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to_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n i_o mean_v the_o christian_a magistrate_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o master_n of_o the_o household_n over_o his_o family_n derogate_v nothing_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o prince_n but_o do_v confirm_v and_o establish_v it_o rather_o but_o the_o authority_n of_o your_o senior_n in_o every_o congregation_n spoil_v the_o prince_n of_o his_o jurisdiction_n and_o make_v he_o subject_a where_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v ruler_n and_o therefore_o your_o reason_n be_v not_o like_a chap._n 2._o the._n 13._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 143._o sect._n 3_o to_o be_v short_a say_v he_o when_o he_o can_v say_v no_o more_o it_o can_v be_v govern_v when_o it_o be_v full_a of_o hypocrite_n papist_n atheist_n and_o other_o wicked_a person_n as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o there_o be_v few_o or_o none_o such_o i_o have_v show_v before_o how_o great_a want_n of_o knowledge_n it_o bewray_v to_o say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n be_v of_o the_o 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hereof_o we_o have_v â–ª_o only_a 〈◊〉_d master_n may_v excommunicate_v â–ª_o 1._o cor._n 5._o 1._o tim._n 1._o &_o ad_fw-la titum_fw-la 3._o t._n c._n pag._n 146._o sect._n 2._o now_o i_o return_v back_o again_o to_o excommunication_n which_o m._n doctor_n think_v to_o be_v y_z e_z only_a discipline_n in_o the_o church_n but_o he_o shall_v understande_v that_o beside_o y_fw-fr â—_o part_n of_o private_a discipline_n which_o be_v ordinary_o &_o daily_o to_o be_v exercise_v by_o every_o one_o of_o y_z e_z pastor_n &_o elder_n as_o admonition_n &_o reprehension_n there_o be_v three_o principal_a part_n which_o be_v exercise_v of_o they_o joint_o &_o together_o whereof_o the_o first_o be_v the_o election_n or_o choice_n &_o the_o abdication_n or_o put_v out_o of_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n the_o second_o be_v in_o excommunication_n of_o the_o stubborn_a or_o absolution_n of_o the_o repentant_a the_o third_o be_v the_o decision_n of_o all_o such_o matter_n as_o do_v rise_v in_o the_o 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i_o will_v have_v he_o understand_v that_o we_o hold_v that_o the_o body_n must_v be_v honest_o and_o comely_o bury_v and_o that_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o for_o that_o cause_n some_o reasonable_a number_n of_o those_o which_o be_v the_o friend_n and_o neighbour_n about_o shall_v accompany_v the_o corpse_n to_o the_o place_n of_o burial_n we_o hold_v it_o also_o lawful_a to_o lament_v the_o dead_a and_o if_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o person_n so_o require_v we_o think_v it_o not_o unlawful_a to_o use_v some_o way_n about_o the_o burial_n whereby_o that_o may_v appear_v but_o yet_o so_o that_o there_o be_v a_o measure_n keep_v both_o in_o the_o weep_n &_o in_o the_o charge_n consider_v that_o where_o as_o immoderate_a either_o weep_n or_o pomp_n be_v never_o no_o not_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o law_n allow_v now_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o gospel_n all_o that_o be_v not_o lawful_a which_o be_v permit_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o law_n for_o unto_o the_o people_n of_o god_n 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you_o and_o i_o look_v for_o a_o better_a answer_n chap._n 3._o the._n 6._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o lin._n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d m._n doctor_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o commissioner_n be_v ecclesiastical_a because_o it_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n i_o marvel_v that_o he_o be_v so_o ignorant_a that_o he_o can_v not_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o give_v iudiciail_n sentence_n and_o appoint_v bodily_a punishment_n which_o be_v mere_a civil_a and_o between_o the_o understanding_n the_o truth_n of_o every_o such_o cause_n according_a as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n define_v of_o it_o which_o be_v a_o thing_n common_a as_o well_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n as_o unto_o the_o minister_n &_o wherein_o the_o minister_n because_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v most_o ready_a ought_v if_o need_v be_v consult_v with_o io._n whitgifte_n sure_o i_o think_v you_o scarce_o understande_v yourself_o for_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v ecclesiastical_a why_o may_v not_o the_o punishment_n by_o the_o magistrate_n appoint_v unto_o they_o be_v execute_v by_o ecclesiastical_a person_n have_v authority_n from_o the_o prince_n by_o commission_n so_o to_o do_v and_o if_o the_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v give_v sentence_n and_o judgement_n in_o these_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n why_o may_v he_o not_o consent_v also_o to_o the_o punishment_n appoint_v for_o the_o same_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v he_o shall_v be_v the_o jailor_n or_o tormentor_n himself_o but_o to_o judge_v the_o person_n offend_v worthy_a of_o this_o or_o that_o kind_n of_o punishment_n and_o to_o give_v sentence_n of_o the_o crime_n that_o he_o have_v commit_v &_o to_o determine_v of_o the_o cause_n that_o be_v call_v into_o judgement_n chap._n 3._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o a_o other_o of_o m._n doctor_n reason_n be_v that_o as_o king_n do_v serve_v christ_n by_o make_v law_n for_o he_o so_o bishop_n do_v serve_v christ_n by_o execute_v law_n for_o he_o as_o though_o it_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n to_o execute_v law_n as_o well_o as_o to_o make_v they_o and_o as_o if_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o therefore_o call_v a_o speak_a law_n because_o by_o execute_v they_o he_o do_v cause_n the_o law_n after_o a_o fashion_n to_o speak_v this_o be_v to_o divide_v the_o stake_n of_o the_o magistrate_n between_o he_o and_o the_o bishop_n yea_o to_o gyve_v the_o bishop_n the_o best_a part_n of_o it_o for_o we_o know_v that_o with_o we_o the_o people_n be_v at_o make_v of_o the_o law_n which_o may_v not_o meddle_v with_o the_o execution_n of_o they_o and_o if_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o he_o mean_v not_o hereby_o to_o shut_v the_o prince_n from_o execute_v the_o law_n then_o as_o his_o similitude_n when_o it_o be_v at_o the_o best_a prove_v nothing_o so_o by_o this_o mean_v it_o halt_v down_o right_a and_o be_v no_o similitude_n io._n whitgifte_n the_o prince_n execute_v his_o law_n by_o himself_o &_o he_o also_o execute_v they_o by_o other_o to_o who_o he_o 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t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 2._o as_o for_o elias_n kill_v the_o false_a prophet_n and_o our_o saviour_n christ_n whip_a out_n of_o the_o temple_n it_o be_v strange_a that_o m._n doctor_n will_v allege_v they_o as_o thing_n to_o be_v follow_v when_o he_o may_v as_o well_o teach_v that_o we_o may_v call_v for_o fire_n from_o heaven_n as_o elias_n do_v and_o be_v demand_v answer_v nothing_o as_o our_o saviour_n do_v as_o to_o follow_v these_o action_n which_o be_v most_o singular_a and_o extraordinary_a and_o if_o these_o one_o or_o two_o example_n be_v enough_o to_o break_v the_o order_n that_o god_n have_v set_v by_o this_o a_o man_n may_v prove_v that_o the_o mynister_n may_v be_v fisher_n and_o tent_n maker_n because_o peter_n and_o paul_n be_v minister_n do_v fish_n and_o make_v tent_n and_o true_o these_o be_v not_o so_o extraordinary_a and_o from_o the_o general_a rule_n as_o the_o other_o be_v and_o it_o be_v permit_v in_o a_o council_n that_o rather_o than_o a_o minister_n 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person_n may_v by_o no_o mean_n exercise_v any_o civil_a office_n i_o yield_v unto_o you_o if_o you_o can_v not_o do_v it_o then_o do_v i_o allege_v no_o example_n tend_v to_o the_o break_v of_o any_o order_n that_o god_n have_v set_v i_o know_v not_o why_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v not_o do_v as_o peter_n &_o paul_n do_v upon_o the_o like_a occasion_n and_o therefore_o your_o allege_v of_o you_o e_o corrupt_a council_n of_o nice_a which_o not_o withstand_v you_o have_v not_o 〈◊〉_d allege_v be_v not_o necess_n ie_fw-fr i_o have_v speak_v of_o that_o canon_n before_o and_o therefore_o will_v not_o trouble_v the_o reader_n with_o it_o now_o be_v from_o this_o purpose_n chap._n 3._o the._n 11._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 2._o 3._o when_o saint_n paul_n will_v tim._n that_o he_o shall_v not_o receyve_v a_o accusation_n against_o a_o elder_n under_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n he_o do_v commit_v nothing_o less_o than_o any_o civil_a office_n unto_o he_o 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