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sect_n 4._o now_o i_o have_v show_v how_o little_a those_o thing_n which_o m._n doctor_n bring_v make_v for_o proof_n of_o that_o wherefore_o he_o allege_v they_o i_o will_v for_o the_o better_a understanding_n of_o the_o reader_n se_fw-mi e_o down_o what_o be_v the_o cause_n why_o the_o archbishop_n be_v first_o ordain_v ▪_o and_o what_o be_v their_o prerogative_n and_o preeminence_n before_o other_o bishop_n and_o the_o estate_n also_o of_o the_o old_a bishop_n which_o live_v in_o those_o time_n wherein_o although_o there_o be_v great_a corruption_n yet_o the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d some_o tolerable_a estate_n to_o the_o intent_n it_o may_v appear_v partly_o how_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o have_v of_o they_o now_o &_o partly_o also_o how_o great_a difference_n there_o be_v between_o we_o and_o they_o o_o the_o name_n of_o metropolitanes_n it_o have_v be_v speak_v how_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o be_v call_v the_o chief_a o_o priest_n or_o the_o high_a priest_n or_o bishop_n of_o bishop_n now_o 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be_v now_o io._n whitgifte_n there_o be_v no_o council_n more_o flat_a against_o you_o than_o be_v that_o council_n of_o antioch_n nor_o any_o canon_n that_o overthrow_v your_o assertion_n more_o directe_o than_o that_o nine_o canon_n the_o word_n whereof_o i_o have_v repeat_v before_o but_o your_o untrue_a allegation_n in_o a_o manner_n compel_v i_o to_o repeat_v they_o again_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v before_o his_o eye_n what_o truth_n there_o be_v in_o your_o do_n and_o although_o it_o do_v perteyne_a to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o metropolitan_a or_o archebishoppe_n to_o call_v synod_n yet_o be_v there_o not_o one_o word_n thereof_o in_o this_o cannon_n nor_o yet_o of_o propound_v any_o matter_n in_o synod_n or_o of_o sing_v bishop_n keep_v themselves_o within_o their_o own_o diocese_n as_o you_o do_v here_o avouche_v without_o all_o truth_n and_o notwithstanding_o as_o i_o say_v before_o those_o thing_n do_v perteine_a to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o archebishoppe_n yet_o if_o they_o be_v also_o comprehend_v in_o that_o canon_n it_o be_v rather_o a_o confirmation_n of_o that_o office_n than_o otherwise_o the_o content_n of_o that_o canon_n be_v only_o these_o first_o it_o say_v that_o it_o behove_v the_o bishop_n of_o every_o country_n or_o province_n to_o know_v their_o metropolitan_a bishop_n to_o have_v the_o care_n and_o oversighte_n or_o government_n over_o the_o whole_a province_n by_o the_o which_o word_n the_o authority_n and_o name_n of_o a_o metropolitan_a or_o archebishoppe_n be_v most_o pl_z yne_o confirm_v and_o prove_v to_o be_v a_o permanent_a off_o ce_fw-fr second_o this_o canon_n will_v all_o those_o that_o have_v any_o business_n to_o do_v to_o resort_v to_o the_o metropolitan_a city_n whereby_o also_o be_v give_v to_o the_o metropolitan_a bishop_n great_a pre-eminence_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v immediate_o that_o he_o shall_v excel_v all_o the_o rest_n in_o honour_n and_o that_o the_o other_o bishop_n shall_v do_v nothing_o of_o importance_n without_o he_o according_a to_o the_o old_a rule_n make_v by_o their_o forefather_n but_o only_o those_o thing_n which_o perteyne_a to_o their_o own_o diocese_n and_o those_o place_n and_o possession_n that_o perteine_a unto_o the_o same_o in_o which_o word_n who_o see_v not_o what_o pre-eminence_n be_v give_v to_o the_o metropolitan_a over_o all_o the_o bishop_n in_o his_o province_n and_o what_o jurisdiction_n to_o the_o bishop_n in_o his_o own_o diocese_n and_o place_n perteyn_a unto_o it_o where_o also_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o the_o council_n say_v secundiòn_n antiquam_fw-la à _fw-la patribus_fw-la nostris_fw-la regulam_fw-la constitutam_fw-la according_o to_o the_o ancient_a rule_n appoint_v of_o our_o forefather_n which_o argue_v a_o great_a antiquity_n of_o this_o office_n then_o it_o follow_v for_o every_o bishop_n have_v authority_n over_o his_o own_o diocese_n to_o rule_v and_o govern_v it_o iuxta_fw-la reverentiam_fw-la singulis_fw-la 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〈◊〉_d and_o of_o other_o byshoppe_n say_v that_o they_o be_v assemble_v out_o at_o aquileia_n by_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o emperor_n the_o same_o do_v hierome_n testify_v concern_v a_o council_n hold_v at_o rome_n in_o epita_n pauli_n pope_n julio_n epist._n 9_o ad_fw-la theodos._n desire_v the_o emperor_n that_o by_o his_o authority_n there_o may_v be_v a_o council_n in_o italye_n zozomen_n libr._n 6._o cap._n 7._o show_v how_o certain_a catholyke_a bishop_n entreat_v the_o emperor_n that_o they_o may_v have_v leave_n to_o gather_v together_o for_o the_o redress_v of_o certain_a error_n but_o hat_n shall_v i_o need_v to_o labour_v in_o a_o matter_n most_o manifest_a no_o man_n can_v be_v ignorant_a that_o read_v ecclesiastical_a story_n but_o that_o the_o emperor_n authority_n be_v r_o quire_v in_o summon_v counsel_n and_o synod_n not_o only_o general_a but_o provincial_a also_o second_o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o the_o metropolitan_a in_o this_o church_n do_v not_o call_v synod_n or_o propound_v not_o the_o matter_n in_o they_o etc._n etc._n for_o he_o do_v both_o although_o he_o call_v no_o provincial_a synod_n without_o the_o command_n mean_v of_o the_o prince_n no_o more_o than_o other_o metropolitanes_n have_v oone_o in_o the_o best_a time_n of_o the_o church_n under_o christ_n a_o prince_n last_o of_o all_o though_o all_o this_o be_v true_a that_o be_v éere_o untrue_o affirm_v yet_o be_v the_o office_n of_o a_o archebishoppe_n necessary_a for_o it_o do_v not_o only_o consist_v in_o call_v synod_n but_o in_o sundry_a thing_n beside_o as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o and_o this_o council_n of_o antioch_n manifest_o declare_v and_o sure_o if_o you_o will_v prove_v any_o thing_n hereof_o directe_o it_o be_v old_a be_v this_o that_o eyth_v r_o the_o archebishoppe_n do_v not_o exercise_v that_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o ought_v to_o do_v or_o else_o can_v not_o do_v that_o which_o perteyn_v to_o his_o office_n and_o so_o shall_v you_o speak_v for_o the_o amendment_n of_o the_o archbishop_n jurisdiction_n again_o you_o say_v a_o other_o cause_n appear_v there_o which_o be_v to_o see_v that_o the_o bishop_n keep_v themselves_o within_o their_o own_o diocese_n etc._n etc._n but_o first_o this_o may_v be_v do_v without_o a_o archbishop_n etc._n etc._n i_o tell_v you_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o that_o nynthe_n canon_n i_o say_v further_o that_o it_o may_v beast_n a_o mos_fw-la e_o orderly_a be_v do_v by_o a_o archebis_n oppe_n three_o i_o answer_v as_o before_o that_o it_o be_v but_o one_o part_n of_o his_o office_n fourthe_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o that_o this_o be_v a_o simple_a argument_n the_o archebishoppe_n do_v not_o keep_v such_o old_a canon_n as_o be_v not_o in_o use_n in_o this_o church_n therefore_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o his_o office_n last_o of_o all_o you_o ought_v to_o know_v that_o the_o see_v who_o y_o you_o call_v wander_a minister_n be_v fai_fw-fr hefull_a preacher_n a_o number_n of_o they_o and_o 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