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A19060	A refutation of M. Ioseph Hall his apologeticall discourse, for the marriage of ecclesiasticall persons directed vnto M. Iohn VVhiting. In which is demonstrated the marriages of bishops, priests &c. to want all warrant of Scriptures or antiquity: and the freedome for such marriages, so often in the sayd discourse vrged, mentioned, and challenged to be a meere fiction. Written at the request of an English Protestant, by C.E. a Catholike priest.	Coffin, Edward, 1571-1626.	1619 (1619)	STC 5475; ESTC S108444	239,667	398

in Scripture and alleadged by M. Hall for the mariage of Priests with his other proofes for their practise are examined and refelled the vow of Chastity is proued to be lawfull and not impossible § 1. Of the testimonyes and examples of the ancient Fathers Councells especially the Trullan and historyes produced by M. Hall for the mariage of Priests and Clergy men § 2. The later Part of M. Halls letter is examined the fiction of S. Vdalricus his epistle to Pope Nicolas the first is refuted Gregory the seauenth defended withall is declared the practise of our owne Countrey euen from the Conuersion vnder S. Gregory § 3. 5. Further to satisfy your request I haue added another paragraffe which contayneth a more generall censure or suruey of M. Halls whole booke not that I taxe or touch as much therof as deserueth correction for some other more potent Index expurgatorius is necessary to blot out all the faults and to purge either by water or fire this impure stable but for that out of these which I haue taken you may make a coniecture of the other which I haue left and more fully be able to conceaue the worth of this writer whome to me you haue so much extolled for all his painted wordes serue to no other end then to make the simpler sort to swallow down more greedily his poysoned pills whiles they see them couered with such golden phrases of superficiall cloquence and vrged with so great shew of zeale as if the man meant nothing but truth whiles he plainely gulleth them with most open lyes Of these thrids is this net wouen which catcheth so many of the weaker people much like as S. Hierom sayth to the web Hier. ep ad Cyprian Presbyt of spiders that catcheth weake flyes by birds and beasts is broken a sunder telam araneae texunt sayth he quae parua leuia potest capere animalia The Heretikes weaue a spiders web which is able to catch little and light creatures as flyes gnats or the like but by others of more strength is broken in pieces the light and more simple sort in the Church are deceaued by their errors when as they cannot seduce such as are strong in the truth of fayth So he of all heretikes and I of M. Hall Read what I write then belieue as you find this Paragraffe is long and beareth this inscription A detection of sundry errours committed in M. Halles writings which he shall do well either to amend or els heereafter to be altogeather silent § 4. The length of the thing makes me sometymes as occasion serues to speake to M. Hall sometymes to the Reader sometymes to your selfe no other thing is to be noted and for that the rest is directed to you alone I will not heer giue you the farewell but referre that vntill I come to the end of the whole The doctrine of the Apostles expressed in Scripture and alleadged by M. Hall for the marriage of Priests and his other proofes for their practise are examined and refelled the vow of chastity is proued to be lawfull and not impossible §. 1. BEFORE I descend to the particulers of M. Halls Apologeticall discourse for the marriage of A censure of M. Hals manner of writing Ecclesiasticall persons this briefly in generall I must say thereof that I haue not read a more loose base ragged peece of worke or so many impertinences couched togeather in so narrow roome in any matter or writer of cōtrouersyes which I haue seene betweene the Protestants vs as in this which made me wonder to behold one so busy of so little ability for the learning he euery where sheweth is lesse then meane though his malice be great doth still ouer reach his knowledge and surpasse all modesty but much more did I meruaile to see such passions so predominant in him as he could not conteyne them within some of the boundes of his owne Characters of morall Courtesy but was transported by their violence so far as to transgresse not Christian charity only but euen the prescript of common ciuility as euery where you will see for in this short Letter vpon no occasion or ground at al he breaketh forth into such base and reproachfull tearmes vseth such insultations and insolencyes such false accusations and impostures against Catholikes as will loath any modest man to read and must needs argue little wit and good intention in the writer who in so graue a matter is forced to stoop to so Ruffianly demeanour 7. And truly this base spirit seemeth to be so habituall in M. Hall as I can expect nothing M. Halls railatiue speaches taxed from him in case she should reply but whole cart loads of contumelies so fast they do flow from him and so little power he hath to bridle these impetuous motions of his discomposed mynd that notwithstanding in his vowes and meditations he say that if he cannot tame his passions Lib. 2. §. ●● that they may yield to his case yet at least he will smother them by concealing that they may not appeare to his shame yet so vnable he is to do the one or the other as that euen where shame should haue withholden him most I meane in the pulpit deputed for the word of God and instruction of the faythfull in deliuery of which we can neuer be to graue or modest euen there I say he could not conteyn but in two sermons hath vttered more vnsauery filth then the Iesuits take them al togeather haue done in two thousand or in all the sermons of theirs extant in print so different are their spirits therefore no meruaile if he beare them such implacable hatred for thus in one sermon he sayth If euer you looke to see good dayes of the Ghospell the vnhorsing and confusion of that strumpet Pharisaisme and Christianity pag. 55. of Rome c. Againe dost thou thinke he sees not how smoothly thou hast dawbed on thyne whorish complexions and yet further in belying the Iesuits wherin he is copious without end malicious without wit and railatiue without measure A poore widdowes cottage sayth he fild the panch of that old Pharisy how many faire patrimonyes of deuout yong gētlemen druryed by them pardon the word it is their owne the thing I know can witnes haue gone down the throats of these Loyalists let their owne Quodlibet and Catechisme report And is it tolerable trow you thus with lying ribaldry to intertayne the people gathered to heare his sermon is this the word of God which he doth preach is this the modesty of the Gospell and for the two books which he calleth their own it is his own vntruth for they were composed by their enemyes I meane by men of as much credit as himselfe and one of the writers publikly at his death recalled what he had written and craued pardon of the Iesuits for the wrong of the world for the scandall which he

to be naught with another ma● for which cause the sayd Father in his Canon● to Amphilochius putting downe the pennance of Epist 3. can 60. such who after the vow of chastity had falle● into that sinne sayth peccati adulterij tempus conplebit such a one shall fulfill the penitentiall time of the sinne of adultery which thing is more exaggerated by S. Ambrose vpon the like occasion who doubted whether any pennance be Ambros ad virg lap cap. 5. great inough for so foule an offence for thus be writeth Quae se spopondit Christo sanctum velam accepit c. she who hath betrothed her●selfe to Christ and hath receaued the holy veile is already marryed is already ioyned to her immortall husband and now if she will marry by the common Law of wedlocke she committeth aduowtry she is guilty of death So S. Ambrose And would these Saints trow you euer vse su● vehemency or shew such zeale if these vowe were filthy vnlawfull or diabolicall No no. Their saintly spirits abhorred such sensuall vncleanes and brutish doctrine 48. Neither were the Fathers content to call this sinne aduowtry but they further added that it is worse then aduowtry So expresly S. Loco citato Marke this M. Hall Chrysostome Legitima iusta res coniugium c. Wedlocke is a lawfull and good thing c. but to you it is not now lawfull to obserue the lawes of wedlocke for one who is ioyned to the heauenly bridegroome to forsake him and entangle himselfe with a wife is to commit adultery and although a thousand tymes you will call it a marriage yet do I affirme it to be so much worse then adultery by how much God is greater and better then mortall men By which proportion we may see of what sanctity the impure marriages were which Luther Bucer and other renegate Friers did make with Nunnes how lawfull it is to breake these vowes and finally what is to be thought of such marryed Apostata Priests as still speake honourably of matrimony that therby they may seeme not out of frailty good men but out of meere deuotion to commit adultery or rather a greater sin planè August de bono viduit cap. 11. non dubitauerim dicere sayth S. Augustine lapsus ruinas à castitate sanctiore quae vouetur Deo adulterijs esse peiores Certainely I dare affirme the falls and slidings away from that more sacred chastity Basil hom quo pacto amit●imus recuperamus imaginem Dei which is vowed to God to be worse then adulteryes So and in so playne tearmes S. Augustine 49. And this so grieuous a sinne is tearmed by S. Basil S. Ambrose sacriledge Quando se Deo semel authorauit sayth the former per vitae continentiam ac perpetuam castitatem hoc detrectare non licet c. When one hath bound himselfe by vow vnto God by continency of life or perpetuall chastity is it not lawfull for him to slide back and so warily he must keep himselfe as he would keep a present or sacrifice offered to God least our Lord at the day of iudgment condemn him as guilty of sacriledge So S. Basil and against him who had abused the virgin before mentioned out of S. Ambrose thus doth the same Father Ambros ad virg lap cap. 8 exclayme De te autem quid dicam fili serpentis minister Diaboli violator templi Dei adulterium vtique sacrilegium c. What shall I say of thee the sonne of a serpent the minister of the Diuell the deflowrer of the temple of God who in one filthy act hast committed two sinnes to wit adultery and sacriledge sacriledge for that through thy mad rashnes thou hast polluted the vessel offered to Christ dedicated to our Lord c. Neither is it only a double but a threefold sinne for besides the adultery and sacriledge they also commit incest Christus Dominus noster cùm virginem suam Cyprian Epist 62. sibidicatam sanctitati suae destinatam iacere cum alter● cernit quàm indignatur irascitur quas poenas inincestuosis eiusmodi coniunctionibus comminatur Christ our Lord and Iudge how doth he abhorre how is he offended when he seeth his virgin dedicated by vow vnto himselfe and deputed to his holynes to lye with another and what punishment doth he threaten to these incestuous copulations sayth S. Cyprian Quae post consecrationem Lib. 1. Iouinian nupserint non tam adulterae sunt quàm incestae Such virgins as after their vowes and veiles shall marry are not so much aduowtresses as incestuous sayth S. Hierome 50. Finally this base thing either for practise or opinion was neuer vsed or taught but by the enemyes of Christ his Church which point is worthy of speciall consideration for as we in this and all other points do adhere vnto the ancient Saints and Fathers whome we reuerence admire and follow so doth M. Hall his vnto such as they haue censured discarded condemned that is we ioyne with Catholikes they with heretikes we tread the plaine The progenitours of our English Protestants in the breach of vowes beaten path of truth they of errour such as we follow were the lights and shining lamps of the world their progenitours were the shame and steyne of Christianity The first that I can find recounted in particuler to haue put this filthines in practise was one Tiberianus who hauing writen a booke to cleare himselfe from the heresy of Priscillian reuolted againe vnto the same Tiberianus Boeticus sayth S. Hierome taedio victus exilij Hier● de viris illustr in Tiberian●● mutauit propositum iuxta sanctam Scripturam canis reuersus ad vomitum suum filiam deuotam Christo virginem matrimonio copulauit Tiberianus of Andalusia in Spaine ouercome with the tediousnes of his banishment according to the holy Scripture like a dog returning to his vomit caused his daughter that was a Nunne to marry and he who first taught this to be lawfull was Iouinian Formosus Monachus as the same Father painteth him out crassus nitidus dealbatus quasi sponsus semper incedens A fayer Monke fat neat white going alwayes as gay as a new marryed man And a little after Rubent buccae nitet cutis comae in occipitium Lib. 2. ●● Iouinian frontemque tornantur protensus est aquiliculus insurgunt humeri turget guttur de obesis saucibus vix suss●●● verba promuntur His cheekes are red his 〈◊〉 fayre and smooth his locks behind and befo● are frizeled his belly beares compasse his sho●ders rise aloft his throat swells and his st 〈…〉 gled words can scarce find passage through ● fat chaps 51. This man so fine as most of you Min●sters so fat perhaps as Marcus Antonius de Do●● that could not passe to the pulpit a●beit ● proceeded nothing so far as M. Hall doth to● the vow vnlawfull filthy and a brand of Antichrist●nisme

had giuen by his bookes But M. Hall himselfe will needs out of his kindnes forsooth enter for a wittnes in a thing which he doth know to be true but this you must vnderstand to be only a Puritanical truth which is nothing els but a starke lye as in the last paragraffe shall be declared for these men neither in printed bookes or pulpits are to be belieued if they speak against Catholikes specially if they raile against Iesuits wherein they vse all lawlesse liberty and in despight of truth will lye for the aduantage 8. Which point is not only the triuiall subiect of their ordinary sermons I meane to lye M. Halls passionate sermon of our Sauiours passion to vse such loathsome tearmes as none in such occasions would vse but themselues but also in the most graue and holiest matters as of our Sauiours Passion of all theames the most sacred that on good friday at Paules Crosse they cannot refraine so as no place tyme or theame i● able to bridle the vnbridled passions of our English ministers for this man speaking of pardons or Indulgences which I thinke he vnderstandeth not in his Passion sermon he very modestly saieth of the Catholike Roman Church that strumpet would well neer go naked if th● were not and further talketh or rather tatleth o● Antichristian blasphemy furious bulles that bellow ●● threats and tosse them in the ayre for heretikes and th● like much lesse beseeming the pulpit then ● fooles cap the preacher But of this dealing of his I shall after haue more occasion to warn● him and by this little you may see how iustl● now and then I am moued to vse a rough wis● to scoure so vncleane a vessell Let him be mor● temperate and I will neuer be sharp if stirre● thereunto by his example I should obserue Lege● talionis let him thanke himselfe who withou● all example or occasion offered did first prouo● me thereunto though yet notwithstanding hi● prouocation I intend not paribus concurrere telis ● encounter him in the like stile with maledictum pro maledicto leauing that as hereditary to Protestants my words shall still beseeme my selfe haue modesty and truth for their characters they shall offend no chast eares and as little as may be M. Halls patience which yet I take to be very tender vnles it be where he offends others of much better credit and esteeme then himselfe and that also shall be rather for his correction that he may see his owne errour and amend it then for any ill will I beare his person or delight I take in that veyne of writing But to proceed 9. Although that M. Hall be euery where M. Halls Thrasonicall vanting though he performe nothing virulent against vs as you see yet is the man very fauourable and ouerweening towards himselfe for albeit he scant vnderstand the true state of the question he treateth albeit he produce nothing but eyther by wrong interpretation misunderstood or by corruption forged or of it selfe counterfayt and albeit he neuer bring true authority one only excepted and that of no credit that toucheth the controuersy no argument that concludes nothing in fine of any weight or moment yet doth he so vaunt euery where ouer his aduersaries so aduaunce himselfe is so couragious and confident as though he were some great Golias waging war with Pigmeyes and that his aduersaryes were so far from withstanding his force as they durst not stand before him or endure his assault for as though that God and man conspired in this without all contradiction he telleth vs that if God shall be Iudge of this controuersy it were soone at an end and to vs he cryeth out heare ô ye papists the iudgment of your owne Cardinall and confesse your mouthes stopped and of himselfe that if I fre not this truth let me be punished with a diuorce yea so light doth this graue man make this controuersy and the truth thereof on his behalfe so cleere as though none but some Carpet knight did doubt of it or dispute against it some idle table talke saith he calls vs to pleade for our wiues perchance some gallants grudge vs one who can be content to allow themselues more for a scholler to refute table-talkes or yong gallants is as you know no great maistery nec habet victoria laudem 10. But presently forgetting his yong gallants and table-talkes he bordeth vs and neuer leaueth vs till the end of the epistle so as his whole scope is to disproue the single life of Catholike priests and thereby to impugne our doctrine in that behalf in which fynding other aduersaries then yong gallants or idle table talkers and stronger arguments then he knew how to dissolue being on the one side vnwilling to be silent and on the other not able to performe what himselfe desired and friends expected like a right Crauen flyeth out of the feild neuer so much as looking on the proofs for our assertion which to much affrighted him as being all endorsed with a noli me tangere but seeing many obiections in Bellarmyne out of Caluin Melancthon the Magdeburgians and others answered and so answered as he could make no reply the poore man was driuen to that exigent as he was forced to borrow from thence the obiections but without any mention at all of any solution giuen by the Cardinall and so he commeth forth with his answered arguments as with broken shafts and florisheth in the ayre and vaunteth aboue measure 11. You may thinke perhaps that I extenuate too much M. Halls learning or exaggerate too M. Halls argumēts in Bellarmine and their solutions dissembled far his insufficiency for being reputed and taken for a scholler he could not but see the discredit that would follow of such dealing but in this I will make your selfe witnes yea a iudge also for the bookes themselues will speake and there needeth no more in one who vnderstandeth Latin then to bring his eyes reade both Authors for what place of Scripture doth M. Bellar. de Clericis l. 1. c. 20. c. 1. Tim. 4. 1. Tim. 3. Hebr. 13. Hall produce that is not there answered there he shall see his text of the doctrine of Diuells explicated there that other Let him be the husband of one wise there lastly how marriage is honorable in all and yet not lawfull betweene brother and sister Father and daughter frier and nunne or in any person that hath vowed the contrary there of the Apostles wiues in generall of S. Paules in 1. Cor. 9. Philip. 4. particuler for Councells there the Canon of the Apostles and the sixth Synod there Pope Steuens decree there in fine is the history of Paphnutius reiected the letter of S. Vdalrick disproued the examples of marryed Bishops answered so as there is all the sap and substance of this letter refuted for on these thinges specially doth it rely and yet as if nothing had beene sayd vnto them