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A43801 A debate on the justice and piety of the present constitution under K. William in two parts, the first relating to the state, the second to the church : between Eucheres, a conformist, and Dyscheres, a recusant / by Samuel Hill ... Hill, Samuel, 1648-1716. 1696 (1696) Wing H2008; ESTC R34468 172,243 292

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