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which_o be_v common_a to_o they_o all_o i_o know_v that_o all_o the_o estate_n and_o order_n of_o this_o reality_n hate_n anabaptisme_n i_o require_v not_o your_o promise_n for_o that_o matter_n which_o you_o offer_v unto_o i_o satis_fw-la pro_fw-la imperio_fw-la i_o know_v their_o detestation_n of_o that_o heresy_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_o hold_a to_o open_v these_o practice_n &_o quality_n unto_o they_o lest_o they_o may_v by_o some_o man_n hypocrisy_n and_o close_a deal_n be_v deceive_v my_o word_n and_o writing_n be_v public_a my_o speech_n plain_a and_o therefore_o if_o i_o sting_v it_o be_v open_o enough_o the_o privy_a hisser_n and_o stinger_n he_o those_o that_o secret_o smite_v their_o neighbour_n and_o hiss_v at_o they_o in_o their_o absence_n at_o table_n and_o in_o corner_n and_o sting_v they_o behind_o their_o back_n when_o they_o be_v not_o present_a to_o answer_v for_o themselves_o such_o adder_n and_o scorpion_n swarm_v among_o you_o io._n whitgifte_n a_o exhortation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 5._o sect._n 6._o moreover_o it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o consider_v the_o condition_n &_o practice_n of_o the_o donatists_n who_o divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o congregation_n donatist_n donatist_n and_o have_v their_o peculiar_a church_n or_o rather_o conventicle_n in_o africa_n they_o teach_v also_o that_o all_o other_o church_n be_v spot_v and_o impure_a because_o of_o their_o minister_n final_o that_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o compulsion_n use_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o faith_n and_o that_o none_o shall_v be_v punish_v for_o their_o conscience_n t._n c._n page_n 7._o sect._n 4._o now_o you_o carry_v we_o from_o the_o anabaptiste_n in_o europe_n to_o the_o donatist_n in_o africa_n and_o you_o will_v paynte_v we_o with_o their_o colour_n but_o you_o want_v the_o oil_n of_o truth_n or_o 〈◊〉_d of_o truth_n to_o cause_v your_o colour_n to_o cleave_v and_o to_o endure_v the_o lord_n be_v praise_v that_o your_o breath_n although_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d anke_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o so_o strong_a y_fw-mi t_o it_o be_v able_a either_o to_o turn_v we_o or_o change_v we_o into_o what_o form_n it_o please_v you_o i_o shall_v desire_v the_o reader_n to_o look_v theodoret_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-la fabulis_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la &_o augustin_n ad_fw-la quoduultdeum_a and_o in_o his_o first_o and_o second_o book_n against_o 〈◊〉_d letter_n where_o he_o shall_v find_v of_o these_o heretic_n that_o by_o compare_v they_o with_o these_o to_o who_o m._n doctor_n lyk_fw-mi eth_z them_z the_o smoke_n of_o this_o accusation_n may_v the_o better_o appear_v for_o these_o sclaunder_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_v to_o this_o division_n from_o the_o church_n and_o to_o your_o suppose_a conventicle_n i_o have_v answer_v they_o teach_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n but_o in_o africa_n we_o teach_v nothing_o less_o than_o that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n but_o in_o england_n if_o the_o church_n be_v consider_v in_o the_o part_n whether_o minister_n or_o people_n there_o be_v none_o pure_a and_o unspotted_a and_o this_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o true_a church_n and_o not_o of_o the_o donatist_n if_o it_o be_v consider_v in_o the_o whole_a and_o general_a government_n and_o outward_a policy_n of_o it_o it_o may_v be_v pure_a and_o unspotted_a for_o any_o thing_n i_o know_v if_o man_n will_v labour_n to_o purge_v it_o the_o donatists_n vaunt_a themselves_o to_o be_v exempt_v from_o sin_n and_o what_o likelihood_n be_v there_o between_o any_o assertion_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n and_o this_o fancy_n of_o the_o donatist_n to_o the_o last_o point_n of_o no_o compulsion_n to_o be_v use_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v true_a i_o refer_v the_o further_a answer_n to_o a_o other_o place_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o that_o i_o have_v set_v down_o of_o the_o donatist_n be_v all_o true_a neither_o can_v you_o disprove_v one_o word_n of_o it_o i_o write_v so_o much_o of_o their_o practice_n as_o he_o correspondent_a to_o the_o do_n donatist_n the_o admonitor_n compare_v with_o the_o donatist_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n the_o donatist_n divide_v the_o mselue_n from_o the_o co_fw-la gregation_n and_o have_v peculiar_a church_n or_o rather_o conventicle_n in_o africa_n these_o also_o divide_v themselves_o from_o the_o church_n and_o although_o they_o tie_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n to_o any_o one_o corner_n yet_o have_v they_o their_o several_a church_n and_o secret_a meeting_n the_o 〈◊〉_d make_v this_o their_o excuse_n why_o they_o depart_v from_o other_o church_n because_o they_o be_v not_o pure_a and_o unspotted_a and_o their_o minister_n of_o evil_a life_n these_o man_n for_o the_o like_a cause_n separate_a themselves_o from_o the_o church_n also_o the_o donatist_n will_v have_v no_o 〈◊〉_d use_v in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o religion_n and_o faith_n these_o man_n in_o effect_n be_v likewise_o mind_v for_o they_o will_v have_v no_o 〈◊〉_d punishment_n use_v which_o may_v appear_v y_o that_o which_o be_v write_v in_o the_o second_o 〈◊〉_d fol._n 57_o where_o they_o say_v that_o it_o 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o make_v any_o law_n 〈◊〉_d m_o ere_o 〈◊〉_d because_o the_o government_n of_o the_o 57_o second_o admoni_fw-la fol._n 57_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d per_fw-la 〈◊〉_d the_o word_n and_o fol._n 56._o and_o in_o 〈◊〉_d plate_n else_o they_o speak_v to_o the_o like_a purpose_n whereof_o occasion_n will_v be_v g_o ven_o hereafter_o better_a to_o consider_v augustine_n in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr haeresibus_fw-la ad_fw-la quodvult_a 〈◊〉_d hew_v that_o some_o of_o the_o donatist_n quodvult_a aug._n de_fw-fr baeresib_fw-la ad_fw-la quodvult_a be_v also_o arian_n but_o not_o all_o 〈◊〉_d some_o of_o they_o be_v circumcellion_n of_o which_o sect_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o place_n by_o you_o cite_v but_o what_o be_v all_o 〈◊〉_d to_o ▪_o haeret._n lib._n 4_o the_o fab_n haeret._n the_o 〈◊〉_d speak_v ot_fw-mi of_o their_o opinion_n nor_o of_o all_o their_o condition_n but_o of_o such_o only_a wherein_o these_o that_o separate_v themselves_o in_o our_o day_n seem_v to_o agree_v with_o they_o similia_fw-la as_o you_o know_v agree_v not_o in_o all_o point_n it_o be_v sufficient_a if_o they_o do_v in_o those_o thing_n in_o quibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d neither_o do_v i_o any_o otherwise_o report_n of_o they_o than_o m._n caluine_n himself_o do_v in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o anabaptiste_n and_o augustine_n with_o other_o that_o write_v of_o they_o sure_o neither_o in_o the_o whole_a nor_o in_o part_n can_v the_o church_n be_v unspotted_a in_o this_o world_n no_o not_o in_o the_o outward_a policy_n and_o government_n of_o it_o neither_o do_v i_o think_v that_o you_o be_v able_a to_o show_v any_o example_n of_o such_o purity_n we_o have_v to_o the_o contrary_a even_o in_o the_o apostolical_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n and_o of_o the_o galatian_n master_n caluine_n in_o his_o book_n adversus_fw-la anabaptistas_n be_v direct_o against_o you_o and_o in_o deed_n i_o think_v that_o you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o show_v one_o learned_a writer_n of_o your_o opinion_n in_o this_o point_n io._n whitgifte_n a_o exhortation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 5._o sect._n 7._o to_o conclude_v these_o man_n flat_o join_v with_o the_o papist_n and_o by_o the_o self_n same_o assertion_n bend_v their_o force_n against_o this_o church_n of_o england_n t_o c._n pag._n 7._o sect._n ult._n solomon_n say_v that_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o orde_n of_o a_o unwise_a man_n be_v folyshnesse_n b_o t_o the_o 13._o ecclef_n 10._o ver_fw-la 13._o latter_a end_n of_o they_o be_v mere_a madness_n even_o so_o it_o 〈◊〉_d out_o by_o you_o for_o while_o you_o suffer_v yourself_o to_o be_v carry_v headlong_o of_o your_o affection_n you_o hurl_v you_o know_v not_o what_o nor_o at_o who_o whatsoever_o come_v first_o to_o
every_o one_o that_o consent_v to_o order_n and_o subscribe_v unto_o they_o do_v not_o therefore_o make_v they_o wherefore_o they_o may_v proper_o be_v say_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n only_o though_o the_o people_n allow_v well_o of_o they_o and_o consent_v to_o they_o and_o therefore_o say_v m._n caluine_n the_o modesty_n of_o the_o people_n act._n cal._n in_o 15._o act._n herein_o do_v appear_v that_o after_o they_o have_v commit_v the_o decide_v of_o the_o controversy_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o doctor_n they_o be_v also_o content_a to_o subscribe_v to_o their_o decree_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o such_o manner_n of_o speech_n or_o no_o in_o the_o roman_n story_n it_o be_v not_o material_a neither_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n here_o speak_v which_o prove_v that_o this_o be_v such_o a_o manner_n of_o speech_n wherefore_o it_o must_v remain_v as_o proper_a and_o literal_o true_a until_o there_o be_v strong_a reason_n bring_v to_o prove_v as_o plain_o that_o the_o people_n ordain_v minister_n as_o it_o be_v here_o write_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v chap._n 4._o the_o third_o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 43._o lin._n 8._o and_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d although_o it_o signify_v to_o elect_v by_o put_v up_o of_o hand_n yet_o it_o be_v the_o common_a opinion_n almost_o of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n that_o this_o word_n in_o scripture_n be_v use_v for_o the_o solemn_a manner_n of_o order_v minister_n by_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n t._n c._n pag._n 29._o sect._n 6._o &_o pag._n 30._o sect._n 1._o 2._o 3._o 4._o and_o i_o marvel_n with_o what_o conscience_n he_o can_v answer_v so_o in_o this_o place_n especial_o where_o it_o be_v forthwith_o add_v that_o they_o ordain_v they_o by_o the_o suffrage_n and_o voice_n of_o the_o church_n but_o you_o say_v that_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v by_o the_o common_a opinion_n of_o almost_o all_o 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