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A20683 A defence of church gouernment Dedicated to the high Court of Parliament. Wherein, the church gouernment established in England, is directly proued to be consonant to the word of God, and that subiects ought of dutie to conforme themselues to the state ecclesiasticall. Together with, a defence of the crosse in baptisme; as it is vsed in our Church, being not repugnant to the word: and by a consequent, the brethren which are silenced, ought to subscribe vnto it, rather then to burie their talents in the ground. By Iohn Doue, Doctour of Diuinity. Dove, John, 1560 or 61-1618. 1606 (1606) STC 7081; ESTC S110107 58,733 80

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as to him did appertaine as appeareth by the story of the Gospel But thus I prooue that Bishops ought to be Lords Our Sauiour being asked whether a man might put away his wife answereth negatiuely his argument of proofe being drawne from the law of nature saying Ab initio non fuit sic from the beginning it was not so Likewise the argument Mat. 19. followeth Bishops ought to be Lords and Ecclesiasticall persons to exercise ciuill authority quoniam ab initio fuit sic because frō the beginning it was so From Adam to Moses it was so from Moses to our Sauiour Christ the Apostles it was so with them it was so and from them it hath continued so vntill this time excepting onely the times of persecution when the course of the Gospel was interrupted and there was no setled state of a Church No meruaile though in time of persecution they were not held for Lords for then they were not allowed to be Citizens nor thought worthy to liue in a Common wealth The Pagan Emperours helde them for seditious persons troublers of the state and of all men most worthy of death Our question is not what then was of fact but what ought to haue beene of right It must not seeme strange that Saint Iohn or Saint Paul could not be in authority vnder Nero Domitian nor the godly Bishops vnder the ten persecutions sceing our Sauiour was not allowed any authority vnder Herod nor Pilat nor Augustus nor Tiberius No meruaile though Titus could not be held as a Lord in the Kingdome of Creete seeing that neither Iehoahaz being lawfully anoynted King of Iuda could not reigne 2. Reg. 25. 2. Rug. 24 as a King being taken captiue by Pharao nor Iehoiakim nor Sedechias being oppressed by Nebuchadnezer From Adam vnto Moses he that was the eldest of euery Gen. 1. 26 Gen. 2. 23 Gen. 4. 3. 4 familie was both the king and the priest ouer his own family among Gods people So Adam was a king because God gaue him absolute power ouer the whole world he was also a priest for hee offered sacrifice Caine and Abel brought to him their sacrifices that he might offer in their behalfe they are onely saide to haue offered as Asa the King and all the people are saide to haue offered when the Priest did offer in 2. Chr. 15 their behalfe Henoch seeing the children of God to fall daily from faith to infidelity which was the cause of the deluge published against them the sentence of excommunication saying The Lord commeth which is the most grieuous kinde of excōmunicatiō And S. Paul did borrow that form of him Iudae v. 14 where he writ Hee that loueth not the Lord Iesus let him be an athema marannatha cursed vntill the Lords comming And Moses 1. Cor. 16 did reckon vp so long a catalogue of all the eldest sonnes descended from Adam before the flood to this end that it Gen. 5. might appeare vnto whom from time to time the Lord committed the care of gouerning instructing the Church Noah a king was a preacher of righteousnesse one hundred and twenty yeares before the flood hee offered sacrifice after the flood That Iethro the father in law of Moses was both a 2. Pet. 2. 5 1. Pet. 2. 19 4. 16. Gen. 8. 20. Numb 3. 12. 12. 8. 16. 17. prince a priest likewise Iob in the land of Huz no learned man will deny And that none might offer sacrifices but the eldest and Princes of euery family it appeareth by the writings of Moses because God said he would take the tribe of Leui to be seperated for his seruice as a redemption of all the rest of the first borne of Israel In which words hee did but call to remembrance the time of nature wherein the eldest were all his that is they were consecrated for the offering of sacrifice vnto him When Melchisedech was King and Priest of Salem Ge. 14. 18 Abraham also was King and Priest ouer his own family It was saide of him Thou art a great Prince of God among vs Gen. 23. 6 Ge. 18. 19. Ge. 22. 10 Gen. 17. Ge. 26. 24 And he taught them Gods word he erected an altar and offered sacrifice To him first was committed the sacrament of circumcision and he circumcised his sonne Isaac Isaac his heire crected an altar and offered cacrifice for the exercise of his faith Iacob after him did the like taught purity of religion and how Idolls were to be abolished Ge. 35. 11. In the daies of Moses vnder the time of the law when priesthood was appropriated to one peculiar tribe of Leui and the Bishoprick to one certaine family Moses and Aaron both being priests Moses the yonger brother had the chiefe authority in ciuill businesses Aaron the elder in Ecclesiasticall causes but all supreame authority was committed to these two priests Moses and Aaron That Moses was a priest Exod. 24. 6. 7. 8. it is euident because all the whole tribe of Leui were then consecrated ●o holy priesthood whereof hee was one hee in particular offered sacrifice preached Gods word consecrated Exod. 40. Numb 20. Aaron to be an high priest and Eleazar in his place when he was dead consecrated the altar which none could doe without sacrilege but a priest Yet he was the supreame ciuil Magistrate And in his absence 40. daies he substituted Aaron the priest in his roome to heare ciuill causes and supply the place of a ciuill Magistrate Phinees the high priest Numb 25. was a Captaine in warre and busied himselfe with secular affaires and it pleased God so much that the priesthood was conferred not onely vpon him but also his posterity Samuel the Prophet who ministred before the Lord in a linnen Ephod was also the chiefe ciuil Magistrate and in his own person did ride his circuit as a Iudge euery yeare ouer all the 1. Sam 12. 18. 1. Sam. 7. 1. Sam. 8. land All the daies of the Iudges which was about two hundred ninety and nine yeares from the death of Iosua vnto Eli the priest there was no certaine supreame ciuill magistracie in any but in the high priests or Bishops among the people When the people desired a king of God they cōsulted with Samuel in that secular busines After those 299. yeares of the Iudges Eli the Bishop reigned as supreame ciuill Magistrate 40. yeares so did Samuel after him the space of 40. yeares Afterward when Saule was by him annointed King yet Samuel ruled ioyntly with Saule so long as he liued and indeed bore the greatest sway in the realme because Saule had little more then the title of a King during the life of Samuel and was to doe nothing without allowance from him How the Clergie among Gods people busied themselues with the affaires of the temporal●ie and howe much they pleased God in so doing it appeareth by these examples Numb 31 6. 26. Numb
34. 17. Iosua 22. 13. Numb 26. 63. 64. 2. Chron 13. Iosua 6. 1. Pet 23. 4. Phinees the Sonne of Eleazar the Bishoppe was a Captaine against the Midianites and Eleazar his selfe ioyntly with Moses diuided the spoyles among the Souldiers Eleazar with Iosua diuided the land of promise among the Tribes Phineas the Bishop was sent Ambassador to proclaime warre against Gad Ruben and halfe Manasses Moses and Eleazar numbred the people in the plaine of Moab and Moses and Aaron in the wildernes of Sina The Priests and Leuites sounded their Trumpets and bid the battell in the warre of Abias against Ieroboam The Priests ouerthrewe the citie Iericho And the godly King Dauid setting the Kingdome in better order then it was before appointed 6000. Leuites to be Iudges and Magistrates ouer the people Likewise beyond Iordan towardes the West 1700. both to serue God in the place of Leuites and also to serue the King in ciuill offices pertaining to the common wealth and also 2700. he set ouer Ruben Gad and Manasses to heare and determine all causes both ecclesiasticall and ciuill concerning God in the Church and the King in the common wealth The Kings were annointed and confirmed in their kingdomes by the hands of the Bishops ecclesiasticall persons 1. Sam 10. 1. Sam 16. 1. Reg 1. So Samuel annointed Saule Dauid Sadoc annointed Solomon when Adoniah had proclaimed himselfe King by help of Abiathar the Priest Nathan the Prophet said to Dauid me thy seruant Sadoc the Priest haue they not called nor Benoiah the son of Ichoiada Then Dauid said Call me Sadoch the Priest and Nathan the Prophet and let them annoint and proclaime Solomon Ier 26. Exod 32. King Ieremy was condemned to death by the Priests and the Prophets The Leuites by the commandement of Moses slewe with the sword 3000. that committed idolatry It was commanded by God that when they went to warre Ex 32. Deut 20. Deut 21. 19. 1. Sam. 15 the Priests should go before them exhort them to be couragious and valiant That if there were inquisition after murther the Priests should come forth and by their word the cause should be tryed Samuel valiantly slewe Agag the King of the Amalakites whom Saule the King for foolish pittie could not find in his heart to smite Godly Iosephat in his reformation of the Church and common 2. Chron wealth appointed Iudges in euey citie throughout the land as it appeareth verse 5. And what kinde of men these Iudges were it appeareth in the 8. verse following In Ierusalem as also in other cities he appointed Iuges out of the Princes of euery family and the Priests and Leuites which were to heare both ciuil and Ecclesiastical causes and so doth Tremelius expound it according to the truth of the Hebrew text and at Ierusalem which was the chamber of the Kingdome there was established by him the highest bench of iustice vnto which as vnto the highest court it was lawfull to appeale from all inferiour Courts and Iudges euen as it is now with the Kings Bench and the high commission Court at London And among these Iudges who were to take place before other it is explaned in the 11. verse of that chapter namely in ecclesiasticall causes ecclesiasticall men in temporall causes temporal men but so that in euery ciuil court of Iustice there should be some Priests and Leuites in Commission Moreouer the Lord saith If there arise a matter too hard for thee in iudgement betweene blood and blood plea and plea plague Deut 17. 8. and plague in the matters of controuersie within thy gates then shalt thou arise and goe vnto the place which the Lord thy God shal choose and thou shalt come to the Priests of the Leuites and to the Iudge that shal be in those dayes and aske and they shal shew thee the sentence of iudgement thou shalt doe according to the thing which they of that place which the Lord hath chosen shal shewe thee c. and that man which wil doe presumptuously not hearkening to the Priest which standeth before the Lord thy God to minister there and the Iudge that man shal dye and thou shalt take eway euill from Israel so all the people shal heare and feare and doe no more presumptuously As for Ezra the Priest he had authoritie from Artaxerxes the King of Persia to order all matters whatsoeuer spiritual Ezra 7. and temporall concerning the returne of the people out of captiuitie he ordered both the Princes and the people Priests and Leuites he appointed al the Iudges in the land that whosoeuer would not doe according to the Lawe of God and the Kings Lawe should haue iudgement without delay whether it were vnto death or banishment or confiscation of goods or imprisonment And there was by Ezra set down the whole Ezra 8. platforme of the ciuill estate of the common wealth Againe he gathered together the Princes and all the Clergy proclaimed a fast humbled them before God that hee would guide them in their iourney beeing ashamed to aske of Artaxerxes an Army of horsemen to helpe them because he had saide before that their trust was in God alone In the 10 Chapter hee causeth all as well temporall as spirituall to sweare that they would put away their strange wiues caused a proclamation to goe out through Iuda and Ierusalem to assemble in Ierusalem within three dayes in paine of confiscation of their goods How afterward the Maccabes being Gods seruants held both the Priesthood and the Kingdome among the Iewes being Gods people and that without impeachmenr the learned know very well and that they continued both high Priests and also Kings vntil the land was conquered by the Romans and the ciuill gouernment committed vnto the family of the Herods vntil the comming of our Sauiour Christ who translated both the kingdome and the Priesthood of right vnto himselfe And whereas some men doe obiect against these examples Ioh. 18. by me alledged for confirmation of spirituall mens authoritie in temporal causes among Gods people That when our Sauiour Christ was to bee arrayned they brought him from the high Priest to the iudgement seate of Pilate a temporall Iudge and saide to Pilate verse 31. It is not lawful for vs to put any man to death I answere first the Priest in particular did not say these wordes It is not lawfull for vs to put any man to death but the Iewes in generall not to the preiudice of Priests onely but of the whole nation of the Iewes Secondly they speake not these wordes as if the Iewes had of right from God no authoritie to put mē to death For Pilate himself doth confesse that they had right in themselues where he saith Take him and iudge him according to your owne lawe But these wordes are to be vnderstood that according to the Lawes of Herod a stranger and of the Romans which made them tributary and by
force tooke from them all power of life death not onely from the Priests but also from the whole nation 40. yeares before that time as Maister Beza hath well obserued it was not lawfull for them to put any man to death Thirdly if the Iewes had had all their authoritie in their Beza in annot maiorib in Ioh 18. hands without controlment yet it appeareth by the 28. verse of that chapter that the Priests at that time would not be present at that iudgement where sētence of death was to be pronounced because the feast of Easter was at hand and so doing they should haue made themselues vncleane and by a consequent disinabled themselues from executing their office at that solemnitie Thus you haue heard proued out of the holy Scriptures that among Gods people in that kingdome which was gouerned according to Gods own lawes euen then when it was reformed by godly kings there was no bench of Iustice for hearing and ending of ciuill causes vpon which Priests and Leuites did not sit as Iudges and Iustices Therefore I demand other sound reasons or places of Sctipture to proue why it should not so continue among vs which are also Gods people especially our Ecclesiasticall persons being more honourable vnder the Gospel then they were vnder the law I confesse that the Popes lawes haue decreed the contrarie but Lancelelot iustitut iuris can l 1. Tit 4. Concil Lat 31. partis 1. can 12. it is not fit that wee which are a reformed Church and haue long since abandoned the Popes authoritie should nowe forsake God and the examples of the holy Bible to followe the Pope and his Canons The Popes lawe saith Laici sunt quibus licet temporalia prssidere vxere●● ducere causes agere intèr virum virum iudicare Clerici qui diuinis officijs mancipati sunt quos ab omni strepitu cessare conueuit Lay men are they to whom it is lawful to haue temporal possessions to marie wiues handle causes and controuersies in Law to iudge betweene man and man but as for Clergy men their state and condition is otherwise they are so deuoted and mancipated to the seruice of God that they must not intermeddle with such worldly troubles Some of our brethren giue this answerles answer that arguments drawen from the state of the Ministerie in the olde Testament to that which is vnder the Gospell doe not holde that we must not followe examples of the olde Testament in Church gouernment and that therefore the argument doth not followe that because Bishoppes in the olde Testament were Lords and of the Kings Counsell in the highest place and inferiour Ministers were ciuill Magistrates therefore vnder the Gospell it may be so although what should hinder they cannot shewe But that I may followe them in that course of disputation They say wee must not followe the examples of the olde Testament in Church gouernment and that therefore the argument doth not followe Bishops in the olde Testament were Lords and Kings Counsellers and inferiour Ministers were ciuill Magistrates therefore vnder the Gospel they must be so To whō I alledge that by the like reason these arguments which Bishop Iuell and the learned men of the reformed churches haue vrged against the Popes authoritie and for the vpholding of Princes cannot follow when they conclude in this manner Solomon deposed Abiathar the Priest for committing high Treason and placed Sadoc in his roome therefore vnder the Gospell Christian Kings may punish their Ministers for high Treason Ezechias reformed the Church Iosias reade the Lawe before the Priestes in the house of the Lord and commanded Helchias the high Priest and the Priests of the second order to bring forth of the Temple all the vessells made for Baall put downe Idolls 1. Reg 2. 2. Reg 18. slewe the idolatrous Priestes therefore Christian Kings may put downe idolatrie and reforme the Church You see thereforefore the weakenes and great vnsufficiency of this answere Againe why doe the Lawes of Geneua punish adulterie with death after the example of the olde Testament and why doe our brethren which stand for the reformation labour that the same punishment may bee inflicted vpon adulterers with vs vrging vs with the authoritie of that Law if so be that they will holde that the Lawes of the old Testament may not preuaile vnder the Gospell In their simplicitie and want of iudgement they shape this answere as if it were the Trumpet to blowe downe Iericho Dauids sling to kill Golias Sampsons iawe-bone to slay a thousand Philistines that the ceremoniall Lawe is abolished whereas before I haue shewed thal this is not ceremoniall but politicall and that the Priesthood is abolished whereas onely that which is ceremonicall concerning the Priests office is abolished but that which is moral indureth to the end And againe a Minister of the Gospell may with more conueniencie be a ciuill Magistrate then the Priests vnder the Lawe because now the daily sacrifices the great number of feasts and solemnities the infinite number of ceremonies do cease which then procured vnto them a whole world of businesses in their Ministery by which they had lesse vacant time to heare ciuill causes then our Ministers haue vnder the Gospell The answer to the common obiection Luk 22 25. they that beare rule ouer them are called gracious Lords but ye shall not be so FOr the opening of this text these things are to be examined First whether our Sauiour spake these wordes to his Apostles onely or in the name of the Apostles to al Christians For albeit the Apostles onely were personally present and his apostrophe was vnto thē yet many circumstances do proue that these words doe cōcerne al Christians For first we find else where another speech parallel vnto this The Scribes and Pharisies loue the chiefe places at feasts and to Mat 2. 3. haue the chiefe seates in the assemblies and greeting in the markets and to be called of men Rabbi Rabbi that is Lord Lord but be not yee called Rabbi for one is your Rabbi to wit Christ and all ye are brethren c. but he that is greatest among you let him be your seruant No man can iustly say this was spoken vnto Ecclesiasticall persons onely but also to lay men for so the text saith Then Iesus spake to the multitude and to his Disciples 2. In the same chapter it appeareth that our Sauiour did celebrate his last Supper immediately before he spake these wordes but that storie being set downe more plaine by the other Enangelist hee saide drinke you of this all Mat 26. which wordes were spoken onely to his Apostles and yet none but they of the Church of Rome will so conster them as if they were ment onely of Ecclesiasticall persons For euen as the Cuppe in the holy Communion did not appertaine onely vnto the Ministerie but also vnto the laitie so humilitie which is the Subiect of this speech is not