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bread_n be_v leaven_a wherefore_o this_o make_v against_o you_o and_o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o commandment_n that_o appertethe_v to_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o passover_n perpetual_a 2_o pa._n 130._o sect._n 2_o and_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o by_o that_o precept_n 2._o chro._n 35._o before_o allege_v it_o seem_v you_o will_v then_o must_v we_o make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n to_o have_v unleavened_a bread_n but_o as_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d so_o be_v this_o also_o for_o the_o kind_n of_o bread_n be_v indifferent_a although_o as_o m._n bucer_n say_v it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o institution_n indifferent_a the_o kind_n of_o bread_n of_o itself_o indifferent_a of_o christ_n to_o use_v unle_fw-mi vened_a bread_n b_o cause_n he_o do_v celebrate_v his_o supper_n with_o it_o if_o there_o be_v not_o other_o circumstance_n and_o reason_n to_o move_v the_o church_n sometime_o to_o use_v the_o contrary_n chap._n 1._o the._n 8._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n but_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a oversight_n of_o m._n doctor_n both_o 〈◊〉_d this_o section_n and_o that_o which_o go_v 〈◊〉_d fore_n that_o he_o have_v not_o learned_a to_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o that_o which_o be_v not_o ncere_o do_v &_o that_o which_o be_v not_o at_o all_o do_v for_o in_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d upon_o the_o admonition_n because_o they_o conclude_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v no_o examination_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d and_o sincere_o minister_v for_o say_v he_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o communicantes_fw-la be_v not_o of_o the_o jubstaunce_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o in_o this_o section_n he_o say_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o there_o be_v leaven_a or_o unleavened_a bread_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v but_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v understand_v that_o if_o either_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o bread_n and_o wine_n or_o the_o form_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o institution_n which_o thing_n be_v only_o substantial_a part_n be_v want_v that_o then_o there_o shall_v have_v be_v no_o sacrament_n minister_v at_o all_o but_o they_o be_v retain_v and_o yet_o other_o thing_n use_v which_o be_v not_o convenient_a the_o sacrament_n be_v minister_v but_o not_o sincere_o for_o example_n in_o the_o popish_a baptism_n there_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n but_o there_o be_v use_v spittle_n and_o cream_n and_o candle_n and_o such_o beggarly_a trumpery_n it_o be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v therefore_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o minister_v sincere_o and_o another_o thing_n to_o minister_v so_o that_o that_o which_o be_v of_o
an_o other_o reason_n you_o frame_v on_o this_o sort_n if_o the_o minister_n have_v both_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a power_n ▪_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v in_o their_o conscience_n of_o the_o mighty_a operation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o they_o for_o they_o may_v doubt_v whether_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o outward_a show_n of_o the_o minister_n carry_v ecclesiastical_a the_o replier_n argument_n sinit_v as_o well_o at_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d magistrate_n as_o at_o the_o ecclesiastical_a some_o stroke_n with_o they_o etc._n etc._n this_o be_v as_o vain_a a_o imagination_n as_o be_v the_o other_o and_o they_o both_o may_v as_o apt_o be_v apply_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o against_o the_o civil_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o minister_n yea_o in_o deed_n they_o serve_v to_o the_o overthrow_n of_o all_o kind_n of_o civil_a punishment_n for_o if_o the_o magistrate_n make_v sharp_a law_n for_o come_v to_o the_o church_n hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n contemn_v religion_n and_o such_o like_a man_n that_o by_o such_o mean_n be_v drive_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n &_o so_o at_o the_o length_n convert_v may_v doubt_v whether_o the_o word_n have_v wrought_v this_o in_o they_o or_o the_o fear_n of_o outward_a punishment_n do_v you_o not_o mark_v how_o he_o still_o smite_v at_o the_o magistrate_n percy_n te_fw-la you_o not_o how_o near_o he_o approach_v to_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o anabaptiste_n who_o will_v have_v no_o kind_n of_o discipline_n in_o the_o church_n but_o only_a excommunication_n salvation_n god_n use_v corporal_a punishment_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o salvation_n but_o to_o answer_v you_o brief_o god_n use_v corporal_a punishment_n as_o a_o mean_n to_o drive_v ▪_o even_o the_o elect_a to_o the_o hear_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n &_o to_o honesty_n of_o life_n he_o use_v it_o also_o to_o bridle_v the_o wicked_a that_o by_o their_o example_n other_o man_n may_v learn_v to_o beware_v and_o that_o they_o themselves_o also_o may_v be_v keep_v in_o order_n and_o no_o man_n that_o be_v true_o convert_v by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n can_v doubt_v but_o that_o god_n by_o the_o work_n of_o his_o spirit_n through_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o word_n have_v wrought_v that_o good_a in_o he_o though_o by_o external_a mean_n as_o fear_n of_o punishment_n and_o such_o like_a he_o be_v first_o as_o it_o be_v enforce_v to_o hear_v the_o word_n and_o to_o keep_v himself_o in_o order_n in_o deed_n if_o these_o reason_n of_o you_o be_v of_o any_o force_n the_o magistrate_n may_v put_v up_o his_o sword_n especial_o in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n and_o so_o may_v the_o minister_n lie_v aside_o his_o authority_n also_o lest_o any_o thing_n be_v ascribe_v there_o unto_o your_o glance_n that_o this_o be_v also_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o idolater_n though_o you_o have_v not_o where_o prove_v it_o yet_o have_v i_o answer_v it_o before_o chap._n 3._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o sect._n ult._n but_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o civil_a office_n be_v not_o to_o be_v count_v worldly_a affair_n but_o heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a ▪_o it_o be_v so_o and_o yet_o when_o they_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o ecclesiastical_a office_n they_o may_v be_v call_v secular_a office_n for_o so_o much_o as_o they_o to_o gether_o with_o the_o care_n of_o religion_n procure_v and_o provide_v for_o the_o thing_n whereby_o we_o may_v quiet_o and_o commodious_o live_v here_o where_o the_o ecclesiastical_a office_n be_v immediate_o and_o only_o bend_v to_o procure_v the_o glory_n of_o god_n and_o the_o salvation_n of_o man_n and_o in_o that_o signification_n of_o heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a which_o you_o take_v merchandise_n husbandry_n and_o the_o handycrafte_n be_v heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a although_o not_o in_o the_o same_o degree_n all_o lawful_a calling_n come_v from_o god_n and_o return_v to_o he_o again_o that_o be_v he_o be_v both_o author_n of_o they_o and_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v refer_v to_o his_o glory_n so_o that_o if_o the_o minister_n may_v exercise_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v heavenly_a and_o spiritual_a you_o may_v as_o well_o bring_v he_o down_o to_o the_o plough_n as_o promote_v he_o to_o the_o court_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o call_v they_o ecclesiastical_a because_o they_o perteyne_a to_o the_o inward_a man_n to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a the_o cluill_a jurisdiction_n now_o use_v be_v in_o some_o respect_n ecclesiastical_a reformation_n of_o manner_n to_o the_o punishment_n of_o sin_n to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o religion_n to_o the_o quietness_n of_o the_o church_n and_o good_a order_n in_o the_o same_o so_o do_v not_o all_o cyvill_a office_n much_o less_o husbandry_n merchandise_n handycrafte_n go_v to_o the_o plough_n and_o such_o like_a which_o only_o perteyne_a to_o the_o body_n and_o to_o this_o life_n not_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o end_n that_o i_o have_v before_o name_v wherefore_o here_o your_o wit_n fail_v you_o and_o i_o look_v for_o a_o better_a answer_n chap._n 3._o the._n 6._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o lin._n 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d m._n doctor_n say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o commissioner_n be_v ecclesiastical_a because_o it_o handle_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n i_o marvel_v that_o he_o be_v so_o ignorant_a that_o he_o can_v not_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o give_v iudiciail_n sentence_n and_o appoint_v bodily_a punishment_n which_o be_v mere_a civil_a and_o between_o the_o understanding_n the_o truth_n of_o every_o such_o cause_n according_a as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n define_v of_o it_o which_o be_v a_o thing_n common_a as_o well_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n as_o unto_o the_o minister_n &_o wherein_o the_o minister_n because_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v most_o ready_a ought_v if_o need_v be_v consult_v with_o io._n whitgifte_n sure_o i_o think_v you_o scarce_o understande_v yourself_o for_o if_o the_o cause_n be_v ecclesiastical_a why_o may_v not_o the_o punishment_n by_o the_o magistrate_n appoint_v unto_o they_o be_v execute_v by_o ecclesiastical_a person_n have_v authority_n from_o the_o prince_n by_o commission_n so_o to_o do_v and_o if_o the_o ecclesiastical_a person_n may_v give_v sentence_n and_o judgement_n in_o these_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n why_o may_v he_o not_o consent_v also_o to_o the_o punishment_n appoint_v for_o the_o same_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v he_o shall_v be_v the_o jailor_n or_o tormentor_n himself_o but_o to_o judge_v the_o person_n offend_v worthy_a of_o this_o or_o that_o kind_n of_o punishment_n and_o to_o give_v sentence_n of_o the_o crime_n that_o he_o have_v commit_v &_o to_o determine_v of_o the_o cause_n that_o be_v call_v into_o judgement_n chap._n 3._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o a_o other_o of_o m._n doctor_n reason_n be_v that_o as_o king_n do_v serve_v christ_n by_o make_v law_n for_o he_o so_o bishop_n do_v serve_v christ_n by_o execute_v law_n for_o he_o as_o though_o it_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o the_o magistrate_n to_o execute_v law_n as_o well_o as_o to_o make_v they_o and_o as_o if_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o therefore_o call_v a_o speak_a law_n because_o by_o execute_v they_o he_o do_v cause_n the_o law_n after_o a_o fashion_n to_o speak_v this_o be_v to_o divide_v the_o stake_n of_o the_o magistrate_n between_o he_o and_o the_o bishop_n yea_o to_o gyve_v the_o bishop_n the_o best_a part_n of_o it_o for_o we_o know_v that_o with_o we_o the_o people_n be_v at_o make_v of_o the_o law_n which_o may_v not_o meddle_v with_o the_o execution_n of_o they_o and_o if_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o he_o mean_v not_o hereby_o to_o shut_v the_o prince_n from_o execute_v the_o law_n then_o as_o his_o similitude_n when_o it_o be_v at_o the_o best_a prove_v nothing_o so_o by_o this_o mean_v it_o halt_v down_o right_a and_o be_v no_o similitude_n io._n whitgifte_n the_o prince_n execute_v his_o law_n by_o himself_o &_o he_o also_o execute_v they_o by_o other_o to_o who_o he_o have_v give_v that_o authority_n for_o the_o full_a and_o better_a execution_n of_o they_o in_o this_o number_n be_v the_o bishop_n for_o the_o authority_n they_o have_v in_o such_o matter_n they_o have_v from_o the_o prince_n and_o therefore_o their_o execute_n of_o it_o be_v not_o to_o divide_v stake_n with_o the_o cyvill_a magistrate_n but_o to_o do_v good_a service_n both_o to_o god_n and_o the_o magistrate_n chap._n 3._o the._n 8._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 217._o sect_n 1._o 2._o what_o say_v you_o to_o elye_v and_o samuel_n be_v they_o not_o both_o priest_n judge_n samuel_n priest_n &_o judge_n and_o judge_n what_o office_n do_v the_o prophet_n elias_n execute_v when_o he_o kill_v the_o false_a prophet_n of_o baal_n 1._o reg._n 18._o or_o christ_n when_o he_o whip_v the_o