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regard_n of_o posterity_n the_o immediate_a end_n of_o this_o altar_n be_v to_o testify_v that_o those_o tribe_n beyond_o jordan_n belong_v to_o the_o same_o people_n and_o so_o have_v right_a to_o the_o same_o worship_n with_o those_o of_o this_o side_n jordan_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o a_o ceremony_n of_o state_n and_o immediate_a use_n in_o the_o special_a solemn_a worship_n of_o god_n the_o rejoynder_n ask_v if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o holy_a religious_a end_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v so_o holy_a and_o religious_a as_o every_o landmark_a of_o a_o parson_n glebe-land_n or_o every_o sign_n of_o a_o parish-bound_a be_v holy_a and_o religious_a but_o not_o so_o as_o mystical_a ceremony_n b._n andrew_n against_o perone_n p._n 18_o give_v some_o light_n to_o this_o by_o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o light_n and_o incense_v there_o be_v light_n say_v he_o there_o be_v incense_v use_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o their_o service_n not_o for_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n but_o as_o it_o be_v think_v for_o this_o cause_n that_o where_o the_o christian_n in_o time_n of_o persecution_n have_v their_o meeting_n most_o common_o in_o place_n dark_a and_o so_o need_v light_n and_o dampish_a and_o so_o need_v good_a savour_n they_o provide_v light_n against_o one_o and_o incense_v against_o the_o other_o after_o the_o church_n retain_v these_o thing_n to_o show_v themselves_o the_o successor_n of_o those_o ancient_a christian_n etc._n etc._n the_o after-age_n devize_v meaning_n and_o signification_n of_o their_o own_o which_o from_o the_o beginning_n be_v not_o so_o if_o this_o be_v so_o as_o it_o be_v think_v then_o there_o may_v be_v sign_n of_o succession_n unto_o religious_a forefather_n without_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n which_o be_v all_o that_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v about_o this_o altar_n of_o jordan_n and_o for_o further_a manifest_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o this_o altar_n let_v it_o be_v well_o consider_v what_o josephus_n one_o of_o the_o learnede_a and_o most_o ancient_a jew_n now_o exstant_fw-la say_v antiq._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 4._o they_o place_v a_o altar_n on_o the_o bank_n of_o the_o river_n as_o a_o memorable_a sign_n of_o the_o nearness_n and_o affinity_n of_o they_o that_o dwell_v beyond_o jordan_n viz._n with_o they_o within_o canaan_n again_o it_o be_v not_o place_v for_o worship_n but_o symbolical_o and_o as_o a_o memorandum_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o you_o 8._o the_o rejoynder_n as_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v all_o other_o answer_n bring_v in_o one_o make_v to_o himself_o in_o conference_n though_o he_o have_v not_o find_v it_o in_o print_n as_o a_o grand_a absurdity_n namely_o that_o the_o gileadite_n do_v ill_a in_o erect_v this_o altar_n and_o the_o rest_n also_o in_o allow_v of_o it_o now_o as_o for_o allowance_n by_o the_o high_a priest_n prince_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o i_o find_v it_o not_o evident_a in_o the_o text._n about_o the_o other_o i_o find_v this_o 1._o that_o d._n fulke_o no_o absurd_a divine_a against_o sander_n of_o image_n pag._n 649._o write_v thus_o in_o print_n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a josh._n 22._o make_v not_o a_o image_n but_o a_o altar_n for_o a_o memorial_n and_o yet_o their_o fact_n be_v not_o commendable_a though_o it_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n excusable_a 2._o i_o find_v also_o that_o calvin_n before_o he_o upon_o josh._n 22._o say_v thus_o duae_fw-la tribus_fw-la â—um_fw-la dimidia_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a do_v very_o ill_a which_o be_v the_o great_a absurdity_n that_o the_o rejoynder_n have_v hear_v in_o conference_n but_o not_o see_v in_o print_n before_o now_o sect_n 17.18.19.20.21_o
that_o these_o ceremony_n in_o controversy_n be_v not_o convenient_a the_o def._n profess_v a_o full_a answer_n to_o all_o that_o be_v object_v give_v no_o answer_n to_o any_o thing_n there_o allege_v to_o that_o purpose_n when_o he_o be_v challenge_v by_o the_o repl._n for_o not_o show_v they_o convenient_a the_o rej._n pag._n 167._o accuse_v he_o of_o more_o impudency_n than_o he_o will_v have_v expect_v from_o any_o friar_n and_o yet_o direct_v we_o not_o to_o the_o place_n where_o he_o have_v go_v about_o any_o such_o matter_n the_o rej._n himself_o undertake_v to_o manifest_v their_o conveniency_n by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n sudden_o break_v off_o pag._n 74._o and_o refer_v that_o demonstration_n to_o a_o fit_a place_n which_o place_n hitherto_o he_o can_v not_o find_v nor_o ever_o will_n beside_o the_o rej._n confess_v a_o multitude_n of_o godly_a learned_a man_n among_o who_o be_v calvin_n beza_n martyr_n bucer_n hooper_n jewel_n fulke_o rainolds_n whitaker_n humphrey_n perkins_n etc._n etc._n to_o have_v hold_v our_o ceremony_n inexpedient_a or_o inconvenient_a at_o the_o least_o nay_o he_o himself_o have_v be_v in_o the_o same_o heresy_n all_o this_o notwithstanding_o he_o think_v it_o not_o significent_fw-la in_o one_o word_n to_o say_v for_o a_o shift_n without_o any_o proof_n or_o declaration_n that_o they_o be_v convenient_a for_o our_o church_n conveniency_n be_v esteem_v when_o as_o a_o thing_n after_o the_o consideration_n of_o all_o circumstance_n isfound_v to_o bring_v more_o good_a at_o the_o least_o then_o evil_a with_o it_o and_o i_o dare_v appeal_n to_o the_o rej._n his_o own_o conscience_n whether_o our_o ceremony_n have_v be_v cause_n or_o occasion_n of_o more_o good_a than_o evil_a they_o may_v do_v hurt_v say_v beza_n but_o they_o can_v do_v no_o good_a god_n know_v say_v m_n r._n fox_n they_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o much_o blindness_n and_o strife_n among_o man_n let_v this_o by_o the_o way_n be_v well_o observe_v out_o of_o this_o 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