o neither_o her_o writer_n be_v so_o many_o nor_o her_o face_n of_o outward_a government_n so_o know_v as_o in_o the_o time_n succeed_v yet_o be_v there_o not_o want_v even_o for_o that_o time_n sufficient_a testimony_n in_o this_o kind_n in_o regard_v whereof_o the_o centurist_n affirm_v that_o 42._o that_o centur._n 4._o col_fw-fr 549._o lin_v 42._o in_o this_o age_n the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n be_v not_o idle_a to_o this_o end_n they_o further_o allege_v that_o 28._o that_o centur._n 4._o col_fw-fr 550._o lin_v 28._o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n challenge_v by_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n the_o disallow_a of_o those_o synod_n whereat_o they_o be_v absent_a and_o mr._n cartwright_n say_v according_o of_o damasus_n who_o st._n hierom_n and_o protestant_n themselves_o term_v 6._o term_v apud_fw-la brereley_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 1._o sect_n 3._o at_o 106._o pag._n 296._o hieron_n ep._n 57_o to_o pope_n damasus_n say_v ego_fw-la nullum_fw-la primum_fw-la nisi_fw-la christum_fw-la sequens_fw-la beatitudini_fw-la tuus_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la petri_n communione_fw-la consocior_fw-la super_fw-la illam_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificatam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la scio_fw-la quicunque_fw-la extra_fw-la hanc_fw-la domum_fw-la agnum_fw-la comederit_fw-la prophanus_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n quicunque_fw-la tecum_fw-la non_fw-la colligit_fw-la spargit_fw-la and_o optatus_n l._n 2._o contra_fw-la donatistas_n say_v negarâ—non_fw-fr potest_fw-la scire_fw-la te_fw-la in_o urbe_fw-la roma_fw-it petro_n primo_fw-la cathedram_fw-la episcopalem_fw-la collatam_fw-la esse_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la sederit_fw-la omn_fw-la they_o apostolorum_fw-la caput_fw-la petrus_n unde_fw-la &_o cephas_n appellatus_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la una_fw-la cathedra_fw-la unitas_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la servaretur_fw-la ne_fw-la caeteri_fw-la apostoli_fw-la singulas_fw-la sibi_fw-la quisqu_fw-la defendeâ—ent_fw-la ut_fw-la jam_fw-la schismaticus_fw-la &_o peccator_fw-la esset_fw-la qui_fw-la contra_fw-la singularem_fw-la cathedram_fw-la alteram_fw-la collocaret_fw-la ergo_fw-la cathedra_fw-la unica_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o again_o de_fw-fr dotibus_fw-la supradâ—ctâ—_n cathedra_fw-la est_fw-la prima_fw-la quam_fw-la probavimus_fw-la per_fw-la petrum_fw-la nostram_fw-la esse_fw-la and_o st._n austin_n epist_n 102._o prope_fw-la initium_fw-la say_v in_o ecclesia_fw-la romana_fw-la semper_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la viguit_fw-la principatus_fw-la and_o apud_fw-la brereley_o pag._n 106.107_o at_o 5â—_n margin_n in_o bullingers_n decade_n in_o english_a on_o the_o page_n next_o before_o the_o first_o decad_n be_v set_v down_o the_o creed_n of_o bless_a damasus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o end_n of_o that_o page_n be_v also_o set_v down_o the_o imperial_a decree_n of_o the_o emperor_n gratian_n valentinian_n and_o theodosius_n to_o embrace_v the_o religion_n teach_v by_o damasus_n and_o peter_n of_o alexandria_n whereof_o see_v brereley_o tract_n 1._o sect_n 8._o subd_v 1._o fine_a in_o the_o margin_n at_o 6._o bless_a that_o med_n that_o mr._n cartwright_n in_o his_o reply_n part_n 1._o pag._n 502._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la and_o in_o proof_n thereof_o he_o allege_v there_o in_o his_o margin_n zozoman_n hiss_v lib._n 6._o c._n 23._o post_n med_n he_o speak_v in_o the_o dragon_n voice_n when_o he_o shame_v not_o to_o write_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n sentence_n be_v alove_v all_o other_o to_o be_v attend_v for_o in_o a_o synod_n and_o mr._n whitaker_n confess_v the_o ecclesiastical_a initio_fw-la ecclesiastical_a whitaker_n de_fw-fr conciliis_fw-la etc._n etc._n q._n 2._o pag._n 42._o sine_fw-la 43._o initio_fw-la canon_n of_o those_o time_n whereby_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o no_o council_n shall_v be_v celebrate_v without_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o canon_n that_o ibid._n pag._n 44._o pavio_fw-la ante_fw-la med_n say_v bereof_o fatemur_fw-la julium_n sibi_fw-la talem_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la vendicasse_fw-la and_o mr._n cartwright_n in_o his_o 2._o reply_n part_n 1._o pag._n 510._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n say_v julius_z bishop_n of_o rome_n say_v it_o be_v decree_v by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o church_n and_o immediate_o after_o the_o nicene_n council_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n must_v be_v call_v to_o the_o synod_n and_o that_o that_o be_v void_a which_o be_v do_v there_o beside_o his_o sentence_n and_o see_v part_n 2._o pag._n 110._o circa_fw-la med_n this_o appear_v more_o plain_o in_o socrates_n and_o the_o tripartite_a history_n for_o whereas_o the_o arian_n have_v affemble_v a_o council_n at_o antioch_n whereat_o maximus_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o julius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v both_o of_o they_o absent_a yet_o be_v the_o only_a absence_n of_o julius_n special_o fetch_v down_o as_o the_o only_a cause_n of_o disannul_v the_o say_a council_n and_o so_o according_o it_o be_v say_v maximus_n bishop_n of_o jerusalem_n be_v absent_a from_o thence_o etc._n etc._n neither_o be_v julius_n bishop_n of_o the_o great_a rome_n present_v thereat_o neither_o do_v he_o appoint_v any_o in_o his_o place_n whereas_o yet_o the_o eccelesiastical_a canon_n do_v command_v that_o no_o council_n ought_v to_o be_v celebrate_v without_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n hist_o tripartit_fw-la l._n 4._o c_o 9_o &_o socrates_n l._n 2._o c._n 5._o &_o see_v histor_n tripart_n l._n 4._o c._n 19_o and_o see_v l._n 5._o c._n 29._o also_o in_o socrates_n l._n 2._o c._n 13._o julius_n do_v according_o allege_v this_o canon_n julius_n make_v challenge_v thereby_o for_o which_o etc._n which_o and_o whereas_o bellarmine_n do_v object_v this_o example_n of_o julius_n and_o other_o bishop_n of_o rome_n allege_v this_o canon_n danaeus_n his_o only_a answer_n be_v that_o this_o objection_n nullius_fw-la est_fw-la momenti_fw-la nam_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsius_fw-la romani_fw-la pontificis_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la partis_fw-la in_o sva_fw-la causa_fw-la testimonio_fw-la profertur_fw-la in_o resp_n ad_fw-la bellarm._n part_n 1._o p._n 595._o circa_fw-la med_n at_o quarta_fw-la ratio_fw-la etc._n etc._n danaeus_n reprove_v he_o and_o certain_a other_o bishop_n of_o rome_n also_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o 2._o that_o m._n symonds_n upon_o the_o revelation_n cap._n 5._o pag._n 45._o post_n med_n see_v also_o cent._n 4._o col_fw-fr 550._o lin_v 32._o and_o innocentius_n epist_n ad_fw-la victoricum_n cap._n 2._o damasus_n write_v to_o the_o council_n of_o africa_n that_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o cause_n of_o bishop_n and_o all_o other_o matter_n of_o great_a importance_n may_v not_o be_v determine_v but_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o apostolic_a sea_n and_o that_o according_o etc._n according_o see_v this_o in_o mr._n cartwright_n 2._o reply_n part_n 1._o pag._n 501._o initio_fw-la and_o the_o conturist_n cent_n 4._o col_fw-fr 529._o lin_v 19_o say_v romani_fw-la episcopi_fw-la regulam_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la omne_fw-la praescribi_fw-la primum_fw-la mandarent_fw-la ut_fw-la patet_fw-la ex_fw-la epistola_fw-la lulii_fw-la apud_fw-la athanasium_fw-la apologia_fw-la secunda_fw-la inquit_fw-la enim_fw-la julius_n and_o ignari_fw-la estis_fw-la hanc_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la primum_fw-la nobis_fw-la scribatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n julius_z bishop_n of_o rome_n at_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n outreach_v in_o claim_v the_o hear_n of_o cause_n that_o appertain_v not_o to_o he_o in_o like_a manner_n concern_v appeal_v make_v to_o rome_n it_o be_v testify_v that_o africa_n that_o mr._n symonds_n upon_o the_o revelation_n cap._n 5._o pag._n 53._o fine_a and_o see_v the_o like_a in_o damasus_n epist_n 2._o ad_fw-la stephanum_n &_o ad_fw-la concilia_fw-la africa_n julius_n decree_v that_o whosoever_o suspect_v his_o judge_n may_v appeal_v to_o the_o sea_n of_o rome_n that_o also_o theodoret_n a_o greek_a father_n who_o live_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o this_o century_n and_o be_v depose_v by_o the_o second_o council_n of_o ephâ—sus_n etc._n ephâ—sus_n see_v cent._n 5._o col_fw-fr 1013_o lin_v 12._o it_o be_v say_v of_o theodoret_n appellat_fw-la ad_fw-la judicium_fw-la leonis_fw-la eique_fw-la supplicat_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o
haec_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la juxta_fw-la canonem_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o plain_o do_v he_o acknowledge_v thereby_o a_o former_a canon_n epiphanius_n the_o most_o ancient_a celsum_fw-la ancient_a origen_n in_o num._n hom_n 23._o say_v certum_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la impeditur_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la indesinens_fw-la iis_fw-la qui_fw-la conjugalibus_fw-la necessitatibus_fw-la serviunt_fw-la unde_fw-la videtur_fw-la mihi_fw-la quòd_fw-la illius_fw-la est_fw-la solius_fw-la offer_n sacrificium_fw-la indesinens_fw-la qui_fw-la indesinenti_fw-la &_o perpetuae_fw-la se_fw-la devoverit_fw-la castiati_fw-la see_v this_o say_n of_o origen_n confess_v and_o reject_v as_o be_v against_o priest_n marriage_n by_o chemnit_fw-la we_o in_fw-la he_o examen_fw-la part_n 3._o pag._n 50._o a._n initio_fw-la &_o vide_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 58._o b._n post_o med_n &_o vide_fw-la origen_n in_o levit._n hom_n 4._o &_o l._n 8._o contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la origen_n and_o also_o even_o by_o that_o contrary_a that_o misapply_v for_o that_o many_o learned_a protestant_n do_v urge_v it_o in_o proof_n of_o priest_n marriage_n whereas_o it_o prove_v the_o contrary_a misapply_v if_o not_o untrue_a example_n of_o paphnutius_fw-la whereof_o many_o probability_n be_v appear_v as_o first_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o any_o mention_n make_v of_o this_o matter_n by_o any_o who_o write_v of_o the_o nycene_n council_n before_o socrates_n time_n as_o neither_o by_o eusebius_n athanasius_n epiphanius_n theodoret_n nor_o yet_o so_o much_o as_o by_o ruffinus_n who_o hist_o l._n 1._o write_v many_o thing_n of_o paphnutius_fw-la and_o of_o the_o nycene_n council_n and_o can_v then_o all_o these_o be_v silent_a of_o so_o great_a a_o matter_n &_o so_o earnest_o debate_v in_o the_o nycene_n council_n second_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v against_o the_o 3._o canon_n of_o the_o nycene_n council_n which_o altogether_o forbid_v priest_n to_o have_v dwell_v with_o they_o any_o woman_n other_o than_o their_o mother_n sister_n their_o father_n sister_n their_o mother_n sister_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o if_o as_o socrates_n report_v in_o the_o example_n of_o paphnutius_fw-la the_o council_n have_v leave_v liberty_n for_o marry_a lay-man_n afterward_o make_v priest_n to_o have_v keep_v still_o their_o former_a wife_n why_o then_o be_v not_o the_o wife_n first_o place_v here_o in_o the_o exception_n but_o altogether_o omit_v if_o answer_n be_v make_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o cause_n of_o suspicion_n with_o the_o wife_n it_o be_v reply_v thereto_o that_o if_o the_o council_n have_v retain_v any_o such_o employ_v consideration_n why_o yet_o be_v there_o not_o exception_n also_o for_o the_o wife_n woman-servant_n as_o well_o or_o rather_o than_o for_o the_o other_o or_o indeed_o why_o be_v there_o any_o such_o exception_n at_o all_o of_o mother_n sister_n or_o aunt_n can_v there_o be_v conceive_v any_o such_o danger_n of_o suspicion_n with_o these_o against_o he_o that_o may_v lawful_o keep_v his_o wife_n this_o canon_n therefore_o of_o the_o nycene_n council_n be_v so_o direct_v therein_o that_o our_o learned_a adversary_n osiander_n in_o his_o epitome_n etc._n etc._n cent_n 4._o pag._n 123._o in_o can_v 3._o have_v no_o other_o evasion_n but_o to_o answer_v that_o this_o prohibition_n be_v make_v to_o such_o of_o the_o clergy_n as_o do_v voluntary_o live_v chaste_a and_o what_o else_o be_v this_o but_o implicatio_fw-la in_o adjecto_fw-la for_o if_o this_o chastity_n be_v in_o they_o but_o voluntary_a how_o then_o be_v they_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o this_o council_n altogether_o prohibit_v it_o be_v no_o less_o than_o plain_a contradiction_n for_o which_o cause_n martin_n luther_n tom_n 2._o germ._n jenae_n fol._n 97._o say_v hereof_o i_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o this_o nycene_n council_n because_o it_o forbid_v he_o who_o have_v geld_v himself_o to_o be_v make_v priest_n and_o also_o command_v the_o clergy_n to_o have_v none_o dwell_v with_o they_o but_o their_o mother_n sister_n etc._n etc._n have_v the_o holy_a ghost_n no_o other_o thing_n to_o do_v in_o council_n but_o to_o bind_v his_o minister_n to_o such_o impose_v dangerous_a and_o not_o necessary_a law_n three_o the_o 2._o council_n of_o arles_n celebrate_v soon_o after_o the_o nycene_n council_n giving_z mention_n and_o allowance_n thereof_o can_v 10._o and_o make_v most_o of_o its_o canon_n in_o imitation_n of_o the_o nycene_n council_n decreeth_n can_v 2._o &_o 3._o most_o plain_o against_o such_o priest_n accompany_v of_o their_o wife_n as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o osiander_n in_o epitome_n etc._n etc._n centur_fw-la 4._o pag._n 195._o in_o can_v 3._o which_o it_o will_v never_o have_v do_v if_o so_o the_o nycene_n council_n but_o so_o late_o before_o have_v leave_v the_o matter_n at_o liberty_n and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o the_o no_o less_o ancient_a council_n call_v elibertinum_n can_v 27._o &_o 33._o and_o of_o concilium_fw-la telense_v can_n 9_o and_o concilium_fw-la 2._o carthaginense_n can_v 2._o &_o council_n 5._o carthag_n can_v 3._o &_o council_n 1._o tolet._n can_v 1._o also_o of_o epiphanius_n who_o as_o before_o at_o h._n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v against_o the_o canon_n and_o st._n hierom_n who_o advers._fw-la vigilant_a c._n 1._o affirm_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o east_n of_o egypt_n and_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a to_o be_v that_o if_o their_o priest_n be_v before_o their_o priesthood_n former_o marry_v mariti_fw-la esse_fw-la desinunt_fw-la they_o give_v over_o their_o wife_n affirm_v as_o before_o that_o all_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n know_v they_o may_v not_o offer_v sacrifice_n if_o they_o use_v the_o act_n of_o marriage_n upon_o all_o which_o premise_n it_o be_v now_o refer_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n whether_o it_o be_v more_o reasonable_a to_o think_v that_o so_o many_o father_n and_o council_n live_v before_o socrates_n the_o first_o author_n of_o this_o report_n concern_v paphnutius_fw-la and_o vary_v from_o he_o in_o this_o point_n err_v or_o rather_o that_o socrates_n live_v after_o they_o all_o shall_v err_v in_o his_o singular_a and_o contrary_a report_n hereof_o especial_o consider_v aswell_o that_o the_o foresay_a 3._o canon_n of_o the_o nycene_n council_n itself_o direct_o as_o before_o confute_v his_o say_a report_n as_o also_o for_o that_o he_o be_v as_o yet_o otherwise_o discover_v for_o a_o suspect_a writer_n and_o of_o no_o credit_n in_o his_o report_n of_o those_o matter_n wherein_o he_o be_v find_v dissent_v from_o the_o other_o more_o ancient_a writer_n and_o be_v in_o such_o respect_n hold_v chargeable_a by_o the_o ancient_a father_n evagrius_n hist_o l._n 1._o c._n 5._o and_o more_o full_o by_o mr._n whitgift_n late_a lord_n archbishop_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 350._o post_n med_n and_o be_v also_o yet_o further_o by_o nicephorus_n l._n 6._o c._n 13._o &_o l._n 6._o c._n 37._o and_o by_o mr._n whitgift_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 350._o post_n med_n note_v to_o have_v be_v a_o novatian_a who_o error_n as_o appear_v by_o socrates_n himself_n l._n 5._o c._n 20._o be_v that_o the_o obs_a vation_n of_o easter_n be_v but_o a_o matter_n of_o indifferency_n in_o behalf_n whereof_o socrates_n l._n 5._o c._n 21._o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v no_o law_n of_o the_o church_n to_o force_v man_n otherwise_o most_o false_o and_o direct_o against_o council_n antiochen_n can_v 1._o and_o many_o other_o no_o less_o ancient_a testimony_n of_o the_o nycene_n council_n and_o of_o epiphanius_n austin_n and_o theodoret_n confess_v by_o mr._n d._n covel_n in_o his_o examination_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o plea_n of_o the_o innocent_a pag._n 65._o ante_fw-la med_n as_o also_o in_o like_a untrue_a manner_n and_o to_o give_v colour_n to_o his_o suppose_a indifferency_n of_o thing_n he_o in_o the_o same_o place_n affirm_v the_o like_a indifferency_n of_o fasting-day_n abstinence_n from_o certain_a meat_n and_o sundry_a other_o point_n most_o clear_o against_o the_o confess_a testimony_n of_o all_o antiquity_n among_o which_o this_o his_o report_n of_o like_a pretend_a indifferency_n father_v by_o he_o upon_o paphnutius_fw-la in_o the_o case_n of_o marry_a priest_n accompany_v their_o wife_n be_v think_v most_o probable_o to_o be_v one_o as_o for_o zozomenus_n like_o report_n of_o paphnutius_fw-la he_o live_v after_o socrates_n and_o as_o the_o protestant_a writer_n gauvinus_n in_o his_o palma_n christiana_n pag._n 103._o affirm_v but_o follow_v socrates_n in_o his_o report_n hereof_o be_v also_o a_o writer_n otherwise_o reprove_v by_o st._n gregory_n quoniam_fw-la multa_fw-la mentitur_fw-la l._n 6._o ep._n 31._o his_o testimony_n be_v sufficient_o confute_v by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v in_o answer_n to_o the_o testimony_n of_o socrates_n for_o this_o cause_n doctrine_n cause_n it_o do_v appear_v by_o socrates_n hiss_v l._n 1._o c._n 8._o ante_fw-la med_n &_o zozo_n hist_o l._n 1._o c._n 22._o and_o by_o the_o century_n writer_n cent_n 4._o
as_o well_o as_o they_o therefore_o we_o catholic_n have_v the_o life_n and_o substance_n of_o religion_n pag._n 60._o in_o the_o prime_a ground_n or_o principle_n of_o christian_a religion_n we_o have_v not_o forsake_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n therefore_o he_o grant_v that_o we_o have_v the_o prime_a ground_n or_o fundamental_a article_n of_o religion_n pag._n 11._o for_o those_o catholic_n verity_n which_o she_o the_o roman_a church_n retain_v we_o yield_v she_o a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_n though_o one_o of_o the_o most_o unsound_a and_o corrupt_a member_n in_o this_o sense_n the_o romanist_n may_v be_v call_v catholic_n behold_v we_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n which_o can_v not_o be_v if_o we_o err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a point_n by_o the_o way_n if_o the_o romanist_n may_v be_v call_v catholic_n why_o may_v not_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v term_v catholic_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v that_o argument_n which_o protestant_n be_v wont_a to_o urge_v against_o we_o and_o potter_n in_o particular_a in_o this_o very_a place_n not_o consider_v that_o he_o impugn_v himself_o while_o he_o speak_v against_o we_o not_o distinguish_v between_o universal_a as_o logician_n speak_v of_o it_o which_o signify_v one_o common_a thing_n abstract_n or_o abstract_v from_o all_o particular_n and_o catholic_n as_o it_o be_v take_v in_o true_a divinity_n for_o the_o church_n spread_v over_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o be_v all_o church_n which_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a and_o upon_o that_o vain_a conceit_n tell_v his_o unlearned_a reader_n that_o universal_a and_o particular_a be_v term_n repugnant_a and_o consequent_o one_o can_v be_v affirm_v of_o the_o other_o that_o be_v say_v i_o catholic_n can_v be_v affirm_v of_o d._n potter_n nor_o d._n potter_n say_v to_o be_v a_o catholic_n because_o a_o particular_a can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v universal_a or_o a_o universal_a pag._n 75._o to_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o some_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n there_o may_v be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n want_v nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n pag._n 70._o they_o the_o roman_a doctor_n confess_v that_o set_v aside_o all_o matter_n controvert_v the_o main_a positive_a truth_n wherein_o all_o agree_v be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o every_o good_a christian_a both_o for_o his_o knowledge_n and_o for_o his_o practice_n teach_v he_o what_o to_o believe_v and_o how_o to_o live_v so_o as_o he_o may_v be_v save_v his_o say_n that_o the_o roman_a doctor_n confess_v that_o set_v aside_o all_o matter_n controvert_v etc._n etc._n be_v very_o untrue_a it_o be_v manifest_a that_o catholic_n believe_v protestant_n to_o err_v damnable_o both_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o practice_v yet_o his_o word_n convince_v ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o we_o have_v all_o that_o be_v necessary_a yea_o and_o abundant_o sufficient_a both_o for_o knowledge_n and_o practice_v for_o we_o to_o be_v save_v and_o then_o he_o discourse_v of_o the_o doctrine_n wherein_o we_o differ_v from_o protestant_n say_v pag._n 74._o if_o the_o mistaker_n will_v suppose_v his_o roman_a church_n and_o religion_n purge_v from_o these_o and_o the_o like_v confess_v excess_n and_o novelty_n he_o shall_v find_v in_o that_o which_o remain_v little_a difference_n of_o importance_n between_o we_o therefore_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la we_o believe_v all_o thing_n of_o importance_n which_o protestant_n believe_v after_o these_o word_n without_o any_o interruption_n he_o go_v forward_o and_o say_v pag._n 75._o but_o by_o this_o discourse_n the_o mistaker_n happy_o may_v believe_v his_o cause_n to_o be_v advantage_v and_o may_v reply_v if_o rome_n want_v nothing_o essential_a to_o religion_n or_o to_o a_o church_n how_o then_o can_v the_o reformer_n justify_v their_o separation_n from_o that_o church_n or_o free_v themselves_o from_o damnable_a schism_n do_v not_o this_o discourse_n prove_v and_o the_o objection_n which_o he_o raise_v from_o it_o suppose_v that_o we_o want_v nothing_o essential_a to_o religion_n otherwise_o this_o objection_n which_o he_o make_v to_o himself_o be_v clear_o impertinent_a and_o foolish_a if_o he_o can_v have_v dispatch_v all_o by_o say_v we_o err_v in_o essential_a point_n which_o have_v be_v a_o evident_a and_o more_o than_o a_o just_a cause_n to_o justify_v their_o separation_n which_o yet_o appear_v further_o by_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o say_a objection_n that_o to_o depart_v from_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o namely_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o some_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n there_o may_v be_v just_a and_o necessary_a cause_n though_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n want_v nothing_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o afterward_o in_o the_o next_o pag._n 76._o speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o say_v express_o her_o communion_n we_o forsake_v not_o no_o more_o than_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o we_o acknowledge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o member_n though_o corrupt_v and_o this_o clear_v we_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o schism_n who_o property_n it_o be_v to_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n the_o church_n from_o which_o it_o separate_v but_o if_o she_o do_v err_v in_o any_o one_o fundamental_a point_n by_o that_o very_a error_n she_o will_v cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o shall_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o hope_n of_o salvation_n therefore_o she_o do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n p._n 83._o we_o be_v never_o disjoin_v from_o she_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o those_o main_a essential_a truth_n which_o give_v she_o the_o name_n and_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n you_o must_v then_o say_v that_o she_o err_v not_o in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n for_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o church_n can_v subsist_v with_o any_o such_o error_n and_o that_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o desirous_a he_o be_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v believe_v catholic_n &_o protestant_n not_o to_o differ_v in_o the_o essence_n of_o religion_n he_o add_v these_o word_n immediate_o after_o those_o which_o we_o have_v last_o cite_v whereof_o if_o the_o mistaker_n doubt_n he_o may_v be_v better_o inform_v by_o some_o late_a roman_n catholic_n writer_n one_o of_o france_n who_o have_v purposely_o in_o a_o large_a treatise_n prove_v as_o he_o believe_v the_o hugonot_n and_o catholic_n of_o that_o kingdom_n to_o be_v all_o of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o religion_n because_o of_o truth_n agree_v upon_o by_o both_o and_o another_o of_o our_o country_n as_o it_o be_v say_v who_o have_v late_o publish_v a_o large_a catalogue_n of_o learned_a author_n both_o papist_n and_o protestant_n who_o be_v all_o of_o the_o same_o mind_n thus_o you_o see_v he_o ransack_v all_o kind_n of_o proof_n to_o show_v that_o catholic_n and_o protestant_n differ_v not_o in_o the_o substance_n and_o essence_n of_o faith_n and_o to_o that_o end_n cite_v for_o catholic_n writer_n those_o two_o who_o can_v be_v no_o catholic_n as_o charity_n maintain_v part_n 1._o chap._n 3._o pag._n 104._o show_v the_o former_a in_o particular_a to_o be_v a_o plain_a heretic_n or_o rather_o atheist_n lucian-like_a jest_v at_o all_o religion_n pag._n 78._o he_o say_v we_o hope_v and_o think_v very_o well_o of_o all_o those_o holy_a and_o devout_a soul_n which_o in_o former_a age_n live_v and_o dye_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n nay_o our_o charity_n reach_v further_a to_o all_o those_o at_o this_o day_n who_o in_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n believe_v the_o roman_a religion_n and_o profess_v it_o to_o these_o word_n of_o the_o doctor_n if_o we_o subsume_v but_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o any_o can_v be_v save_v even_o by_o ignorance_n or_o any_o simplicity_n of_o heart_n if_o he_o err_v in_o a_o fundamental_a point_n because_o as_o by_o every_o such_o error_n a_o church_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n so_o every_o particular_a person_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o true_a church_n the_o conclusion_n will_v be_v that_o we_o do_v not_o err_v in_o any_o fundamental_a point_n nay_o pag._n 79._o he_o say_v further_a we_o believe_v it_o the_o roman_a religion_n safe_a that_o be_v by_o god_n great_a mercy_n not_o damnable_a to_o some_o such_o as_o believe_v what_o they_o profess_v but_o we_o believe_v it_o not_o safe_a but_o very_o dangerous_a if_o not_o certain_o damnable_a to_o such_o as_o profess_v it_o when_o they_o believe_v or_o if_o their_o heart_n be_v upright_o and_o not_o perverse_o obstinate_a may_v believe_v the_o contrary_a behold_v we_o be_v not_o only_o in_o a_o possibility_n to_o be_v save_v we_o be_v even_o safe_a upon_o condition_n we_o believe_v that_o faith_n to_o be_v true_a which_o we_o profess_v and_o for_o which_o we_o have_v suffer_v so_o long_o so_o great_a and_o so_o many_o