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other_o call_v colliridian_n haeres_fw-la 79._o of_o the_o same_o book_n and_o come_v he_o show_v how_o that_o these_o heretic_n exceed_v even_o as_o you_o do_v in_o offer_v unto_o mary_n and_o in_o honour_v and_o worship_v of_o she_o against_o who_o he_o there_o at_o large_a invei_v bitter_o as_o against_o most_o vile_a idolater_n for_o the_o same_o tell_v they_o that_o so_o to_o do_v be_v ungodly_a and_o wicked_a and_o strange_a from_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n yea_o altogether_o a_o work_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o a_o doctrine_n of_o the_o unclean_a spirit_n for_o mary_n be_v no_o god_n neither_o be_v she_o give_v we_o say_v he_o to_o be_v adore_v though_o she_o be_v a_o most_o excellent_a &_o honourable_a virgin_n but_o say_v he_o to_o forewarneman_n of_o which_o kind_n of_o too_o much_o admire_v she_o christ_n say_v unto_o she_o woman_n what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v with_o thou_o and_o a_o little_a after_o in_o the_o latter_a place_n he_o say_v neque_fw-la elias_n adorandus_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v neither_o be_v elias_n to_o be_v adore_v or_o pray_v unto_o though_o he_o live_v nor_o john_n nor_o tecla_n nor_o any_o other_o saint_n for_o the_o old_a error_n shall_v not_o over-rule_v we_o that_o we_o leave_v the_o live_a god_n and_o worship_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v make_v by_o he_o for_o they_o worship_v and_o adore_v the_o creature_n praeter_fw-la creatorem_fw-la beside_o the_o creator_n &_o they_o become_v fool_n rom._n 1._o for_o if_o a_o angel_n will_v not_o be_v adore_v how_o much_o more_o will_v not_o she_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o anna._n and_o therefore_o in_o the_o end_n conclude_v mariam_n nemo_fw-la
adoret_fw-la let_v no_o man_n adore_v mary_n i_o say_v not_o a_o woman_n but_o a_o man_n neither_o for_o this_o mystery_n be_v due_a to_o god_n than_o angel_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o this_o glory_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o the_o same_o epiphanius_n lib._n 1._o heres_fw-la 38._o write_v against_o the_o caian_o for_o their_o invocation_n of_o angel_n it_o shall_v seem_v therefore_o that_o petrus_n gnapheus_n who_o be_v condemn_v for_o a_o heretic_n in_o the_o 5._o general_a council_n be_v infect_v with_o some_o of_o these_o heresy_n for_o about_o the_o year_n of_o the_o lord_n 470._o as_o it_o appear_v in_o nicephorus_n 15._o book_n and_o 28._o chapter_n he_o be_v busy_a in_o devise_v and_o urge_v how_o mary_n shall_v in_o the_o public_a lyturgie_n not_o only_o be_v honourable_o name_v but_o also_o call_v upon_o &_o pray_v unto_o but_o if_o we_o will_v know_v the_o antiquity_n of_o these_o heretic_n and_o of_o you_o their_o scholar_n epiphanius_n haeres_fw-la 79._o send_v we_o 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