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A66445	The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration.	Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652.	1644 (1644)	Wing W2758; ESTC R2405	232,471	275

Christians are to be exhorted not compelled But this hundreth not that Christians sinning against light of Faith and Conscience may justly be censured by the Church with Excommunication and by the Civill Sword also in case they shall corrupt others to the perdition of their Soules As for the Testimony of the Popish Book we weigh it not as knowing whatsoever they speake for Toleration of Religion where themselves are under Hatches when they come to sit at Sterne they judge and practise quite contrary as both their Writings and Iudiciall proceedings have testified to the World these many yeares To shut up this Argument from Testimonie of Writers It is well known Augustine retracted this Opinion of yours which in his younger times he had held but in after riper age reversed and refuted as appeareth in the second Book of his Retractations chap. 5. and in his Epistles 48. 50. And in his 1. Book against Parmenianus cap. 7. he sheweth that if the Donatists were punished with death they were justly punished And in his 11 Tractate upon Iohn They murther saith he Soules and themselves are afflicted in Body They put men to everlasting death and yet they complaine when themselves are put to suffer temporall death Optatus in his 3. book justifieth Macharius who had put some Hereticks to death that he had done no more herein then what Moses Phincas and Elias had done before him Bernard in his 66 Sermon in Cantica Out of doubt saith he it is better that they should be restrained by the Sword of Him who beareth not the Sword in vaine then that they should be suffred to draw many others into their Errour For he is the Minister of God for Wrath to every evill doer Calvins judgement is well knowne who procured the death of Michael Servetus for pertinacie in Heresie and defended his fact by a Book written of that Argument Beza also wrote a Booke de Haereticis Morte plectendis that Hereticks are to be punished with Death Aretius likewise tooke the like course about the Death of Valentinus Gentilis and justified the Magistrates proceeding against him in an History written of that Argument Finally you come to answer some maine Objections as you call them which yet are but one and that one objecteth nothing against what we hold It is say you no prejudice to the Common-wealth if Libertie of Conscience were suffred to such as feare God indeed which you prove by the examples of the Patriarchs and others But we readily grant you Libertie of Conscience is to be granted to men that feare God indeed as knowing they will not persist in Heresie or turbulent Schisme when they are convinced in Conscience of the sinfulnesse thereof But the Question is Whether an Heretick after once or twice Admonition and so after conviction or any other scandalous and heynous offender may be tolerated either in the Church without Excommunication or in the Common-wealth without such punishment as may preserve others from dangerous and damnable infection Thus much I thought needfull to be spoken for avoyding the Grounds of your Errour I forbeare adding Reasons to justifie the Truth because you may finde that done to your hand in a Treatise sent to some of the Brethren late of Salem who doubted as you doe The Lord Jesus lead you by a Spirit of Truth into all Truth through Jesus Christ. A REPLY to the aforesaid ANSWER of Mr. Cotton In a CONFERENCE betweene TRVTH and PEACE CHAP. I. Truth IN what darke corner of the World sweet Peace are we two met How hath this present evill World banished Me from all the Coasts Quarters of it and how hath the Righteous God in judgement taken Thee from the Earth Rev. 6. 4. Peace 'T is lamentably true blessed Truth the foundations of the World have long been out of course the Gates of Earth and Hell have conspired together to intercept our joyfull meeting and our holy kisses With what a wearied tyred Wing have I flowne over Nations Kingdomes Cities Townes to finde out precious Truth Truth The like enquiries in my flights and travells have I made for Peace and still am told she hath left the Earth and fled to Heaven Peace Deare Truth What is the Earth but a dungeon of darknesse where Truth is not Truth And what 's the Peace thereof but a fleeting dreame thine Ape and Counterfeit Peace O where 's the Promise of the God of Heaven that Righteousnes and Peace shall kisse each other Truth Patience sweet Peace these Heavens and Earth are growing Old and shall be changed like a Garment Psal. 102. They shall melt away and be burnt up with all the Works that are therein and the most high Eternall Creatour shall gloriously create New Heavens and New Earth wherein dwells Righteousnesse 2 Pet. 3. Our kisses then shall have their endlesse date of pure and sweetest ioyes till then both Thou and I must hope and wait and beare the furie of the Dragons wrath whose monstrous Lies and Furies shall with himselfe be cast into the lake of Fire the second death Revel 20. Peace Most precious Truth thou knowest we are both pursued and laid for Mine heart is full of sighes mine eyes with teares Where can I better vent my full oppressed bosome then into thine whose faithfull lips may for these few houres revive my drooping wandring spirits and here begin to wipe Teares from mine eyes and the eyes of my dearest Children Truth Sweet daughter of the God of Peace begin powre out thy sorrowes vent thy complaints how joyfull am I to improve these precious Minutes to revive our Hearts both thine and mine and the hearts of all that love the Truth and Peace Zach. 8. Peace Deare Truth I know thy birth thy nature thy delight They that know thee will prize thee farre above themselves and lives and sell themselves to buy thee Well spake that famous Elizabeth to her famous Attorney Sir Edward Coke Mr. Attourney goe on as thou hast begun and still plead not pro Domina Regina but pro Domina Veritate Truth 'T is true my Crowne is high my Scepter 's strong to breake down strongest holds to throw down highest Crownes of all that plead though but in thought against me Some few there are but oh how few are valiant for the Truth and dare to plead my Cause as my Witnesses in sack-cloth Revel 11. While all mens Tongues are bent like Bowes to shoot out lying words against Me Peace O how could I spend eternall dayes and endlesse dates at thy holy feet in listning to the precious Oracles of thy mouth All the Words of thy mouth are Truth and there is no iniquity in them Thy lips drop as the hony-combe But oh since we must part anon let us as thou saidst improve our Minutes and according as thou promisedst revive me with thy words which are sweeter then the honey and the honey-combe CHAP. II. DEare Truth I have two sad Complaints First The most sober

each others Church or Meeting CHAP. LXXIV Peace THe next passage in the Author which the Answerer descends unto is the testimony of the Papists themselves a lively and shining testimony from Scriptures alledged both against themselves and all that associate with them as power is in their hand in such unchristian and bloody both tenents and practices As for the testimony of the Popish booke saith he we weight it not as knowing what ever they speake for toleration of Religion where themselves are under Hatches when they come to sit at Stern they judge and practise quite contrary as both their writings and judiciall proceedings have testified to the world these many yeares Truth I answer although both writings and practices have been such yet the Scriptures and expressions of truth alledged and uttered by them speake loud and fully for them when they are under the Hatches that for their conscience and religion they should not there be choaked and smothered but suffered to breathe and walke upon the Deckes in the ayre of civill liberty and conversation in the Ship of the commonwealth upon good assurance given of civill obedience to the civill State Againe if this practice bee so abominable in his eyes from the Papists viz. that they are so partiall as to persecute when they sit at Helme and yet cry out against persecution when they are under the Hatches I shall beseech the Righteous Judge of the whole world to present as in a Water or Glasse where face answereth to face the faces of the Papist to the Protestant answering to each other in the samenesse of partiality both of this doctrine and practice When Mr. Cotton and others have formerly been under hatches what sad and true complaints have they abundantly powred forth against persecution How have they opened that heavenly Scripture Cant 4. 8. Where Christ Iesus calls his tender Wife and Spouse from the fellowship with persecutors in their dens of Lions and mountaines of Leopards But comming to the Helme as he speaks of the Papists how both by preaching writing Printing practice doe they themselves I hope in their persons Lambes unnaturally and partially expresse toward others the cruell nature of such Lions and Leopards O that the God of Heaven might please to tell them how abominable in his eyes are a waight and a waight a stone and a stone in the bag of waights one waight for themselves when they are under Hatches and another for others when they come to Helme Nor shall their confidence of their being in the truth which they judge the Papists and others are not in no nor the Truth it selfe priviledge them to persecute others and to exempt themselves from persecution because as formerly First it is against the nature of true Sheep to persecute or hunt the Beasts of the Forrest no not the same Wolves who formerly have persecuted themselves Secondly if it be a duty and charge upon all Magistrates in all parts of the World to judge and persecute in and for spirituall causes then either they are no Magistrates who are not able to judge in such cases or else they must judge according to their Consciences whether Pagan Turkish or Antichristian Lastly notwithstanding their confidence of the truth of their owne way yet the experience of our Fathers errours our owne mistakes and ignorance the sense of our own weaknesses and blindnesse in the depths of the prophesies mysteries of the Kingdom of Christ and the great professed expectation of light to come which we are not now able to comprehend may abate the edge yea sheath up the sword of persecution toward any especially such as differ not from them in doctrines of repentance or faith or holinesse of heart and life and hope of glorious and eternall union to come but only in the way and manner of the administrations of Iesus Christ. CHAP. LXXV Peace TO close this head of the testimony of Writers it pleaseth the Answerer to produce a contrary testimony of Austin Optatus c. Truth I readily acknowledge as formerly I did concerning the testimony of Princes that Antichrist is too hard for Christ at votes and numbers yea and beleeve that in many points wherein the servants of God these many hundred yeares have beene fast asleep superstition and persecution have had more suffrages and votes from Gods owne people then hath either been honourable to the Lord or peaceable to their owne or the soules of others Therefore not to derogate from the pretious memory of any of them let us briefly consider what they have in this point affirmed To begin with Austin They murther saith he soules and themselves are afflicted in body and they put men to everlasting death and yet they complaine when themselves are put to temporall death I answer This Rhetoricall perswasion of humane wisdome seems very reasonable in the eye of flesh and blood but one Scripture more prevailes with faithfull and obedient soules then thousands of plausi●le and eloquent speeches in particular First the Scripture useth soule-killing in a large sense not only for the teaching of false prophets and seducers but even for the offensive walking of Christians in which respect 1 Cor. 8. a true Christian may be guilty of destroying a soule for whom Christ died and therefore by this rule ought to be hanged burned c. Secondly That plausible similitude will not prove that every false teaching or false practice actually kills the soule as the body is slaine and slaine but once for soules infected or bewitched may againe recover 1 Cor. 5. Gal. 5. 2 Tim. 2. c. Thirdly for soule-killings yea also for soule-woundings and grievings Christ Iesus hath appointed remedies sufficient in his Church There comes forth a two edged sword out of his mouth Rev. 1. and Rev. 2 able to cut downe Heresie as is confest yea and to kill the Hereticke yea and to punish his soule everlastingly which no sword of steele can reach unto in any punishment comparable or imaginable and therefore in this case we may say of this spirituall soule-killing by the sword of Christs mouth as Paul concerning the incestuous person 2 Cor. 2. Sufficient is this punishment c. Fourthly Although no Soule-killers nor Soule-grievers may be suffred in the Spirituall State or Kingdome of Christ the Church yet he hath commanded that such should be suffered and permitted to be and live in the World as I have proved on Matth. 13. otherwise thousands and millions of soules and bodies both must be murthered and cut off by civill combustions and bloody warres about Religion Fifthly I argue thus The Soules of all men in the World are either naturally dead in Sin or alive in Christ. If dead in sinne no man can kill them no more then he can kill a dead man Nor is it a false Teacher or false Religion that can so much prevent the means of Spirituall life as one of these