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the_o author_n then_o of_o this_o penitential_a write_v to_o heâ—ibaldus_n be_v either_o some_o other_o rabanus_n ibid._n rabanus_n reply_v ibid._n here_o we_o find_v the_o jesuite_n ignorant_a of_o that_o author_n upon_o who_o writing_n he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o be_v so_o acute_a a_o critic_n for_o if_o he_o have_v read_v the_o author_n himself_o he_o will_v have_v think_v of_o those_o word_n which_o point_n out_o who_o he_o be_v ego_fw-la dum_fw-la in_o episcopate_n moguntiensis_n indignus_fw-la constitutus_fw-la sum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d sum_fw-la cap._n 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n but_o how_o a_o jesuite_n of_o his_o undertake_n can_v be_v ignorant_a of_o their_o own_o gratian_n his_o cite_n of_o this_o book_n under_o the_o name_n of_o rabanus_n the_o archbishop_n archiepiscopus_fw-la archbishop_n gratian._n 〈◊〉_d 50._o cap_n the_o his_o vero_fw-la rabanus_n archiepiscopus_fw-la we_o can_v tell_v without_o surmise_n second_o he_o say_v that_o his_o suppose_a rabanus_n fall_v with_o heribaldus_n into_o the_o error_n call_v by_o paschasius_fw-la and_o algerus_n stercoranistarum_n who_o hold_v that_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v hypostatical_o unite_v unto_o the_o bread_n and_o assume_v it_o into_o one_o person_n with_o himself_o be_v therefore_o subject_a to_o digestion_n and_o avoidance_n 43_o avoidance_n reply_v pag._n 43_o callida_fw-la mendacia_fw-la he_o feign_v in_o earnest_n and_o there_o be_v but_o need_n for_o paschasius_fw-la make_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o stercoranistae_n second_o rabanus_n in_o his_o penitential_a hold_v the_o contrary_a mitti_fw-la contrary_a cap._n 33._o ista_fw-la sententia_fw-la contraria_fw-la est_fw-la sententijs_fw-la clementis_fw-la papae_fw-la &_o aliorum_fw-la multorum_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la patrum_fw-la qui_fw-la dicunt_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la cum_fw-la caeâ—â—ris_fw-la communibus_fw-la cibis_fw-la per_fw-la aquatiâ—ulos_fw-la in_o seâ—â—ssum_fw-la mitti_fw-la three_o it_o be_v a_o idle_a figment_n that_o 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