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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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23_o deal_n and_o p._n 3._o l._n 10_o r._n vid._n scheibler_n p._n 4._o l._n 1._o r._n know_v not_o how_o l._n 11._o r_o unto_o such_o act_n and_o it_o be_v l._n 15._o r._n inseparable_o l._n 34._o r._n particular_n p._n 5_o l._n 17._o r._n qualify_v l._n 33_o r._n privilege_n p._n 6_o l._n 2._o r_o privilege_n l_o 3_o r._n the_o seal_n l._n 12._o r._n 1_o corin._n 5._o 7._o 13l_o 13._o r._n be_v formal_o 20_o deal_n and._n l._n 21._o r._n one_o sovereign_a l._n 31._o r_o polit●_n p._n 7_o l._n 13._o r._n integrale_fw-la p_o 7_o l34r_n a_o catholic_n p_o 8_o l_o 5_o r_o visible_a l_o 6_o r_o term_n 18_o r_o brethren_n in_o the_o book_n itself_o p._n 3._o l._n 7._o r._n terminate_v p_o 4_o l_o 8_o r._n magistrate_n 〈◊〉_d 8_o r_o show_v p_o 5_o l_o 5_o r_o office_n being_n l_o 19_o deal_n if_o p_o 6l_o 2r_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d receptacle_n l_o 5_o r_o naturae_fw-la l6r_fw-la consequent_a l21r_fw-fr que_fw-fr p_o 9_o l31r_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 10l_n 28r_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d *_o p_o 11_o l35_n r_o over_o p_o 13l_o 15r_n be_v possible_a l27_n r_o polity_n l32_n r_o in_o it_o p_o 15l_o 28_o r_o relation_n p_o 16_o l_o 2._o r_o officer_n 〈◊〉_d 17_o l_o 9_o r_o confine_v it_o p_o 19_o l_o 35_o r_o challenge_v p_o 20_o l_o 6_o r_o term_v of_o *_o l_o ●4_n r_o formal_a cause_n p_o 21_o l_o 2_o r_o allege_v l_o 27_o r_o they_o be_v p_o 23_o l_o 10_o after_o choose_v add_v p_o 24_o l_o 34_o r_o act_v p_o 25_o l_o 26_o r_o two_o act_n p_o 26_o l_o 34_o r_o for_o any_o p_o 27_o l_o 25._o r_o improbability_n p_o 28_o l_o 6._o r_o plerunque_fw-la l_o 11_o r_o superstiosi_fw-la l_o 12_o
brethren_n as_o we_o show_v preacher_n send_v p._n 326._o as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v pag._n 142_o to_o tit._n 1._o 5._o we_o answer_v we_o do_v not_o call_v ordination_n a_o unnecessary_a adjunct_n the_o apostle_n pain_n may_v have_v be_v very_o useful_a in_o other_o place_n when_o yet_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v they_o abide_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o so_o titus_n at_o crete_n the_o set_n in_o order_n thing_n that_o be_v want_v be_v express_o and_o first_o mention_v as_o the_o cause_n of_o titus_n his_o stay_n at_o crete_n and_o as_o that_o concern_v but_o the_o well-being_n of_o the_o church_n no_o more_o do_v ordain_v of_o elder_n in_o every_o city_n for_o church_n have_v a_o be_v before_o officer_n act_n 14._o 23._o and_o if_o titus_n himself_o have_v act_v in_o neither_o of_o these_o work_n but_o only_o have_v take_v the_o oversight_n of_o those_o church_n and_o direct_v they_o therein_o yet_o it_o will_v have_v be_v necessary_a enough_o especial_o in_o that_o infant_n state_n 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that_fw-mi quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o christ_n free-people_n may_v have_v office-power_n eminent_o in_o they_o as_o well_o as_o those_o instance_a in_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o here_o we_o be_v in_o the_o defensive_a part_n but_o whereas_o he_o call_v p._n 144._o for_o divine_a institution_n we_o reply_v 1._o many_o like_a instance_n lie_n give_v and_o we_o have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o call_v for_o a_o divine_a institution_n there_o as_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 7._o of_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o sheep_n commit_v to_o twenty_o shepherd_n &c_n &c_n and_o p._n 8._o of_o a_o general_a relation_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n &_o a_o special_a respect_n to_o their_o own_o territory_n we_o crave_v a_o divine_a institution_n for_o any_o such_o order_n in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o for_o his_o instance_n pag._n 131._o 132_o about_o a_o presentation_n and_o the_o archbishop_n and_o a_o d●_n of_o physic_n and_o 137._o 138._o of_o a_o corporation_n a_o court_n of_o alderman_n etc._n etc._n let_v he_o show_v a_o divine_a institution_n that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o the_o church_n and_o why_o do_v he_o require_v of_o we_o and_o not_o give_v it_o himself_o the_o use_n of_o such_o example_n be_v to_o clear_v some_o general_a rule_n to_o illustrate_v and_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v case_n parallel_v and_o we_o go_v thus_o far_o 2._o we_o give_v a_o institution_n in_o our_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o election_n give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n as_o to_o minister_n be_v before_o the_o church_n we_o sufficient_o disprove_v it_o in_o our_o former_a book_n pag._n 303_o 304._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o church_n be_v before_o elder_n act._n 14._o 23._o it_o concern_v he_o to_o prove_v that_o any_o ordinary_a elder_n be_v before_o a_o church_n and_o that_o they_o act_n as_o officer_n to_o such_o as_o be_v no_o church_n else_o he_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n that_o church_n to_o be_v be_v gather_v and_o baptize_v by_o they_o 〈◊〉_d answer_v in_o the_o place_n even_o now_o quote_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v i_o do_v consist_v in_o ordination_n they_o use_v five_o argument_n he_o plead_v for_o two_o of_o they_o the_o former_a be_v take_v from_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o stir_n up_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o thou_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o neglect_n not_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o etc._n etc._n object_n he_o say_v 1._o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o office_n as_o well_o as_o gift_n 3._o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o stir_v up_o his_o office_n and_o office_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o a_o man_n 4._o that_o a_o extraordinary_a office_n may_v be_v convey_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n who_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o 5._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o other_o place_n 6._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o gift_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o and_o of_o the_o office_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o mr._n pool_n from_o pag._n 146._o to_o 151._o answ_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n be_v not_o prove_v extraordinary_a officer_n be_v presbyter_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d common_o signify_v a_o absolute_a gift_n &_o its_o questionable_a whether_o it_o be_v use_v any_o where_o for_o office_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o stir_v up_o as_o fire_n and_o it_o be_v very_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o office_n be_v so_o stir_v up_o especial_o see_v the_o gift_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o he_o which_o be_v not_o true_a of_o office_n though_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o that_o which_o be_v in_o he_o as_o be_v swallow_v up_o or_o overcome_v thereby_o as_o a_o man_n in_o sin_n in_o bear_n or_o drink_v in_o joy_n etc._n etc._n yet_o it_o can_v with_o any_o propriety_n of_o speech_n be_v say_v that_o be_v in_o a_o man_n which_o be_v but_o upon_o he_o office_n be_v only_o adherent_a to_o a_o man_n not_o inherent_a or_o in_o he_o it_o be_v very_o improper_a to_o say_v to_o a_o major_n bailiff_n justice_n constable_n etc._n etc._n stir_v up_o the_o office_n that_o be_v in_o you_o 4._o if_o a_o extraordinary_a office_n may_v be_v convey_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n which_o be_v not_o prove_v yet_o their_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v do_v here_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 149_o of_o its_o be_v ordinary_a in_o state_n and_o church_n for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o etc._n etc._n do_v plain_o contradict_v what_o himself_o say_v p._n 138._o 160._o that_o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a and_o by_o this_o rule_n though_o the_o people_n be_v inferior_a to_o their_o officer_n yet_o they_o may_v convey_v their_o office_n to_o they_o his_o instance_n of_o a_o king_n who_o office_n be_v convey_v by_o some_o of_o his_o subject_n if_o true_a prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v place_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n yet_o may_v have_v authority_n enough_o to_o give_v the_o essence_n to_o their_o officer_n and_o so_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 139._o 5._o it_o be_v seldom_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o there_o be_v no_o evidence_n that_o it_o must_v be_v so_o take_v here_o 6._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o gift_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o and_o for_o office_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o be_v altogether_o without_o proof_n or_o probility_n of_o truth_n for_o as_o the_o phrase_n be_v improper_a neglect_v
collings_n see_v a_o mote_n and_o can_v he_o not_o behold_v a_o beam_n do_v he_o strain_v a_o to_o a_o gnat_n and_o swallow_v a_o camel_n be_v there_o not_o great_a absurdity_n in_o his_o way_n 1_o be_v it_o not_o a_o absurdity_n to_o engage_v a_o man_n by_o office_n to_o preach_v when_o none_o be_v engage_v to_o hear_v suppose_v ordination_n make_v a_o officer_n sinetitulo_fw-la which_o may_v be_v in_o dr._n collings_n judgement_n a_o pastor_n teacher_n or_o overseer_n to_o who_o charge_n no_o man_n or_o company_n of_o man_n be_v commit_v to_o who_o none_o be_v bind_v where_o ever_o this_o pretend_a officer_n preach_v upon_o the_o lord_n day_n the_o people_n may_v leave_v he_o and_o go_v to_o other_o minister_n especial_o if_o ordain_v also_o who_o they_o prefer_v before_o he_o who_o yet_o be_v bind_v to_o preach_v and_o none_o to_o hear_v 2_o be_v it_o not_o a_o absurdity_n solemn_o to_o set_v a_o man_n apart_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n wherein_o nevertheless_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v engage_v to_o work_v but_o turn_v aside_o to_o a_o school_n physic_n etc._n etc._n may_v say_v to_o they_o that_o ask_v why_o he_o stand_v idle_a as_o to_o preach_a work_n no_o man_n have_v hire_v i_o 3_o to_o make_v a_o officer_n to_o every_o rational_a creature_n when_o no_o creature_n can_v rational_o say_v this_o be_v my_o minister_n nor_o he_o say_v this_o be_v my_o people_n as_o if_o a_o justice_n shall_v marry_v a_o man_n to_o woman_n kind_n and_o leave_v he_o to_o act_v as_o a_o husband_n where_o he_o can_v find_v a_o woman_n that_o will_v entertain_v he_o 4_o to_o determine_v a_o relate_v and_o relation_n actual_a and_o the_o correlate_n potential_a only_o he_o except_v against_o our_o description_n of_o office_n pretend_v that_o two_o rule_n be_v offend_v by_o it_o ob._n 1._o the_o former_a rule_n he_o suppose_v to_o be_v break_v by_o our_o bring_v a_o particular_a church_n into_o it_o and_o our_o leave_v ordination_n out_o vind._n revind_n pag._n 38._o answ_n in_o our_o former_a book_n and_o also_o in_o this_o we_o have_v prove_v that_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v the_o correlate_n to_o office_n and_o that_o ordination_n be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n but_o only_o a_o adjunct_n of_o office_n and_o what_o logic_n teach_v to_o leave_v the_o correlate_n out_o or_o to_o put_v a_o adjunct_n into_o the_o description_n of_o a_o relation_n ob._n 2_o his_o second_o rule_n suppose_v to_o be_v offend_v be_v mention_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 38._o answ_n in_o his_o explain_v himself_o he_o do_v not_o only_o oppose_v we_o but_o a_o multitude_n of_o ancient_a and_o modern_a popish_a and_o protestant_n divine_n yea_o scripture_n and_o reason_n that_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v set_v apart_o for_o the_o work_n though_o at_o present_a he_o have_v no_o place_n be_v put_v into_o office_n when_o there_o be_v not_o a_o man_n in_o the_o world_n who_o he_o can_v challenge_v by_o virtue_n of_o office_n to_o submit_v to_o he_o it_o be_v not_o only_o 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