dominus_fw-la ut_fw-la filios_fw-la israel_n secundò_fw-la circumcideret_fw-la frat_fw-la autem_fw-la circumcisio_fw-la signum_fw-la faederis_fw-la dei_fw-la omninò_fw-la ad_fw-la religionem_fw-la pertinens_fw-la sequitur_fw-la in_fw-la persona_fw-la samuelis_fw-la cohaesere_fw-la quidèm_fw-la &_o magistratus_fw-la &_o sacerdotium_fw-la veram_fw-la moderandae_fw-la religionis_fw-la curam_fw-la sustinuit_fw-la ille_fw-la quoque_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la magistratus_fw-la quo_fw-la tum_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la in_o israele_n superior_a ut_fw-la magistratus_fw-la indicabat_fw-la israelem_fw-la ac_fw-la disponebat_fw-la publica_fw-la omne_fw-la tam_fw-la sacrae_fw-la quam_fw-la prophana_fw-la ut_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la sacrificabat_fw-la pro_fw-la populo_fw-la orabat_fw-la illumque_fw-la docebat_fw-la moses_n the_o first_o catholic_n magistrate_n in_o israel_n bear_v the_o person_n not_o of_o a_o priest_n which_o be_v impose_v upon_o aaron_n but_o of_o a_o high_a power_n like_o unto_o a_o king_n appoint_a order_n for_o all_o manner_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o prescribe_v to_o aaron_n himself_o and_o to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o levit_n both_o what_o they_o shall_v do_v and_o what_o they_o shall_v avoid_v and_o leave_v undo_v wherein_o we_o see_v evident_o that_o the_o care_n of_o order_v religion_n do_v more_o pertain_v to_o the_o high_a magistrate_n then_o to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o priest_n after_o the_o death_n of_o moses_n the_o care_n of_o religion_n together_o with_o the_o magistracy_n be_v devolue_v not_o to_o eleazar_n the_o priest_n but_o to_o josuah_n the_o son_n of_o nun_n who_o be_v not_o of_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n but_o of_o ephraim_n to_o he_o god_n give_v commandment_n that_o he_o shoâ—â—â—_n circumcise_v the_o second_o time_n the_o child_n of_o israel_n but_o circumcision_n doubtless_o be_v the_o sign_n of_o god_n covenant_n which_o pertain_v whole_o to_o religion_n in_o the_o person_n of_o samuel_n there_o do_v cohere_v both_o the_o magistracy_n &_o the_o priesthood_n but_o he_o receive_v the_o charge_n of_o moderate_a religion_n not_o as_o he_o be_v a_o priest_n but_o as_o he_o be_v a_o magistrate_n great_a then_o who_o there_o be_v none_o at_o that_o time_n in_o israel_n as_o a_o magistrate_n he_o do_v judge_v israel_n and_o order_v all_o public_a affair_n as_o well_o sacred_a as_o profane_v ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a but_o as_o a_o priest_n he_o offer_v sacrifice_n pray_v for_o the_o people_n and_o teach_v they_o out_o of_o these_o word_n of_o this_o great_a learned_a writer_n i_o note_v these_o golden_a lesson_n for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o well_o affect_a reader_n first_o that_o moses_n be_v a_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v authority_n like_a unto_o a_o king_n second_o that_o his_o power_n be_v great_a than_o be_v the_o authority_n of_o aaron_n the_o high_a priest_n three_o that_o moses_n order_v all_o matter_n in_o religion_n and_o not_o aaron_n who_o be_v the_o high_a priest_n four_o that_o he_o appoint_v to_o aaron_n and_o to_o the_o whole_a order_n of_o the_o levite_n both_o what_o they_o shall_v do_v and_o what_o they_o shall_v leave_v undo_v five_o that_o the_o charge_n &_o care_n of_o religion_n do_v appertain_v more_o near_o to_o the_o magistrate_n then_o to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o priest_n six_o that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v the_o charge_n and_o care_n of_o order_v religion_n inseparable_o annex_v to_o his_o civil_a office_n in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o magistrate_n seven_o that_o a_o bishop_n may_v have_v authority_n to_o deal_v in_o civil_a cause_n as_o samuel_n do_v eight_o that_o samuel_n dispose_v all_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n not_o as_o he_o be_v priest_n but_o as_o he_o be_v 2._o the_o civil_a magistrate_n all_o which_o observation_n this_o learned_a writer_n prove_v by_o the_o example_n of_o many_o king_n of_o david_n solomon_n asa_n josaphat_n ezechias_n and_o other_o and_o of_o king_n david_n he_o add_v this_o most_o golden_a and_o memorable_a sentence_n david_n quoniam_fw-la sciebat_fw-la hanc_fw-la primam_fw-la curam_fw-la pertinere_fw-la ad_fw-la reges_fw-la &_o magistratus_fw-la ut_fw-la religio_fw-la deiritè_fw-fr disponatur_fw-la hortatus_fw-la choose_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la id_fw-la offiâ—ij_fw-la david_n because_o he_o know_v this_o chief_a care_n to_o pertain_v to_o magistrate_n to_o see_v religion_n right_o order_v he_o exhort_v they_o to_o that_o office_n say_v now_o o_o king_n understand_v be_v learned_a you_o that_o judge_v the_o earth_n whosoever_o read_v this_o learned_a writer_n serious_o throughout_o his_o whole_a discourse_n can_v no_o long_o stand_v doubtful_a of_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o question_n 9_o zanchius_n a_o most_o learned_a writer_n and_o a_o man_n of_o singular_a judgement_n in_o that_o book_n which_o he_o leave_v for_o a_o testimony_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o christian_a belief_n unto_o the_o world_n and_o therefore_o the_o more_o to_o be_v regard_v have_v these_o express_a word_n improbamus_fw-la &_o illos_fw-la qui_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la necis_fw-la tantum_fw-la causa_fw-la attribuunt_fw-la magistratibus_fw-la dum_fw-la illos_fw-la negant_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la habere_fw-la convocandi_fw-la synodos_fw-la deliberandide_fw-la religione_fw-la reformandiecclesias_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la ad_fw-la populorum_fw-la salutem_fw-la pertinent_a e_fw-la sacris_fw-la literis_fw-la statuend_n aliudque_fw-la eo_fw-la esse_fw-la nolunt_fw-la quam_fw-la eorum_fw-la quae_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopis_fw-la definiuntur_fw-la exequntores_fw-la we_o reprove_v in_o like_a manner_n all_o those_o who_o yield_v and_o give_v authority_n in_o religion_n unto_o magistrate_n only_o in_o capital_a matter_n touch_v death_n while_o they_o deny_v they_o authority_n to_o call_v synod_n to_o consult_v of_o religion_n to_o reform_v church_n and_o to_o appoint_v out_o of_o god_n word_n the_o thing_n that_o pertain_v to_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o subject_n and_o will_v only_o have_v they_o to_o be_v the_o bare_a executor_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o bishop_n do_v decree_n thus_o write_v this_o learned_a doctor_n a_o man_n of_o as_o great_a a_o judgement_n as_o any_o be_v in_o the_o christian_n world_n out_o of_o who_o word_n i_o note_v first_o that_o he_o condemn_v many_o who_o now_o adays_o think_v themselves_o very_o wise_a second_o he_o avow_v that_o magistrate_n have_v authority_n to_o call_v synod_n three_o that_o they_o have_v power_n to_o deliberate_v of_o religion_n four_o that_o they_o have_v authority_n to_o reform_v the_o minister_n and_o church-affaire_n five_o that_o they_o have_v power_n to_o order_v those_o thing_n which_o pertain_v unto_o man_n salvation_n master_n martyr_n a_o very_a learned_a writer_n discourse_v at_o large_a both_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o of_o the_o magistrate_n he_o show_v most_o excellent_o both_o how_o the_o minister_n 161._o ought_v to_o exhort_v and_o rebuke_v the_o magistrate_n and_o how_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o reform_v govern_v and_o punish_v the_o minister_n some_o part_n of_o his_o golden_a discourse_n i_o will_v brief_o set_v down_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o the_o rest_n to_o the_o place_n quote_v in_o the_o margin_n nihil_fw-la est_fw-la in_o toto_fw-la mundo_fw-la ad_fw-la quod_fw-la verbâ—_n dei_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la extendat_fw-la quocirca_fw-la longè_fw-la falluntur_fw-la qui_fw-la clamitare_fw-la solent_fw-la quid_fw-la conscionator_n cum_fw-la rep_n quid_fw-la cum_fw-la armis_fw-la quid_fw-la cum_fw-la pharmacopolis_fw-la quid_fw-la cum_fw-la cocis_fw-la at_o dicat_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v nothing_o in_o the_o whole_a world_n to_o which_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o extend_v itself_o wherefore_o they_o be_v far_o deceive_v that_o be_v wont_a to_o exclaim_v and_o say_v what_o have_v the_o preacher_n to_o do_v with_o the_o commonweal_n what_o have_v he_o to_o do_v with_o war_n what_o with_o the_o apothecary_n what_o with_o cook_n but_o let_v these_o good_a fellow_n tell_v we_o why_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n word_n when_o he_o perceive_v god_n law_n to_o be_v transgress_v in_o these_o thing_n may_v not_o rebuke_v the_o same_o out_o of_o god_n word_n why_o he_o may_v not_o admonish_v the_o malefactor_n why_o he_o may_v not_o exhort_v they_o to_o desist_v from_o sin_n it_o be_v his_o part_n doubtless_o to_o reprove_v sinner_n not_o with_o the_o sword_n not_o with_o pecuniary_a mulct_n not_o with_o imprisonment_n not_o with_o the_o sword_n not_o with_o exile_n but_o with_o the_o force_n &_o power_n of_o god_n word_n then_o this_o learned_a man_n proceed_v and_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n must_v see_v and_o provide_v that_o the_o bishop_n pastor_n &_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n do_v teach_v god_n word_n pure_o rebuke_v sinner_n fatherly_a and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n reverent_o after_o this_o he_o tell_v his_o reader_n that_o king_n have_v not_o charge_v only_o of_o the_o body_n of_o their_o subject_n but_o of_o their_o soul_n also_o for_o say_v this_o great_a learned_a doctor_n we_o must_v not_o make_v prince_n swineheard_n and_o herdsman_n for_o keeper_n of_o cattle_n who_o have_v care_n only_o of_o the_o belly_n flesh_n
to_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n over_o the_o other_o bishop_n and_o minister_n in_o england_n now_o for_o answer_v to_o the_o other_o part_n of_o the_o objection_n touch_v high_a commissioner_n justice_n of_o peace_n and_o quorum_fw-la i_o have_v referue_v the_o next_o chapter_n chap._n vi_o of_o civil_a office_n in_o ecclesiastical_a person_n the_o authority_n in_o civil_a matter_n commit_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o make_v a_o thing_n intrinsical_o incident_a to_o the_o valdè_fw-la ministry_n or_o as_o a_o part_n thereof_o but_o it_o be_v commit_v to_o they_o by_o the_o prince_n who_o his_o subject_n be_v not_o to_o limit_v what_o person_n he_o shall_v use_v in_o counsel_n or_o to_o who_o he_o shall_v commit_v the_o execution_n of_o his_o law_n and_o it_o be_v add_v to_o their_o ministry_n as_o profitable_a and_o necessary_a for_o the_o present_a state_n and_o good_a of_o the_o church_n which_o good_a to_o be_v procure_v by_o that_o mean_n rather_o than_o by_o any_o other_o employment_n beside_o it_o may_v appear_v both_o by_o experience_n and_o practice_v by_o experience_n for_o that_o we_o see_v those_o kingdom_n prince_n and_o people_n most_o bless_a of_o god_n where_o learned_a and_o godly_a bishop_n have_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o prince_n counsel_n by_o practice_v because_o i_o have_v both_o hear_v and_o read_v that_o master_n calvin_n and_o master_n beza_n be_v admit_v to_o be_v counselor_n of_o the_o seat_n at_o geneva_n be_v think_v sit_v man_n for_o that_o place_n who_o doubtless_o will_v never_o have_v yield_v thereunto_o if_o they_o have_v think_v it_o a_o thing_n either_o unlawful_a in_o itself_o or_o incompatible_a to_o their_o function_n no_o no_o it_o be_v neither_o ungodly_a nor_o yet_o unseemly_a for_o a_o minister_n to_o come_v from_o the_o pulpit_n to_o the_o correction_n of_o vice_n sin_n and_o wickedness_n but_o contrariwise_o it_o be_v so_o godly_a so_o comely_a and_o so_o necessary_a that_o it_o ever_o have_v be_v usual_a both_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n in_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o in_o the_o law_n of_o grace_n for_o first_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n melchisedech_n be_v both_o king_n and_o priest_n so_o report_v holy_a moses_n in_o his_o book_n of_o genèsis_n and_o saint_n paul_n to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o saint_n hierome_n 95._o tell_v we_o that_o all_o the_o elder_a son_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n be_v both_o king_n and_o priest_n aiunt_fw-la hunc_fw-la esse_fw-la sem_fw-mi filium_fw-la noah_n &_o supputantes_fw-la annos_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la ipsius_fw-la ostendunt_fw-la eum_fw-la ad_fw-la isaac_n usque_fw-la vixisse_fw-la omnesque_fw-la primogenitos_fw-la noah_n donec_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la fungeretur_fw-la aaron_n fuisse_fw-la pontifices_fw-la the_o hebrew_n say_v saint_n hierome_n affirm_v this_o melchisadech_n to_o be_v sem_fw-mi the_o son_n of_o noah_n and_o reckon_v the_o year_n of_o his_o life_n they_o show_v we_o that_o he_o live_v until_o isaac_n and_o that_o all_o the_o first_o beget_v of_o noah_n until_o aaron_n priesthood_n begin_v be_v bishop_n yea_o whosoever_o will_v deny_v that_o noah_n abraham_n isaac_n jacob_n and_o other_o do_v rule_v over_o those_o who_o be_v commit_v to_o their_o charge_n as_o well_o in_o ecclesiastical_a mosis_fw-la as_o civil_a cause_n they_o may_v true_o be_v say_v to_o know_v nothing_o in_o the_o scripture_n second_o in_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n moses_n himself_o be_v both_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o a_o priest_n for_o moses_n 10._o judge_v the_o people_n from_o morning_n unto_o even_o he_o put_v the_o malefactor_n to_o death_n who_o have_v commit_v idolatry_n he_o consecrate_a aaron_n and_o his_o son_n and_o burn_v sweet_a incense_n on_o the_o golden_a altar_n heli_n be_v both_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o judge_v of_o the_o people_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 40_o year_n together_o samuel_n likewise_o be_v both_o a_o priest_n and_o judge_n over_o the_o people_n for_o the_o space_n of_o 30._o year_n together_o the_o good_a king_n josaphat_n make_v the_o priest_n judge_n both_o in_o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a cause_n and_o after_o the_o captivity_n of_o the_o jew_n the_o maccabee_n be_v ruler_n aswell_o in_o civil_a as_o in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n read_v the_o book_n of_o the_o maccabee_n josephus_n &_o egesippus_fw-la and_o this_o truth_n will_v soon_o appear_v but_o what_o need_v many_o word_n in_o a_o case_n so_o clear_a and_o evident_a god_n himself_o make_v a_o general_a law_n that_o the_o priest_n &_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n shall_v iont_o determine_v judge_v and_o decide_v all_o controversy_n these_o be_v the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o law_n if_o there_o rise_v a_o matter_n too_o 9_o hard_o for_o thou_o in_o judgement_n between_o boold_a and_o blood_n between_o plea_n and_o plea_n between_o plague_n and_o plague_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o controversy_n within_o thy_o gate_n then_o shall_v thou_o arise_v and_o go_v unto_o the_o place_n which_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n shall_v choose_v and_o thou_o shall_v come_v to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o levite_n &_o to_o the_o judge_n that_o shall_v be_v in_o those_o day_n and_o ask_v and_o they_o shall_v show_v thou_o the_o sentence_n of_o judgement_n these_o word_n be_v so_o plain_a as_o all_o interpretation_n may_v be_v think_v needless_a three_o in_o the_o gospel_n and_o new_a testament_n we_o gratiae_fw-la have_v a_o plurality_n of_o example_n in_o this_o behalf_n s._n paul_n when_o he_o make_v his_o abode_n at_o corinthus_n with_o aquila_n and_o prescilla_n who_o claudius_n the_o emperor_n have_v drive_v from_o rome_n he_o 3._o wrought_v with_o his_o hand_n be_v of_o the_o same_o craft_n with_o they_o and_o make_v tent_n as_o they_o do_v s._n augustine_n think_v it_o a_o thing_n so_o lawful_a for_o a_o bishop_n to_o be_v judge_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a that_o i_o wonder_v how_o any_o man_n hear_v or_o read_v his_o own_o word_n can_v any_o long_o stand_v in_o doubt_n thereof_o thus_o do_v he_o write_v quis_fw-la 7._o plantat_fw-la vineam_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr fructu_fw-la eius_fw-la non_fw-la edit_fw-la quis_fw-la pascit_fw-la gregem_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr lacte_fw-la gregis_fw-la non_fw-la percipit_fw-la tamen_fw-la dominum_fw-la jesum_fw-la in_fw-la cvius_fw-la nomine_fw-la securus_fw-la haec_fw-la dico_fw-la testem_fw-la invoco_fw-la super_fw-la animam_fw-la meam_fw-la quoniam_fw-la quantum_fw-la attinet_fw-la ad_fw-la meum_fw-la commodum_fw-la multo_fw-la mallem_fw-la per_fw-la singulos_fw-la dies_fw-la certis_fw-la horis_fw-la quantum_fw-la in_o bene_fw-la moderatis_fw-la monasterijs_fw-la constitutum_fw-la est_fw-la aliquid_fw-la manibus_fw-la operari_fw-la &_o caeteras_fw-la horas_fw-la babere_fw-la ad_fw-la legendum_fw-la &_o orandum_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquid_fw-la de_fw-la divinis_fw-la litteris_fw-la agendum_fw-la liberas_fw-la quam_fw-la tumultuosissimas_fw-la perplexitates_fw-la causar_n unalienarum_fw-la patide_n negotijs_fw-la secularibus_fw-la vel_fw-la 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