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A19951	An oration made on the part of the Lordes spirituall in the chamber of the Third Estate (or communality) of France, vpon the oath (pretended of allegiance) exhibited in the late Generall Assembly of the three Estates of that kingdome: by the Lord Cardinall of Peron, arch-bishop of Sens, primate of Gaule and Germany, Great Almenour of France &c. Translated into English, according to the French copy, lately printed at Paris, by Antoine Estiene. Whereunto is adioyned a preface, by the translatour.; Harangue faicte de la part de la chambre ecclésiastique en celle du Tiers-estat sur l'article du serment. English.	Du Perron, Jacques Davy, 1556-1618.	1616 (1616)	STC 6384; ESTC S116663	77,855	154

who seeth not that it is a Sacriledge that hath at all times drawne the Ire Wrath and Vengeance of God aswell vpon Kinges and Princes as vpon particuler Persons who haue attempted the same Euery one knoweth that Saul (a) 1. Reg. 13 15. was deposed from the right of his Royalty and died a miserable death because he would take vpon him the office of a Sacrificer We know that Oza (b) ● Reg. 6. was punished with a sudaine death for putting his hand to the Arke that seemed to sway to the one side We know that King (c) 2. Paralip 26. Ozias was stroken with leprosy and excluded from the administration and gouernment of his Kingdome for taking the Censar into his hand And holy Writ saith (d) Malach 26. The lippes of the Priest shall keepe knowledge and the Law they shall require of his mouth because he is the Angell of the lord of Hostes. And the Prophet Esay (e) Esay 54. saith to the Church Euery tongue resisting thee in iudgment thou shalt iudge And againe (f) Idem 60. The King shall walk in thy light the people in the brightnes of thy rising And King Iosaphat distinguisheth the boundes of the one and the others Iur●diction in these wordes (g) 2. Paral●p 19. Amarias saith he the Priest and your Bishop shal be chiefe in these thinges that appertayne to God and Zabadias the sonne of Ismael who is the Prince in the house of Iuda shal be ouer those workes which perteyne to the Kinges office And our Sauiour (h) Matth. 19. saith himselfe VVhosoeuer shall not heare the Church let him be vnto thee as an Ethnick and a Publican And S. Paul speaking vnto Pastors (i) Act. 20. saith The Holy Ghost hath placed you Bishops to rule the Church of God which he hath purchased with his owne bloud And speaking to the Laytie he saith (a) Heb. 3. Obey your Prelates for they watch hauing to render an accompt of your soules And againe (b) Heb. 5. Neither doth any man take the honour to himselfe but he that is called of God as Aaron And therefore we see that the first Christian Emperours were euerso respectiue and Religious as they would neuer make themselues Iudges neither of matters of faith nor of matters of the Churches discipline nor of the Bishops causes among themselues for feare of violating the rectitude that Gods Ministers ought to bring to Ecclesiasticall Iudgments by the feare of temporall Iurisdictions And that if they published any lawes in such cases it euer was after the Bishops had passed them and to further the temporall execution of the decisions formerly made by Ecclesiastique authority It is not lawfull forme saith (c) Ruff. l. 10. Eccles h●st c. 2. Constantine the Great who am placed ouer temporalities to censure and iudge the causes of Bishops And the Emperour Valentinian (d) Sozom. l. 6. c. 7. the first said It is not lawfull for me who am of the Laitie to arrogate to my selfe the curiosity of searching into these matters And the Emperour Theodosius the second (e) Epist ad Sinod● Ephes writing to the Councell of Ephesus sayth It is not lawfull for him who is not of the ranke of Bishops to intermeddle himself with the decision of the affaires of the Church And the most glorious and victorious of all our Kinges which was Charlemaine confirming the answere that Censtantine made saith (f) Carol. m●g● l. 6. cap. 301. The Emperour Constantine answered vpon the accusations of the Bishops To me who am placed ouer temporalities it is not lawfull to iudge the Bishops causes And confirming that which the Emperour Valentinian had said he vsed these words (a) Ibid. Your busines is aboue vs and therefore iudge among your selues of your owne causes For you are aboue vs. And when on the contrary the hereticall Emperours would take vpon them to meddle with Ecclesiasticall iudgmentes the holy Fathers resisted them contradicted them with all manner of constancy We are not permitted said Hosius to the Emperour (b) Epist ad Const apud Athā in ep ad solit vit agent Constance to hold the Empire on earth nor to You to lay hand on the Censar and to vsurpe the authority of Religion And S. Athanasius sayth (c) Athan. epist ad solit vitam agen When was it euer heard in the memory of man that the iudgments of the Church tooke their force from the Emperour And againe (d) Ibidem He treateth not of matters of the Roman Cōmon wealth where there may be credit giuen to you as to an Emperour but he speaketh of a Bishop And a little after (e) Ibidem Who is he who seeing an Emperour occupying the chiefest place in matters of the Church would not iudge that it were the abomination of the desolatiō fortould by Daniel And Gregory Nazianzen (f) Greg. Naz. orat adcities ti percuis Princip irascent saith Will you heare a free word which is That the law of Iesus Christ subiecteth you to my Iurisdiction to my tribunal For we are Emperours also namly in an Empire greater and perfecter then yours And S. Ambrose (g) Ambr. ep 32. ad Imper. Valent innior saith Who maketh any doubt if we regard the order of the Scripture or the antiquity of the Church but that the Bishops in causes of faith haue a custome to iudge of Christian Emperours And againe Your Father said It is not for me to iudge betweene Bishops And your Clemency saith It apperteineth to me to iudge And S. Martin the renowned ornament of the Gaules saith (h) Apud Seuer Sulpit l. 2. sacrae hist It is an impiety new and not heard of before that a secular Iudge should iudge of matters of the Church And against this it helpeth not to alleage that the Emperour Constantine did call himselfe (a) Euseb l. 4. de vit Constant cap. 24. a Bishop out of the Church For Constantine by that meant nothing lesse then to say that he had iurisdiction and superintendency ouer the externall forme and discipline of the Church Els wherfore should he haue desired with so great instance the authority of the Councell of Nice for the decision of the day of Easter But he meant only to say that what the Bishops did by their preachings among the Christians within the Church that did he out of the Church by his Edictes against the Infidells He ordayned sayth ●usebius by his Edictes and gaue order to the Gouernours of the Pagans to cause them to keep the Sunday also aswell as the Christians and to honour the dayes of the Martyrs and the feastes appointed in the Churches And therof it came that hauing one day feasted some Bishops he called himselfe Bishop in their presence saying vnto them God hath placed you Bishops within the Church and me a Bishop out of the Church But me thinkes I heare You already say that

which this vertue hath shined and beene flourishing it is this in which we liue I will not speake of the glory of the Druides or ancient Sacrificers in whose handes the Gauls had put the execution of iustice with intent to make it sacred and venerable to the people by the quality of the persons that should exercise it I omit the care and zeale our Kinges did beare to the practise of Iustice themselues becomming ministers and distributers not only in their first and second race but likewise in the third To say nothing of the splendour of our Courtes of Parlament and in particuler of this great and high Parlament of Paris wherof the reputation hath beene such amongst forraine Princes that they themselues often made choyce of it for their iudge and arbitrator in causes of greatest importance It shall suffice me to affirme of our Nation that it hath euer beene so famous and florished in the exercise of this vertue that the very womē amongst the Gauls were hertofore esteemed better able to administer Iustice then the men of al other Prouinces For when Hannibal receaued and incorporated the Gauls in his Army in his passage to the Conqest of Italy it was agreed on that if at any tyme there should arise any difference betweene the two Nations if the Carthaginians were plaintifs the verdict should belong to the Tribunall of the Carthaginians resident in Spaine and if the Gauls found themselus agrieued the decision was referred to the Dames of France And therefore Gentlemen our Kinges hauing assigned the keeping and disposing of this precious treasure in the hands and custody of your Order it is not without cause that we honour and respect you not only as ministers and interpreters of Themis but as such her interpreters in the chiefest Tribunall she hath vpon earth And now Gentlemen this Themis this Dicas this ●lustice it selfe which teacheth you to render to euery one his due inspired you likewise from the first meeting of the States to render aboue al other thinges what you owe to God to his Religion and to his Ministers making you therby to imitate the example of those great Law-giuers and Sages the Romans your Predecessours who carried so great respect to Diuine thinges that although the Religion was false yet notwithstanding because in this false Religion they pretended as S. Augustine sayth to honour the true Deity it pleased the same God to recompence their zeale with temporall graces and benedictions wherby they raysed their Empire aboue the cloudes For then you gaue vs testimony by di●ers Embassages that you held vs for your parents as the Pastours and Directours of your soules and such as liued in continuall watchfulnes to render accompt of them to Almighty God For the which we haue of tentimes giuen you many and harty thankes But that which did most assure vs that you practised effectually what you gaue testimony of by wordes was the last occasion which presented it selfe For vpon the newes which was sent vnto vs of a certain article touching the security of Kinges intituled a Fund a mentall Law proposed resolued amongst your selues where there was matter of Religion mixt with interest of state you were contented to be perswaded by the learned and eloquent informations deliuered you in our names by the Archbishop of Aix and the Lord Bishop of Mumpelier to communicate the matter with vs and ioyntly to receaue our opinion therof For this cause Gentlemen the Ecclesiasticall assembly hath chosen sent me vnto you First to giue you thankes for the honour you pleased to do them heerin then to let you vnderstand their opinion concerning as wel the substance as circumstāces of your Article And they haue especially giuen me in charge aboue all other thinges to render you infinite thankes and prayse your zeale in prouiding so carefully for the security of the life and person of our Kinges withall protesting that they all conspire together with you in this thought and extraordinary feeling of yours and that from the bottome of their hartes and soules For they lament and shall neuer cease mourning with teares of bloud the tragicall and detestable Assassinats which haue wronged and defiled the memory of this age with two so horrible parricides and do find in themselues so much greater obligation to haue their hartes pierced with this grief by how much more they must acknowledge themselues tyed with strayter bandes then any other Orders to mayntayne and stand affected to the Sacred Person of our Kinges I meane not to enlarge my selfe for the present in telling you how God hath put into their handes the light of his word to lighten other orders and how the Clergie must march formost and direct others by doctrine and example in seruing well and faithfully those whome God hath placed ouer his people Only thus much out of meere humane considerations There is no profession so straitly bound in all fidelity and loyalty to our Princes as the state Ecclesiasticall For other states come to offices honours and dignities of the realme some of them as the Gentelmen Nobility at the dearest rate of all other with losse of their bloud and perill of their liues others besides their merit by contribution of some part of their goodes and commodities But as for vs we atteyne them by the only grace and fauour of our Kinges without hazard or imployment of ought either of life goods or honours Neither by any other meanes beeing as we are naked and vnarmed can we enioy our quiet or commodities but vnder the shaddow of the peaceable and prosperous affaires of the King being otherwise exposed as a prey to all sortes of wronges and outrages And therefore what man of sound iudgment can liue in doubt but that we haue more interest then any other in his conseruation in whose life as within some fatall brand all our liues and fortunes are comprized Wee therefore alike ioyne issue with you in this your zeale and feruency of passion and do alike condemne nay more if possible may be the perfidious butchery of those monsters which dare aduenture on Sacred personages of Kinges But with all desiring you to enter into consideration that as the only lawes sufficient to restaine those who set at naught their liues are the Ecclesiasticall which curbe those spirits that contemne death with the apprehension of those paynes after death So must we carefully take heed not to insert any thing into those lawes but that which is held for certaine and vndoubted by the whole Church for feare of disabling the authority of that which is certaine infallible by mixture of that which is doubtfull and in contention For experience hath taught vs too well that humane lawes only and apprehension of temporall punishment can neuer serue for sufficient remedy to such euills as proceed from a peruerse and corrupted imagination of Religion We must haue therefore lawes of conscience such as work on our soules and keep

Mahometisme or any other detestable in fidelity That then this Prince may be declared fallen from his right as culpable of felony towardes him to whome he hath made the oath of his Realme that is to Christ and his subiects may be absolued in cōscience both at the spirituall and Ecclesiasticall Tribunall from the oath of allegiance they haue made vnto him And that in this case it belongs to the authority of the Church resident either in her head the Pope or in her body a Councell to publish this declaration And not only all the other partes of the Catholike Church but likewise all the Doctors who liued in France from the first setting vp of schooles of Diuinity amongst them haue held the affirmatiue opinion that in the case of hereticall or infidell Princes and such as persecute Christianity or Catholike Religion their subiects may be absolued from their oath of allegiance By meanes wherof though the contrary doctrine were the truest yet notwithstanding all the other partes of the Church being against it you cannot hould it for more then problematical in matter of faith I call that doctrine problematicall in matter of faith which we are not bound to belieue by necessity of faith and the contradictory therof doth not binde them that belieue it with excommunication and disunion or separation from the community Otherwise you must acknowledge that the communion which you exercise with the other partes of the Church houlding the contrary doctrine yea euen that communion which you conserue with the memory of your predecessours was vnlawfull defiled with heresy and excommunication And indeed those who take vpon them to defend the doctrine of the English Oath which is the patterne of yours VVidring disput de Iuram fidel cap. 3. sect 19. defend it for no other then problematicall Our intention say they is not to affirme the other opinion as repugnant to faith or saluation it being defended and maynteined by so many so great Deuines whome God forbid we should go about to condemne of so great a cryme And therefore to include this clause vnder the same obligation of faith vnder that very degree of excommunication vnder the which we comprehend the condemnation of those which attempt the liues of Princes is to fall into foure manifest Inconueniences which our Chamber hath giuen me in charge to lay before your eies The first is to force mens soules and intangle their consciences in bidding them to belieue and sweare vnder payne of excommunication as doctrine of faith and conformable to the word of God a point of doctrine the contrary wherof is held by all the other partes of the Catholike Church and hath byn euer hitherunto by their owne predecessours The second inconuenience is vtterly to ouerthrow the authority of the Church and to open the gate to all sortes of heresies to giue scope to lay men without direction or warrant either of generall Councell or Ecclesiasticall sentence to vndertake the decision of matters of faith to determine pointes of Controuersy and to pronounce openly what is conformable to the Scripture what is impious and detestable This then we say is to vsurpe the office of Priesthood this is to stretch our hand to the Arke this is to take the Censar for Sacrifice In briefe this is to commit the selfe same outrages for which Gods maledictions haue iustly fallen long since on the vsurpers as wel priuate persons as Kings themselues The third Inconuenience is to throw vs head long into euident and ineuitable schisme For all other Catholike nations houlding this doctrine we cannot declare it to be contrary to holy Writ nor hould it for wicked and detestable but therewithal we must renounce the cōmuniō both of the head and other partes of the Church and therby confesse that the Church for so many ages hath not beene the Church of God but the Synagogue of Sathan not the spouse of Christ but the Diuells strumpet The fourth Inconuenience is not only to make frustrate the remedy which men seeke in this peril of Princes in weakning that which is held for certaine and vndoubted by ioyning it to a thing contradicted but withall insteed of assuring the life and estate of Princes to put in great daunger both the one and the other by meanes of wars and other mischances and disasters which ordinarily schisme drawes after it These are Gentlemen the foure pointes our Company haue giuen me in charge to represent vnto you which I will do my best to dispatch with all possible cleernes and facility if you please to heare me with the like patience you haue hitherto continued which I easily persuade my selfe you will if you set before your eies the importance of the matter I am heare to treate with you which is the greatest at this present in Christendome And besides consider that it is not my selfe whome you heare speake in this Controuersy For it is not I who speake in this cause but the whole body of the Ecclesiasticall Order and all that of the Nobility adioyned vnto it and which haue deputed these twelue Noble men taken from the twelue Gouernementes in the Realme of purpose to giue authority to my wordes with their presence and withall to giue testimony in this present occasion of the selfe same deuotion their predecessours haue euer borne the Church which they haue planted by their Armes and watered with their bloud in the furthest partes of the world And therfore I will no more enlarge my selfe in begging of you fauourable audience and attention only let me intreate you before I enter into the matter to giue me leaue to make these two protestations therby to preuent certaine calumniations The first that when I say those who hould the negatiue part cannot hould it for other then Problematicall I intend not to comprehend by the word Problematicall that which concernes the condemnation of those parricides who vndertake to kill Princes for this I hould for a point of faith and condemne the contrary opinion for hereticall and guilty of all sortes of excommunication and eternall punishment The other that it is contrary to my disposition and full sore against my will that I come to treate of these questions in such a time when our Country is newly come out of many differences and diuisions in State-matters and is yet full of debates in matters of Religion and haue refused this charge many times euen with teares knowing well how I was to imbarke my selfe in a sea full of rockes and perills and to how many harsh contradictions and calumniations I should expose my selfe But the publishing of Copyes of your Article the bruit wherof was spred farre and neere hath hindered vs from keeping it any longer secret and the wound once discouered the discharge of our Office bound vs to seeke a remedy NOvv then Gentlemen concerning the first Inconuenience to lay the foundation of my discourse not on pillars of gold as Pindarus said but on the firme pillars