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A10966 A treatise vpon sundry matters contained in the Thiry nine Articles of religion, which are professed in the Church of England long since written and published by Thomas Rogers. Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.; Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. Faith, doctrine and religion professed in England. 1639 (1639) STC 21233; ESTC S1674 207,708 274

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given to every King or Queene in their owne Dominion by the Word of God For They are for titles gracious Lords a Luke 22.25 Princes b Rom. 13.3 the Ministers of God c Ibid. 4. the Nurses of the Church d Isa 49.23 Gods e Psal 32.1 For authority the chiefe f 1 Pet. 2.13 Which moveth St. Paul to exhort that supplications be made for all men but first for Kings as the chiefe g 1 Tim 3.1 Againe Every soule is commanded to be subject to the higher power c h Rom. 13.1 Finally the examples are manifold and pregnant shewing the principality of Kings over all persons and causes For Aaron the high Priest called Moses the chiefe Prince his Lord i Exod. 32.21 so did Abimelech tearme Saul his Lord k 1 Sam. 22.12 K. Iehosaphat as chiefe in Iudah appointed Iudges Levites and Priests l 2 Chr. 19.5 c. 8. K. Ezechias also as chiefe sent unto all Israel and Iudah that they should come to the house of the Lord at Ierusalem to keepe the Passeover m 2 Chr. 30.1 also hee appointed the course of Priests and Levites by their turnes n 2 Chr. 31.2 and commanded all the Priests to offer sacrifice c. and they obeyed him o Ibid. c. 29.21.22 and enjoyned all the congregation to bring offerings and they brought them p 31. Confess Helv. 1. ar 16. c. 2 30. Basil ar 7. Bohem. c. 16. Bel. ar 36. Aug. ar 16. 17. Sax. ar 23. Suc. pecorer Which we doe unto ours the very same doe the Churches of God ascribe unto Christian Magistrates in their principalities Errors and adversaries unto this truth Which being true then false is it which the Papists deliver viz. that The Kings excellency of power is in respect of the Nobility and Lay-magistrates under him and not of Popes Bishops or Priests as they have cure of soules a Test Rhem. Annot. 1 Pet. 2.13 Kings and Princes be they never so great must be subject unto some Bishop Priest or Prelate b Ibid. an Heb. 13.7 The whole Clergie ought to bee free from paying Tribute c Ibid. an Mat. 17.26 Sacerdotes etiam Principibus jure divino subditi deleatur say the expurgators Priests are not by Gods Law subject unto Princes d Index expurg p. 26. No man is to be subject unto his temporall Prince and superiour in matters of Religion or regiment of his soule but in such things onely as concerne the publike peace and policie e Test Rhem. an Rom. 13.1 False also is it which the Puritanes doe hold namely that Princes must be servants unto the Church be subject unto the Church submit their scepters unto the Church and throw downe their Crownes before the Church f T. C. r●p p. 144. Magistrates as well as other men must submit themselves and bee obedient to the just and lawfull authority of the Church g ●● dis p. 185. that is of the Presbitery h That which our Saviour calleth Presbyt●rian and to doth Luke ●●a disc p. 89. Quis tandem reges principes who can exempt even Kings and Princes from this Non humana sed divina Dominatione not humane but divine Domination meaning of the Presbytery saith Beza i B za de pres p. 124. which Presbytery they would have to be in every Parish k There ought to be in every Church a Consistory of seigniory of elders or governours ●●ar disc p. 84 Every Congregation ought to have Elders and an Eldership-Demon of dis c. 12. p. 55. cap. 14. pag. 69. In stead of Chancellors A●chdeacons Officials Commissaries Proctors Summoners Churchwardens and such like you Parliament men have to plant in every Congregation a lawfull and godly Seigniory 1. Admor to the Parliam I would that every little Parish should have seven such Elders at the least and every meane Church 13. and every great Church 13. Hunt of the Foxe c. Ec. 2.2 Quotquot ecclesiae Christi as many as be members of Christ and of the Church they must subject themselves to the Consistorian discipline Non hic excipitur Episcopus aut Imperator Neither Bishop or Emperour is excepted here Nulla hic acceptio aut exceptio est personarum Here is no acception or exception of persons l S●eca● de dis p. eccles p. 456. 3. Proposition His highnesse may not execute the Ecclesiasticall duties of preaching and ministring the Sacraments and yet is to prescribe lawes and directions unto all estates both Ecclesiasticall and Temporall The proofe from Gods Word KIng Ezechiah said unto the Priests and Levites of his time My sonnes be not deceived For the Lord hath chosen you to stand before him and to serve him and to be his Ministers and to burne incense a 2 Chr. 29.11 So doe we say The Lord hath appointed a company and calling of men to teach the people to expound the Scriptures to celebrate the Sacraments to handle the Keyes of the celestiall Kingdome insomuch as hee whosoever that shall presume to doe these things not called thereunto and that lawfully b See afore ar though he be a King or Prince he may feare that punishment which fell upon Vzzah c 2 Chr. 26.19 Notwithstanding all Kings Queenes and Princes in their places may yea and must as occasion serveth with K. Salomon build an house for the Lord d 2 Chr. 2.1 and set the courses of Priests to their office e 2 Chr. 8.14 with K. Ezechiah breake the Images cut downe the Groves take away the high places f 2 Chr. 31.1 appoint the courses of the Priests and Levites and enjoyne all the people to minister sustenance unto the Priests g Thus did Ezechiah throughout all Iudah and did well and uprightly and truely before the Lord his God 2 Chr. 31.20 with K. Iosiah put downe and burne the horses of the Sunne h 2 Kin 23.11 breake downe the houses of the Sodomites i Ibid. 7. purge Iudah and Ierusalem from the high places Groves carved and molten Images k 2 Chr. 3.34 appoint the Priests to their charges l Ibid. 3.5.2 and compell all that are found in Israel to serve the Lord their God m Ib. c. 33.34 and with the King of Niniveh proclaime a fast and command every man to turn from his evill way c n Jonas 3.7 Of the same judgement be other Churches o Confe Helv. 1. ar 26. 2. c. 30. Basil ar 7. Boh. c 16. Gal. ar 39. Belg. ar 35. Sax. ar 23. Wittem c. 35. The errors and adversaries unto this truth Much therefore out of the way are and offend greatly doe first the Papists who publish that The care of Religion pertaineth not unto Kings Religionis curam semper pertinnisse adreges dole say the expurgators blot it out a Index expur p. 145. Queenes may not have
Church that enquiry be made of evill ministers and that they hee accused by those that have knowledge of their offences and finally being found guilty by just judgement be deposed The Propositions 1. The effect of the Word and Sacraments is not hindred by the badnesse of ministers 2. Evill ministers are to be searched out convicted and deposed but orderly and by the discipline of the Church 1. Proposition The effect of the Word and the Sacraments is not hindred by the badnesse of ministers The proofe from Gods Word OF the ministers ecclesiasticall the Church is to conceive neither too sinisterly as though their unworthinesse could make the Word and Sacraments the lesse effectuall to such as worthily do heare and receive them nor on the other side too highly as if the dignity of their calling were cause good enough that what they doe or say ex opere operato take happy effects These things from the Scriptures are manifest which teach us that wicked ministers even the Scribes and Pharises fitting in Moses chaire a Matth. 23.1 and preaching Christ though through envie strife and contention b Phil. 1.15 are to be heard and many administer the Sacraments as did the ordinary Priests among the Iewes whereof very many both afore and after that our Saviour came into the world were most wicked men and the best are but the Ministers of God c 1 Cor. 4.1 and Gods labourers d 1 Cor. 3.9 Also the purer Churches beare witnesse hereunto e Confes Helv. 1. ar 15. 20 22. Hel. 2. 1. 18 21 Bohe. c. 11. 12. Gal. ar 3. 35. Aug ar 8. Sax ar 1● 13. Wit ar 31. Suc. ar 13 Neither is he whosoever that planteth any thing neither he that watereth but God that giveth the encrease saith Saint Paul f 1 Cor. 3.7 And a signe of a good spirit is it to regard not so much who speaketh a ministreth or what is uttered and offered from God Errors and adversaries unto this truth The due consideration of the premises will both settle us the more firmely in the truth and make us the more carefully to abhorre all adversaries thereof as in old time were the Donatists and the Petilians who taught that the Sacraments are holy when they be administred by holy men but not else a D August in Psa 100. 32. Idem contra P●til l. 1. c 4. also the Apostolikes or Henricians who had a fancie that he was no Bishop which was a wicked man b Magdeburg eccles hist C●nt ●2 cap. 5. fol ●44 Among the Fathers also Cyprian and Origen were not found in this point For Cyprian published that no minister could rightly baptize who was not himselfe endued with the holy Ghost c D. Cyprian epist lib. 1. lib. ad Mag. ep 6. he further delivered that whosoever doe communicate with a wicked minister doe sinne d Ibid. ep 4. Origen held that in vaine did any minister either bind or lose who was himselfe bound with the chaines of sinne and wickednesse e D Orig in Math. ●1 act 1. Such adversaries in our time be the Anabaptists the Family of Love the disciplinarians usually termed Puritans the Sabbatarians the Brownists and Papists For f Wilk against the l a ar 14. p. 66. The Anabaptists will not have the people to use the ministery of evill ministers and thinke the service of wicked Ministers unprofitable and not effectuall affirming that no man who is himselfe faulty can preach the truth to others The Family of Love doe say that no man can minister the upright service or ceremonies of Christ but the regenerate g H. N. evang c. 23. 6. 2. also that wicked men cannot teach the truth h Fam 1. epist to M. Rogers The disciplinarian Puritanes do bring all ministers which cannot preach and their services into detestation For their doctrine is that Where there is no Preacher there ought to be no minister of the Sacraments i Lear. disc p. 62. None must minister the Sacraments which doe not preach k T. C. 1. c. p. 104. The Sacrament is not a Sacrament if it be not joyned to the Word of God preached l Ber. de Loquercas of the Church c. 10. It is a sacriledge to separate the ministration of the word preached from the Sacraments m Lear. disc p. 60. Of these mens opinions be the Sabbatarians among us For their doctrine is to the common people that unlesse they leave their unpreaching ministers every Sabbath day and goe to some place where the Word is preached they do prophane the Sabbath and subject themselves unto the curse of God n D. B. doc of the Sab. 2. booke p. 173. So the Brownists No man is to communicate say they where there is a blind or dumbe ministery o R. H. on Psal 122. The Papists doe crosse this truth but after another sort For Pope Hildebrand decreed and commanded that no man should heare Masse from the mouth of a Priest which hath a wife p B. Iewel on Ag. 1. ser The Rhemists doe publish how The Sermons of heretikes and so tearme they all Protestant ministers must not be heard q Test Rhem. annot tit 3. 10. r Ibid. an Mar. 3.13 though they preach the truth Their prayers and sacraments are not acceptable to God but are the howling of wolves 2. Proposition Evill ministers are to be searched out convicted and deposed but orderly and by the discipline of the Church The wicked and evill ministers must not alwaies be endured in the Church of God For they are the evill and unprofitable servants a Math. 25.26 the eyes which doe offend b Math. 18.9 the unsavoury salt c Math. 5.13 which are carefully to be seene unto and if admonitions will not serve deposed yet orderly and by the discipline of the Church For that God which appointed a government for the civill state hath also given authority unto his Church to punish offenders according to the quality of their transgressions And so may we reade in the Word of God Let the Church say our Saviour d Math. 18.17 Let such a one by the power of our Lord Iesus Christ be delivered unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved in the day of our Lord Iesus saith Saint Paul e So the neighbour Churches f Helv. 2. c. 18. Bohe. 2. c. 18. ar 11. Suev ar 35. Adversaries unto this truth Then deceived and out of the way are the Brownists and Barrowists which are of minde that Private persons in themselves have authority to depose unmeet ministers and to punish malefactors a R.H. in Psal 121. p. 117. Every particular member of a Church in himselfe hath power to examine the manner of administring the Sacraments c. to call men unto repentance c b Bar. disco p. 56. to reproove the faults of the Church and