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sacrament_n that_o can_v preach_v 4_o sacrament_n minister_v in_o private_a pla_fw-la ces_fw-fr 511._o etc._n etc._n doctrine_n tend_v to_o the_o derogation_n of_o sacrament_n 524_o necessity_n of_o salvation_n not_o tie_v too_o sacrament_n 52_o 5_o 4_o the_o life_n of_o sacrament_n depend_v not_o of_o preach_v 566_o every_o one_o must_v apply_v the_o sacrament_n to_o himself_o 601_o the_o sacrament_n pure_o minister_v pag._n 606_o sacrament_n receyve_v the_o name_n of_o thing_n signify_v 608_o what_o be_v require_v to_o the_o make_n of_o a_o sacrament_n 618_o the_o proper_a signification_n of_o sacrament_n 618_o outward_a sacrament_n give_v not_o grace_n pag._n 73_o sacramental_a sign_n 738_o every_o thing_n signify_v be_v not_o a_o sacrament_n 291._o 617._o 618_o ¶_o saint_n day_n 543._o etc._n etc._n why_o the_o name_n of_o saint_n be_v give_v to_o our_o lydaye_n 543_o ¶_o saunders_n &_o the_o reply_o agree_v 695_o ¶_o scevola_n 708_o scarce_o the_o face_n of_o a_o church_n what_o 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authority_n in_o ecclesiasticalll_n matter_n and_o so_o do_v they_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n 6._o i_o have_v answer_v in_o the_o it_o the_o where_o you_o have_v not_o speak_v one_o word_n of_o it_o ten_o article_n of_o anabaptisme_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o answer_n be_v there_o very_o confuse_a and_o uncertain_a but_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o article_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o certain_a note_n which_o i_o have_v collect_v out_o of_o your_o book_n touch_v this_o matter_n in_o this_o my_o defence_n io._n whitgifte_n a_o exhortation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 6._o sect._n 6._o to_o be_v short_a the_o papist_n refuse_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n to_o communicate_v with_o we_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o these_o man_n will_v not_o have_v they_o by_o law_n and_o punishment_n compel_v thereunto_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n ult._n i_o answer_v that_o doeg_n when_o he_o say_v that_o david_n come_v to_o abimilech_n say_v nothing_o but_o truth_n and_o when_o they_o 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christ_n neither_o can_v you_o make_v the_o one_o in_o all_o point_n correspondent_a to_o the_o other_o likewise_o betwixt_o the_o decline_a of_o those_o priest_n which_o be_v whole_o from_o god_n to_o gentility_n &_o the_o falling_n of_o we_o to_o papistry_n which_o confess_v the_o same_o article_n of_o faith_n that_o we_o do_v although_o not_o sincere_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n whole_o to_o worship_v false_a god_n a_o other_o thing_n to_o worship_v the_o true_a god_n false_o and_o superstitious_o but_o among_o all_o other_o thing_n i_o will_v glad_o know_v wherein_o king_n edward_n priest_n have_v offend_v you_o it_o be_v happy_a you_o let_v queen_n elizabeth_n priest_n alone_o i_o marvel_v who_o priest_n you_o be_v t._n c._n page_n 27._o sect._n 5._o 6._o whereas_o you_o say_v there_o
neither_o so_o strange_a nor_o so_o untrue_a as_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o make_v the_o reader_n believe_v i_o have_v set_v down_o those_o author_n which_o have_v teach_v i_o so_o to_o say_v bullinger_n upon_o the_o same_o place_n say_v thus_o caeterum_fw-la dictio_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ita_fw-la ponitur_fw-la ut_fw-la velsuffragijs_fw-la populi_fw-la delectos_fw-la esse_fw-la vel_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositione_n inauguratos_fw-la intelligere_fw-la possimus_fw-la but_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v so_o place_v that_o we_o may_v understande_v either_o that_o they_o be_v choose_v by_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o people_n or_o ordain_v by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n m._n caluine_n upon_o the_o same_o place_n have_v these_o word_n verbum_fw-la graecum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d significat_fw-la caluin_n caluin_n aliquid_fw-la manibus_fw-la sublatis_fw-la discernere_fw-la qualiter_fw-la in_o commitijs_fw-la populi_fw-la fieri_fw-la solet_fw-la scriptores_fw-la tamen_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la nomen_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d alio_fw-la sensu_fw-la usurpant_fw-la nempè_fw-la pro_fw-la solenni_fw-la ordinationis_fw-la ritu_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o scripture_n voco_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositio_fw-la the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o determine_v some_o thing_n by_o hold_v up_o of_o hand_n according_a as_o it_o be_v usual_a in_o the_o assembly_n and_o election_n of_o the_o people_n notwithstanding_o the_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n use_v this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o other_o sense_n for_o the_o solemn_a manner_n of_o order_v which_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v call_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n and_o this_o say_n of_o m._n caluine_n have_v marlorat_n also_o write_v in_o his_o collection_n as_o allow_v the_o same_o the_o same_o m._n caluine_n instit_fw-la cap._n 8._o sect._n 65._o sequitur_fw-la iam_fw-la ut_fw-la tractemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o follow_v now_o that_o we_o shall_v entreat_v of_o the_o manner_n whereby_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v place_v in_o their_o office_n this_o the_o latiniste_n call_v order_n or_o consecration_n the_o grecian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o sometime_o also_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d although_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v proper_o call_v that_o kind_n of_o election_n wherein_o the_o voice_n be_v signify_v by_o lift_v up_o of_o hand_n gualther_n gualther_n likewise_o gualther_n upon_o the_o fourtéenth_n of_o the_o act_n deinde_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mentionem_fw-la facit_fw-la lucas_n etc._n etc._n furthermore_o luke_n make_v mention_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o which_o not_o only_o the_o gather_n of_o voice_n but_o also_o the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n which_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o consecration_n may_v be_v signify_v and_o sure_o the_o latter_a seem_v most_o conveniente_a for_o it_o be_v not_o likely_a that_o the_o apostle_n will_v depart_v from_o that_o order_n which_o we_o see_v to_o have_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o election_n of_o mathias_n and_o permit_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n which_o in_o voice_n oftentimes_o come_v to_o pass_v see_v that_o they_o stir_v up_o the_o whole_a church_n to_o prayer_n and_o fast_v thus_o than_o you_o see_v that_o the_o matter_n be_v nothing_o so_o strange_a as_o you_o make_v it_o for_o all_o these_o learned_a writer_n affirm_v as_o much_o touch_v the_o acceptation_n of_o this_o word_n as_o i_o have_v do_v and_o if_o you_o will_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o allege_v the_o canon_n attribute_v to_o the_o apostle_n as_o you_o do_v i_o will_v find_v it_o there_o take_v in_o thesame_a signification_n also_o for_o in_o 2._o can._n apost_n 1._o &_o 2._o the_o first_o canon_n it_o be_v thus_o write_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v a_o bishop_n be_v ordain_v of_o two_o or_o three_o bishop_n and_o in_o the_o second_o can._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v a_o minister_n be_v ordain_v of_o one_o bishop_n you_o can_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o old_a translation_n and_o commentary_n also_o make_v only_a mention_n of_o elect_v and_o ordain_v and_o not_o of_o elect_v or_o ordain_v by_o voice_n oecumenius_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o place_n do_v affirm_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v create_v and_o ordain_v they_o so_o do_v other_o likewise_o and_o howesoever_o the_o word_n in_o chrysostome_n be_v translate_v yet_o chrysostome_n give_v no_o signification_n in_o his_o act._n chaysost_n in_o 14._o in_o act._n commentary_n that_o his_o meaning_n be_v so_o but_o hom._n 14_o in_o act._n he_o write_v thus_o vide_fw-la quomodò_fw-la scriptor_n etc._n etc._n mark_v how_o the_o writer_n be_v not_o superfluous_a for_o he_o do_v not_o declare_v how_o but_o he_o simple_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v ordain_v by_o prayer_n for_o this_o in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ordinatio_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v ordain_v the_o hand_n be_v lay_v upon_o the_o man_n but_o god_n work_v the_o whole_a and_o it_o be_v his_o hand_n that_o touch_v the_o head_n of_o he_o that_o be_v ordain_v if_o he_o be_v ordeyneda_n hierome_n hierome_n as_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v hierome_n also_o write_v upon_o the._n 58._o of_o esaie_n say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v usuallye_o take_v for_o the_o ordain_v of_o clerk_n by_o prayer_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o many_o do_v translate_v it_o as_o you_o say_v yet_o be_v it_o doubtful_a in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d diverse_a of_o they_o whether_o they_o mean_v the_o voice_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o of_o the_o minister_n or_o of_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n only_o m._n bullinger_n say_v that_o he_o be_v elect_v by_o the_o common_a suffrage_n of_o the_o people_n qui_fw-la optimorum_fw-la testimonio_fw-la probatus_fw-la est_fw-la which_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o best_a and_o the_o law_n say_v in_o publico_fw-la negotio_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la non_fw-la apponit_fw-la cum_fw-la possit_fw-la consentire_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la he_o be_v think_v to_o consent_v in_o a_o public_a business_n which_o do_v not_o withstand_v when_o he_o may_v i_o think_v your_o complaint_n for_o lack_v of_o book_n be_v without_o cause_n &_o very_o unlykely_a it_o be_v to_o be_v true_a all_o thing_n considere_v how_o so_o ever_o m._n caluine_n or_o m._n bullinger_n do_v take_v that_o word_n themselves_o yet_o have_v they_o affirm_v as_o much_o of_o the_o other_o signification_n as_o i_o have_v do_v and_o therefore_o the_o more_o like_a to_o be_v true_a neither_o have_v you_o as_o yet_o allege_v any_o thing_n that_o can_v prove_v the_o contrary_n you_o may_v not_o teach_v the_o holy_a ghost_n how_o to_o speak_v neither_o must_v you_o in_o such_o matter_n use_v so_o light_a and_o vain_a reason_n neither_o m._n bullinger_n nor_o m._n caluine_n disallow_v that_o signification_n or_o go_v about_o to_o confute_v it_o and_o you_o yourself_o confess_v that_o the_o greek_a ecclesiastical_a writer_n have_v semetyme_o use_v it_o so_o as_o in_o deed_n they_o common_o do_v which_o may_v easy_o be_v understand_v by_o that_o that_o i_o have_v hitherto_o speak_v he_o that_o lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o a_o man_n head_n do_v lyfte_v they_o up_o be_v fore_o he_o can_v lay_v they_o on_o and_o therefore_o you_o do_v but_o trifle_v in_o make_v so_o much_o a_o do_v about_o hold_v up_o and_o lay_v down_o there_o be_v other_o weorde_n i_o grant_v to_o express_v this_o ceremony_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n and_o i_o know_v that_o luke_n and_o paul_n do_v use_v a_o other_o word_n for_o the_o same_o and_o the_o septuagint_n in_o like_o manner_n but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o purpose_n what_o can_v you_o conclude_v hereof_o be_v this_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v that_o this_o word_n therefore_o in_o this_o place_n may_v not_o signify_v the_o same_o be_v these_o bare_a conjecture_n sufficient_a to_o improve_v so_o many_o learned_a man_n judgement_n i_o do_v not_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v signify_v only_o the_o bare_a ceremony_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n but_o the_o whole_a solemnity_n of_o create_a minister_n which_o be_v also_o sometime_o signify_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o namely_o 1._o ti._n 9_o but_o saint_n luke_n when_o he_o use_v in_o other_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o do_v use_v it_o in_o the_o bare_a signification_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n and_o not_o for_o any_o other_o rite_n or_o solemnity_n as_o he_o do_v this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o this_o place_n and_o therefore_o you_o do_v petere_fw-la principium_fw-la when_o you_o frame_v your_o proof_n as_o though_o it_o be_v affirm_v or_o grant_v that_o saint_n luke_n by_o this_o word_n shall_v mean_v only_o the_o bare_a ceremony_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n himself_o t._n c._n bring_v a_o
maxentius_n and_o licinius_n do_v then_o persecute_v persecution_n in_o constantine_n time_n and_o therefore_o you_o see_v you_o be_v great_o deceyve_v in_o your_o account_n now_o if_o it_o be_v as_o lawful_a for_o we_o to_o use_v m._n caluins_n authority_n which_o both_o by_o example_n and_o write_n have_v always_o defend_v our_o cause_n as_o it_o be_v for_o you_o to_o wring_v he_o and_o his_o word_n to_o thing_n which_o he_o never_o inent_a and_o the_o contrary_a whereof_o he_o continual_o practise_v than_o this_o authority_n of_o you_o be_v dash_v for_o m._n caluine_n say_v whereas_o it_o be_v say_v in_o that_o council_n that_o the_o election_n shall_v not_o be_v permit_v to_o the_o people_n it_o mean_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o they_o shall_v make_v no_o election_n without_o have_v 16._o upon_o the_o acts._n 16._o some_o minister_n or_o man_n of_o judgement_n to_o direct_v they_o in_o their_o election_n and_o to_o gather_v their_o voice_n and_o provide_v that_o nothing_o be_v do_v tumultuous_o even_o as_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v chief_a in_o the_o election_n of_o the_o church_n and_o even_o the_o same_o order_n will_v we_o have_v keep_v in_o election_n continual_o for_o avoid_v of_o confusion_n for_o as_o we_o will_v have_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n preserve_v which_o christ_n have_v buy_v so_o dear_o from_o all_o tyranny_n so_o do_v we_o again_o condemn_v and_o utter_o abhor_v the_o barbarous_a confusion_n and_o disorder_n io._n whitgifte_n where_o do_v those_o that_o write_v the_o century_n suspect_v that_o canon_n why_o note_v you_o not_o the_o place_n there_o be_v not_o one_o word_n tend_v to_o that_o end_n in_o that_o place_n where_o they_o speak_v of_o this_o council_n neither_o as_n i_o think_v be_v you_o able_a to_o show_v any_o such_o thing_n affirm_v by_o they_o and_o it_o be_v the_o first_o time_n that_o ever_o i_o either_o red_a or_o hear_v it_o doubt_v whether_o this_o be_v a_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n or_o no._n in_o the._n 4._o cent._n col_fw-fr 435._o i_o find_v these_o word_n variant_n ab_fw-la ac_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la mirum_fw-la qua_fw-la veritate_fw-la constitutiones_fw-la concilij_fw-la laodiceni_fw-la quae_fw-la ordinationes_fw-la iudicio_fw-la multitudinis_fw-la fieri_fw-la probibuerunt_fw-la the_o constitution_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n which_o forbid_v 4._o cent._n 4._o the_o ordain_v of_o minister_n to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o multitude_n do_v vary_v from_o this_o custom_n of_o elect_v by_o the_o people_n it_o be_v marvel_v by_o what_o truth_n but_o no_o man_n can_v hereof_o gather_v that_o they_o doubt_v whether_o this_o canon_n be_v a_o bastard_n or_o no._n only_o they_o doubt_v whether_o this_o decree_n be_v make_v according_a to_o the_o truth_n the_o general_a council_n at_o constantinople_n which_o be_v call_v synodus_fw-la 6._o do_v both_o allow_v this_o council_n and_o ratify_v it_o it_o be_v not_o great_o material_a at_o what_o time_n this_o council_n be_v hold_v neither_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o this_o decree_n be_v now_o make_v against_o such_o election_n of_o the_o people_n therefore_o the_o people_n have_v before_o this_o time_n in_o all_o place_n interest_n in_o elect_v of_o minister_n for_o it_o may_v be_v that_o some_o claim_v this_o interest_n and_o move_v the_o people_n to_o contend_v for_o it_o then_o as_o you_o do_v now_o and_o therefore_o the_o synod_n may_v upon_o that_o occasion_n make_v this_o determination_n as_o the_o like_a may_v be_v make_v at_o this_o time_n in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n against_o such_o parish_n as_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o election_n of_o their_o pastor_n as_o you_o before_o affirm_v 3._o page_n 3._o some_o to_o do_v and_o yet_o we_o can_v not_o thereupon_o true_o conclude_v that_o before_o the_o time_n of_o this_o prohibition_n the_o election_n of_o minister_n be_v either_o general_o or_o orderly_o commit_v to_o the_o people_n in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n i_o have_v not_o in_o any_o place_n say_v that_o this_o order_n of_o choose_v the_o minister_n by_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v but_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o during_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n neither_o yet_o that_o they_o can_v claim_v it_o of_o duty_n in_o either_o of_o these_o time_n or_o that_o it_o be_v then_o general_a and_o in_o all_o place_n for_o i_o have_v before_o show_v the_o contrary_n and_o where_o you_o think_v that_o i_o will_v not_o say_v the_o church_n be_v under_o persecution_n in_o constantine_n time_n the_o church_n in_o persecution_n in_o constantine_n time_n time_n though_o it_o be_v not_o material_a yet_o must_v i_o tell_v you_o that_o i_o think_v it_o be_v for_o even_o then_o maxentius_n and_o licinius_n do_v persecute_v and_o continue_v in_o persecute_v by_o the_o space_n of_o 13._o year_n after_o constan._n begin_v his_o reign_n and_o it_o be_v say_v of_o licinius_n that_o he_o kill_v many_o thousand_o of_o christian_n i_o have_v not_o at_o any_o time_n wring_v m._n caluines_n word_n to_o any_o other_o sense_n than_o he_o himself_o have_v write_v they_o if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o make_v it_o knewne_v for_o i_o have_v deal_v plain_o and_o set_v down_o his_o word_n so_o have_v not_o you_o in_o his_o institution_n cap._n 8._o sect._n 63._o thus_o he_o write_v of_o this_o council_n est_fw-la quidem_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la fateor_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o sure_o i_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v laodicea_n caluine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n upon_o great_a reason_n decree_v in_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n that_o the_o election_n shall_v not_o be_v permit_v to_o the_o multitude_n for_o it_o scarce_o at_o any_o time_n happen_v that_o so_o many_o head_n shall_v with_o one_o consent_n determine_v any_o thing_n and_o that_o say_v be_v almost_o true_a that_o the_o unstable_a multitude_n be_v divide_v into_o contrary_a faction_n etc._n etc._n then_o do_v he_o tell_v what_o order_n be_v observe_v in_o election_n 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11._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 37._o sect._n 3_o but_o if_o counsel_n be_v of_o so_o great_a authority_n to_o decide_v this_o controversy_n they_o the_o most_o famous_a council_n of_o nice_a will_v strike_v a_o great_a stroke_n with_o you_o which_o in_o a_o epistl_n that_o it_o write_v unto_o the_o church_n of_o egypt_n as_o theodoret_n make_v mention_v speak_v thus_o it_o be_v meet_v that_o people_n that_o this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o clearg_n not_o of_o the_o people_n you_o shall_v have_v power_n both_o to_o choose_v any_o man_n and_o to_o give_v their_o name_n which_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v among_o the_o clergy_n and_o to_o do_v all_o thing_n absolute_o according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o it_o happen_v any_o to_o dye_v in_o the_o church_n then_o that_o those_o which_o be_v last_o take_v to_o be_v promote_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o he_o that_o be_v
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as_o it_o shall_v be_v by_o better_a reason_n prove_v than_o you_o 8._o tract_n 8._o be_v able_a to_o show_v any_o to_o the_o contrary_a this_o that_o you_o speak_v of_o his_o euangelistship_n and_o of_o his_o superiority_n in_o that_o respect_n be_v only_o speak_v without_o reason_n or_o authority_n but_o you_o shall_v have_v store_n of_o both_o to_o the_o contrary_n god_n will_v when_o i_o come_v to_o that_o place_n i_o be_o not_o so_o lavishe_a of_o my_o witness_n as_o you_o be_v of_o scornful_a and_o unséemely_a taunt_n and_o speech_n both_o ambrose_n and_o chrysost._n do_v not_o say_v that_o paul_n here_o warn_v timothy_n only_o to_o be_v circumspect_a but_o to_o be_v circumspect_a in_o appoint_v of_o minister_n and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o so_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o i_o shall_v hear_v of_o it_o the_o word_n be_v speak_v to_o timothy_n in_o respect_n that_o he_o be_v bishop_n neither_o have_v the_o apostle_n give_v any_o such_o like_a admonition_n to_o any_o church_n in_o 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but_o of_o bishop_n for_o certain_o priest_n do_v not_o ordain_v he_o and_o oecolam_n oecolampad_n oecolampad_n upon_o the_o same_o word_n presbyteros_fw-la dicit_fw-la episcopos_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la episcopum_fw-la ordinabant_fw-la he_o call_v bishop_n priest_n for_o priest_n do_v not_o ordain_v a_o bishop_n whereby_o it_o plain_o appear_v that_o these_o ancient_a father_n think_v this_o precept_n manus_fw-la citò_fw-la ne_fw-la cvi_fw-la imponas_fw-la lay_v thy_o hand_n sudden_o on_o no_o man_n to_o be_v give_v only_o to_o timothy_n in_o the_o respect_n that_o he_o be_v bishop_n and_o therefore_o also_o to_o apperteyne_a unto_o bishop_n only_o to_o ordain_v minister_n hierome_n upon_o that_o place_n to_o titus_n say_v audiant_fw-la episcopi_n qui_fw-la habent_fw-la constituendi_fw-la hierome_n hierome_n presbyteros_fw-la per_fw-la urbes_fw-la singulas_fw-la potestatem_fw-la sub_fw-la quali_fw-la lege_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la potestatis_fw-la ordo_fw-la 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riches_n no_o impediment_n to_o godly_a man_n wherein_o our_o bishop_n may_v be_v compare_v with_o the_o old_a bishop_n his_o duty_n and_o in_o such_o external_a thing_n the_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n and_o state_n of_o the_o country_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v let_v our_o bishop_n be_v compare_v with_o they_o in_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n in_o honesty_n of_o life_n in_o diligent_a walk_n in_o their_o vocation_n and_o in_o knowledge_n i_o speak_v of_o the_o most_o in_o both_o age_n and_o i_o think_v the_o difference_n will_v not_o be_v so_o great_a but_o that_o they_o may_v both_o know_v one_o another_o and_o very_o well_o agree_v among_o themselves_o this_o only_o except_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v now_o much_o more_o pure_o profess_v by_o our_o bishop_n than_o it_o be_v at_o that_o time_n by_o they_o for_o both_o the_o counsel_n be_v in_o sundry_a point_n very_o corrupt_a chap._n 5._o the._n 18._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 97._o sect._n 2._o in_o the_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lord_n as_o likewise_o in_o france_n they_o call_v every_o one_o that_o be_v a_o gentleman_n or_o have_v any_o honest_a place_n monsieur_fw-fr and_o so_o they_o will_v say_v also_o save_v your_o honour_n now_o we_o know_v this_o word_n lord_n in_o our_o country_n be_v use_v otherwise_o to_o note_v some_o great_a personage_n either_o by_o reason_n of_o birth_n or_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o high_a dignity_n in_o the_o common_a wealth_n which_o he_o occupi_v and_o therefore_o those_o title_n although_o they_o be_v somewhat_o excessive_a yet_o be_v they_o nothing_o so_o swell_a and_o stately_a as_o we_o be_v io._n whitgifte_n the_o wise_a man_n say_v let_v not_o thy_o own_o mouth_n praise_v thou_o but_o you_o for_o lack_v of_o 27._o pro._n 27._o
speak_v to_o maintain_v any_o excessive_a or_o outrageous_a pomp_n but_o i_o speak_v of_o the_o egree_n in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a state_n and_o of_o the_o manner_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o person_n as_o they_o be_v now_o according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o custom_n allow_v in_o this_o church_n of_o england_n chap._n 5._o the._n 25._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 98._o sect._n 3_o and_o thus_o will_v i_o make_v a_o end_n leave_v to_o the_o consideration_n and_o indifferent_a weigh_v of_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n how_o true_a it_o be_v that_o i_o have_v before_o propound_v that_o our_o archbishop_n metropolitanes_n archdeacon_n bishop_n have_v beside_o the_o name_n almost_o nothing_o common_a 〈◊〉_d those_o which_o have_v be_v in_o ld_a time_n before_o the_o sun_n of_o the_o gospel_n begin_v to_o be_v marvellous_o darken_v by_o the_o stink_a mist_n which_o the_o devil_n send_v forth_o out_o of_o the_o bottomless_a pit_n to_o blind_a the_o eye_n of_o man_n that_o they_o shall_v 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of_o other_o man_n behaviour_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n negligent_a and_o forgetful_a of_o their_o own_o duty_n so_o that_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o every_o man_n to_o examine_v himself_o and_o not_o so_o necessary_a for_o one_o man_n to_o examine_v another_o but_o what_o i_o think_v of_o this_o kind_n of_o examine_v by_o other_o i_o have_v declare_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n chap._n 1._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 130._o sect._n 2._o then_o he_o say_v he_o be_v sure_a there_o be_v neither_o commandment_n nor_o example_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n in_o apply_v a_o place_n of_o scripture_n fond_o apply_v the_o second_o book_n of_o the_o chronicle_n he_o may_v have_v read_v that_o the_o levite_n be_v there_o command_v 35_o 2._o chro._n 35_o to_o prepare_v the_o people_n unto_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o passover_n in_o place_n whereof_o we_o have_v the_o lord_n supper_n now_o examination_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o preparation_n it_o follow_v 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prove_v and_o we_o can_v forbid_v no_o man_n from_o the_o communion_n although_o this_o prohibition_n be_v not_o mortal_a but_o medicinable_a except_o he_o either_o willing_o confess_v it_o or_o be_v accuse_v and_o convict_v either_o in_o some_o secular_a or_o ecclesiastical_a court_n for_o who_o dare_v take_v unto_o himself_o to_o be_v both_o accuser_n and_o judge_n and_o this_o be_v my_o judgement_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o bishop_n in_o excommunicate_v the_o abuse_v creep_v into_o this_o church_n in_o the_o execute_n of_o it_o i_o do_v not_o defend_v as_o it_o be_v manyfeste_a in_o my_o answer_n but_o wish_v they_o by_o due_a order_n and_o authority_n with_o speed_n reform_v chap._n 1._o the._n 19_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o lin._n 7._o and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v here_o that_o both_o in_o this_o part_n of_o the_o discipline_n and_o also_o in_o all_o other_o part_n of_o it_o as_o i_o have_v show_v as_o in_o hard_a and_o difficulter_v cause_n thing_n be_v refer_v 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of_o a_o new_a popedom_n have_v you_o show_v this_o confuse_a order_n to_o have_v be_v in_o y_z e_o apostles_n time_n or_o in_o y_z e_z primitive_a church_n apostle_n t._n c._n ascribe_v his_o own_o devise_n to_o the_o apostle_n where_o have_v you_o show_v it_o or_o when_o will_v you_o prove_v it_o synod_n there_o be_v indeed_o and_o necessary_a it_o be_v that_o when_o occasion_n serve_v they_o shall_v be_v but_o your_o signiory_n in_o every_o town_n or_o parish_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n never_o be_v neither_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o without_o confusion_n it_o shall_v be_v as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v but_o what_o audacity_n be_v this_o to_o ascribe_v a_o order_n invent_v by_o yourself_o upon_o the_o which_o scarce_o three_o of_o you_o do_v agree_v if_o you_o be_v well_o examine_v and_o in_o the_o which_o yourself_o or_o ever_o it_o be_v long_o will_v espy_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v alter_v unto_o the_o apostle_n of_o bishops_n court_n and_o their_o officer_n chap._n 2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 1_o these_o thing_n stand_v in_o this_o sort_n all_o those_o court_n of_o bishop_n and_o archbyshop_n must_v needs_o fall_v which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n erect_v against_o this_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n of_o eldership_n as_o the_o court_n of_o faculty_n and_o those_o which_o be_v hold_v by_o chancellor_n commissary_n officialls_n and_o such_o like_a the_o describe_v of_o the_o corruption_n whereof_o will_v require_v a_o whole_a book_n of_o which_o i_o will_v note_v the_o principal_a head_n and_o sum_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o not_o these_o court_v only_o but_o all_o the_o court_n in_o england_n will_v be_v devour_v up_o of_o your_o signiory_n yea_o each_o the_o prince_n regal_a authority_n as_o may_v appear_v partly_o by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o and_o partly_o by_o that_o which_o shall_v follow_v hereafter_o for_o what_o jurisdiction_n will_v not_o your_o signiory_n usurp_v what_o matter_n will_v it_o not_o presume_v to_o determine_v what_o degree_n of_o person_n will_v it_o not_o tread_v under_o foot_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o you_o say_v of_o these_o court_n chap._n 2._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 2._o first_o for_o that_o they_o enter_v into_o a_o office_n which_o perteyn_v not_o unto_o they_o but_o to_o every_o particular_a church_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o eldership_n and_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o although_o they_o shall_v do_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o be_v good_a lawful_a and_o godly_a yet_o can_v they_o not_o approve_v their_o labour_n unto_o man_n much_o less_o to_o god_n put_v their_o sickle_n in_o another_o man_n harvest_n for_o neither_o by_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v that_o apperteyne_a unto_o they_o neither_o by_o m._n doctor_n own_o judgement_n if_o his_o yea_o were_z yea_o and_o his_o nay_o nay_o consider_v that_o he_o say_v before_o that_o this_o jurisdiction_n belong_v to_o the_o 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of_o discipline_n that_o they_o use_v or_o aught_o to_o use_v only_o upon_o a_o extremity_n concern_v the_o which_o discipline_n and_o the_o minister_n thereof_o i_o be_o of_o the_o self_n same_o same_o judgement_n that_o i_o be_v before_o and_o my_o yea_o be_v yea_o 5._o gualther_n in_o .1_o â–ª_o cor._n 5._o and_o my_o nay_o be_v nay_o and_o yet_o it_o i_o will_v tell_v you_o what_o i_o have_v read_v since_o in_o m_n gualters_n commentary_n upon_o the._n 1._o cor._n 5._o if_o any_o will_v appoint_v some_o kind_n of_o separation_n or_o shut_v out_o which_o shall_v be_v execute_v by_o a_o lawful_a magistrate_n and_o shall_v rather_o be_v civil_a excommunication_n a_o kind_n of_o civil_a excommunication_n than_o ecclesiastical_a we_o will_v not_o be_v against_o they_o for_o the_o law_n of_o our_o city_n also_o do_v punish_v they_o with_o excommunication_n
which_o be_v very_o negligent_a in_o hear_v sermon_n and_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o furthermore_o which_o do_v offend_v the_o church_n with_o their_o wicked_a life_n for_o such_o if_o they_o live_v in_o the_o city_n they_o be_v throw_v out_o of_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o ward_n or_o company_n so_o that_o they_o can_v buy_v and_o sell_v with_o no_o man_n neither_o be_v they_o capable_a of_o any_o honour_n or_o public_a office_n but_o if_o they_o dwell_v in_o the_o country_n they_o be_v keep_v from_o the_o use_n of_o the_o common_a pastnre_n and_o wood_n and_o this_o way_n be_v most_o meet_a for_o we_o let_v other_o city_n and_o country_n do_v that_o which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v most_o profitable_a for_o their_o people_n for_o so_o much_o as_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o same_o form_n of_o discipline_n can_v be_v appoint_v and_o observe_v in_o all_o place_n i_o wish_v the_o other_o remove_v from_o those_o court_n and_o this_o in_o the_o place_n of_o it_o but_o that_o bishop_n may_v lawful_o use_v the_o true_a ecclesiastical_a excommunication_n i_o have_v prove_v before_o deny_v it_o you_o as_o oft_o as_o you_o will_v you_o can_v show_v no_o sound_a reason_n or_o ground_n of_o your_o denial_n chap._n 2._o the_o third_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 3_o and_o other_o thing_n be_v that_o in_o these_o court_n which_o they_o call_v spiritual_a they_o take_v the_o knowledge_n of_o matter_n which_o be_v eere_o civil_a thereby_o not_o only_o pervert_v the_o order_n which_o god_n have_v appoint_v in_o sever_a the_o civil_a cause_n from_o y_z e_z ecclesiastical_a but_o untruth_n but_o a_o manifest_a untruth_n justle_a also_o with_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o thrust_v he_o from_o the_o jurisdiction_n which_o appertain_v unto_o he_o as_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o contract_n of_o marriage_n of_o divorce_n of_o will_n and_o testament_n with_o diverse_a other_o such_o like_a thing_n for_o although_o it_o apperteme_v to_o the_o 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