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be_v church-member_n p._n 18_o how_o far_o the_o sichemite_n be_v of_o israel_n and_o church-member_n p._n 21_o sect._n 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10._o of_o other_o nation_n ibid._n sect._n 11._o the_o israelite_n infant_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n universal_a p._n 26._o sect._n 12_o to_o the_o 18._o infant_n be_v member_n of_o the_o jew_n church_n as_o well_o as_o commonwealth_n p._n 28._o sect._n 18._o quest_n 4._o there_o be_v a_o law_n or_o precept_n of_o god_n oblige_v parent_n to_o enter_v their_o child_n into_o covenant_n with_o god_n by_o accept_v his_o favour_n and_o engage_v and_o devote_v they_o to_o god_n and_o there_o be_v a_o promise_n of_o god_n offer_v they_o his_o mercy_n and_o accept_v they_o when_o devote_v as_o aforesaid_a etc._n etc._n p._n 31_o sect._n 19_o etc._n etc._n visible_a church-membership_a what_o it_o be_v and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o benefit_n p._n 32_o sect._n 22._o legal-right_a to_o infant_n church-state_n give_v by_o god_n covenant_n mr._n t.'s_n 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and_o whether_o he_o like_v his_o other_o reason_n quid_fw-la festinat_fw-la innocens_fw-la aetas_fw-la ad_fw-la remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la and_o whether_o tertullian_n here_o do_v not_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o take_v those_o infant_n that_o be_v baptise_a to_o receive_v thereby_o solemn_a remission_n of_o sin_n if_o they_o have_v any_o sin_n if_o he_o think_v they_o have_v none_o we_o have_v little_a reason_n to_o follow_v his_o opinion_n 8._o whether_o his_o own_o word_n plain_o show_v not_o what_o i_o have_v say_v of_o he_o that_o it_o be_v as_o constantine_n and_o multitude_n delay_v baptism_n for_o fear_v of_o fall_v afterward_o which_o they_o think_v most_o dangerous_a si_fw-la qui_fw-la pondus_fw-la intelligant_fw-la baptismi_fw-la magis_fw-la timebunt_fw-la consecutionem_fw-la quam_fw-la dilationem_fw-la fides_n integra_fw-la secura_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la salute_v and_o lib._n de_fw-la anima_fw-la tertullian_n say_v apostolos_fw-la ex_fw-la sanctificato_fw-la alterutro_fw-la sexu_fw-la sanctos_fw-la procreari_fw-la ait_fw-la tam_fw-la ex_fw-la seminis_fw-la praerogativa_fw-la quam_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la disciplina_fw-la omnis_fw-la anima_fw-la in_o adam_n censetur_fw-la donec_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la recenseatur_fw-la see_v the_o rest_n there_o for_o infant_n birth_n holiness_n §_o 3._o his_o renew_a reproach_n of_o cyprian_a as_o have_v antichristian_a doctrine_n and_o his_o renew_a question_v whether_o there_o be_v ever_o such_o a_o council_n as_o that_o at_o carthage_n mention_v be_v thing_n so_o audacious_a and_o gross_a that_o they_o need_v no_o further_o answer_v pag._n 90._o §_o 4._o and_o his_o citation_n of_o austin_n pag._n 94._o that_o which_o have_v not_o be_v institute_v in_o council_n etc._n etc._n be_v nothing_o against_o this_o authority_n or_o to_o disprove_v its_o apostolical_a traduction_n for_o it_o be_v easy_a for_o he_o to_o see_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v not_o whether_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptise_a that_o be_v the_o question_n but_o whether_o it_o shall_v be_v do_v before_o the_o eight_o day_n 2._o that_o this_o council_n be_v so_o far_o from_o institute_v infant_n baptism_n that_o it_o be_v never_o bring_v into_o doubt_n or_o question_n among_o they_o but_o take_v as_o the_o unquestioned_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n but_o o_o that_o such_o as_o mr._n d._n will_v give_v over_o honour_v antichrist_n so_o far_o and_o rejoice_v and_o harden_v the_o papist_n as_o to_o make_v such_o as_o cyprian_a teacher_n of_o antichristian_a doctrine_n and_o antichrist_n to_o have_v be_v the_o author_n of_o infant_n christen_v before_o cyprian_a and_o tertullia_n time_n the_o papist_n owe_v such_o adversary_n thanks_o §_o 5._o pag._n 104._o he_o boast_v of_o forty_o more_o against_o infant_n baptism_n cite_v by_o he_o as_o not_o yet_o humble_v for_o his_o abuse_n and_o because_o mr._n will_v by_o mistake_n grant_v he_o adrian_n and_o hincmare_n he_o seem_v to_o believe_v himself_o the_o more_o confident_o as_o if_o they_o have_v indeed_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n of_o which_o before_o §_o 6._o pag._n 105._o he_o recite_v his_o false_a story_n of_o berinus_fw-la of_o which_o before_o §_o 7._o pag._n 106._o he_o recite_v his_o falsification_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o apameae_fw-la and_o turn_v we_o for_o his_o proof_n to_o some_o book_n oft_o call_v the_o dutch_a century_n writer_n and_o the_o dutch_a martyrologie_n i_o suppose_v both_o novel_a and_o anabaptist_n author_n and_o he_o may_v as_o well_o turn_v we_o over_o to_o our_o neighbour_n anabaptist_n to_o tell_v we_o what_o be_v write_v in_o the_o ancient_a historian_n and_o doctor_n when_o we_o have_v the_o book_n themselves_o before_o we_o §_o 8._o pag._n 106_o 107._o he_o impenitent_o repeat_v his_o slander_n of_o wickliff_n refer_v we_o to_o his_o prof_n p._n 283_o etc._n etc._n where_o have_v before_o false_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o write_v another_o book_n call_v trialogia_n beside_o his_o dialogue_n when_o it_o be_v the_o same_o book_n that_o be_v call_v trialogus_fw-la in_o the_o m._n s._n and_o dialogus_fw-la in_o the_o print_a copy_n as_o he_o may_v see_v by_o many_o citation_n out_o of_o the_o trialogus_fw-la in_o bishop_n usher_n the_o success_n eccles_n which_o be_v all_o in_o the_o dialogus_fw-la he_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o great_a many_o of_o wickliff_n word_n to_o other_o purpose_n and_o can_v bring_v one_o line_n or_o word_n in_o which_o he_o deny_v infant-baptism_n but_o only_o 1._o the_o lie_a accusation_n of_o his_o adversary_n to_o that_o end_n and_o 2._o his_o own_o word_n which_o deny_v two_o popish_a tenant_n 1._o that_o baptism_n save_v all_o ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la when_o he_o prove_v contrary_o of_o young_a and_o old_a that_o where_o grace_n concur_v it_o save_v and_o else_o not_o 2._o that_o infant_n unbaptise_v be_v damn_v which_o in_o charity_n he_o think_v be_v to_o be_v deny_v and_o what_o be_v this_o against_o their_o baptism_n §_o 9_o yea_o wickliff_n express_o assert_v infant-baptism_n dialog_n li._n 4._o c._n 11._o i_o will_v give_v the_o reader_n mr._n danvers_n word_n and_o his_o together_o mr._n d._n reply_v p._n 106_o 107._o that_o wickliff_n deny_v infant-baptism_n i_o produce_v so_o much_o evidence_n to_o prove_v it_o from_o pag._n 283._o to_o 289._o demonstrate_v that_o he_o not_o only_o affirm_v that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n but_o withal_o that_o child_n be_v not_o sacramental_o to_o be_v baptise_a and_o what_o can_v be_v more_o express_a evidence_n in_o the_o case_n and_o treat_n ed._n 2._o p._n 283._o that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n as_o appear_v in_o his_o eleven_o chap._n of_o his_o trialog_n and_o p._n 287._o as_o a_o lollard_n he_o deny_v infant-baptism_n whether_o mr._n d._n ever_o see_v his_o cite_a book_n i_o know_v not_o but_o judge_v of_o the_o man_n credit_n by_o the_o word_n he_o cite_v the_o eleven_o chap._n not_o tell_v we_o of_o which_o book_n but_o it_o be_v the_o four_o book_n where_o the_o matter_n be_v handle_v as_o follow_v wickliff_n trialog_n l._n 4._o cap._n 11._o et_fw-la primo_fw-la videamus_fw-la ubi_fw-la baptismus_fw-la in_o evangelio_n stabilitur_fw-la nam_fw-la lege_fw-la mat._n ult_n quomodo_fw-la christus_fw-la mandavit_fw-la suis_fw-la apostolis_n item_fw-la docete_fw-la etc._n etc._n et_fw-la hinc_fw-la philippus_n baptizan_n eunuchum_fw-la act._n 8._o prius_fw-la instruxit_fw-la eum_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la et_fw-la propter_fw-la hanc_fw-la formam_fw-la verborum_fw-la christi_fw-la mat_n ult_n ecclesia_fw-la nostra_fw-la adducit_fw-la fideles_fw-la pro_fw-la infante_n qui_fw-la discretionem_fw-la non_fw-la attigerat_fw-la respondentes_fw-la et_fw-la tale_n compatres_fw-la communiter_fw-la faciunt_fw-la quod_fw-la silij_fw-la svi_fw-la quos_fw-la de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la elevant_fw-la sint_fw-la in_o oratione_fw-la dominica_fw-la et_fw-la symbolo_fw-la instructi_fw-la et_fw-la alii_fw-la qui_fw-la discretionem_fw-la attigerant_fw-la dum_fw-la instruuntur_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la christi_fw-la ante_fw-la suum_fw-la baptismum_fw-la vocantur_fw-la catechumeni_fw-la hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la est_fw-la tam_fw-la necessarium_fw-la viatori_fw-la quod_fw-la christus_fw-la dicit_fw-la nicodemo_fw-la joh._n 3._o nisi_fw-la quis_fw-la renatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la ex_fw-la aqua_fw-la etc._n etc._n exit_fw-la tanta_fw-la itaque_fw-la authoritate_fw-la fidei_fw-la scripturae_fw-la sunt_fw-la fideles_fw-la generaliter_fw-la baptizati_fw-la et_fw-la ordinavit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la quod_fw-la quaelibet_fw-la persona_fw-la fidelis_fw-la iâ—_n necessitatis_fw-la articulo_fw-la poterit_fw-la baptizari_fw-la nec_fw-la refert_fw-la sive_fw-la immergantur_fw-la semel_fw-la vel_fw-la ter_z sive_z aquae_fw-la super_fw-la capita_fw-la sua_fw-la effundantur_fw-la sed_fw-la faciendum_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la loci_fw-la quem_fw-la quis_fw-la incolit_fw-la tam_fw-la in_o uno_fw-la ritu_fw-la legitimo_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o alio_fw-la quia_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la corporalis_fw-la baptizatio_fw-la sive_fw-la lotio_fw-la modicum_fw-la valet_fw-la nisi_fw-la adsit_fw-la lotio_fw-la mentis_fw-la per_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la à _fw-la peccato_fw-la originali_fw-la vel_fw-la actuali_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la principium_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la fide_fw-la quod_fw-la quicunque_fw-la rite_n baptizatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la baptismus_fw-la delet_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la peccatum_fw-la invenerit_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la baptizando_fw-la et_fw-la quia_fw-la ad_fw-la delationem_fw-la peccati_fw-la requiritur_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la et_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la fieri_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la pro_fw-la peccato_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la christi_fw-la ideo_fw-la dicit_fw-la apostolus_fw-la rom._n 6._o quicunque_fw-la baptizati_fw-la sumus_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la jesus_n in_o morte_fw-la ejus_fw-la baptizati_fw-la sumus_fw-la alith_n sed_fw-la dic_fw-la rogo_fw-la clarius_fw-la quomodo_fw-la christus_fw-la qui_fw-la tantum_fw-la odivit_fw-la signa_fw-la sensibilia_fw-la tantam_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la salvationis_fw-la posuit_fw-la in_o hujusmodi_fw-la lotione_fw-la videtur_fw-la enim_fw-la derogare_fw-la divinae_fw-la liberalitati_fw-la atque_fw-la potentiae_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n intercedere_fw-la toto_fw-la merito_fw-la svo_fw-la atque_fw-la passione_n salvare_fw-la infantem_fw-la vel_fw-la adultum_fw-la fidelem_fw-la nisi_fw-la vetula_fw-la vel_fw-la alio_fw-la viante_fw-la baptizetur_fw-la communiter_fw-la infideli_fw-la similiter_fw-la delato_fw-la infante_n fidelium_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
of_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o it_o may_v be_v separate_v from_o it_o and_o hence_o be_v the_o papist_n noise_n against_o he_o 8._o say_v he_o as_o a_o further_a argument_n that_o he_o deny_v infant-baptism_n may_v appear_v because_o he_o do_v so_o vehement_o impugn_v confirmation_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o here_o we_o have_v full_a out_o of_o cochleus_n false_o again_o 2._o be_v all_o protestant_n against_o infant-baptism_n that_o be_v against_o the_o popish_a sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n what_o a_o prover_n be_v this_o man_n be_v dallaeus_n that_o have_v write_v so_o large_a a_o disputation_n of_o confirmation_n a_o anabaptist_n and_o the_o english_a nonconformist_n too_o 3._o but_o in_o very_a deed_n mr._n d.'s_n falsehood_n and_o wickliffs_n opinion_n for_o infant-baptism_n may_v very_o probable_o be_v gather_v from_o that_o not_o fifteen_o as_o he_o but_o fourteen_o chapt._n of_o confirmation_n for_o 1._o he_o reprehend_v the_o bishop_n for_o add_v so_o many_o ceremony_n to_o infant-baptism_n never_o blame_v their_o baptism_n itself_o 2._o he_o argue_v against_o confirm_v child_n as_o superfluous_a because_o the_o spirit_n be_v give_v in_o baptism_n itself_o &_o confirmatur_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la nostros_fw-la dicimus_fw-la regulariter_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la accipere_fw-la eo_fw-la ipso_fw-la quo_fw-la legitime_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la that_o be_v and_o it_o be_v hence_o confirm_v in_o that_o we_o say_v that_o our_o baptize_v one_o do_v regular_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o that_o or_o by_o that_o very_a thing_n that_o they_o be_v lawful_o baptize_v and_o he_o have_v before_o say_v that_o they_o be_v offer_v to_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n according_a to_o christ_n rule_n §_o 11._o after_o all_o this_o mr._n d._n add_v wickliffs_n opinion_n against_o popery_n to_o the_o number_n of_o 29._o but_o what_o all_o this_o be_v to_o the_o case_n of_o infant-baptism_n what_o man_n beside_o himself_o can_v tell_v but_o let_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o i_o will_v not_o have_v he_o too_o easy_o believe_v bitter_a adversary_n papist_n lest_o he_o forfeit_v the_o little_a relic_n of_o his_o own_o credit_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o wickliff_n be_v against_o enjoin_v the_o lords-prayer_n as_o he_o cit_v yea_o i_o will_v not_o have_v mr._n d._n come_v so_o near_o the_o papist_n yet_o as_o wickliff_n do_v how_o do_v he_o like_o such_o word_n as_o these_o trialog_n li._n 4._o c._n 22._o fol._n 138._o et_fw-la talis_fw-la est_fw-la triplex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la scilicet_fw-la militans_fw-la dormiens_fw-la &_o triumphans_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dormiens_fw-la est_fw-la praedestinati_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la patientes_fw-la that_o be_v there_o be_v such_o a_o threefold_a church_n the_o militant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n the_o triumphant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n be_v the_o predestinate_a suffering_n in_o purgatory_n and_o lib._n 2._o c._n 10._o see_v what_o he_o say_v of_o angel_n and_o adoration_n of_o they_o and_o c._n 11._o of_o angel_n office_n and_o their_o be_v virtual_o every_o where_o and_o what_o he_o say_v of_o king_n and_o matrimony_n quod_fw-la excedit_fw-la alia_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la etc._n etc._n li._n 4._o c._n 19_o 20._o fol._n 132_o 133._o nor_o will_v i_o say_v that_o omne_fw-la quae_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la de_fw-la necessitate_v eveniunt_fw-la as_o fol._n 120._o a._n or_o that_o deus_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la asinus_fw-la si_fw-la velit_fw-la ut_fw-la fol._n 90._o b._n one_o of_o the_o worst_a thing_n i_o like_v in_o wickliff_n be_v that_o he_o plunge_v himself_o into_o the_o deep_a school-subtlety_n or_o difficulty_n with_o less_o subtlety_n or_o diligence_n than_o the_o case_n require_v and_o than_o schoolman_n use_v and_o indeed_o i_o like_v not_o divers_a of_o his_o conclusion_n as_o lib._n 2._o c._n 14._o fol._n 41._o quod_fw-la deus_fw-la necessitat_fw-la creaturas_fw-la singulas_fw-la activas_fw-la ad_fw-la 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