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A05142 The seconde [seventh] sermon of Maister Hughe Latimer which he preached before the Kynges Maiestie [with?]in his graces palayce at Westminster, ye xv. day of Marche [-xix daye of Apryll], M.ccccc.xlix. Latimer, Hugh, 1485?-1555. 1549 (1549) STC 15274.7; ESTC S122869 128,935 442

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wrought in hyr When she was brought to punishment she desyred to cōfesse hyr faulte she toke of hyr death that she was giltlesse in that thynge she suffered for and hyr neyghbours would haue borne hyr wytnes in the same She was alwayes an honeste ciuell woman hyr neyghbours woulde haue gone on hir purgacion a greate waye They would nedes haue hir confesse then saith she I am not gylty wold ye haue me to make me gyltye wher I am not Yet for al thys she was a trespasar she had done a greate offence But before I go forward with thys I must first tel you a tale I hearde a good whyle ago a tale of one I saw the mā that tolde me the tale not longe ago in thys auditorye He hath traueiled in mo countries thē one He toulde me that there was once a pretour in Rome Lorde mayre of Rome a ryche manne one of the richest marchauntes in all the cytye sodaynelye he was caste in the castle Aungell It was herde of euerye man whispered in an others eare What hath he done Hathe he kylled anye man No. Hath he medled wyth Alam oure holye fathers marchādice No Hath he coūterfaited our holy fathers Bulles No. For these were hye treasons ▪ One rowned an other in the ear and said Erat Diues He was a riche man A great fault Here was a goodlye pray for that holye father It was in Popes Iulius tyme he was a greate warrioure Thys praye would healpe hym to mayntayne hys warres a ioly praye for our holy father So thys woman was Diues She was a rych womā she had her lādes by the Shiriffes nose He was a gentil man of a long nose Such a cup such a couer She wold not depart from her own Thys Shyriffe was a couetnouse man a worldely man The Iudge at the enpanelyng of the queste hadde hys grauelookes and charged them wyth thys It was the Kynges matter loke well vpon it When it makes for their purpurpose they haue the Kynge the kynge in theyr mouthes Wel some what there was ther was walkynge of angelles betwene them I would wishe that of suche a Iudge in Englande nowe we might haue y e skin hāged vp It were a goodly signe the sygne of the iudges skynne It shoulde be Lotis wyfe to all Iudges that shoulde folow after By thys ye may perceiue it is possible for a manne to answere for hym self and be arrained at the barre neuertheles to haue wronge Yea ye shall haue it in fourme of lawe and yet haue wronge to So it is possible ▪ in a case for a manne that hath in his absence ataintement to haue right no wronge I wyl not saye naye but it is a good lawe for a man to answere for him selfe this is reasonable alowable good And yet suche an vrgente cause maye be suche a respect to a commune wealth that a man may rightlye be condemned in hys absence There be such causes that a man maye in hys absence be condemned but not ofte except they be such cases that the reason of the generall lawe maye be kepte I am prouoked of some to condēpne this lawe but I am not able so it be but for a time and vpon wayghty consideraciōs so that it be vsed rarely seldomly for auoyding distrubaunce in the cōmune wealth such an epiky and moderacion maye be vsed in it And neuertheles it is verye mete and requisite that a man should answere for hym selfe ▪ We must consider the groūd of the lawe for Ratio legis anima legis The reason of the lawe is the soule of the lawe Why what is the reason and ende of the lawe It is thys that no man shoulde be iniured A man may in hys attayntmente haue no more wronge done hym then if he aunswered for hym selfe Ah then I am not able to saye that in no wise and arrainemēt maye be tourned in to attaintement A mā maye haue wronge and that in open iudgemente and in forme of lawe and yet alowed to aunswere for him self and euen so is possible he maye haue ryghte thoughe he neuer aunswere for hym selfe I wyll not say but that the parliament houses both hye and lowe may erre and yet they may do wel christen subiectes must take all thynges to the beste and expounde theyr doynges well althoughe they can not yelde a reason for it except their proceadings be manifestli wicked For though they can not attayne to se for what purpose thynges be done it is no good reasone that they be called euell done therefore And is thys a good argumente he is not alowed to answer for hym selfe in thys place or that place where he wyll appoynte Ergo he is not alowed to answere for him selfe No. He myght haue aunswered the beste he coulde for hym selfe before a greate meanye and haue hadde moe to if he had requyred theym Yea and was commaunded vpon his allegiaunce to speake for hym selfe and to make aunswere but he woulde not nedes he woulde come oute to Iudgemente and appoynte the place hym selfe A manne that answeres for hym selfe at the barre is not allowed hys manne of lawe to answere for hym but he muste aunswere hym selfe Yet in the Parliament althoughe he were not there hym selfe anye frende he had had lyberty to aunswere for him franke and fre I know of the olde manner The tenour of the wryttes is thys Euerye man to speake the best he knoweth of hys conscience for the kynges magesties honour and the wealth of the realme There were in the Paliamente in both houses a great meanye learned men conscionable men wise mē When that man was attainted there and they hadde lybertye ther to say naye to his attayntmente yf they woulde Sure I am the mooste allowed it or else it coulde not haue gone forwarde These premisses considered I woulde haue you to beare such a hert as it be commeth christen subiectes I knowe what men say of me wel ynoughe I could pourge my selfe There is that prouokes me to speake againste thys lawe of attayntemente they saye I am not indyfferente Surelye I woulde haue it to be doone rarely vpon some greate respect to the commune wealth for a uoiding of greater tumulte and peryll Saynct Paule was allowed to answere for hym selfe if Lisias the tribune hadde not plucte hym awaye from shewynge of hys matter it hadde coste hym hys lyfe Where he was saued by the magystrate beynge but a pryuate manne Wyll ye not alowe that some thyng be done as wel for sauyng of the magistrates lyfe It be houes theym of the Parliament to looke wel vpon the matter And I for my parte thyncke not but they dyd well else I should not yelde the dutye of a subiecte Some liken me to doctour Shaw that preached at Pauls crosse that Kynge Edwardes sonnes were bastardes An easy matter for one of the counsell to doctour Shaw did
to our saluacion This is the thynge that the deuill wrastleth most agaynst Yt hath bene all hys studye to decaye thys offyce He worketh agaynste it as muche as he can he hath preuayled to muche to much in it He hath set vppe a state of vnpreachynge prelacye in thys Realme this vii.c yere A state of vnprechynge prelacy He hath made vnpreachynge prelates He hath styrred vp by heapes to persecute thys offyce in y e title of heresy He hath sturred vppe the Magystrates to persecute it in the title of sedicion And he hath styrred vp the people to persecute it wyth exprobacions sclaūderous wordes as by the name of newe learnenynge straunge preacheynge and with impropriacions he hath turned preachynge in to priuate Masses If a prieste should haue left Masse vndone On a sonday within these tē yeres all Englande shoulde haue wondered at it but they mighte haue left of the sermon .xx. sondayes and neuer haue bene blamed And thus by these impropriations priuate Masses were set vp and preparynge of gods worde troden under foote Bu● what doth he nowe what doeth he now he sturres mē vp to outragious rearyng of rentes that pore mē shal not be able to find their children at the schole to be diuines What an vnreasonable deuill is thys he prouides a great while before hād for the tyme that is to come He hath broughte vppe nowe of late the most monstrouse kynde of couetousnes that euer was hearde of He hath inuented fee fermyng of benifices and al to decaye thys office of preachynge in so much that when anye man heare after shall haue a benefice he maye go where he wyll for any house he shall haue to dwell vpon or any glebe lande to kepe hospitalytye withal but he must take vp a chāber in an Alehouse there sit and playe at the tables al the day A good lye curate He hath caused also through this monstrous kynde of couetousnes patrones to sell theyr benefices Yea what doth he more He gettes him to the vniuersity and causeth gret men and esquiers to sende their sonnes thither put out poore scholars that shuld be diuines for theyr parentes entēd not thei shal be preachers but that they may haue a shewe of learnyng Tut it were to lōg to declare vnto you what desceite meanes the deuil hath foūd to decay the office of saluaciō this office of regeneratiō But to return to my mater The people came to here y e word of god thei hard hym w t I remember nowe a sayinge of Saynte Chrisostome and peraduenture it myghce come here after in better place but yet I wyll take it whiles it commeth to mind The saying is thys Et loquentem eum audierunt in silentio seriem locucionis non interrumpentes Thei herd him saith he in silēce not interruptynge the order of his preachynge He meanes they herde hym quyetlye wyth out any shouelynge of feete or walkynge vp and downe Suerly it is an yl mysorder that folke shal be walkyng vp and downe in the sermon tyme as I haue sene in thys place thys Lente and there shal be suche hussynge and bussynge in the preachers eare that it maketh hym often tymes to forget hys matter O let vs consyder the Kynges Maiestyes goodnes Thys place was prepared for bankettynge of the bodye and hys Maiestye hath made it a Place for the comforte of the soule and to haue the worde of God preached in it shewynge hereby that he would haue all hys subiectes at it if it myghte be possible Consyder what the Kynges Maiestye hath done for you he alloweth you all to here wyth hym Cōsider where ●e be Fyrst ye oughte to haue a reuerence to Goddes word and thoughe it be preached by poore men yet it is the same worde that oure Sauioure spake Consider also the presēce of the Kynges Maiestye Gods hygh vycare in earth hauynge a respecte to his personage ye ought to haue reuerēce to it consider that he is gods highe minister yet alloweth you al to be partakers with him of the herynge of gods word This benefite of his would be thankfully taken and it would be highli estemed Heare in silēce as Chrisostō sayeth It maye chaūce that sum in the cōpanie may fall sicke or be diseased If therebe any such let thē go away with silence let thē leaue their salutacions till they come in the courte let theym d●parte with silence I toke occasion of Chrisostomes wordes to admonishe you of thys thynge What shoulde be the cause that oure Sauioure Christe wente into the bote the Scripture calleth it Nauis or nauicula But it was no shyppe it it was a fyshers bote they were not able to haue a shyp What shold be the cause whi he wolde not stand on the bāke preache there but he desired Peter to drawe the bote sumwhat frō the shore into the middes of the water What should be the cause One cause was for that he might sit their more cōmodiously then on the bancke an other cause was for that he was like to be thrust into the pond of the people y t came vnto him Whi our sauiour Christ might haue with stāde thē he was strong inough to haue kept him self frō thrustynge into the water He was stronger thē they al if he had listed he myght haue stand on the water as well as he walked on the water truth it is so myghte he haue done in dede But as it was sometyme hys pleasure to shewe the power of hys Godheade so he declared nowe the infirmitie and imbecilitye of his manheade Heare he geueth vs an example what we shall do we must not tempte God by any miracles so lōg as we may walke by ordinary wayes As oure Sauioure Christe when the diuel hadde hym on the top of the tēple and woulde haue had hyd hym cast him selfe doune he made hym thys aunswere Non tētabis dominū deum 〈◊〉 Thou shalt not tempt thy lorde God as if he shoulde haue sayed We maye not tempte God at all It is no tyme nowe to shewe any miracles there is an other way to go doune by gresinges Thus he dyd to shewe vs an example that we muste not tempte God except it be in extreme necessitye and when we cannot other wayes remedy the matter to leaue it all to God elles we maye not tempte the maiestye of hys ●●yte Beware temptynge of God well he commes to Symons boote and why rather to Symons bote then an nother I wyl aūswere as I fynde in experience in my selfe I came hyther to daye frō Lambeth in a whirry and when I came to take my bote the water mē came aboute me as the maner is and he wold haue me he would haue me I toke one of them ▪ Nowe ye wyll aske me why I came in the bote rather thē in another because I woulde go in to
to put in suerties worth a thousande pounde and yet she can not be heard He thynk this is a reasonable cause it is great pitie y t such thinges shold so be I besech God that he wyl graunte that all that is amysse may be amēded y t we may heare hys word kepe it that we may come to the eternall blisse to the whych blysse I beseche GOD to bryng both you me Amen ¶ The thyrde Sermon of Mayster Hughe Latymer whych he preached before the Kynge wythin hys graces Palayce at Westminster the .xxij. daye of Marche QVecunque scripta sunt ad nostram doctrinam scripta sunt Al thinges that are wryten are wrytten to be oure doctrine All thynges that be wrytten in Gods holye Boke the Byble were wrytten to be oure doctrine longe before our tyme to serue from tyme to tyme and so forth to the worldes ende Ye shall haue in Remembraunce moste benynge and gracyouse Audience that a preacher hathe .ii. offices and the one to be vsed orderly after an other The fyrste is Exhortari per sanā doctrinam To teach true doctrine He shall haue also occasion oftentymes to vse an other that is Contradicentes conuincere To reprehende to conuynce to confute gaynesayers and spurners agaynst the truth Whye you wyll saye wyll anye bodye agayne saye true doctryne and sound doctryne Well let a preacher be sure that hys doctrine be true it is not to be thought that anye bodye wil gayne saye it If. S. Paule had not forsene that ther shold be gayne sayers he hadde not neadde to haue appoynted the confutacion of gayne sayinge Was there euer yet preachers but there were gayn sayars that spurned that winste that whympered agaynste him that blasphemed that gaynesayed it When Moyses came to Egipt wyth sounde doctrine he had Pharao to gayne saye hym Ieremy was the minister of the true worde of God he had gain sayers the priestes and the false Prophetes borne vp by Achab Ely had all Bals priestes supported by Iesabel to speake agaynste hym Iohn Baptiste and oure Sauioure Iesus Chryste had the Pharseis the Scribes and the priestes gayn sayers to theym The Apostles had gayn sayers also for it was sayde to saynct Paule at Rome Notum est nobis quod vbique secte huic contradicitur We know that euery man doth gayne say this lernynge After the Apostles tyme the trueth was gayne sayed w t tyrantes as Nero Maxentius Domicianus and suche lyke and also by the doctrine of wycked heretikes In the popysh masse tyme ther was no gayn sayinge all thynges semed to be in peace in a concorde in a quiet agrement So longe as we had in adoration in admiration the popyshe masse we were then wythoute gaynsayinge What was that Thesame y t Chryst speaketh of Cū fortis armatus custodierit atriū c. When Sathan the deuyll hath the guydynge of the house he kepeth al in peace that is in his possessyon whan Sathan ruleth and beareth dominion in open Religion as he dyd with vs whē we preached pardō matters purgatorye matters pylgremage maters all was quiet He is ware inoughe he is wily and circūspect for stiryng vp and sedicion When he kepeth his terrytory al ys in peace Yf there were anye manne that preached in England in times past in the popes tymes as peraduenture there was .ii or .iii strayght ways he was takē napped in y e head wyth the title of an heretique When he hath the religyon in possessyon he sturreth vppe no sedycyon I warrant yow How many discentyons haue we hearde of in Turkye But a fewe I warrant you He busyeth hym selfe there wyth no discention For he hath there dominion in the open Relygion neadeth not to trouble hym selfe any further The Iewes lyke ronnagates where so euer they dwell for they be disperst and be trybutaryes in all contryes where they inhabyte loke wheather ye here of anye heresyes amonge them But when fortis superuenerit whē one stronger then the Deuyll cometh in place whyche is oure Sauyour Iesus Chryste and reueleth hys worde then the Deuyll roareth then he bestyrreth hym then he rayseth diuersytye of opinions to sclaunder Gods word And yf euer cōcord shoulde haue bene in Religyon when shoulde it haue bene but when Christe was here Ye fynde faulte wyth preachers and saye they cause sedition We are noted to be rassh and vndiscret in our preachynge Yet as discrete as Chryste was ther was diuersitie yea what he was him self For when he asked what men called hym Hys Apostles answered hym Some saye you are Iohan Baptiste some saye you are Helias and some saye you are one of the prophetes and these were they that spake best of him For some sayed he was a Samaritane that he had a Deuyll wythin him a gloser a drincker a pot-companion There was neuer Prophet to be compared to hym and yet was there neuer more dyssentiō then whē he was and preached hym selfe If it were contraried thē wil ye thynke it shal not be contraried nowe when charitye is so colde and iniquitye so stronge Thus these backebyters and sclaunderers must be conuinced Saynte Paule sayed There shall be intractabiles that wyll whympe and whyne ther shall be also Vaniloqui vayne speakers For the whyche Sayncte Paule appoynteth the preacher to stoppe theyr mouthes and it is a preachers offyce to be a mouthe stopper Thys daye I muste somwhat do in the seconde offyce I muste be agayne sayer and I must stoppe theyr mouthes conuynce refell and confute that they speake sclaūderousely of me There be some gayne sayers gayne sayers for there be some sclaunderouse people vaynespeakers and intractabiles whych I muste nedes speake agaynst But fyrste I wyl make a shorte rehersall to put you in memorye of that that I spake in my last Sermon And that done I wyll confute one that sclaūdereth me For one there is y t I must nedes aunswre vnto for he sclaundreth me for my preachynge before the kynges maiestye There be some to blame that when a preacher is wearye yet they wyll haue hym speake all at once Ye must tary tyll he here more Ye must not be offended tyll ye here the rest Here all and then iudge al. What ye are very hastie very quicke with your preachers But before I enter further into thys matter I shal desier you to praye c. Fyrst of all as touchinge my fyrst sermon I wyll runne it ouer cursorie ryppynge alittle the matter I brought in an hystorye of the Byble excytynge my audience to beware of by walkynges to walke ordinatlye playnly the kynges hygh way and a gre to that which stādeth wyth the order of a Realme I shewed you how we were vnder the blessing of God for our kynge is Nobilis I shewed you we haue a noble Kynge True in heritoure to
the crowne wyth out doubte I shewed furthermore of his godly educacion He hath suche schole Maiesters as can not be gotten in all the Realme againe Wherfore we may be suer that God blessed this realme all thoughe he curssed the realme whose ruler is a chylde vnder whō the officres be clymbynge and gleyynge flurynge scratchyng and scrapynge and volupteously set on banketyng and for the maynetenaunce of theyr volupteousnes go by walkes And althoughe he be yong he hath as good and as sage acounsayle as euer was in England which we may well knowe by their godly procedinges and settynge fourthe of the worde of God Therefore lette vs not be worse then the styffe necked Iewes In kynge Iosias time who beynge yonge dyd alter chaunge and correcte wonderfully the religion it was neuer heard in Iewry that the people repyned or sayed The Kyng is a child This geare wyl not last lōge It is but one or two mens doynges It wyll not but for a tyme. The kynge knoweth it not Wo worth that euer suche men were borne Take hede lest for our rebellion God take hys blessyng a waye from vs. I entred into the place of the kynges pastyme I tolde you howe he muste passe hys tyme in readynge the boke of God for that is the kings pastime by goddes appoyntemente in the whyche boke he shal lerne to feare god Oh howe carefull God is to set in an order all thynges that belong to a kynge in his chamber in hys stable in hys treasure house These peuishe people in this Realme haue nothynge but the kynge the kinge in theyr mouthes when it maketh for their purpose As there was a doctor that preached the kynges maiestie hath his holy water he crepeth to the crosse thē thei haue nothynge but the Kynge the kynge in their mouthes These be my good people that muste haue their mouthes stopte but if a man tell them of the kinges proceadynges nowe they haue theyr shyftes and theyr puto●● saying we may not go before a lawe we maye breake no order These be the wicked preachers ther mouthes muste be stopte these be the gaynesayers Another thing ther is y t I told you of Ne eleuetur cor regis etc. The kyng must not be proude ouer his brethren He must order his people wyth brotherly loue and charitie Here I brought in ex●mples of proude Kynges It is a great pride in kynges and maiestrates when they wyll not heare nor be confortable to the ●ound doctrine of God It is an other kynde of pryde in kynges whē they thynke them selues so high so lofty that they disdaine thinke it not for their honour to heare poore mens causes thē selues They haue claubackes y t say vnto thē What sir What nede you to trouble your selfe take you youre pleasure hunte Hauke daunce and dallye let vs a lone we wyll gouerne and order the commune weale matters well ynoughe We worth them they haue bene the rote of al myschiefe and destruccion in thys Realme A kynge ought not only for to reade and studye but also to praye Let hym borowe example at Salomon who pleased God hyghlye wyth his peticion desyringe no worldely thynges but wysdom which God did not onely graūt hym but because he asked wysedome he gaue hym manye mo thynges As ryches honoure and such lyke Oh how it pleased God that he asked wysdom● And after he had geuē him this wisdome he sent hym also occasion to vse the same by a couple of strumpets Here I told an example of a meke kynge who so continued vntyll he came into the company of strange women He herd them not by meanes or by anye other but in hys owne person and I thinke verely the naturall mother had neuer had her own child if he had not herd the cause hym selfe They were ●eritrices Hoores althoughe some excuseth the matter say they were but typplers suche as kepe alehouses But it is but foly to excuse thē seing the Iewes were such not vnlike but thei had theyr stewes the mayntenaūce of whordom as they had of other vices One thynge I must here desier you to reforme my lords You haue put downe the Stues But I praye you what is the matter a mended what a uayleth that ye haue but changed the place not taken the whordome awaye God shoulde be honored euery where For the scripture sayth Domini es terra et plenitudo eius The earth and the lād is the Lords What place shoulde be then wythin a Christiā realme left for to dishonour God I must nedes shewe you such newes as I here For thoughe I se it not my selfe not withstāding it cometh faster to me then I wold wyshe I do as s. Paule doth to the Corinthiās Auditur in uos stuprum There is such a whordome amonge you as is not amonge the gentiles So lykewyse Auditu I here say hate ther is suche whordome in Englande as neuer was sene the lyke He charged all the Corinthians for one mans offence sayinge They were al gilty for one mans synne if they woulde not correcte and redresse it but wynke at it Lo here may you se how that one mans synne poluted al Corinth A litle leauen as S. Paulle sayeth corrupteth a greate deale of dowe Thys is Communicare alienis pecatis to be partaker of other mens sines I aduertise you in Goddes nanie loke to it I here sai ther is now more whoredome in London thē euer ther was on the banke These be the newes I haue to tell you I feare they be true Ye oughte to here of it and redresse it I here of it as Paul sayth Aliqua ex par●e credo There is more open whordome more stuede whoredome then euer was before For Gods sake let it be loked vpon It is youre office to se vnto it Nowe to my confutacion Ther is a certaine man that shortely after my first sermon beynge asked if he had bene at the sermon that daye answerd yea I praye you sayd he how lyked you hym mary sayed he euen as I lyked hym alwayes a sedicious fellowe Oh lord he pinched me their in dede Nay he had rather a ful bitte at me Yet I comfort my self with that that Christ hym selfe was noted to be a sturrer vp of the people agaynst the Emperour and was contented to be called sediclouse It be commech me to take it in good worth I am not better then he was In the kings daies that dead is a meanye of vs were called together before hym to saye our myndes in certayne matters In the end one kneleth me downe and accuseth me of sediciō that I had preached sediciouse doctrine A heauye salutacion and a harde poynt of suche a mans doynge as yf I shoulde name hym ye woulde not thinke it The king turned to me and sayed What say you to that syr
doeth not tell vs what he taughte If I were a papist I coulde tell what he sayde I woulde in the Popes iudgemente shewe what he taught For the Byshop of Rome hath in scrimio pectoris sui The true vnderstandyng of Scriptures Yf he call a counsayle the colledge of Cardinalles he hathe authority to determyne the supper of the Lorde as he dyd at y e counsayle of Florence And Pope Nicolas and Byshoppe Langfrancke shal come and expounde thys place and saye that oure Sauioure Christe sayed thus Peter I do meane thys by syttynge in thy bote that thou shalte goo to Rome and be Byshoppe there fyue and twentie yeares after myne ascension And all thy successours shall be rulers of y e vniuersal churche after the. Heare woulde I place also holye water and hollye breade al vnwrytten verites if I were a Papyste and that Scripture is not to be expoundyd by anye priuate interpretacion but by oure holye father and hys colledge of Cardinalles Thys is a greate deale better place then duc in altum But what was Coristes sermon it maye sone be gathered what it was He is alwayes lyke hym selfe Hys fyrste Sermon was penitēci●m agite Do pennaunce youre lyuynge is naught repente Agayne at Nazareth when he redde in the temple and preached remission of synnes and healynge of woundyd consciences and in the longe sermon in the mount he was alwayes lyke hym selfe he neuer dissented from hym selfe O there is a writer hathe a ioylie texte here and his name is Dionisimus I chaunced to meate wyth hys boke in my Lorde of Caunterberyes lybrarye he was a Monke of the charterhouse I m●ruayle to fynde suche a sentence is that authour What taugth Christ in thys sermon Mary sayeth he it is not written ▪ And he addeth more vnto it Euangeliste tantum scripser●●● de ser●●onibus et miraculis cristi quantum ●●gnonerunt inspirante deo sufficere ad edificacionem ecclesie ad confirmacionē fidei et ad salutem animarum It is true it is not written Al hys miracles were not wrytten so neyther were all his sermons written yet for all y t the euāgelistes dyd wryte so muche as was necessary They wrote so muche if the myracles and sermons of Christ as they knewe by godes inspiracion to be sufficiēt for y ● edifiyng of the churche the cōfirmacion of oure fayeth and the health of oure soules If thys be true as it is in dede ▪ where be on wryttē verities I meruayle not at the sentence but to fynde it in suche an authour Iesus what authoriti he giues to goddes worde But GOD woulde that suche men shoulde be wytnesse with the auctoritye of his boke wyl they nyll they Nowe to drawe towardes an ende It foloweth in the texte duc in altum Here cometh in the supremicye of the Byshoppe of Rome When oure Sauioure Christ had made an ende of his sermō and had fed their soules he prouided for theyr bodies Fyrst he began with the soule Christes word is the fode of it Nowe he goeth to the bodye he hath charge of them bo●th we must commit the fedynge of the bodye and of the soule to hym Well he sayeth to Peter duc in altum Launche into the depth put forth thy bote farther into the deepe of the water Lose youre nettes nowe fyshe As who shoulde saye youre soules are now fedde I haue taught you my doctrine nowe I wyll confirme it wyth a miracle Lo sir here is duc in altum Here Peter ●as made a greate man saye ●he Papystes and all his successours after hym And thys is deriued of these few wordes Launch into the deepe And theyr argumente is thys he spake to Peter onelye and he spake to hym in the syngulare number ergo he gaue hym such a preeminence a boue the rest A goodly argument I wene it be a sillogismus in quem terra pontus I wil make a like argumcē Oure Sauioure Christe sayed to Iudas when he was about to betraye hym quod fac citius Nowe whan he spake to Peter there were none of his disciples by but Iames and Iohn but when he spake to Iudas they were all presēt Wel he said vn ot hym quod sacis fac citius Sped thy busynes y t thou hast in thy head do it He gaue hym here a secret monicion that he knewe what he intended if Iudas had had grace to haue taken it and repented He spake in the singular number to hym ergo he gaue hym some preeminence By like he made hym a Cardynall and it mighte full well be for they haue folowed Iudas euer sens Here is as good a grounde for the Coledge of Cardinalles as the other is for the supremitie of the Bishop of Rome Our Sauiour Christ say they spake onely to Peter for preeminence because he was cheife of the Apostles and you can shewe none other cause Ergo thys is the cause why he spake to hym in the syngular number I dare saye there is neuer a whirrimā at Westminster brydge but he can answere to thys and gyue a naturall reason of it He knoweth that one man is able to shoue the bote ▪ but one man was not able to caste out the nettes and therefore he sayed in the plurall nomber larate retia Louse youre nettes and he sayd in the syngular number to Peter launch out the bote why because he was able to do it But he spake the other in the plural nomber because he was not able to conuaye the bote and cast out the nettes to One man coulde not do it Thys woulde the whirry man saye and that wyth better reason then to make suche a misterie of it as no man can spye but they And the cause why he spake to all was to shewe that he wyll haue all Christē men to worcke for theyr lyuynge It is he that sendes foode both for the body and soule but he wyll not sende it wythout laboure He wyll haue all Christen people to laboure for it he wyll vse oure laboure as a meane whereby he sendeth oure foode Thys was a wounderous myracle of oure Sauioure Christe and dyd it not onely to allure them to hys discipleshippe but also for our commoditye It was a seale a seale to seale hys doctrine wyth all Nowe ye knowe that suche as be kepars of seales as my Lorde Chauncelour and suche other what so euer they be they do not all wayes seale they haue a sealynge tyme For I haue herde poore men complayne that they haue bene put of from tyme to time of sealynge tyll all theyr monye were spent and as thei haue times to seale in so our Sauioure Christ had his time of sealinge When he was here in earth wyth hys Apostlees and in the tyme of the primitiue churche Christes doctrine was sufficientelye sealed alredy wyth seales of hys owne makynge what shoulde oure seales do What nede we to