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A02779 A discoursiue probleme concerning prophesies how far they are to be valued, or credited, according to the surest rules, and directions in diuinitie, philosophie, astrologie, and other learning: deuised especially in abatement of the terrible threatenings, and menaces, peremptorily denounced against the kingdoms, and states of the world, this present famous yeere, 1588, supposed the greatwonderfull, and fatall yeere of our age. By I.H. physition. Harvey, John, 1564-1592. 1588 (1588) STC 12908; ESTC S103904 90,621 134

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c. Mathew 7. What should we then as is also premised looke still and still for more prophesies Haue we not already Moyses and the prophets Nay haue we not the Messias himselfe and his apostles more woorth than all the prophets of all ages of all languages of all countries of all religions or of whatsoeuer ordinary or extraordinary qualitie in the world Wherfore not Lazarus arising againe from death could mooue vs if these cannot mooue vs. The eies of our harts are or should be opened by the cléere bright Gospell of Christ and shall the eies of the body expect any farther sight of miracles Must we euermore be fed like yoong children Or continually trained vp like Infidels or Ethniques If there be any wonders a wonderfull masteries wrought now adaies are they not performed either by incantations such as the sorcerers of Pharao vsed which howsoeuer they séeme glorious in the view of the world are odious in the sight of God nothing lesse than wonders indéede but the onely subtill illusions of the Diuell or else contriued by the deceitfull legierdemaine and craftie conueiance of shifting iuglers and cogging impostors such as amongst infinite other of that same foisting crue namely Scotto and Feates vsed séeming likewise in apparance to haue done and vndone that which in very truth they coulde neuer doo or vndoo but made semblance thereof by the diuels sophistry and their owne counterfet sleights For touching naturall Magicians and their cunning practises such as Archita Tarentinus and our Roger Bacon vsed are they any better than philosophicall experiments or mathematicall conclusions and therefore no woonders or myracles séeing euery right woonder such as Moises and Elisaeus vsed were neither fained apparances or deceptions of sight nor any naturall or mathematicall experiments but altogither supernaturall supermathematicall and true myracles Pharaos sorcerers might incantatiuely turne their rods into serpents as Aaron miraculously did but of so like effects were not the causes very vnlike and did not finally Aarons rod deuour their rods Exod. 7. 12. Or was not Pharao with his whole Aegyptian hoste and inchanters themselues drowned in the midst of the sea wheras Moyses and the children of Israel safely walked thorough vpon dry ground Exod. 14. But to ouerpasse this point with diuers like matters wherein the worshipfull gentleman master Reginald Scot hath lately deserued good commendations for his learned discouery of such palpable collusions and to returne againe vnto our former argument what better account are we to make of those odde conceited predictions blowen abroad in the name of our famous Karmarden prophet Ambrose Merlin are they not likewise as guilfull and fraudulent as the residue and euen like to our Karmarden frizes now adayes Or do they not too sensibly sauour of his good moothers condition who voluntarily vowed vnto king Vortiger that she neuer had carnall companie with mortall man As if hir yoong sonne forsooth had béene begotten of some demi-god or some incarnate spirit or Incubus or without corporall copulation or after I wot not what strange and woonderous maner Indéede if we will beléeue Thomas Aquinas Danaeus Hyperius Monsieur Bodyne with sundry other as ful well we may no doubt they prooue very rare singular fellowes which are so begotten for where was there euer any such certainty knowen So that in this respect it was a cunning practise of Adhan aswel to insinuate an extraordinarie opinion of hir sonne vnto the king as otherwise to couer hir owne shame and dishonesty who euen that day went still for a virgin to vse the pretended cloke of Incubus or such like glozing blindation but how little credite is to be assigned either to the one or to the other what reasonable man of any sensible capacitie deuoid of superstition and blinde credulitie vnderstandeth not My selfe haue as well purposely as incidently run ouer many prophesies fathered vpon Merlin yea more I dare say than euer that counterfet wrot some in verse othersome in prose some in latin othersome in english some written some imprinted some in common letters othersome in newfounde Alphabets and mysticall characters whereof amongst many of the same stampe behold one trim Hexameter relique which a certaine vnlearned empirical imposter first shewed me Anno 1580. for a very speciall déepe secret and profound mathematicall monument as he supposed being raggedly scrawled in od disguised maner of Astrologicall characters as insueth The Title or Inscription ♎ ♄ ☋ ♁ ♎ ♄ ♐ ♉ ♋ ♌ ☉ ♌ ♌ ♈ ♐ ♍ ♂ The Prophesie it selfe ♀ ♍ ♏ ♈ ♌ ♋ ☿ ♌ ♎ ☋ ♃ ♓ ♂ ☿ ☿ ♊ ♋ ♏ ♌ ♍ ♒ ♑ ☽ ♌ ♋ ♑ ♊ ♌ ♈ ♂ ♃ ♌ ☿ ♁ ♓ ☋ ☿ ☿ ♐ ♉ ♂ ☋ ♉ ♊ ☉ ☽ ♁ ♓ ♌ ☿ ♏ ♌ ♍ ♒ ♒ ♉ ♃ ☿ ♌ ♋ ♏ ♀ ♈ ♌ ♀ ☋ ♁ ♓ ♂ ☿ ♂ ♋ ♈ ♌ ♋ ☉ ♌ ♍ ♀ ☿ ♊ ☋ ♄ ♂ ♃ ♂ ☋ ♍ ♌ ♉ ♀ ♒ ♌ ♍ ♒ ♌ ♓ ♌ ♋ ☿ ☽ ☋ ♐ ♉ ♌ ♉ ☋ ♌ ♎ ♌ ♍ ☿ ♌ ♍ ♋ ♊ ♀ ♈ ♌ ☽ ♂ ♒ ☉ ♁ ☋ ♒ ♀ ☿ ♑ ☽ ♌ ☋ ♊ ♌ ♍ ♋ ☿ ♌ ♉ ♁ ☿ ☉ ♎ ☋ ♁ ♒ ☿ ♌ ☋ ♍ ♌ ☿ ♍ ♌ ♉ ♏ ☋ ♍ ♒ ☿ ♊ ♀ ☿ ♋ ♈ ♌ ♀ ♉ ♐ ☋ ♍ ♂ ☿ ♎ ♋ ♀ ♒ ♌ ☉ ☽ ♈ ♋ ☿ ♀ ☽ ♈ ♊ ♂ ☿ ♎ ♋ ♀ ♄ ☋ ♉ ♎ ♀ ♋ ☽ ♋ ♈ ♒ ♀ ♎ ☋ ♁ ♀ ☿ ☋ ☽ ♀ ♋ ♎ ♉ ♈ ♋ ☉ ♍ ♋ ☉ ♑ ☽ ♌ ☋ ♊ ☿ ♐ ♏ ☋ ♀ ♊ ♂ ☉ ♌ ♑ ☽ ♌ ♎ ♌ ♍ ♀ ♎ ♋ ☋ ♀ ☿ ♊ ☋ A woonderfull hidden and abstruse Hyeroglyphical mysterie I warrant you such a one doubtles as no meane foole may easily be made acquainted withall in truth amongst a capcase full of such forgeries and mockeries as it is one of the briefest and someway notablest so it séemed vnto me euen the most apert simple and sensible being once stripped out of the counterfet masking liuerie which I therefore the rather here inserted being loth to trouble the reader or offend any religious eie with the longest or vainest comments in this bootles kind when the shortest and very best I doubt may haply séeme ouertedious vnto some both learned and wise neuertheles reputing it such an one as ful easily might and no doubt did procéede from the fantasticall or pragmatical coniectures of some busy discoursing deuiser not from any other propheticall instinct or farther extraordinarie influence wherewith Merlyn was déemed and still of many is supposed to haue béene supernaturally inspired Howbeit to the intent the thing might appéer the more autentical as it were radicall abhibuit latebram obscuritatis as Tully iesteth at one of Sibilles commeners setting a strange countenance on the matter and facing it out with a certaine learned tincture that should require as well a Steganographicall decipherer as a logicall or philosophicall interpreter O maruellous cunning O goodly sophistication But lo the poore sillie