fire and fagot for the same Howbeit they cannot for shame denie that their famous Bishops Boner of London Tunstall of Durham and Gardiner of Winchester wrote sharply against the vsurped and falsly challenged authoritie of the Bishoppe of Rome Who for all that were neuer termed turne-coates neither by your Popes nor by any of your crew the like I might say of your famous Doctor and Proctor maister Harding and of many others But no man is a turn-coate with you your cursed brood that turneth from the Gospell to your superstitious and Idolatrous Poperie Thirdly I affirme constantly though I glorie not in that behalfe that I neither am Parson Vicar or Curat though the shamelesse lying Libeller charge mee with ietting vp and downe like a cocke of courage vpon the dung-hil and of mine own parish neither did I euer to this day celebrate the holy Communion but the Popish Masse too often neither euer was I authorized by the lawes of our English church to doe it Howbeit I was authorized in time of need where I taught the schoole to reade the common prayers of the Church But all that I did in that behalfe had an ende within the terme of one onely yeare which being true as it is most true indeede I must needes tell our shamelesse Libeller that hee is a shamelesse and impudent lyar Let him remember that a faithfull witnesse will not lie as also that God will destroy them that speake lyes This for the second lye 3 Our shameles lying Libeller telleth his readers that Bels bookes haue long since receiued their answere Marrie Syr he by by addeth a merie iest by way of correction in these expresse words but the answere hath beene hitherto suppressed vpon iust occasion and in another place he telleth vs another like merry iest for he seemes to be the Popes owne iester that fiue Bookes are written against my Motiues and my Survey of Poperie and to giue a grace to his tale he addeth that this supposed answere was finished fiue yeares agoe here is a most cozening legierdemain Here the Iesuites play their parts and shew themselues not onely egregious lyars and most cursed deceiuers but also as the priests write of them the most wicked men that liue vpon the earth it was not without great cause that the learned Papists in France published a booke against them which they named the Iesuites Catechisme in which booke shew at large that the further a Iesuite goes the louder he lyes An other booke intituled the Franke discourse affirmeth constantlie that the Iesuits neuer harboured in their heartes any other proiect but the subuersion of States disauthorizing of Magistrates seducing of subiects from their allegeance The aforenamed Catechisme saith in another place that the whole processe of Iesuits is nothing else but a particular cozening of our priuate families and a generall villanie of all the countries where they inhabite Now sir that we may the better perceiue the legierdemain of this cozening companion impudent Sycophant and shamelesse Libeller who like a deceitfull Iugler tucketh vp his sleeues layeth open his hands before our eyes and maketh a pretence of the plainest dealing that can be vsed we must call to our remembrāce what a brother of his E. O or the selfe same Robert Parsons if ye will told vs aboue three yeares agoe viz. that the confutation of my Bookes was then vndertaken and to bee published if it should bee thought expedient This is a matter of great importance and therefore will I make rehearsall of his owne wordes These are they as they came from his own forge pen To these former he speaketh of two very famous writers M. Doctor Sutcliffe and M. Willet I was once determined to haue adoyned a reformed brother of theirs one Thomas Bell natiue of Rascall in Yorkeshire who since his last illumination hath published certaine bookes against the Catholique Church vaunteth mightily and with insolent words braueth all Seminaries But I altered my purpose partly vpon other considerations but especially because the confutation of his worthy works is already vndertakē to be published if it shall bee thought necessarie Thus writeth E. O or Robert Parsons the brasen faced Iesuit whom we now know right well Out of these wordes of these two Iesuits as they would seeme but both are one onely indeed euē Robert Parsons a most notorious cozening trick is offered to our considerations For the detector marke well my wordes telleth vs that the confutation of my bookes when he published his Libel was but vndertaken by his fellowes that is to say it was then concluded amongst his brethren that my Bookes should bee answered Nowe the supposed answere to my Bookes being then at the most but in fieri not in facto esse as the Schooles terme it viz. being at that time but in hand or in doing at the most and not done or finished indeed Nay it was but then resolued amongst them that some answere should bee made vnto my Bookes And therefore saith Parsons the detector that hee was once determined to haue said somthing against my books but hearing that his fellowes were about the same matter he altered his purpose Well this detection was published but in the yeare 1602. let the time be remembred Nowe sir the fore-runner singeth another song and affirmeth desperately but to his vtter shame and confusion that forsooth my Bookes were answered fiue yeares agoe And least some should obiect against him that it seemes otherwise because no man can see them reade them or heare of them hee to preuent that obiection telleth vs that the answere is suppressed and vpon iust occasion stayed from the publication Because indeede there is no such answere in Rerum natura or else which is worse when they had well viewed their said answer it seemed so deformed and ill fauoured in their eyes that they were ashamed to publish it Let vs put together these two seueral assertions Out of the forerunner wee haue it affirmed for a truth such a truth euer vnderstand as is currant amongst the Iesuits that my bookes my Motiues and Suruey were answered fiue yeares agoe that is to say almost three whole yeares before the answere was begunne For the answere was finished saith the forerunner fiue yeares agoe viz. An. 1599. and the same answere was but vndertaken in the yeare 1602. as the detector telleth vs. These Iesuits their asseuerations are much like to Sampsons Foxes That is to say their tailes are tied together but their heads and mindes are farre asunder So then this must needes be the conclusion that my bookes were answered fiue yeares agoe and yet vnanswered two yeares agoe This in my conceit is not onely a Riddle but a plaine miracle Yet such a miracle vnderstand as the Iesuits wrought vpon Sebastian the late King of Portingall of which miracle I haue written
elsewhere more at large couple these Iesuits by their tailes for their heades and wits can neuer meete Well all the world may see by this their dealing that they haue published the best answere they had in store and are at their wits end what to say or write turning themselues this way that way and euery way by cozening lying iugling by what other meanes they possibly can deuise how to stay the outcries of the people and their popish vassals for beeing so long silent touching the answere of my books Alas alas who seeth not the miserie and nakednesse of the late hatched Romish Religion to what impudent desperate and damnable shifts are the Papists driuen for the defence thereof how are they not ashamed to confesse to the whole world that they haue beene buzzing about the answere of my Bookes almost the space of sixe whole yeares and that when the answere was framed after their best maner they haue suppressed the same for the space of fiue yeares These are the expresse words of the Fore-runner Bels bookes haue long since receiued their answere though vpon iust occasion it hath hitherto bin suppressed yet shortly viz. ad Calendas Graecas by Gods grace to bee set foorth Thus writeth our shamelesse Fore-runner By whose words it is apparāt to al the world that my bookes are this day vnanswered albeit it hath been auouched againe and againe with open mouthes yea audaciously affirmed to my face that their answere was abroad For no Papist may reade either my books or any other bookes against poperie without a speciall licence from the Pope himselfe For if all were permitted to reade thē the Pope would soone haue but a small company in this kingdome of England Yet the wiser sort I hope will borrow a dispensation for the safegard of their soules For O miserie of all miseries seeing they may not reade my bookes they must beleeue what their Maisters tell them to wit that this Fore-runner hath answered me gallātly Although he hath confuted himselfe vnawares when he saith the answere is yet to bee published and that that which he hath done is but a taste When the Iesuits and Seminarie-priests consulted with Garnet their Prouinciall what course was best to be takē in hand that my books might be answered because their silence in that behalfe was very dāgerous vnto their Pope poperie the father Iesuit hauing on his cappe of consideration answered very peremptorily though neither clarkely nor honestly that they must either not meddle with the matter at all or els deale rather with my person then with my doctrine yet he addeth very grauely these words Neuerthelesse for this matter as you shal all agree For I doubt not but so many such will see what is best Where we haue to learne by the way in perpetuam reimemoriam that not onely Iesuit or Seminarie-priest writeth against mee but euen the whole broode tagge ragge haue bēt their bowes to shoote their arrowes at me For though one odde cōpanion be singled out to take the quarrell in hād yet is the same fellowe garded and assisted with the ioynt counsel aduise iudgement helpe of all the rest Alas alas poore answere how art thou turmoiled with these shamelesse cozening Iesuits after they haue spent 5. or 6. whole years in consultation about an answer after they haue employed other 5 or 6. yeares with all might maine to giue thee a being in the end for al that thy beeing is so vglie so vnsightly so deformed so euilshapen euery way that themselues are ashamed on thy behalfe and thererfore haue they kept the 5. whole years if we may trust thē vnder a Pipkin Their meaning peraduenture is to keepe them from sunne-burning They haue learned saith our fore-runner by some of iudgement that not any was thought necessarie But is this possible trow wee doth not the Iesuite Garnet their prouinciall tell vs that they were both many and very wise I wote hee doth so wee haue heard his owne words Alas alas that so many will be caried away with your foolish vaine ridiculous and late vp-start Romish religion were all your Iesuits their Iesuited vassals with your fathers the secular priests so sottish so doltlesse and so senselesse noddies that they could not for the space of fiue whole years perceiue vnderstand penetrate the nature of the subiect against which they bent their force and might and tooke so great paines so many years for answering the same must the iudgement of some few stay them from publishing that answer which they tooke in hand with the consent of al or at least of the wiser sort that answer I say vpon which they had bestowed so much time so great paines studie No no this is but your vsual kind of cozenage old legierdemain for you tel vs that it must be published shortly And for the better credite of your report you tel vs the number of the books the particular contēts of the same Touching the nūber the Fore-runner saith they are 5. But the man is so swift in running especially in lying that I dare not for my life giue any credite to his words Well for the number I must receiue when I can catch them 5 for 2. Here is great aduantage encrease it seemes they would make me a pettie Vsurer But I thanke God I haue published one whole booke against that subiect for the contents vou shall heare them in due time order Our Fore-runner auoucheth audaciously but with lying lippes after his wonted maner that he wil take the paines to view oueral my bookes which came forth after my Motiues suruey But he faileth aswel in the naming as he doth in the performing In the naming because he maketh mention only of the hunting of the romish Foxe of the golden Ballance of the downfal of popery as for the Anatomie of popish tyrāny hee durst not so much as once name it their hearts pant so oftē as they remēber it I haue in that booke so anatomized them and so pourtraied them in their best beseeming colours as all the world may behold with all facilitie their murders their thefts their cozenage their cogging their lying their iugling their tyrannie their counterfeite miracles and other their manifold and vnspeakable villanous knauerie al which I haue sincerely collected out of the bookes of their owne deare brethren the secular priestes Which my collection I haue beene am and euer shall be ready during life to iustifie vpon the perill of my life against any Iesuit or Iesuited Papist whosoeuer that shall dare to encounter me and to cast me his gauntlet vpon the like perill for the due tryall of the truth thereof Shame and confusion must needes befall them for not accepting this challenge seeing sundrie yeares are now expired since it was made and published In the performance because he saith Ne gry quidem
chapter I haue handled two thirty articles of dissentions amongst the Papists all which I haue proued by the testimonies of very learned and famous Popish writers among the which 32. articles this rouing ranging Iesuitical Libeller can find but this one for his purpose In this very same book being the first that euer I published in print against thē I haue impugned battered to the ground ten special articles of popish fayth religion First I haue shewed the insufficiency blasphemy and absurdities of popish pardons Secondly that the Pope both may erre and hath erred de facto not only as a priuate person in priuate opinion but euen as Pope and publike person and that in his iudiciall and definitiue sentence Thirdly that general Councels in these latter daies are nothing els but a meere mockery and sophisticall subtility to deceiue Gods people withall Fourthly that the Popes dispensations are wicked licentious and intolerable Fiftly that Kings are aboue Popes that their power royall is independant that they are subiect to none but to God alone Sixtly that popish dissention is of matters most important and incredible to such as are not wel acquainted with their books I haue set down 32. in number of their dissentions Seuenthly that the writings of the ancient fathers are to bee receiued with great reuerence yet so as we acknowledge them to be men to haue their errours and to bynd vs to their authorities no further then they accord and agree to the holy scriptures Eyghtly that all things necessary for our saluation are contayned in the holy scriptures and that popish vnwritten traditions are so vncertaine as the best learned Papists cannot agree therein Ninthly that after this life there is neyther merit nor demerit nor satisfaction to be made and that the bookes of the Machabees cannot establish popish purgatory Tenthly that the specificall enumeration and confession of all our sinnes is not onely not commaunded by the Scriptures but flat repugnant to the same impossible to be accomplished by the power of man All which poynts and articles I haue proued not only by scriptures authorities and reasons but euen by the expresse testimonies of the Popes owne deare Doctors and best learned Papists A demonstration so forceable against the Papists as nothing can be more This book was extant in print about 12. yeres ago The Iesuits haue bene long fiddling buzzing about some answere to this my other books yea they haue many yeres ago promised the world that they would speedily frame an answere to the same but while the grasse growes as the cōmon saying is the horse dyes My selfe am now wel stricken in yeres by the course of nature shortly to go the way of al flesh They are so nettled so pricked and goared and their religion so battred with their owne best learned Doctors most skilfull Proctors that gladly they would satisfy their Iesuited Popelings wipe away that discredit which hangeth at their beards for which end they vse many coozening tricks iugglings legierdemains so to stay the out-cries of the people vntill I be dead and then by your fauour they will come vpon me with good speed for Canis mortuus non mordet But before that day my life I gage in that behalfe they dare not for their guts publish any direct and full answere to my bookes I say any direct and full answere because to snatch here a piece and there a piece is no answere at all but a meere toy for yong children to play withall Secondly this silly dissention which our Libeller Robert Parsons that honest man if yee will hath picked out of all the two and thirty in number as that with which hee thought himselfe best able to grapple doeth vtterly confound him and strike him dead I proue it first because he graunteth as much as I desire or affirme for these are his wordes Wee willingly graunt it bee it so what then This forsooth you graunt the dissention among your best Doctours which is all that I tooke vpon me to proue O sweet Iesus who seeth not these Iesuites so besotted and blinded with malice that they cannot perceyue their owne dotage They impugne that in one sentence which they graunt in another Who will not perswade himselfe that my booke of Motiues being the first I writ is most sincerely and soundly penned No man can but doe it the reason is euident because all that the malicious Iesuite durst impugne who no question made choyce of his best aduantage is by his owne confession as true as the trueth it selfe but sayth he it is no dissention in matters of fayth Fye fye fye Popery cannot stand vnlesse it bee supported and vnderpropped with slaunderous lyes He would haue his Reader to beleeue that I affirmed the dissention to be a matter of fayth which if I had done as I did not yet would it nothing serue his turne This is one notorious lye that I affirmed it to bee a matter of fayth Where I must needes put him in mind of his coozening trickes in suppressing the name of the Pope with c. which he did lest the Reader should bee dismayed when hee should perceyue the Popes owne Doctours yea and Pope Adrian himselfe whose name hee likewise suppresseth as hee did the name of Pope Gregorie to withstand the Pope and to tell him flatly that hee was a man and therefore both might erre and erred indeede egregiously Loe Pope Adrian with sundry learned Papists taught this doctrine That none but Bishops could be the true Ministers of Confirmation Pope Gregorie with other learned Papists taught the contrary doctrine and put the same in execution Pope Gregorie Alexander Paludanus and Bellarminus hold it for a constant doctrine that Confirmation ministred per Sacerdotem simplicem by a single Priest which is no Bishop so he haue the Popes dispensation is a true Sacrament of their popish church But Pope Adrian a very learned man indeede and Durandus a famous Schoole-doctor hold Confirmation so ministred to be no Sacrament at all If this be not a dissention of importance and touching popish fayth let the indifferent Reader iudge for the silly vulgar people must beleeue that their children being confirmed after the popish maner haue receyued a Sacrament and yet sayth Pope Adrian and Bishop Durand that it is no Sacrament at all I therefore conclude that the Libeller is a notorious lyar and that the doctryne contayned in my Motiues is so sound true and sincere as no Iesuite or Iesuited Papist can by any meanes gaynsay any thing contayned in the same CHAP. II. Of the marriage of Priests ABout three yeres agoe Robert Parsons that scurrilous Libeller traytrous Iesuite who will affirme or deny any thing as his owne deare brethrē the secular Priests write of him published a scādalous rayling libell which he termed a Detectiō c. in which libel he findeth himself grieued for the
books which I haue written against their Popes their late Romish Religiō for which respect he frameth himselfe this way that way and euery way to find out some fit matter against me so to be auēged of me At the last he hath stūbled on a silly so supposed contradiction in my book of the Suruey of Popery This Detectiō was written published in the yere 1602. my Suruey in the yeere 1596. so that my Suruey had thē bin in their hands 6. whole yeres howbeit after so many yeeres they can find nothing at all in it sauing one onely contradiction falsely so supposed and yet the seeking out of it hath so troubled them that they were enforced to huddle vp and mingle together three seueral places far distant one from another which supposed contradiction if it were as they falsely imagine would bee too deare of one quatryne If they could haue picked out of the sayd Suruey or my Motiues or my Hunting of the Romysh Fox all which three were published long before their Detection any one thing of moment they would not for very shame haue published in a printed book such a silly obiection as this Now in the yere 1605. an other Libeller in his Forerunner which runnes as speedily as a Snayle after the truth hath ripped vp the same quarrell againe so to be auenged vpon the poore booke for the masters sake which booke they found so fortified with strong Bulwarks so inuironed with inuincible Rampiers that neyther the brazen-faced Detector nor this shamelesse Libeller was able to picke out any fitter matter for them to worke vpon then one onely silly so supposed obiection I say so supposed because it is none indeede as shall God willing be proued out of hand In one place of my Suruey I affirme the Bishops of Rome to haue bin very godly men till S. Austens time and long after him In another place for all that I doe charge Pope Siricius to haue published wicked doctrine and in the third place I charge Pope Sozimus to haue falsified the Councell of Nice This is all that our two Iesuites the one after the other can say against my Suruey after their many yeres studies how to pick a quarrell against the same They are neither content that I cōmend their good Bishops of old time nor yet that I set before their eyes the bad dealing of their Bishops of later dayes A man would thinke that they would rather haue imployed their wits industry and learning to haue purged their Popes frō most hainous sinnes imputed to them viz. from the publishing of false doctrine and from the falsifying of the famous generall Councell of Nice These matters these most execrable sinnes they doe not once touch but smoothely passe them ouer with deepe silence and yet as the cōmon saying is Qui tacet consentire videtur The trueth is as euery child may easily perceiue that the crimes obiected and imputed to their Popes cannot be defended nor yet any other matter poynt or article of doctrine or maners which I haue published against the late Romish religion Well since it will bee no otherwise let vs view what they say of the supposed contradiction I replyed in my Counterblast to the answere of E. O. or to Robert Parsons where by sixe seuerall answeres I shewed the supposed contradiction to bee none at all It shal now suffice to alledge one of them which is the answere of their Cardinall Bellarmine in another like subiect viz. that it is the maner of the scripture so to speak of many as of all And therfore did I very modestly honestly commend the olde Bishops of Rome for very godly men because sundrie of them were holy Martyrs about the number of 30. after S. Peter and diuers others were good men taught the same doctrine which S. Peter had done afore them yet our silly Libeller beholding as in a glasse of cristall not his owne shame and confusion only but of his brethren the Iesuits of the whole rabble of Papists in like maner to bee concluded by the generall iudgement of the whole world vnlesse they did answere the bookes which I haue published against them and their superstitious idolatrous and plaine Antichristian Romish religion deemed it the best course for himselfe for the safegard of the life of their mouse-eaten and rotten Popery to let passe vntouched my Reply to Parsons his fellow Iesuite and to set abroach some new foolish and odde conceit so to keepe the peoples heads occupied for their only drift and shift is this to seduce the people with coozening trickes of their counterfeit legierdemain as they dealt with Sebastian the late King of Portugall Well what saith he Forsooth that I haue charged the Iesuite E. O. or if ye will haue it so Robert Parsons to be a lyar This is my answere First that I see not how I can offend in calling him a lyar to whō the zealous Papists the secular Priests giue this Epitheton as being his proper and peculiar Badge that hee hath a brazen face and will affirme or deny any thing Secondly that it is most true which I sayd of him viz. that hee set downe his owne wordes in stead of mine and with lying lips affirmed them to be mine thus doth he write Pope Siricius as Thomas Bell affirmeth was seduced by Satan published wicked doctrine and taught the flat doctrine of the deuill These are the expresse words of E. O. in his Detection But these are my expresse words in my Suruey After that Christ had graunted marriage for all men appoynting all such to vse it for an wholsome medicine as wanted the gift of continency after that S. Paul had pronounced freely marriage to bee lawfull in all sorts of men after that the Apostles had decreed that neither Bishops Priests nor Deacons should leaue the company of their wiues vnder pretence of Religion after that many holy Bishops Priests Deacons had liued laudably in the church and had the help of holy wedlock aboue three hundred eightie and fiue yeres all which I haue already proued then one Siricius aduaunced to the Popedome in the yere three hundred eighty fiue seduced by Satan published wicked doctrine and prohibited marriage as an vnlawful thing So then E. O. omitting my wordes and prohibited marriage as an vnlawfull thing and placing these words for them and taught the flat doctrine of the deuill declared himselfe to bee a lyar and the child of the deuill let the Reader iudge No English Iesuite or Iesuited Papist in Christendome this is a big word dare send me a full direct answere to those 2. chapters of Priestes marriage in my booke of Suruey I meane the 3. and 4. chapters of the third part and make due tryall of his answere when he hath done I dare and redare all English Iesuites and Iesuited Papists whosoeuer and whersoeuer to
vnto Bel. And why I pray you doth he desire and wish that all his books had bene burnt and that none of thē had escaped to bring newes to Bel doubtlesse because his own conscience condemned him for that silly patched answere which hee had framed against Bell which he knew himselfe very vnable to defend And for that end if all the Copies had beene consumed vp of Vulcan he would haue rested in peace and neuer haue bickered with Bel at all Marry seeing all the Copies could no way bee kept from Bels knowledge hee thought it a matter of great consequence pollicie to inuent some cozening trick point of legierdemain by help wherof he might set such a braue face on the matter as though he were innocent and no way to be touched This is the first point which I haue thought good to intimate to the Reader The Libeller in one place of his first Fore-runner telleth vs that wee shall haue more choyse of wares at the next Mart and in another place he affirmeth that by the next Poste we shall know more of his meaning Now sir both the next Poste is come and the next Mart is past and yet haue wee receiued no other wares nor any further meaning saue that onely which is already touched The Libeller therefore must perforce either confesse that this cozening tricke and point of Legierdemaine was the thing which hee intended or else that he is a notorious lyar Vtrūhorum mavis accipe gentle Fore-runner This is the second point which I haue obserued for the good of the Reader The Libeller in his second Fore-runner telleth his Reader that vnlesse I stay my selfe from answering him vntill I heare another manner of peale rung of fiue Bels hee will commend mee to my friends for a wrangler and contemne me for a captious cauelling companion Oh sweete Iesus what maner of people are our English Iesuits and other Iesuited Popelings My Bookes haue beene in their hands many yeares they haue volued and reuolued them they haue read and perused them againe and againe they haue tossed and turned them ouer and ouer they haue a long time borne all simple Papists in hands that my books haue bene answered many yeares agoe To which most impudent and false assertion the sillie ignorant Papists who dare not once reade or turne ouer one leafe of any booke which looketh awry against the Pope or popish doctrine haue giuē such credite that they haue audaciously affirmed to my face that my bookes were answered by the Iesuites Although such is the force of truth the libeller both in his first second forerunner cōfesseth plainly without all dissimulation which is not his vsuall maner that albeit my bookes haue fiue yeares agoe if his tongue were not a lyar I would belieue it receiued their answere yet is that answere hitherto suppressed vpon iust occasion Now if you demand of me what occasion that is I knowe not doubtlesse how to answere you more truly then in this plaine and simple maner viz. That either they haue no answere at all in store or else that it is such a sillie one that they are ashamed to publish it or at the least that the answere which they speake of is meere deepe silēce And so I grant willingly that my books haue receiued their answere in very deede For as they haue hitherto answered me with silence so I thinke they mean to do in future times vnlesse perhaps they purpose to publish some sillie counterfeit answere after it shall please God to call me to his mercie and to take me out of this vale of mortalitie For indeed they haue no reall answere in store as I haue proued out of their own bookes which the indifferent Reader will perceiue with all facilitie in due peruse of this my present discourse This is the third point which the gentle Reader is to obserue The Libeller telleth his Reader if hee may beleeue him that in this spirituall fight we haue the aduantage of the ground and they both sunne and wind against them And the Iesuits with their Iesuited Popelings doe often complaine of the inequalitie of time But it is a false complaint and wholy swaruing from the truth in this present case of writing publishing of bookes For first they are many and my selfe but one Secondly they either al or the best learned amongst them haue consulted and laid their heades and wits together how and in what sort to answere me as I haue already proued in this short discourse But my selfe haue consulted with none saue onely with God alone how or in what sort to writ against thē as I protest vpō my saluatiō Thirdly they haue better store of bookes though they complaine of want therein so to saue their credite if it would be then I either haue or am able any way to procure I proue it many waies First because the Iesuites in other countries haue most excellent Libraries are indeed many of them very profound learned men By meanes whereof our English Iesuites are able to write and publish moe bookes in three moneths then my self can do in three whole yeares if the truth were on their sides For their father generall hath all the Iesuites in the world at his cōmand who must lay their heades and wits together to doe at a becke whatsoeuer hee shall designe to be done Hence commeth it that our English Iesuites haue written and published this day doe write publish bookes at their good pleasure But the truth doth and will preuaile maugre their malice and in spight of the diuell Secondly the Iesuits haue all the Libraries of all the Papists in this land to vse them at their pleasures and commaunds Thirdly the Iesuits can command the purses of the ablest and richest Papists in this kingdome for the prouision and buying of all such bookes as they desire Fourthly they can haue what bookes they will to be sent out of other countries to them Fiftly they haue such store of Gold and mony that as the secular Priests their brethren write of them the Iesuite Garnets pompe expēces amounted yearely to fiue hundred pounds at the least The extraordinarie excesse of Iohn Gerard that gallant and swaggering Iesuite was valued at an higher rate then the priests could for shame expresse the horses of the same Gerard were many and of no small price He had two Geldings in a Gentlemans stable at 30. pounds a Gelding besides other elsewhere and horses of good vse When he was Prisoner in the Clinke he rode into the countrie at his own pleasure oh grieuous imprisonment and he maintained two horses in the towne with seruants in them continually The apparell of the Iesuite Oldcorne though but a pettie Iesuite was seldome lesse worth then thirtie or fortie poundes Beside hee had eight good geldings at one and the selfe same time Another Iesuite had a girdle hangers at
or to my Survey or to any other of my bookes written against them and their pâ—tâ—â—ed Hotch-potch Religion Yet this last moneth of Februarie one shamelesse and namelesse Iesuite hath published not a direct and full answere but a Fore-runner forsooth against mee In which Pamphlet hee turneth himselfe this way that way and euery way saue onely to the marke at which hee neuer aymeth He perceiueth right well that many of the Popelings beginne to stagger at their doctrine and Romish faith because they haue beene so long silent and dare not answere my Bookes For the procuring of which mortall wound he telleth them of a most rare and soueraigne medicine which the Iesuits haue brought out of the new found worlde viz. That my Bookes were answered fiue yeare agoe and that the answere is suppressed hitherto for speciall vnknowne causes but must shortly come abroad Hereof more at large in the proper place Now so it is most excellent King that the Fore-runner would seeme desirous though indeed he desireth nothing lesse to haue a publique dispute and so to fight the combate with me Viua voce and therefore doth hee challenge me daring and redaring me to the same Who if he knew how willingly gladly I am ready to cast him my Gauntlet would doubtlesse vse his words more sparingly in this behalfe In regard hereof most gracious and dread Soueraigne I now prostrate vpon my knees doe most humblie beseech your most excellent Maiestie that it will please your Highnes of your most Princely fauour to graunt your Royall licence and safe conduct for any English Iesuite or Iesuited Papist in the whole worlde that shall haue courage to appeare for the true performance of the challenge in such manner as is in this replie expressed Oh most gratious Soueraigne I am joyfull when I remember this future combat I wish in my heart that it may bee effected with all expedition for I confidentlie perswade my selfe in our Lorde Iesus that his Name shall thereby bee glorified your Maiestie highlie honoured the Papists stricken dead and all true hearted English subiects receiue vnvnspeakeable endlesse comfort If it shall fall out otherwise and that I shall not be found euen in your Maiesties iudgement to haue the victorie and vpper hand I will be content to loose my life for my iust reward as one that hath dishonoured your Maiestie and the cause The Almightie blesse your Maiestie with a long and most happie raigne vpon earth and with eternall glorie in the world to come Amen From my studie this eighteenth of March 1605. Your Maiesties most humble subiect Tho. Bels. How faults escaped in the first Booke may be corrected by the Reader THe Booke for expedition sake was committed to three seuerall Printers by reason whereof the Pages could not bee distinguished with numbers Hence it commeth that the Reader can not so easily find out the faults corrected as he may in some other Bookes Howbeit if hee shall marke the Booke and the Chapters and reckon the Pages from the Chapter vntil he come to that page line in which the fault is named he can not but haue his desire in that behalfe How faults of the first Booke escaped in the Printing are to be corrected In the first Chapter seuenth page and first line the word but must be added before the word here Chap. 1. page 9. line 1. the word worlde must be added before the word well Chap. 2. P. 4. l. 23. the word and must be taken away Chap. 2. P. 4. l. 6. the word were must followe the word and. Chap. 2. P. 5. l. 24 the word they must be added before the word shew Chap. 2. P. 6. l. 14. the word two must be added for the word three Chap. 2. p. 10. l. 20. the word one must goe before the word onely Chap. 2. p 11. l. 5. the word them must be made the chap. 2. p. 11. l. 15. the word doltlesse must be made doltish Chap. 2. p. 13. l. 19. many words are superfluous Chap. 3. p. 2. l. 20. for nor reade not Chap. 3. p. 4. l. 8. for soule in the margent reade soyle chap. 4 p. 2. l. 10. for discourse read discouerie In the Caveat p. 1. l. 16. for OperaepertiuÌ„ reade Operaepretium Ibid. p. 7. l. 20. How faults escaped in the second Booke are to be corrected Chap. 2. p. 2. l. 12. for obiection reade contradiction Chap. 3. page foure l. three and thirtie for so reade Saint Chap. 3. p. 2.23 for his reade the. chap. 7. in the 4. reason for dialogue reade decalogue Some other faults there are but the Reader may very easily discerne them A Table containing the principall contents of all the Chapters Chapters of the first booke Chap. 1. Of the Methode of the discourse with the reason of the same Chap. 2. Of the Libellers notorious vntruthes lyes and slaunders Chap. 3. Of the libellers foolish arrogaÌ„t challenge of the name Chap. 4. Of the Romish hotch-potch Religion with the reason Chapters of the second booke Chap. 1. Of dissention among Papists Chap. 2. Of the marriage of Priests Chap. 3. Of a terrible monster without both head and foote Chap. 4. Of Card. Bellermines opinion and doctrine Chap. 5. Of the condigne merite of workes Chap. 6. Of S. Austens opinion touching involuntarie motions Chap. 7. Of Pope Martins dispensation THE POPES Funerall The first Booke of certaine ridiculous scandalous slaunderous godlesse shamelesse and senselesse extravagants vttered and made salable for a Souse by a most impudent brasen-faced brainelesse and namelesse Libeller in the behalfe of the whole rabble and most cursed crewe of English traiterous Iesuites and others their Iesuited and deuoted vassals CHAP. I. Of the Methode obserued in this discourse together with the reason of the same THe abiect and forlorne cursed crew of Iesuites who by the verdict iudgement and testimonie of the popish Secular Seminarie-priests are notorious lyars coozeners theeues traitours and most wicked men vpon earth feeling them selues pricked galled and deepely goared with the strong reasons euident proofes irrefragable testimonies and invincible demonstrations laid open before the eyes of my readers throughout all my bookes as most strong forts towers stony rockes harder then any flint enuironed on euery side with well fortified bulwarkes rampiers especially seeing and with inward sighs and sobs perceiuing their Pope and Poperie to be turned vpside downe and with deadly woundes to lye a bleeding and all this to be verified by the constant verdict doome of their most famous best learned best approued popish writers thereupon bestirring themselues this way that way euery way like mad-men hopping and skipping in the Alpes and as vagarant persons vpon the stonie Rockes of mount Synai seeking passages but finding none haue at the length called to mind and bethought themselues how they might cunningly though shamefully falsly most damnably dazel the eyes and steale away the hearts of my readers
viz. to propine vnto them a cup of dangerous Letharge which pittifully annoyeth the power sensitiue almost vtterly quencheth right reasō that so they shuld neither be able to discerne truth from falshood nor to behold the bright light shining cleerly before their faces On the one side it grieued them aboue measure vexed them at their very hearts to heare continuall out-cryes against them for the non-answering of my bookes On the other side it wounded galled and deepely goared their cōsciences that they were not able to withstād or gainsay my strong reasons euident proofes inuincible demonstrations Being thus perplexed and at their wits end what to say or do they resolued to publish a counterfeit and pretensed answere rather then none at all so to stay in some sort at the least the outcryes exclamations of the people against them And to the ende their couzonage and legierdemaine should not be espyed if that were a thing possible to bee done and effected their scurrilous Libell which containeth onely fiue Chapters in all is fraught with nothing else for the foure first but with notorious lyes antichristian speeches vain bragges railing words couzoning trickes ridiculous asseverations most slaunderous and false accusations Yea of fiue partes one only is reserued for their pretensed answere to my booke I say of their pretensed answere because all the Iesuits or at the least the best of them aswell beyond the seas as in this kingdome gaue their best aduise for the effecting thereof Now if any man demaund the cause why they bestir themselues so much waste so much pretious time spend so many Chapters in things meerely impertinent and plaine by-matters mee thinketh I can not answere that question more fitly then by relating their owne words in their scurrilous and shamelesse Libell albeit by them intended to an other purpose These are their expresse words If he be such a sincere writer as he protesteth so consideratiue and respectiue in the penning of his bookes that no suspition of misreporting or corruptiō can be iustly fastned vpon him then doth it euidently followe that we haue great dissentions in matters of Faith and that our Doctors bee the bane of Catholique doctrine and then no maruell if hee make challenge vppon challenge and remaine vnanswered when as not onely our enemies but also those that we take for our friends and rely vpon stand in open field against vs and haue as it were sworne our destruction Thus writeth the Libeller vnder which name I euer vnderstand the Iesuites and all Iesuited persons whose heads wits concurred in deuising the same Againe a little after he hath these words the matter as he handleth it seemeth so odious that some no question condemne vs highly vpon his report and my selfe was since the comming forth of his booke assaulted with this very question so markeable it is in euery mans eye Thus prateth the godlesse Libeller euen to his owne shame and confusiō though vnwittingly Out of whose words I note sundry very necessarie memorable points for the true comfort of the Christian Reader First that of force and meere necessitie it must be graunted that the Papists haue great dissentions among them euen in matters of Faith Secondly that their very best doctors be the bane of the Pope and the Popes religion Thirdly that it is no maruaile that I make challenge vpon challenge and stil remaine vnanswered Fourthly that those doctors whom they take for their friends and doe relie vpon stand in open field against them as if they were their sworne enemies Fiftly that many Papists begin to stagger and to stand in doubt of the popish Religion and that by reading of my bookes as by an Instrument vnder God in that behalfe Sixthly that the libeller himselfe hath bene assaulted with that which hath beene gathered out of my bookes Seuenthly that the doctrine deliuered in my books is verie markable in euery mans eye Blessed be our Lord God for all his mercies and fauours to this our Church of England Wee see here gentle Reader that the Papists generally euen the Iesuits and Seminarie-Priests begin to feare the ruine and downe-fall of Poperie One thing the Reader must heere remember that the first foure notes or obseruations are respectiue must be vnderstood conditionally viz. that if the Papists doe not confute my bookes effectually then must they all and euery of them perforce and of necessitie be truly verified of the papists of their popish religiō It therfore standeth the Papists vpon to answere me both directly and soundly for else destruction of necessitie must come vpon them and breake the necke of their Poperie This confession God be praised I haue by insoluble reasons and euident demonstrations extorted from their owne pennes But gentle Reader they will neuer answere my bookes till the worlds end because they cannot and consequently euen by their owne free confession which is to be admired Poperie must haue a downefal the sooner the better Amen the case is cleere and evident euen to euery child For they that haue bene buzzing about the answering of my bookes these many yeares and confesse freely withall that the life of their Poperie depends vppon the confutation of my bookes and thereupon haue assaid all meanes they could deuise haue no doubt made choyse of those small parcels with which they thought themselues most able to deale VVherein for al that they haue done nothing else indeede but onely laid open to the viewe of the world their great malice and extreame folly VVhich if I bee not deceiued euery indifferent Reader will affirme with mee so soone as hee hath perused this my briefe plaine discourse so briefe and succinct as none I thinke will deeme it tedious so sound and sincere as none can iustly and truly reproue it and so plaine facile and perspicuous as euery childe may vnderstand the same For if I doe not soundly pithily and effectually confute the Libeller yea euen turne him out of his skin I will be content and well pleased to lose my life for my paines And let the Reader thus perswade himselfe bcause euident reason conuinceth it to be so that if the Iesuits and Iesuited Papists are not able to make good against mee those sillie snatches and pieces of my bookes whereof themselues haue made the choyse that much lesse are they able to confute my whole workes No no they doe in effect confesse so much while they dare neither answere any one booke of all nor yet any one Chapter wholy heere and there an odde piece or sentence I protest vnto the gentle Reader that I partly blush on their behalfe Garnet the prouinciall of the Iesuits in England some yeares agoe was cōsulted with his aduise required that some course might be taken for the answering of my bookes because their silence in that behalfe brought no smal detriment to their Religion The good father hauing on
his Cappe of consideration answered right grauely though neither honestly nor yet Clarkely that they should either not meddle at all with that matter or else deale rather against my person then against my Doctrine This aduise as it seemeth hath now taken place For this Libeller fighteth with might and maine against my person but dealeth too too niggardly with my Doctrine I haue else-where made mention of this Garnets Letter where I made full rehearsall thereof Ad verbum and framed a direct answere to the same The great maister Iesuite Robert Parsons affirmed about three yeares agoe that the confutation of my worthy workes as he scornfully termeth them was vndertaken and to bee published if it should seeme necessarie Now Sir this most necessarie confutation which they haue been so many yeares buzzing about is published to the worlde Yet so sillie and so simple a thing as I cannot tell what to make of it or how to name it The foure first Chapters of this Libell I would let passe without answere if two causes did not vrge me thereunto because they containe nothing but meere by-matters and impertinent stuffe First for that the well affected Reader may make good vse thereof especially by helpe of my censure annexed to the same Secondly because wise Salomon aduiseth me to answere a foole according to his foolishnesse least he seeme wise in his own conceit I therefore purpose in God to reduce to certaine distinct heads and chapters the notorious lies vaine brags vnchristian slaunders and false accusations which the Libeller hath abruptly without all Eutaxia dispersed in euery page of the aforesaid Chapters so I thinke to enlarge his most filthy and most scurrilous Libell which else for the quantitie might be an Almanack But by the power of God I will handle the last Chapter cathauton ad amussim duly examining euery sentence period thereof to the very bottome so as no starting hole shall be left him to be a sanctuarie or refuge to hide his face The Libeller would seeme desirous to grapple with me but it appeareth farre otherwise by his dealing For what man in the world taking vpon him to answere my booke the downefal of Poperie would flye from the whole booke from euery article nay from euery main point ground and period thereof as one afraid once to touch the same and onely to snatch here and there a sentence of the least force to his witting none doubtlesse It is apparant to all the well all this notwithstanding I haue so mangled and maymed him with my dartes and so wounded him with my bullets that the scarres and markes will bee seene vpon him so long as he liueth in this world In his fift and last Chapter though he hath dealt very sparingly in answering those fewe sentences whereof he made his choyse I wil God willing so bicker skirmish and grapple with him as I shal neither leaue him one whole bone in his skin nor one tooth in his head nor yet one haire on his beard That done I will send him to his good maisters as a cur-dogge that barketh apace but cannot bite and as a beardlesse boy without haire on his face voide of all learning wit sense and reason that so hee may bring them newes of his good fortune VVhat I doe here promise I hope in God to performe the same in due season CHAP. II. Of the Libellers notorious vntruthes or to speake plaine English of his flat lyes THe first word of the title of his Libell the forerūner of Bels downfal implyeth a flat lye So forsooth to insinuate to his Readers that a filthy and huge fardell of lyes but small or no truth at all can be expected from his Penne. But how is this proued Thus. Forerunner must perforce be vnderstood either in respect of my person or else in respect of my booke If in respect of my person it is both impertinent to the matter in hand and is also a manifest and flat lye in his way of proceeding I proue it because in his iudgement I had my downefall when I renounced their late Romish Religion which I thanke God for it was many yeares agoe Againe this Libeller of his great charitie auoucheth desperately that long since a foule downefall brake the necke of my soule God forgiue mee my sinnes and saue the necke of his soule if it bee his holy will I feare no such causelesse curses but haue a firme and stedfast hope of my saluation in CHRIST IESVS If in respect of my booke it is also a flat lye because it is so farre from being a forerunner that it is a plaine aftercreeping and doth aunswere my booke with as much speede as one may driue a Snaile to Rome Thus much for his first lye Let vs proceede 2 The Libeller pleaseth himselfe aboue measure in calling mee a turne-coate and a patched minister This hee repeateth againe and againe in foure seuerall Pages My aunswere standeth thus First I most willingly confesse my selfe to bee a turne-coate in a godly sense and Christian meaning that is to say to haue turned from falshod to truth from vice to vertue from iniquitie to pietie and from sinne to a Godly Christian life Hee that disdaineth or shameth to bee a turne-coate in this sense shall neuer see Gods face in his Kingdome For as holy writte teacheth vs euerie where they that are the holiest of all sinne manie a time and therefore must they either repent and turne their coate of conuersation or else perish euerlastingly And as for mine owne turning my selfe freely confessed it in the first booke which I published and to reproach one for his sinnes and errors which he humbly acknowledgeth is not only against sincere christianitie but also against all modest humanitie Neither is it to the purpose or question in controuersie betweene vs. For it skilleth not what I am my selfe so the Doctrine bee sound which I deliuer But the want of an honest cause lacke of good grounds and reasons to defend your Poperie draweth you violētly to these foolish impertinent by matters Secondly as Peter denied Christ three times of infirmitie and as Paul persecuted Christs Church of ignorance and they both for all that found mercie and fauour with God for Christs sake so my selfe I trust and constantly beleeue who erred ignorantly in my yonger yeares at which time I carefully sought the truth but found it not haue attained remission of my sins according to mercie through faith in Christ Iesus S. Austin was a Manichee after that being a Catholick Bishop hee slipped into sundrie errors Petrus Martyr Martinus Bucerus reuerend Cranmer graue Latimer learned Ridley and many others were sometime Popish Priests and yet after that most singular Preachers ' and notable Champions of Christs holy Gospell But of these yee Papists make no reckoning albeit sundrie of them sealed their Doctrine with their blood and by the Papists burnt with
that we may in manner aforesaid grapple together If he refuse this condition so reasonable so iust so indifferent no remedie but I must come vpon him with a lawe case of Nouerint vniuersi Be it knowne vnto all men that the date of his learning is out his great and flowing courage daunted and drawne drie proclaime him contemptible and banckrout hauing broken with his own dependants and creditors and expose him for a iesting-stocke to all Christian people from generation to generation world without end Amen Againe in another place hee writeth thus the Minister braggeth and braueth others to disputation either by word or writing and like a desperate coward feareth not to fight with any prouided alwaies that they be far enough off and himselfe out of al daunger haec ille Then he telleth a long tale of the Coliar of Croyden of his brethren in Wisbich and of maister Wright reproaching me charging me with cowardnesse for that I went not to them To which vnseasoned challenge and insolent bragges I answere in this maner First that he is a coward who being challenged dareth not accept nor answere the same nor he that challengeth if he be readie to performe withall whatsoeuer is contained in his challenge And consequently that not my selfe am a coward but our Libeller all other English Iesuites and Iesuited Papists That they are cowards it is apparant to the world seeing they durst neuer to this day accept my challenge and offer made vnto them albeit I offered it at the publication of my first booke to be effected either in England or in any other part of Christendome This is so cleere and euident that our Libeller graunteth the same in these wordes was hee vnwilling to take so long a iourney No iust cause of any such suspition when hee affirmeth about the like businesses with a safe conduct to repaire into any part of Christendome Thus doth hee write Now let the indifferent Readers speake the truth whether my selfe or the Iesuites and Iesuited papists are truly termed cowardes I wonder before God I speake it that they are not ashamed thus to confound themselues and to murder their owne soules and bodies desperately and malitiously by lying slaundering and couzening trickes They giue manifest signes that they are giuen vp in reprobum sensum and become the children of perdition Is hee a coward that offereth to come into any part of Christendome vpon the safe conduct of any Christian king there to make trial of that which he hath written No doubtlesse no man in his right wits will say it Yet we see that our Libelber affirmeth both the one and the other No No their combes are cut their crests are falne they stand amazed with feare their spirits rampant are made couchant their doome will soone appeare Amen Secondly that the Libellers brethren in Wisbich and maister Wright in the Clinke if their courages had not failed them would haue accepted the challenge and haue requested that the trial might haue bene made heere in England but they had no such desire Againe the Iesuites might easily haue procured a safe conduct and so haue called me beyond the Seas And that done if I had refused to performe my challenge they might with reason haue exclaimed against me But seeing their courages failed them and that they went neuer about the matter I may with great reason both exclaime and declaime against them and truly tell them all that they are cowards indeede Thirdly seeing the Recusants in Yorke refused to talke with me it gaue me iust cause to suspect that the rest would haue done the like especially seeing none of them durst vndertake to answere the challenge Fourthly the best triall is to be made by writing the reasō is euidēt for sundry respects First because the Parties may better consider the matter and lay downe their conceits more orderly Secondly because many men of good vnderstanding haue weake memories Thirdly because sundry for their present wit and excellent memorie are farre ouermatches extempore for many learned men who indeede are better learned then themselues multis parasangis Fourthly bicause the vulgar people are caried away with sugred words if they be deliuered with a flowing tongue howsoeuer they be void of truth Fiftly because the truth cannot wholy and truly be reported for that none can write so fast as words doe passe in any disputation Sixtly because littera scripta manet but wordes passe as the winde Many other reasons may bee alledged but these for this time shall suffice Lastly these things notwithstanding I haue lately sent a booke to the presse before the Libellers booke came to my hands In which booke I haue made a new challenge to all English Iesuites and Iesuited persons whosoeuer of them listeth and dareth to accept the same VVhich challenge containeth a full answere to the challenging Libeller although I had sent it toward the Presse before I either saw his challenge or heard any thing thereof VVhich challenge I doe at this present renewe afresh and doe adde this vnto the same viz. that if the Libeller or any other Iesuite or Iesuited English Papist whosoeuer shall haue a minde heart and courage with the helpe and aduise of al other Papists tagge and ragge none excepted to publish in Print a direct iust and full answere to my booke intituled the down fall of Poperie answering the booke directly and fully not omitting the chiefest groundes foundations authorities and reasons as the sillie Fidler and shamelesse Libeller hath done snatching here a peece there a peece or if he or they dare not deale with that little booke then if hee or they or any of them shall publish in Print a direct full answere either to my booke of motiues or to my booke of the suruey of Poperie leauing no ground foundation authoritie or reason vnanswered or if he or they be afraid to deale with those bookes then if he or they or any of them shal publish or cause to be published in print a direct and ful answere in maner aforesaid to my least book intituled the hunting of the Romish Foxe and shall withal put down his name at large with the vsual addition of his condition order or calling signifying to the world that hee doth accept the challenge or offer then I promise herewith vnder my hand if God shal grant me life and health to fall down prostrate vpon my knees before the feete of the most mightie wise learned and religious Monarch Iames by Gods holy Ordinance King of great Britaine France Ireland and my most gracious Soueraigne then and there most humbly to request a safe conduct for his safe comming safe abiding and safe returning that shall accept the challenge in maner aforesaid and withall performe the answere in manner aforesaide And I protest vppon my saluation to doe with a willing minde and cheerefull heart so much as in me
it is no way sinne if it bee not voluntary Whether Bell fathereth not a notable vntrueth vpon S. Austen when he citeth these words of his to proue that inuoluntary motions of concupiscence be sinne indeed and truly so called I report me to the words by mee alledged for no such thing is in them to be found Nay either my braines are not in good tune or else Saint Austen proueth the cleane contrary It is a constant doctrine with that holy father that sinne is voluntary otherwise no sinne And for as much as some doubt might be made of originall sinne because it seemeth wholy inuoluntary he affirmeth also that sinne to bee voluntary and so concludeth generally all sinne to be so Marry a man of the Ministers learning may quickly ouerthrow vs with our owne Doctors if by that rare skill which hee hath in lying when they say one thing hee can without all blushing maintayne them to say the contrary Thus gallantly prateth our shamelesse Libeller Now heare my Reply The Reply My Reply or confutation standeth thus First that the shamelesse Iesuite durst not deale with my whole article but only with one silly patch or piece thereof which he hath guilefully and corruptly singled out O strange and most dastardly cowardnesse Fye vpon your shamelesse dealing What a Religion and fayth doe you Papists hold who dare not for your liues answere directly to any one booke chapter article or period which I haue many yeeres sithence published against the chiefe parts of your late vpstart Romish Religion You seeke out odde corners you flye to by-matters you dare not for your liues encounter me in the openfield Secondly that I haue indeede ouerthrowne them with their own Doctors yea euen with their chiefest Doctors and that al the world doth now perceiue the same For which respect they haue now at the last deemed it better to snatch heere a piece and there a piece out of my books and so to face out the matter with coozenage slaundering railing lying and most notorious corruption rather then to be wholy silent as they haue bene in former yeres Thirdly that seeing Robert Parsons the trayterous Iesuite whom I challenge to haue penned the Libel is euen by the iudgemeÌ„t of the popish secular priests an arrant Traitor a Priests bastard a monster of mankind a gybsey a man so impudeÌ„t that he will affirme or deny any thing a notorious lyar an incestuous person an heretike of the Family of Loue a drunken spunge a Fairies Brat the slaue of the deuill yea the wickedst man vpon earth no man of iudgement and good conscience will giue credit to his bare words when he bringeth no proofe for the same Fourthly that in the fourth article handled in the Downe-fall of Popery at large I haue proued very soundly by the Scriptures fathers and best approued Popish writers as also by many plaine testimonies out of S. Austens bookes that concupiscence remayning after Baptisme in the regenerate is both called sinne and is properly sinne indeed that the first motions of concupiscence which are connaturall to the corrupt man can no way be auoyded are flatly forbiddeÌ„ by this commaundement Thou shalt not couet that though the said rebellious motions bee voluntary in the worke yet are they voluntary in the original that Cardinall Bellarmine not able truly to answere S. Austens words hath in his explicatioÌ„ added very deceitfully this word quodaÌ„modo after a sort which word for all that can neither be found in S. Austen neither is it agreeable to his meaning But such beggerly shifts silly euasions are the props and stayes of late Romish Religion This done I haue confuted the exposition of the Rhemists who beare the world in hand that S. Paul speaketh not of the habituall concupiscence or sensual desire inclinatioÌ„ to euil wheÌ„ he forbiddeth to lust For if only the consent of our reason mind to obey and to follow the lusts therof were sin indeed then should S. Austens exposition be very childish too too absurd who telleth vs plainly in expresse tearmes that S. Paul could not fulfill that precept although he did not yeld his consent vnto it neither did obey or follow the desires therof Where I told the Reader that it will not serue or help the Papists to obiect that which is euer in their mouths viz. that it is inuoluntary can no way be auoyded and therefore no sinne at all Many strong reasons I alleadged for the proofe hereof in the Down-fall of Popery amongst which the Libeller found one only with which his courage serued him to grapple But alas all that he hath gayned is nothing els in very deed but to proue himselfe a malicious foole and the master Noddy of all Popish noddies in the world For the very next words in Saint Austen set downe in the Downe-fall which the shamelesse Libeller maliciously and guilefully omitted condemne him for a notorious coozener as which doe proue Saint Austen flatly on my side and wholy against himselfe Thus writeth Saint Austen Quod si quisquam c. But if any man say that concupiscence is nothing else then a will that is vicious and seruing sinne there is no resistance to bee made neither must controuersie bee in words when the thing is cleere and euident For so wee proue euerie sinne to bee voluntary eyther in the act or in the originall These are the expresse wordes of Saint Austen with which our Libeller durst not deale although in my booke they bee immediatly annexed to the former For the Libeller Robert Parsons and all his cursed Iesuited English broode doe know right wel that they are not able while the world endures to answere truâ—ly and directly any one of my books or any one Chapter or any one Article of the same Alas alas the case is too manifest For the Libeller confesseth that hitherto they haue not answered mee And hee addeth a toy for young children to play withall viz. that an answere was framed fiue yeeres agoe but hitherto suppressed vpon iust occasion because forsooth it was not to the purpose or if yee wil none at all What a thing is this the like was neuer heard knowne or seene All the Iesuites haue layd their heads together to answere my books About which answere as due circumstances will conuince they haue spent sixe whole yeeres plus minus in which space of time as our Fore-runner telleth vs they haue though long first answered my bookes But what followeth Marry sir that the answere hath hitherto beene suppressed euen for the space of fiue yeres and no lesse Is this possible It is most true read his booke page 15. and you shall find it to be so But what pretense hath hee in this behalfe viz. To suppresse the answere so many yeeres Forsooth he saith vpon iust occasion But what iust occasion that is neither can I tel neither I thinke himselfe
the price of thirtie pounds O braue Iesuites O poore begging Fryers Where is that pouertie which you professe the Iesuite Holt and his companions gathered of the Papists in this Realme the full summe of fiftie thousand pounds for English dispensations which as the secular Priests their brethren doe reckon it make two hundred millions of Italian scuts Al this which I here affirme of the gallantrie of our poore begging Fryers the Iesuites is to be seene in my anatomie of popish tyrannie euen verbatim as it came from the Pennes of the Popish Seminary-Priest Which I haue for this end here inserted that the Reader may the better vnderstand that in equalitie of time whereof the Libeller complaineth in the preface of his second Fore-runner FINIS Rom. 11. Vers. 33. Iob. 26. V. 8. Iob. 27. V. 11 Iob. 38. V. 8. Iob. 38. Vers. 11. Iob. 5.9 I might here recount many other rare extraordinary fauours of God towards me The Bufloes are as terrible beasts as the Lyons Many yet liuing knowe â—his to be most true A thing neuer heard or knowne before Sap. 8.1 Ephes. 1. Vers. 4.11 Rom. 9. Vers. 11.15.16 c. Ephes. 6. Vers. 12. Act. 9. Vers. 1.2.3 c. Let mee die a most cruell death if I shall not confound Popery by best approued Popish Doctors against any English Papist that shall haue courage to defend the same Psal. 118. verse 23. In the Survey of Poperie The Papists cannot abide to heare their religion thus tearmed But they must voleÌ„tes noleÌ„tes endure it till they answere all my bookes Forerunner pag. 15. Nascctur ridiculus mus O noble King for Christs sake graunt my request The victory is already gotten none of them dare vndertake the quarrell Let me be hanged bowelled and quartred yea and and my corpes cast to the fowles of the ayre if the victorie fall not on my side All this and much more is verified of our Iesuites as is proued at large in my Anatomie of Popish tyranny They haue bene now more then ten yeares buzzing about the answere of my bookes but none can be had See Act. 19. V. 24. c. All the Iesuits haue laid their heads and wits together for the pretensed answere to my booke albeit they labour to father on it a namelesse Libeller This is a point of great importance let it be well marked for Christs sake it is able to perswade any man Chap. 5. Pag. 32. Pag. 34. Loe my Bookes gall the Papists euen by their owne confession Marke this well It cannot be denied The Iesuits and all other Iesuited Papists are here goared to death The Iesuits Cap of consideration In my counterblast In his detection Prouer. 26. Vers 5. If my selfe were this day a Papist this their maner of dealing would cause me to forsake them renounce their Religion And me thinketh it should be able to worke the same effect in others Chap. 4. Pag. 23. Prou. 25. Vers. 2. Rom. 10. Veâ—seâ— â—0 13 1. Ioh. 2. Vers. 1.2 Mat. 18.22 Luk. 17.4 Chap. 1. Pag. 1.2.3 Chap. 3. Pag. 45.1 The libeller Robert Parsons is made of lying as it will soone appeare Iac. 3.2 Iam. 3. V. 10.11.12 Rom. 5. V. 12 Gen 6.5 Psal. 143.2 Psal. 130.3 Iob. 15 15. Mat. 23. Vers. 2.3 Mat. 26. V. 69 70.71.72.74 Act. 9.1 1. Tim. 1. v. 13 14.15 1. Ioh. 2. V. 1.2 Rom. 4. V. 2.3.4 Rom. 5.1 Rom. 6. Vers. 23. Tit. 3. V. 5. These Bishops sounded alarum against the Pope Page 11. The Iesuite is a most notorious lyer Prou. 14.5 Psal. 5.5 Pag. 15. It is an answere answereles Pag. 18. Loe their answere may not behold the light Libr. 2. cap. 17. The Franke discourse Pag. 98. Libr. 2. Cap. 17. Behold here the holy fraternitie of our Iesuits not I but the Papists affirme it to be so In his detection published Anno 1602. A most notorious lye it is against the late Romish Church not against the Catholique Church God forbid The lying Iesuit Parsons was the penner of both If this point be once well marked it will bring both the Pope and his popelings to their death An. 1602. Ah poore papists what a silly religion is yours An. 1599. Iudg. 15.4 An answere answerelesse In the dolefull cry of Rome A shame of all shames in the world Pag. 15. Loe how they are netled goared and whipped with my bookes His letter is to be scene if need require Loe a great number euen of the best haue consulted to answer me Marke this wonderment the answer to my bookes was 5. yeares a preparing 5. other years kept close in a pipkin from sun burning and it must come forth ad caleÌ„das graecas liue in tenebris Cimmeriis till their woman Pope Ioan be with child againe Pag. 15. Behold here fit counsellors for the popes holines Viz ad Calendas Graecas Pag. 20. Pag 21. He is a very cozening companion as his owne deare brethen haue truely termed him If no Iesuit or Iesuited papist dare this doe then fie vpon them all both great and small I haue hunted the Pope euen to death that with his owne doctors and yet no Papist is of courage once to encounter me therein Pag. 18.19 20. The dog is aâ— London with the lye Pag. 33. What a shamelesse dealing is this their consiences condemne them their hearts faile them Pag. 19. Pag. 9 Amost palpable contradiction in the Iesuite Parsons wordes What will not malice doe Pag. 14. soft and faire a while your cooler is at hand A vaine and insolent brag as shall soone appeare God willing Pag. 9. 10. Beholde a coward in graine Neither this Libeller Robert ParsoÌ„s nor any of his crewe durst now for ten yeares answere or accept my challenge And yet is he bold to call me coward being himself the coward indeede The Libeller is the coward in very deed Pag. 11. What a shamelesse Iesuite as this Libeller his owne wordes do condemne him O impudent Iesuits more impudent then impudencie is selfe The Iesuits are cowards not daring to defend their poperie vpon their owne soule Better learned Multis parasangis A new larum to the Iesuits and to all Iesuited Popelings The Libellers answering is nothing else but a fond kind of fidling Make hast O Iesuits and let me haue an answere with speede Prepare thy selfe O Iesuit to fight the combate valiantly Pag. 2. Import consid Pag. 39. George Blackwell the new vpstart archpriest O bloodie and trayterous Iesuits Reply to Parsons Libell Fol. 28. Diseou Pag. 70. Loe the Seminarie Priests gaue the name Which turneth to your eternal shame In my booke of Suruey else where See my booke the downfal Pag. 83. Rom. 1.8 1. Iohn 1. Vers. 8.9.10 Page 30. Vpon my saluation I deale truely Pag. 59. Tho. Aquinas 2.2 q. 12 Art 1. corp I dare not bost of works but I appeale to Gods free mercy for the merites of Christ Iesus Whatsoeuer the Romish Church hath consonant to the holy Scriptures our English