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A16690 Detection of Ed. Glouers hereticall confection lately contriued and proffered to the Church of England, vnder the name of A present preseruatiue. VVherein with the laying open of his impudent slander against our whole ministrie, the reader shal find a new built nest of old hatcht heresies discouered, (and by the grace of God) ouerthrowne: togither with an admonistion to the followers of Glouer and Browne. By Steph. Bredwell, student in phisicke. Seene and allowed. Bredwell, Stephen. 1586 (1586) STC 3598; ESTC S114175 80,218 141

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wiping out of the booke in Exod. it is called The booke that thou hast written in the Psalme the booke of the liuing His iust answere might be that there is not meant the booke of predestination to life but the communicating of the couenant which God had made with Abraham and his séed whereby they were now as in a mustre rowle reckoned the onely people of God the Gentiles being excluded But if by way of concession we graunt him that place of the Psalme to respect the booke of life mentioned Apoc. 20. 12. as also anie such place of scripture reporting a racing out of the vngodlie yet he that is not wilfullie blind may sée that those places are not to be taken in a full and exquisite sense as though any such as the scripture thus speaketh of were euer writen in déed in the booke of life but onely according to the supposall of men and estimation that the hipocrite hath of him selfe so doth the scripture in such places answere home to his owne heart that he shall be wiped out of the number among which he thinketh himself so certainly registred and written Which is nothing els but to bee declared and laid open that howsoeuer he hath boastingly borne himselfe among the Saintes he was neuer in trueth of their number before God In likt sorte Iohn speaketh of those that fall away They went out from vs that it might be made manifest they were neuer of vs. And this is according likewise as I alledged before against the hipocrite to take from him euē that which he was supposed to haue This certainly is the vttermost that can bee concluded out of those places although it be graunted E. G. that in them is vnderstood the booke of predestination vnto life For that any in déed once written in the booke of life and predestinate to be saued can fall away or be crossed out of the number anie more is vntrue and vnpossible as I will proue 1. This is a certaine place that the elect cannot fall away God speaking by his Prophet of the new couenant saith I will put my law in their inner parts and I will write it in their hearts and wilbe their God they shalbe my people How farre this reacheth to the assurance I speake of appeareth by the opposition of the effectes of the two couenants touching which he saith first that the new should not be like that which was giuen vnto their fathers neither for the forme thereof for the new should be writen in their hearts arguing the old to be writen but in stone as Paule also speaketh neither yet for the effect for they brake y ● couenant verse 32. But contrariewise touching the effect of the new he saith and I will be their God they shall be my people Which I say the necessitie of the contrariety enforceth as farre as if the wordes had béene They shall not breake this couenant nor be seperated from me for euer My second reason is from that place of Iohn If they had beene of vs they would haue remained with vs. Which hath this most apparant consequence that all those that are of the number of the elect shall euen so abide for euer For either the Apostle there maketh it a necessarie conclusion or els his reason must bee nothing worth 3. This chaine can neuer bee broken which the Lord himselfe hath made whom he hath knowne before those he hath predestinate whom he hath predestinate those he hath called whom he hath called those he hath iustified and whome he hath iustified those also he hath glorified So that what is clearer then that all that are written in the booke of Gods foreknowledge are predestinate to passe through all the midle meanes euen to glorification And Paule saith afterward nothing can seperate vs from this loue of God in Christ Iesus 4. It is written concerning that many headed beast which should so preuaile with the people of that age vnto Idolatrie Therefore all the inhabitants of the earth whose names are not written in the booke of life of that Lambe slaine from the foundations of the worlde shall worship that beast Now when we sée all those that are written in the booke of life to be vtterly exempted from perill of falling into Idolatrie euery man séeth it most equall that they be exempted from falling away from grace 5. If it were possible for those that are once written in the booke of life to be wiped out againe to what purpose did our Sauiour place all his Disciples ioy and reioycing in this life in this meditation aboue all other that their names were written in heauen Where anie doubtfulnesse is there is no solid ioy nor comfort Finally if it be true that E. G. hath hetherto stood in that euer as a man standeth firme he is predestinate to life and when he falleth he is predestinate to death then it followeth that he is euer anon written in and raced out of the booke of life which is y ● foreknowledge of God and so it can not be said that predestination is from before the begining of the world when as this man maketh it but a dayly decrée for this life The inconuenience whereof I perceiue he saw not when he set downe that Dauid was predestinate from the beginning to be the child of the diuel when he sinned and againe the childe of God when he repented Wel now at length let vs heare his conclusion of this matter Lastly ● E. G. we deny not but that God hath also predestinate some neuer to fall away but to be renewed alwaies by repentance and therein to perseuere euen to the day of their death But it can not be knowne who are of this number vntill we see this grace giuen vnto them of God euen to their last end O chaungeable cameleon Had he conclucluded a lite before that that no man is predestinate vnto life at all times And what is this that he now affirmeth Some are predestmate neuer to fall away but to perseuere vnto the end A lier they say had néed of a notable memorie Touching that he saith we can not know who are of this number till the end I sée well he was euen ouer head and eares in poperie But howsoeuer he or any other euil spirites call it impietie presumption and sawcines in the children of God to hold their election in assurance here in this life let vs neuer a whit be discouraged to walke so farre in this point also as we haue iust warrant by the word of God Concerning others we haue litle to say this businesse concerneth euerie mans selfe And if it did not greatly concerne euerie mans owne selfe the Apostle would neuer so vpbradingly haue bidden y ● Corinthians enter into this examinatiō of themselues saying Try your own selues whether you be in the faith proue your own selues doe you not know your own selues to
wit that Iesus Christ is in you except you be reprobates Hetherto also maketh S. Peters exhortatiō that we would make our vocation and election sure vnto vs that is confirme our mindes therein by a holie life Of the notes to examine our selues by I haue spoken hertofore more exactly page 75. 76. where are described the seueral fruites of our recōciliatiō Briefly like as by good works indéed we acknowledge sanctification and from sanctification ascend to faith as which can bee no more separated then the fire and his light euen so from those sure effects we gather our effectuall calling from that calling we conclude our election and so our predestination in Christ as firme through the infallible connexion of canses effects euen as the throne it self of God is firme vnmoueable here fastening y ● anker of our hope which neuer maketh vs ashamed wée are carried vpward and foorthright stil we fare amids y e tempests of all temptations being euer conquerous through the spirit of God vntill at the last we attaine to the desired glorification His exhortation directed vnto vs wherein hee boasteth to minister sure matter of sounde comfort for our reliefe as though all our Ministers doo comfort vs amisse as it receiued proportion and forme from the prince of pride who maketh his instruments surpassing all others in the height of their owne conceit so the matter of it is as a waight of lead specially for the afflicted conscience to sinke it downe to hell For when the soule now alreadie humbled and brused with the sense and burden of sin shall receiue this newes that there is no allowed harboure for her safe comfort and reioycing til shée can attain to that stately abilitie of standing as neuer more to commit anie thing y ● shée knoweth to be sinne to what extremitie shall shée bée brought hereby How shal she auoyd the iawes of hell and dispaire especially hauing alreadie before her eyes the terrible experience of her own impotencie And he that standeth firmest can herein finde no comfort séeing no certaintie is gran●●d him so long as his conscience can tell him of any sin for this man saith plainly That condemnation abideth for him so long vntill he haue by Christ all the workes of the deuill so loosed in him that he sin not Which wordes shew more fully the reach of his meaning if they be wayed with that which a litle after he vttereth Wee may be bold by the example of Christs Apostle to affirme that no violēce either heauenly or earthly no death no persecution no swoord no power or force whatsoeuer shalbe able to separat vs from the loue of God in our Lord Iesus Christ that is shalbe able to force vs to sin wittingly Here his wholesome glose vpon the text telleth the reader how little grace was in the man Besides a child cannot be deceiued that readeth y ● place but must sée that there the Apostle speaketh of the loue not wherewith we loue God but wherewith God loueth vs in Christ Iesu Now in that hée hath framed it thus for his purpose it declareth that I haue not charged him amisse hitherto in saying he affirmeth the regenerate man to haue a full absolute power to withstand sin Which as I haue by the grace of God plentifully confuted heretofore so yet can I not but by this flat place presse him moreouer and that worthely with these his owne absurdities and contradictions First if the regenerate mans abilitie be so great that nothing can constraine him to sin then it should folow that he cannot sin wittingly at anie time for S. Paul plainely inough teacheth that his will is euer to d●● that hee knoweth God hath commanded him and euerie one of vs féeleth this most certainly in his owne experiēce to be true Secondly if this doctrine stand then election is alwaies at one staie with the regenerate his perseuerance neuer faileth vtterly the spirit cannot quite be put out and so that fayre puppie often regeneration néedeth no other violence then such as the hand of him that begot it bringeth here vnto it And to conclude thus we see in true consequence al other foundations in his booke rased to the ground for the establishing of this own browne paper building of mans absolute abilitie which hauing now alreadie put the fire of Gods word vnto it sufficeth me here to behold the flame thereof The-scriptures which he wringeth will not yeelde him one drop of liquor to quench it He faileth still in this common fallation to toke that for simply and in all respects which is meant but in a measure and in some respects So for the place of the Philippians because Paule saide he was able by Christ to behaue him selfe in all states of life whether in fulnes or hunger aboundance or scarcitie this man wil vnderstand it of euery actiō throughout Paules life of an absolute power to performe the same euen as he would In like sorte dealeth he with the other two places 1. Cor. 4. 4. and 2. Tim. 4. 18. In both which Paule speaketh concerning the offices and dueties of his Apostleship I know nothing by my selfe And The Lord shall deliuer me from euil worke For concerning the perticuler actions and practise of all his life these places of his franke confession shall for euer stand vntouched I do not the good that I would but the euil that I would not And I haue not yet attained the marke nor am not perfect Beside what soeuer may be saide for Paules holie life yet hee reasoneth absurdlie frō him to vs as if he should haue said A man can carrie a hundreth waight therefore a childe can do the same The 1. Ioh. 5. 4. hurteth his cause for the beginning of the verse is whosoeuer is borne of God ouercommeth the world which we acknowledge namely the worke to be a doing euen from the first day of our effectuall calling The other part of the verse is and this is the victorie which hath ouercome the world to wit our faith wherin if his eies had serued him he might haue séene that our present victory is placed not in actuall but in imputatiue righteousnesse onely that is in such righteousnesse as wee haue in Christ by faith which surely should not be if we had here an absolute power And whereas he saith there is nothing so hard or strong which by Christ we shall not be able to performe ouercome he saith trueth but the question is not betwéene vs what we shalbe able or how much we shall attaine vnto finally But whether our strength be at full to do good and our power absolute in this life therevnto I haue graunted before not onely an imputation but also an inchoation of inherent righteousnesse in all that are truely sanctified which though it be not in like measure with euerie one yet is it in a true measure in the weakest and such as hath continual