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A90683 The divine philanthropie defended against the declamatory attempts of certain late-printed papers intitl'd A correptory correction. In vindication of some notes concerning Gods decrees, especially of reprobation, by Thomas Pierce rector of Brington in Northamptonshire. Pierce, Thomas, 1622-1691. 1657 (1657) Wing P2178; Thomason E909_9; ESTC R207496 223,613 247

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the Apostles or teach their Mother the Church of England any better Catechism then she had taught them 3. I never saw those things which Mr. B. saith I durst not mention But I durst have nam'd any thing that I had known and I durst have shew'd my dislike if I saw occasion And I dare now say in the words of Mr. Cheynell upon another occasion that they might have contented themselves with that Catechism which was before in the Church of England unlesse they could have made a better And if this false saying of Mr. B. was cast out purposely by him to draw me into the danger of saying what I have said I am well pleased with my self that I have not spoken like a Hypocrite § 15. His 15 That in mp 13. 17. 34. pages I cast in Texts by dozens as if Baker-like I were bound to throw in so many fine manchets into a Buttery hatch p. 26. I have survey'd the three pages but cannot find where lyes the jest For in the first I find but six Texts in the second I find but seven and but eleven in the third But suppose that I had thrown in Texts by dozens Had it advantaged his Cause or hindred mine Polybius pardons such falsities as are invented for the good of Religion as he thought they might be in certain cases wherein he spake like himself a Politician and a Heathen But what excuse can he have who speaks untruly to no imaginable end when he gets nothing by the bargain § 16. His 16. That in my p. 35. I have a charitable wish that the absolute Reprobatarians should be shipt over for Turkey p. 27. 1. There is no wish at all 2. There is nothing spoken of any person but meerly of an opinion 3. That opinion there mentioned was no other then that all we doe however sinful is by an absolute Decree which I said and said truly as I yet conceive came out of Turky into Christendome or was at least a Transcript of the Heathen Stoicks 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But 4. I spake not a word of shipping thither only said that that opinion would be rooted out in the next Reformation So manifold is each Forgery that if I did not omit many of them and study brevity in those I mention I should be as tedious as the Correptory Corrector § 17. His 17. That I take my selfe to be wiser then Austin whose manlike writings I confute by his more infantile and babelike writings p. 27. Here the unhappy Corrector hath bewrayed himself many wayes For 1. I no where confront S. Austin to himself but alwayes alleage him in behalf of that Doctrine which I assert 2. He calumniates that Father and gives him Correptory Correction calling him a babelike and infant-like writer whensoever his writings are not pleasing to Mr. B. 3. That very passage of S. Austin in my p. 44. which is referred to by Mr. B. was written by him in that book which he writ being a Bishop and not a bare Presbyter and which S. Austin himself commended as very sufficient to confute Pelagius his opinion And was Austin the Bishop a very babe and Infant in the sight of Mr. B. who is at the most but a Presbyterian 4. did Mr. B. know that Austin was a Bishop when he writ to Simplician or did he not if he did why did he meanly prevaricate with me and his Reader by calling those his babelike writings if he did not why was he so dogmaticall in what he did not understand but parachronismes with him are his very best faults So in his p. 117. he would have Calvin be thought to say no more then what multitudes of Schoolmen some hundreds of years before Calvin was born had said quoting only two men and who should they be but. Scotus and Suarez 5. He doth forget or conceal that in my p. 28. I mentioned 4 expositions which Austin made on 1 Tim. 2. 4. preferring that which was written after the time that the heresie of Pelagius was on foot Which was I hope no babelike writing 6. I hope that Austins Retractations being the last thing he writ as I suppose are no Infantile or babelike writings where yet he speaks for me against Mr. B. as much as I could desire him His words are these in the Margin which I thus translate to Mr. B. what I said It belongs to us to will and to beleeve But it belongs to God to give unto us so willing and beleeving the ability of well-doing through the holy Ghost by whom his love is shed abroad in our hearts is indeed very true but by the same rule they are both pertaining unto God because it is he hat prepares our will and both partaining unto us too because they are no● wrought in us unless we are willing If I had used these expressions as mine own they had been branded with Palagia ●…sme at least But since the words are Austins and in his book of Re●racta ions and if not more yet at least as much sounding to the displeasure of Mr. B. as any thing I ever spake I know not how our Corrector can either swallow them down or cast them up Mr. Calvin Beza and Dr. Twis●e have very publickly confessed that all the Fathers before S. Austin a very great number are quite against their way Only they make much of him and of his Disciples by misexpounding some places which fell from him unawares who yet declares himself so plainly even in his Retractations as I could shew more largely if my desires of brevity would permit and may have occasion to doe it hereafter that they have not left them so much as one Mr. Calvin confesseth in effect that all the Latine Fathers did own free-will and that all the Greek ones did speak more arrogantly then the Latins Using the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as if it were in man to do what he pleased Nay farther The Greeks and the Latins were so far from speaking as Mr. Calvin would have had them that he even rails at them as drawing too neere the very Heathen Philosophers as in his Anger he is pleased to say when he findes their Doctrine doth ruine his who boasted themselves the Disciples of Christ and speaking of mans will as if he were yet in a stare of Innocence He there particularly singles out S. Chr●s●stome from the Greeks and S. Hierome from the Latins and bestows upon them both some such Correptory Correction as Mr. B. bestows on me As that they ascribed more to man towards the study or desire or love of vertue then it was just for them to doe Which was to accuse them of Pelagianisme or Massilianisme at least although the words of S. Hierome were spoken in his book against Pelagius and indeed did more sound towards it then any thing the Declamator can finde in me Farther yet It was the saying of