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A56811 The conformist's third plea for the nonconformists argued from the king's declaration concerning ecclesiastical affairs : grounded upon the approved doctrine and confirmed by the authorities of many eminent fathers and writers of the Church of England / by the author of the two former pleas. Pearse, Edward, 1631-1694. 1682 (1682) Wing P981; ESTC R11263 89,227 94

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build upon another and a new Foundation though by them called old But Protestants agree in the same Foundations of Religion obey the same Civil Government in the same Person and same Fundamental and Civil Laws and yet some are separated for Sacrifice the Lot is cast upon them and great Rewards allowed to any that will do the Work Our Parliaments from 1673 to the last would have prevented this Ruine but for their sakes and their own Parliament is here taken Synecdochically they are now like to suffer Our last Parliaments were chosen with less Expence Debauchery Tumult or Faction than any we have known in our days Some had not been long in the House but they were driven out of their former Prejudices and Prepossessions by the clear and convincing Reasons and Debates of the House They were generally Men of the noblest Estates in their several Counties but acting as if they had nothing private or domestick and applying themselves to the Preservation of the King 's Sacred Person and of the Reformed Protestant Religion to which they are obliged by Obligations of an even lasting Effect Since their Dissolutions they cannot but be sensible how their Proceedings are confured and exposed and many either of them or of such as approved of them are put out of Commission and many that are most disaffected to them are either continued or fill up the Vacancies and these proceed upon contrary Reasons and Motives and run into contrary Methods What they would have composed and healed these do taking the opportunity of a long Vacancy of Parliament discompose with a greater Severity than at any time before And the Sufferings of the Nonconformists do clear the Members of Parliament from being Nonconformists or Fanaticks for if they were they should meet with the like Treatment and Usage and so the Sufferings of the Nonconformists serve as a Vindication of the Parliament from the censure of being such themselves All those noble and worthy Patriots are now the unsatisfied Spectators of an excessive Trouble and Charge if not irrecoverable Ruine of thousands of peaceable Subjects by which the King will never be enriched nor the Church united The inferior Rank are affected according to their differing measures of Reason and Sense of Religion and the publick Good The more Understanding and discerning enquire into the Cause of this Mischief which is the dissent of the Nonconformist's Judgment from some unnecessary and variable Impositions c. when ever the Government plenseth may be taken away without derogation of Power or loss of any Fundamental in Religion either of Belief or Practice or danger to the Government or Peace They cannot but say these matters of Dissention need not be They believe their own Senses they have neither seen nor heard of any Sedition or Tumult or Plot contrived among the Protestant Dissenters They know them to be Men of Abilities Piety Righteousness and Peace and have waded through the deep Waters of many Afflictions without sinking or drowning or overthrowing the Ship in which too many drive a Merchandize bring in Wealth and others fish for Men to save them from the bottomless Pit If they are unacquainted with the Nonconformist Preachers they are acquainted with their Hearers and know their Principles and Conversation and if they are not better they are no worse than other Men and cannot but be grieved that they lie at the Mercy of many that have no Vertue to commend them They that love Godliness and Righteousness in any in whom they believe or hope it is that are glad for the increase of Knowledg or Godliness by what Instrument soever and endeavour to be merciful as their heavenly Father is merciful are not and cannot be pleased with those Proceedings of ruining Men for Conscience These are not so subtile as to lay any great Weight upon the Distinctions which some Men invent to excuse the Severity The more unknowing and unconcern'd are in a maze wondring what kind of People these Nonconformists are what kind of thing this Nonconformity is but they know or hear that the Men are given to pray hear Sermons sing Psalms and other pious Exercises and live if not better yet no worse than many that go to Church And of these many have so much Sense that they think and say surely it is hard to drive honest Men's Cattel seize their Goods break open Houses for doing well And as many as love Ease and the World take their Ease and follow that Religion which is encouraged with Preferment and a Freedom from Charge and Molestation Some Zealots against Nonconformists are incensed against them as against Pharisees that pray to devour all as against seditious Persons and secret Traitors that want nothing but Opportunity as against the Authors of all our Unsettlements and Miseries These are for the King and who is against him These are for the Law as now established and no alteration which is to tie up the Power of the King as much as the Parliament for it is as much his Prerogative to abrogate old Laws when necessary as to make new These are for the Church of England and against all that are against it and what 's that for the Bishops and the Nonconformists never did as much as petition to take them down or diminish their Revenues they are for preaching in Churches and so are Nonconformists if they might for Allegiance to the King so are the Nonconformists for the King's Supremacy so are the Nonconformists for Ceremonies and Orders of the Church here they begin to disagree And for these things can you persecute your Brethren These Zealots are as erroneous for these things as any others are against them The most of our Conforming-Protestant Laicks are bound to bear Offices higher or lower in Cities Towns Hundreds Parishes The superiour Magistrates may forbear to break open Meetings for Religious Exercises or set others on much more to animate the Rabble to pluck down their Meeting-Houses there is no Law for it that we the unskilful in the Laws know or hear of The inferior are under Command but these are meant of only lawful Commands and legal Warrants And here is now a very displeasing Tragedy to be seen Here are Informers very Strangers in the Countries which they plague and molest that swear against some Persons by hear-say whom they do not know and these are the great Ministers of Justice they do little less nay sometimes no less than expect the Justices should take their Information without Examination of them at their time at the very nick when they please and not when the Justice pleaseth These are the Masters of the Justices themselves who must serve them or forfeit 50 l. to them and 50 l. more to him that can get it Some Justices are forward and officious in carrying on this Work of Reformation and Union they issue forth Warrants upon them that meet upon the Parish Officers that are slack some give out Warrants to break open
renounced the Bishop of Rome without any reasonable Cause But let us see wherein our Brethren are to be blamed or do any thing but what our King and Governours may allow the Primitive Bishops of our Reformation being Judges The Religion of our Brethren is Thou shalt Worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve It is the Religion of Christ and not of Anti-christ I reckon it cannot stand with the Prince's Duty to reverse this heavenly Decrce Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God c. with establishing two Religions in one Realm the first authorized by Christ Bishop Bilson of Subjection Part 1. p. 21. Edit 4o. and bequeathed in his Testament to the Church the next invented of Antichrist and flatly repugnant to the Prophetical and Apostolical Scriptures Our Brethren endeavour to keep strictly to the Scripture and Christ as Law-giver Then as the Minister must dispence the Word of Truth be therewith offended and grieved who list so the Magistrate may draw the Sword of Justice to compel and punish such as be blindly led Part 1. pag. 33. and maliciously bent to resist sound Doctrine Who then should be punished Preachers or they or those Officers that trouble them Object But the Magistrate is to be obeyed in all lawful things and every particular Church hath power to ordain Ceremonies so they be not contrary to God's Word Answ No Man disputes the Magistrate's Power in commanding things good and necessary the Doubt is concerning things which are indifferent as some suppose but not indifferent as the Dissenters suppose Of things indifferent hear the Judgment of the same learned Bishop We may not for things indifferent trouble the weak Minds of our Brethren yet this Rule bindeth no Magistrate to remit the Punishment of Error and Infidelity Ibid. Pag. 33. because God hath charged to suffer no kind of Evil unrevenged and this is the greatest whose Voice they must hear whose Will they must obey though they were sure thereby to scandalize never so many both Aliens and Subjects If they are things truly indifferent then Governours may forbear to command them whereas many do rationally scruple the Observation of them and cannot without Sin observe them Condescention and Selfdeial would rid Mens Consciences out of this Strait between the Magistrate's Command and the Dictates of Conscience Object But by their Preaching and separate Meetings they break the Communion of the Church and are guilty of Schism and to tolerate them is to tolerate a Schism Answ This is the great Clamor of the Accusers but let us see wherein Communion of Saints and Churches doth consist and then we shall see what Schism I cannot quote a more learned Doctor of this Church Ibid. Part 2. p. 223 224. or of greater Authority than the same Reverend Bishop Bilson he shall decide this Case It is a most pernicious Fancy to think the Communion of Christ's Church depends upon the Pope's Person or Regiment let them that imagine one Vniversal Soveraign Power over the Church in our days whether one or many observe this Doctrine and that divers Nations and Countries differing by Customs Laws and Manners so they hold one and the same Rule of Faith in the Bond of Peace cannot be parts of the Catholick Church Communicant one with another and perfectly united in Spirit and Truth each to other and fy on your Follies that rack your Creed and rob Christ of his Honour and the Church of all her Comfort and Security whilst you make the Unity of Christ's Members to consist in Obedience to the Bishop of Rome and not in Coherence with the Son of God! The Communion of Saints and near dependance of the Godly each on other and all of their Head standeth not in external Rites Customs and Manners as you would fashion out a Church observing the Pope's Canons but in believing the same Truth tasting of the same Grace resting on the same Hope calling on the same God rejoycing in the same Spirit whereby they be sealed sanctified and preserved against the day of Redemption The Communion of the Catholick Church is not broken by diversity and variety of Rites Customs Laws and Fashions which many Places and Countries have different each from other except they be repugnant to Faith and Good-manners as St. Augustine ad Januarium Irenaeus c. Eusebius l. 5. c. 23. Socrates l. 5. c. 22. Simple Verity is the Band of Unity Jewel Defence p. 460. Praelection de Ecclesiâ Bishop Carlton makes the Unity of the Church to consist in one Head Christ one Body one Spirit one Faith or one Rule of Faith And if Unity consists in Uniformity in the same Form of Prayer Liturgy and Ceremonies there was no such thing as Unity there were as great Schisms in the Apostles days as among our Brethren according to the Judgment of the same learned Bishop Bilson Ibid. fourth part p. 619 620 c. Some of their own might be so vain-glorions as in making their Prayers at the Lord's Table which was then done by Heart and not after any prescribed Order or Form to shew the Gift of Tongues In the publick Service of the Church the Ministers and Elders which were many both Travellers and there Dwellers had every Man his Psalm his Instruction his Tongue Revelation or Interpretation as the Spirit of Grace thought most expedient And other Order in the Divine Service in the Apostolick or Primitive Church we read for certain of none besides the Action of the Lord's Supper which the Apostles and so no doubt all their Churches always used in the end of their publick Meetings but with no set Prayers save only the Lord's Prayer as Gregory confesseth The rest of their Prayers Blessings and Thanks-givings were in every place made by the Gift of the Holy Ghost inspiring such as were set to teach and govern the Church And you have long since their time framed a Liturgy in James's Name Pag. 620. Yet for so much as the Church of Christ did not acknowledg it your main Foundation is a Dream of your own that the Church of Gorinth had a prescribed number and order of Prayers pronounced by some one Chaplain Pag. 621 ☜ that said his Lesson within-book or might not go one Line beside his Missale for any good Where the Christians under the Apostles had in their Assemblies first prophecying i. e. declaring of God's Will and revealing of his Word at which the Insidels and new Converts unbaptized might be present and next Prayers and Psalms to celebrate the Goodness and Kindness of God and to prepare their Minds for the Lord's Table to which all the Faithful came with one Consent of Heart and Voice giving Thanks to God for their Redemption c. And this was done by the mouths of such Pastors and Ministers as it pleased the Holy Ghost to direct and inspire for that Function and Action The People hearing understanding Pag. 622. and
to them and if he cannot exercife his Ministry after he is called unto it what doth it profit him to be a Minister or what is the Church the better for his Office If one acknowledged to be a Minister of the Universal Church may not administer in a particular Church then is it not because that particular Church requires some Conditions which are not so large as the Rules and Conditions of the Universal Church This may put us to search whether different Rules stricter Laws prescribed as Conditions of Entrance and Continuance in the Ministry and Church-Communion be not the Cause or Occasion of Schisms in particular Churches These Catholick Rules and Conditions are to be taken and received from the Apostles who went into all the World to gather and to found Christian Churches They gave us Laws enow to govern any particular Church who were sent into all the World And no Decrees of General Councils are of equal Observation with the Scriptures not only because of their Sanctity but because of their Universality and the very Errors and Mistakes of them in some Particulars are tolerable that do what they can to find out and follow the Will of God in Scripture And this Diversity can be no Inconvenience to any Church because of the plain Injunctions and Commands of keeping the Unity of the Spirit in the Bond of Peace of loving and forbearing one another in Love But to return What shall we say Are they but Lay-men or but quasi Lay-men that were once ordained by Diocesans or what it others can prove by the Holy Scriptures and the Catholick Rules of Faith that they are called of God and make proof of their Gifts which make there serviceable to the Souls of poor Sinners and only scruple some late implicating perplexing Terms what shall they do in this case They would enter into the Service according to the uncontroverted general Rules of Christ the Soveraign Law-giver of his Church but that will not serve the turn they must do more They have received Gifts from the Spirit of the same nature with other Ministers they 'l submit their Gifts to the Trial to free them from the Fanaticism imputed to them These Gifts are for some use they are their Talents and they must give an account of them to the Giver of them at his appearing Whither can any of them go and not be serviceable Is there any City Town Parish or noble Family in England in which there is not need or where such as they may not be exceeding profitable but in some Places there is a crying need O how few few Labourers are there in very large Fields yea as offensive as the presence of the Brethren are in many places there is not an useless Man among them nor one place hardly where is not need if not extream need What shall they do conform to the Church as Lay-men only What if the Bottle be so full that its ready to burst what if the Fire of Zeal true Zeal kindle must they not speak with their Tongue What if the Breast be full and they who were begorten in Christ Jesus by their Ministry cry cry to them O give us of the sincere Milk of the Word shall they say No my Breast is full but I must not draw it out What if they have Bread enough and can divide it and see a Company of poor Souls ready to starve and pine for Want and yet they must not give them a piece of Bread City Ministers are most quarelsome and contentious with them but if from their high Places they saw and knew but what I know instead of charging them with Separation and Schism they would beg of Authority that they would send them into many places of the Land which are more like a Wilderness than the Garden of the Lord but instead of doing this some have written to prepare a prejudiced People to entertain them with Stones or beseech them to depart out of their Coasts and not to open their Doors to entertain them or their Ears to hear them Oh! how are many of the Servants of God true Subjects able Preacers at this day forced to hide and many are as shy and close to entertain them as if they were Traitors and the Hue and Cry were out against them But what if these Men cannot think themselves discharged of their Work when their Hire is stopt they cannot but pity those that have no Shepherds or not enow they cannot stop their Ears against the Cry of the poor what if Conscience cry Wo to me if I preach not the Gospel O there are too many that never heard that Preaching in their Bosom Some have pleaded that Wo concerned none but the Apostle what shall they do between two Woes Wo from Christ if I preach not and Wo from Men if I preach Object They must obey the Laws obey Authority Answ So they must and as far they can they do Object But they say they must obey God rather than Men. Answ So did the Apostles who taught Obedience to Governours Neither may any godly Prince take it as any Dishonour to his Estate to see God obeyed before him Defence of the Apology part 1. p. 20. of my Edit for he is not God but the Minister of God saith our Venerable Father Bishop Jewel Object But our King and Magistrates and Laws are not such as They were neither are our Conventiclers Apostles Answ True I cast no Reflections upon the King but acknowledge his Life and Protestancy to be singular Mercies and Priviledges But if the first Christian Churches were planted and the Faith preached where the Rulers were Unbelievers disaffected to it and Persecuters of it then Preachers that preach the Doctrine of the Apostles and live according to the Gospel may humbly expect if not lay some Claim to a Priviledge of preaching and worshipping God as near as they can discern according to his mind The Case of the Brethren is so clear in it self The Canon Law calls their divers Orders Religion but to Christians and Protestants there is but one Religion that some in Power have no other colour for proceeding against them than as Men that exercise another Religion as I can produce which clearly intimates that it is unreasonable to proceed to Confiscations and Banishment against Men that profess the same Religion And whereas Godliness and Honesty may claim Protection they represent them as wicked and dishonest in the highest Degree that is seditious and withdrawing the King's Subjects from their Allegiance c. But this is the old Language Apolog. c. 2. Divis 7. p. 21. as the most Reverend Bishop Jewel writes as objected against them that we be fallen from the Catholick Church and by a wicked Schism have shaken the whole World and troubled the common Peace and universal Quiet of the Church and that as Dathan and Abiram conspired in times past against Moses and Aaron even so we this day have