Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	aaron_n	moses_n	think_v	83	3	4.3533	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A69535	The grand debate between the most reverend bishops and the Presbyterian divines appointed by His Sacred Majesty as commissioners for the review and alteration of the Book of common prayer, &c. : being an exact account of their whole proceedings : the most perfect copy.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.; Commission for the Review and Alteration of the Book of Common Prayer.	1661 (1661)	Wing B1278A; Wing E3841; ESTC R7198	132,164	165

dissent_n show_v rom._n 14._o than_o you_o ever_o yet_o produce_v for_o force_v other_o from_o ministry_n and_o church_n into_o sin_n and_o hell_n if_o they_o will_v not_o obey_v you_o against_o their_o conscience_n and_o all_o for_o that_o which_o you_o never_o pretend_v to_o show_v a_o command_n of_o god_n for_o and_o other_o show_v you_o as_o they_o think_v scripture_n and_o council_n and_o custom_n against_o to_o tell_v we_o then_o that_o paul_n speak_v of_o thing_n not_o decent_a and_o sign_n ficant_a be_v pardon_v our_o plainess_n to_o say_v much_o less_o than_o nothing_o for_o it_o be_v not_o against_o impose_v that_o paul_n speak_v but_o use_v and_o not_o use_v censure_v and_o despise_v and_o their_o argument_n be_v suitable_a to_o their_o cause_n of_o another_o kind_n of_o moment_n than_o decency_n or_o indecency_n significancy_n or_o insignificancy_n even_o from_o suppose_a idolatry_n reject_v god_n law_n and_o comply_v with_o the_o jew_n and_o heretic_n in_o restore_v the_o law_n and_o cast_v away_o the_o liberty_n purchase_v by_o christ_n even_o in_o their_o private_a eat_n &_o drink_v to_o be_v no_o more_o tedious_a now_o we_o humble_o offer_v in_o any_o way_n convenient_a to_o try_v out_o with_o that_o reverend_a brother_n tha●_n so_o confident_o assert_v the_o disparity_n of_o the_o case_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o these_o scripture_n most_o plain_o condemn_v your_o imposition_n now_o in_o question_n though_o we_o shall_v have_v think_v that_o one_o impartial_a read_v of_o they_o may_v end_v the_o controversy_n and_o save_v the_o church_n and_o you_o from_o the_o sad_a effect_n as_o to_o that_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 16._o we_o answer_v first_o it_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o the_o word_n custom_n refer_v to_o the_o matter_n of_o hair_n or_o to_o contention_n so_o many_o expositor_n judge_v q._n d._n the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v not_o contentious_a 2d_o here_o be_v no_o institution_n muchless_a by_o fallible_a man_n of_o new_a covenant_n dedicate_a or_o teach_v symbol_n or_o ceremony_n nor_o be_v here_o any_o unnecessary_a thing_n enjoin_v but_o that_o which_o nature_n and_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o country_n have_v make_v so_o decent_a as_o that_o the_o opposite_a will_v have_v be_v abusive_o undecent_a this_o be_v not_o your_o case_n a_o cross_n or_o surplice_n be_v not_o decent_a by_o nature_n or_o common_a reputation_n but_o by_o institution_n that_o be_v not_o all_o for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o institute_v because_o decent_a it_o will_v not_o be_v decent_a because_o institute_v nor_o be_v these_o sodecent_a as_o the_o opposite_a to_o be_v indecent_a the_o apostle_n worship_v god_n as_o decent_o without_o they_o as_o you_o do_v with_o they_o the_o minister_n pray_v in_o the_o pulpit_n as_o decent_o without_o the_o surplice_n as_o in_o the_o read_n place_n with_o it_o 3d._n paul_n do_v but_o exhort_v they_o to_o this_o undoubted_a comeliness_n as_o you_o may_v well_o do_v if_o man_n will_v do_v any_o thing_n which_o nature_n or_o common_a reputation_n make_v to_o be_v slovenly_a unmannerly_a or_o indecent_a as_o be_v cover_v in_o prayer_n or_o sing_a psalm_n or_o any_o such_o like_a about_o which_o we_o will_v never_o differ_v with_o you_o but_o even_o here_o he_o talk_v not_o of_o force_n or_o such_o penalty_n as_o tend_v to_o the_o great_a hurt_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o person_n sect._n 12._o a._n 4._o that_o these_o ceremony_n have_v occasion_v many_o division_n be_v no_o more_o fault_n of_o they_o than_o it_o be_v of_o the_o gospel_n that_o the_o preach_n of_o it_o occasion_v strife_n betwixt_o father_n and_o son_n etc._n etc._n the_o true_a cause_n of_o those_o division_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o we_o which_o s._n jam._n tell_v we_o be_v last_o and_o inordinate_a desire_n of_o honour_n or_o wealth_n or_o licentiousness_n or_o the_o like_a be_v these_o ceremony_n lay_v aside_o there_o will_v be_v the_o same_o division_n if_o some_o who_o think_v moses_n and_o aaron_n take_v too_o much_o upon_o they_o may_v be_v suffer_v to_o deceive_v the_o people_n and_o to_o raise_v in_o they_o vain_a fear_n and_o jealousy_n of_o their_o governor_n but_o if_o all_o man_n will_v as_o they_o ought_v study_v peace_n and_o quietness_n they_o will_v find_v other_o and_o better_a fruit_n of_o these_o law_n of_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n as_o edification_n decency_n order_n and_o beauty_n in_o the_o service_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n reply_n whether_o the_o ceremony_n be_v as_o innocent_a as_o to_o division_n as_o the_o gospel_n a_o strange_a assertion_n will_v better_a appear_v when_o what_o we_o have_v say_v and_o what_o be_v more_o full_o say_v by_o dr._n ames_n bradshaw_n and_o other_o be_v well_o answer_v if_o the_o true_a cause_n of_o our_o division_n be_v as_o you_o say_v lust_n and_o inordinate_a desire_n of_o honour_n or_o wealth_n or_o licentiousness_n than_o the_o party_n that_o be_v most_o lustful_a ambitious_a covetous_a and_o licentious_a be_v like_a to_o be_v most_o the_o cause_n and_o for_o lust_n and_o licentiousness_n we_o shall_v take_v it_o for_o a_o great_a attainment_n of_o our_o end_n if_o you_o will_v be_v entreat_v to_o turn_v the_o edge_n of_o your_o severity_n against_o the_o lustful_a and_o licentious_a o_o that_o you_o will_v keep_v they_o out_o of_o the_o pulpit_n and_o out_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n till_o they_o reform_v and_o for_o ourselves_o we_o shall_v take_v your_o admonition_n or_o severity_n thankful_o when_o ever_o we_o be_v convict_v by_o you_o of_o any_o such_o sin_n we_o be_v loath_a to_o enter_v upon_o such_o comparison_n between_o the_o minister_n eject_v for_o the_o most_o part_n and_o those_o that_o be_v in_o their_o room_n as_o tend_v to_o show_v by_o this_o rule_n who_o be_v like_a to_o be_v the_o divider_n and_o for_o inordinate_a desire_n of_o honour_n and_o wealth_n between_o your_o lordship_n and_o we_o we_o be_v content_v that_o this_o cause_n be_v decide_v by_o all_o england_n even_o by_o our_o enemy_n at_o the_o first_o hear_n without_o any_o further_a vindication_n of_o ourselves_o and_o so_o let_v it_o be_v judge_v who_o be_v the_o divider_n only_o we_o must_v say_v that_o your_o intimation_n of_o this_o charge_n on_o we_o that_o seek_v not_o for_o bishopric_n deanery_n archdeaconry_n or_o any_o of_o your_o preferment_n that_o desire_v not_o nor_o can_v accept_v plurality_n of_o benefice_n with_o cure_n of_o soul_n that_o never_o seek_v for_o more_o than_o food_n and_o raiment_n with_o the_o liberty_n of_o our_o ministry_n even_o one_o place_n with_o a_o tolerable_a maintenance_n who_o provoke_a cause_n have_v be_v our_o constant_a opposition_n to_o the_o honour_n wealth_n lordship_n and_o plurality_n of_o the_o clergy_n yea_o who_o will_v be_v glad_a on_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o poor_a congregation_n if_o many_o of_o our_o brethren_n may_v have_v leave_n to_o preach_v to_o their_o flock_n for_o nothing_o we_o say_v your_o intimation_n make_v we_o lift_v up_o our_o heart_n and_o hand_n to_o heaven_n and_o think_v oh_o what_o be_v man_n what_o may_v not_o by_o some_o history_n be_v tell_v the_o world_n oh_o how_o desirable_a be_v the_o bless_a day_n of_o the_o righteous_a universal_a judgement_n of_o the_o lord_n how_o small_a a_o matter_n till_o then_o shall_v it_o be_v to_o we_o to_o be_v judge_v of_o man_n we_o hope_v upon_o pretence_n of_o not_o suffer_v we_o to_o deceive_v the_o people_n you_o will_v not_o deny_v we_o liberty_n to_o preach_v the_o necessary_a save_a truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n consider_v how_o terrible_a a_o symptom_n and_o prognostic_n this_o be_v in_o the_o jew_n 1_o thes_n 2_o 15_o 16._o who_o both_o kill_v the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o their_o own_o prophet_n and_o persecute_v the_o apostle_n and_o god_n they_o please_v not_o and_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o man_n forbid_v to_o preach_v to_o the_o gentile_n that_o they_o may_v be_v save_v to_o fill_v up_o their_o sin_n always_o for_o wrath_n be_v come_v upon_o they_o to_o the_o utmost_a we_o can_v as_o easy_o bear_v what_o ever_o you_o can_v inflict_v upon_o we_o as_o the_o hinderer_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o silencer_n of_o faithful_a minister_n and_o troubler_n of_o the_o church_n can_v bear_v what_o god_n will_v inflict_v on_o they_o and_o so_o the_o will_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v do_v sect._n 13._o cer._n 3._o there_o have_v be_v so_o much_o say_v not_o only_o of_o the_o lawfulness_n but_o also_o of_o the_o conveniency_n of_o those_o ceremony_n mention_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v add_v this_o in_o brief_a may_v here_o suffice_v for_o the_o surplice_n that_o reason_n and_o experience_n teach_v that_o decent_a ornament_n and_o habit_n preserve_v reverence_n and_o awe_n hold_v therefore_o necessary_a to_o the_o solemnity_n of_o royal_a act_n and_o act_n of_o justice_n and_o

let_v they_o be_v recite_v if_o not_o it_o be_v hard_a that_o this_o shall_v even_o by_o you_o be_v thus_o affirm_v as_o be_v say_v by_o we_o which_o we_o have_v not_o say_v we_o have_v say_v that_o the_o ceremony_n have_v be_v the_o fountain_n of_o much_o evil_n occasion_v division_n but_o not_o what_o you_o charge_v we_o to_o have_v say_v in_o word_n or_o sense_n 3._o and_o may_v not_o you_o alter_v they_o without_o approve_v or_o seem_v to_o approve_v the_o reason_n upon_o which_o the_o alteration_n be_v desire_v when_o you_o have_v so_o great_a store_n of_o other_o reason_n the_o king_n in_o his_o declaration_n be_v far_o enough_o from_o seem_v to_o own_o the_o charge_n against_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o be_v please_v gracious_o to_o alter_v so_o far_o as_o be_v there_o express_v if_o a_o patient_n have_v a_o conceit_n that_o some_o one_o thing_n will_v kill_v he_o if_o he_o take_v it_o the_o physician_n may_v well_o forbear_v he_o in_o that_o one_o thing_n when_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o his_o health_n without_o own_v his_o reason_n against_o it_o if_o his_o majesty_n have_v subject_n so_o weak_a as_o to_o contend_v about_o thing_n indifferent_a and_o if_o both_o side_n err_v one_o think_v they_o necessary_a and_o the_o other_o sinful_a may_v he_o not_o gratify_v either_o of_o they_o without_o seem_v to_o reprove_v their_o error_n by_o this_o reason_n of_o you_o he_o be_v by_o other_o man_n in_o such_o a_o case_n necessitate_v to_o sin_n for_o if_o he_o settle_v those_o thing_n which_o some_o count_v necessary_a he_o seem_v to_o approve_v of_o their_o opinion_n that_o they_o be_v necessary_a if_o he_o take_v they_o down_o when_o other_o call_v they_o sinful_a he_o seem_v to_o own_o their_o charge_n of_o the_o sinfulness_n but_o indeed_o he_o need_v not_o to_o do_v either_o he_o may_v take_v they_o down_o or_o leave_v they_o indifferent_a profess_o for_o unity_n and_o peace_n and_o profess_o disow_v the_o error_n on_o both_o side_n we_o be_v sorry_a if_o any_o do_v esteem_v these_o form_n and_o ceremony_n any_o better_a than_o mutable_a indifferent_a mode_n and_o circumstance_n of_o worship_n and_o do_v hazard_v estate_n or_o life_n for_o they_o as_o any_o otherwise_o esteem_v and_o we_o be_v sorry_a that_o by_o our_o division_n the_o adversary_n of_o peace_n have_v get_v so_o great_a a_o advantage_n against_o we_o as_o that_o the_o argument_n against_o necessary_a charitable_a forbearance_n be_v fetch_v from_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o reputation_n of_o the_o contend_a party_n that_o thing_n may_v not_o be_v abate_v to_o other_o which_o you_o confess_v be_v indifferent_a and_o alterable_a and_o which_o many_o of_o they_o dare_v not_o use_v though_o to_o save_v their_o life_n and_o this_o because_o it_o will_v make_v they_o think_v the_o pious_a tender_a concienced_a man_n and_o make_v other_o think_v worse_o of_o but_o with_o who_o will_v it_o have_v these_o effect_n those_o that_o you_o call_v the_o generality_n of_o the_o sober_a loyal_a child_n of_o the_o church_n will_v think_v never_o the_o worse_o of_o themselves_o because_o other_o have_v liberty_n to_o live_v by_o they_o without_o these_o thing_n and_o the_o rest_n who_o liberty_n you_o deny_v will_v think_v rather_o the_o worse_a of_o you_o than_o the_o better_a for_o deny_v they_o their_o liberty_n in_o the_o worship_v of_o god_n you_o undoubted_o argue_v here_o against_o the_o interest_n of_o reputation_n which_o you_o stand_v for_o your_o preface_n to_o your_o indulgency_n and_o your_o open_a profession_n and_o if_o you_o will_v needs_o have_v it_o so_o your_o own_o practice_n will_v tell_v the_o world_n loud_a enough_o that_o the_o thing_n which_o you_o adhere_v to_o with_o so_o great_a hazard_n be_v still_o lawful_a in_o your_o judgement_n and_o it_o will_v be_v your_o honour_n and_o add_v to_o your_o reputation_n to_o abate_v they_o to_o other_o when_o it_o be_v in_o your_o power_n to_o be_v more_o severe_a and_o if_o you_o refuse_v it_o their_o suffering_n will_v tell_v the_o world_n loud_a enough_o that_o for_o their_o part_n they_o still_o take_v they_o to_o be_v thing_n unlawful_a as_o for_o the_o reason_n by_o they_o produce_v to_o prove_v they_o sinful_a they_o have_v be_v public_o make_v know_v in_o the_o write_n of_o many_o of_o they_o in_o ames_n his_o fresh_a suit_n against_o the_o ceremony_n and_o in_o the_o abridgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o bradshaw_n nicols_n and_o other_o man_n write_n to_o the_o first_o general_a proposal_n we_o answer_v that_o as_o to_o that_o part_n of_o it_o 5._o which_o require_v that_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o liturgy_n may_v not_o be_v private_a opinion_n or_o fancy_n that_o be_v the_o way_n to_o perpetuate_v schism_n the_o church_n have_v be_v careful_a to_o put_v nothing_o into_o the_o liturgy_n but_o that_o which_o be_v either_o evident_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o what_o have_v be_v general_o receive_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n neither_o of_o which_o can_v be_v call_v private_a opinion_n and_o if_o the_o contrary_n can_v be_v prove_v we_o wish_v it_o out_o of_o the_o liturgy_n reply_n we_o call_v those_o opinion_n which_o be_v not_o determine_v certainty_n and_o though_o the_o great_a number_n shall_v hold_v they_o as_o opinion_n they_o be_v not_o therefore_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v call_v private_a opinion_n but_o indeed_o we_o use_v not_o the_o word_n that_o we_o can_v find_v the_o thing_n we_o desire_v be_v that_o the_o material_n of_o the_o liturgy_n may_v consist_v of_o nothing_o doubtful_a or_o question_v among_o pious_a learned_a and_o orthodox_n person_n we_o say_v also_o that_o the_o limit_v church_n communion_n to_o thing_n of_o doubtful_a disputation_n have_v be_v in_o all_o age_n the_o ground_n of_o schism_n and_o separation_n which_o be_v not_o to_o say_v that_o the_o liturgy_n itself_o be_v a_o superstitious_a usage_n or_o a_o direct_v cause_n of_o schism_n and_o we_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o a_o learned_a man_n mr._n hales_n not_o as_o make_v every_o word_n our_o own_o but_o as_o a_o testimony_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la because_o he_o be_v so_o high_o value_v by_o yourselves_o as_o we_o suppose_v and_o therefore_o we_o think_v his_o word_n may_v be_v more_o regard_v by_o you_o than_o our_o own_o 2._o where_o you_o say_v that_o the_o church_n have_v be_v careful_a to_o put_v nothing_o in_o the_o liturgy_n but_o that_o which_o be_v either_o evident_o the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o that_o which_o have_v be_v general_o receive_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n we_o reply_v 1._o we_o suppose_v there_o be_v little_a or_o nothing_o now_o controvert_v between_o we_o which_o you_o will_v say_v be_v evident_o the_o word_n of_o god_n either_o the_o form_n or_o ceremony_n or_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n 2._o if_o by_o in_o the_o church_n you_o mean_v not_o by_o the_o church_n but_o by_o any_o part_n in_o the_o church_n how_o shall_v we_o know_v that_o they_o do_v well_o and_o if_o by_o the_o generality_n you_o mean_v not_o all_o but_o the_o great_a part_n you_o undertake_v the_o proof_n of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o easy_a to_o be_v prove_v it_o be_v so_o hard_o to_o judge_v of_o the_o majority_n of_o person_n in_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o any_o notable_a difference_n we_o do_v take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o you_o limit_v not_o the_o catholic_n church_n as_o the_o papist_n do_v to_o the_o confine_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n but_o indeed_o we_o can_v only_o wish_v that_o your_o assertion_n be_v true_a while_o we_o must_v show_v it_o to_o be_v untrue_a if_o you_o speak_v of_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o of_o a_o universality_n of_o time_n as_o well_o as_o place_n if_o not_o its_o more_o against_o you_o that_o the_o primitive_a catholic_n church_n be_v against_o you_o the_o very_a thing_n in_o question_n that_o contain_v the_o rest_n that_o it_o be_v needful_a to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n that_o all_o the_o church_n under_o one_o prince_n shall_v use_v one_o form_n of_o liturgy_n be_v not_o receive_v by_o the_o catholic_n church_n nor_o by_o the_o generality_n in_o it_o when_o it_o be_v so_o well_o know_v that_o they_o use_v diversity_n of_o liturgy_n and_o custom_n in_o the_o roman_a empire_n the_o generality_n in_o the_o catholic_n church_n receive_v not_o the_o lord_n supper_n kneel_v at_o least_o on_o any_o lord_n day_n when_o it_o be_v forbid_v by_o divers_a general_a council_n and_o when_o this_o prohibition_n be_v general_o receive_v as_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n we_o have_v not_o hear_v it_o prove_v that_o the_o surplice_n or_o cross_n as_o use_v with_o we_o wree_v receive_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n it_o be_v a_o private_a opinion_n not_o receive_v by_o the_o catholic_n church_n that_o it_n be_v