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A47197 The way cast up, and the stumbling-blocks removed from before the feet of those who are seeking the way to Zion, with their faces thitherward containing an answere to a postcript, printed at the end of Sam Rutherford's letters, third edition, by a nameless author, indeed not without cause, considering the many lyes and falshoods therein, against the people, called Quakers, which are here disproved, and refuted / by George Keith ... Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661. 1677 (1677) Wing K233; ESTC R19568 115,272 246

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and sensible enjoyments of himself and blessing them more abundantly with the fruits of holyness righteousness and victory over corruption in that despised way then formerly they ever witnessed although their experience of any things that were true among them called presbyterians was not short of many if not of the most of them even in that day Pag. 1. l. 18. That which this great Seer much upon his Masters secrets because he had frequent access to lean his head upon his breast who come ou● of the Father's bosom foresaw would follow upon this turning aside and fall upon the head of such forsakers of a Church so often honoured by receiving signall testimonys of the great Bridgroom's love towards her as his Spouse c. Answer 3. I wonder how this man hath the confidence to call this Author a great Seer and to tell us of his being much upon his Master's secrets becaus he had frequent access to lean his head upon his breast who came out of the Father's bosom for these and such like expressions do plainly imply Immediat Revelation and that S. R. was a prophet and had the Spirit of Prophecy in the same sense as any of the Prophets who were Pen-men of the holy Scripturs for what higher elogies could be given to any of the most eminent Prophets then these here and elsewhere given by him to this Author And here I shall set down some other expressions parallel to these in the Postscript or rather surmounting them to be found in the Epistle to the Reader whether one man hath writ that Epist●e and the Postscript is not materiall to inquire seing doubtless they are both of one profession if differing persons and he that writes the Postscript ownes the Epistle to the Reader In the beginning of that Epistle he tells us Considering how little need Master Rutherford as he calls him his Letters have of any mans Epistle commendatory his great Master whom he served with his Spirit in the Gospell of his Son having given them one written by his own hand on the hearts of every one who is become his Epistle c. This is the very same commendation that the Spirit of God giveth to Paul who was not behind the chiefest of the Apostles as you may read 2. Cor. 3 1 2 verses And indeed this is the greatest ground why we believe the Scripturs to be divinely inspired becaus the inward Testimony of the Spirit of God which is the Epistle commendatory written by Gods own hand upon the hearts of believers is the Seal of confirmation unto the Scripturs as being divinely inspired And seing GOD doth give the same Seal as this writer plainly affirmeth to S. R. his Epistles that he doth to the Epistles of Paul will it not prove that S. R. his Epistles are as really divinely inspired as Paul's Epistles were and then why may not S. R. his Epistles be put into the Bible with Paul's Epistles This question is the more pertinently put to this man and these of his profession becaus they do so argue against us the People called Quakers that if any of our words or writings be divinley inspired then we equal our writings to the Scripturs For this cons●quence if it hath any weight at all doth as much fall upon their heads as upon ours and if they do still make a difference betwixt the one and the other although both divinely in●pired can not we do the same But he proceedeth in his admirable commendation of this book thus as being a piece the holy Scripturs being set aside equall to any the world hath yet seen or this day can shew in respect of the spiritualness of it A friendly testimony indeed I remember the Presbyterians had wont to commend Calvin's Institutions above any book in the world next to the Scripturs according to these Latine verses made on them Praeter Apostolicas post Christi tempor a chartas Huic peperere librum secula nulla parem And I have heard an eminent Presbyterian Preacher in his pulpit commend the Confession of Faith with the Larger and Shorter Catechism set out by them called the Assembly of Divines at Westminster above all books in the world except the Scriptur But now both Calvin's Institutions and the Confession of Faith must give place to S. R. his Epistles yea and most books in the world besides I write not this to lessen any due worth that belongs to S. R. his Epistles for I acknowledg having read them all over once and many of them severall times I find many savoury expressions in them that savour of that blessed life of Christ revealed of God in my heart yet I must needs say I find also very many unsound and unsavoury expressions in them that the life and Spirit of Christ doth not onely not beare witness for but against as I may afterwards shew 4. I do really believe that there are divers books in the world besids the Scripturs nor shall I bring into the compari●on our Friends books lest any say I am partial more sound and more spirituall then this book is and which are more profitable to direct the minds of them who are strangers to Christ where or how to find him little or nothing of which I can find in all this book of S. R. onely somewhat of his own experience but I can not find in him any certain and clear directions certainly and in●allibly directing strangers how to attain to the least true spirituall experience nor can I find the least hint or shaddow of a testimony in all his book to the saving power and efficacy of that universall Light of Christ wherewith Christ hath inlightened every man that cometh into the world which blessed heavenly divine testimony I find in many of the Ancients for which cause a few lines of them are of more value to me and all who love Gods Vniversall Gift then this whol book of S. Rs. And I question not but many having as much of a spirituall tast and discerning as any Presbyterian will affirme that the writings of not onely Augustin and the like Ancients but of later writers in darker times as of Bernard Thaulerus Thomas a Kempis and that little booke called The Dutch or German Theology are fully as ●pirituall though I am farr from justifying any errours in these books as neither do I the errours in S. R. his Epistles And although I know the Presbyterians some of them as have seen and read the Dutch Theology account it a most dangerous book and full of bla●phemyes as I. L. did call it expresly to I. S. whereof both B. F. I were witnesses in Holland yet Luther doth commend it as one of the best books he had met with next to the Scripturs and Augustin and teaching more sound Divinity then all the Divines in Germany or any where else in that time and he wrot an Epistle commendatory of it which is prefixed to it in some Editions a printed coppy
been among them It is easily answered that they did not ow this piety to the Presbyterian Church but to the Grace of God which is Vniversall For the Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath shined in All so Beza translates it Tit 2 10 11. and this Grace teacheth to deny ungodlyness and worldly lusts and to live righteously and soberly and godlily in this present world And whoever in any age or place of the world joyned their hearts unto this Grace and did believe and obey its teachings it made them good and pious men so that they did excell others in many good things although by reason of the darkness and corruption of the ages and places where they lived the prejudice of education and custom prevailed so farr that they also were dark and ignorant in many things Yet the Lord regarding their sincerity winked at their ignorance in those things And thus the Apostle Paul takes notice of some among the Gentils in the time of Heathenism who were a Law unto themselvs and did by Natur to wit the Divine Nature of the Word ingrafted in them Iames 1. or by their own nature restored and repaired by the Grace of God as Augustin expounded that place the things contained in the Law such was Socrates among the Gracians whom Iustin Martyr in one of his Apologys did expressly call a Christian and classeth him with Abraham c. 2. Also all along the dark times of popery the Lord raised up some even in the very heart of the popish Church that excelled others in vertue and piety and were as Lights shining in a dark place and witnesses to the truth some in some things and some in others and yet even these men lived still in the Popish Church and in too many things were carryed away and tinctured with divers corruptions and superstitions Of this Illyricus in his Catologus ●estium veritatis giveth an account And the Author of Fasciculus temporum with divers other Historians And particularly our country-man Alexander Petry in his Church History from the year 600 unto the year 1600 as in the seventh Century Gregory called the Great and Isidorus in the eighth Century Iohn Damascen and Aponius in the ninth century Claudius Turinensis Bishop of Turin and Rabanus Maurus in the tenth Century a very dark age Theophilact Arch-bishop of Bulgaria and Smaragdus a Benedictin Abbot in the eleventh Century Berno and Fulbert Bishop of Carnatum in the twelfth Century Hugo de S. Victore and Bernard of Clarevall in the thirteenth age Gulielmus Bishop of Paris and Ioachim Abbot of Calabria in the fourteenth age or Century Dante 's Aligerius and Robertus Gallus this Robertus Gallus was a Franciscan Frier and had propheticall visions which were interpreted to him by the Spirit of God there is a Treatise under his name printed together with the Prophecyes of Hildegardis a Woman prophetesse in the Church of Rome of both whose Prophecyes Fox takes speciall notice in his Martyrology And in the fifteenth Century Vincentius a Venetian who also prophecyed against the Clergy and Theodorick Vrias There was also another Theodorick Bishop of Croatia that prophecyed in this same age that the Church of Rome should be brought to nought and that Iustice which hath been shut up in darkness shall come into Light and the true Church shall flourish in Godlyness more then she hath done In this age also lived Iohn Huss a pious and vertuous man whom the Papists burnt as an heretick and yet the same good Man retained divers Popish opinions Now in the sixteenth century the reformation from the grossness of Popery began by Luther in Germany and the Lord raised up divers other instruments in other nations as in France in England and also in Scotland and many worthy men dyed martyrs and sea●ed to the truth with their blood before the Presbyterian Reformation yea some that were Bishops in England dyed martyrs for the truth as Cranmer Ridly Latim●r Therefor albeit I grant that ther hath been divers pious men among the Presbyterians some who enjoyed communion with God in Spirit and some also who had a Propheti●all Spirit and were accompanyed with the power of God in their ministry 40 years ago upwards and were made blessed instruments of God to many soules in that day to whom the Lord gave signall Testimonys of his love and of his admitting them at times unto near communion with him among whom were chiefly Iohn Welsh Robert Bruce Davidson and Patrick Simpson and divers others concerning whom the Author of the fullfilling of the Scripturs gives an account And I do verily believe they were pious men and had precious feelings of the life and power of God which did at times accompany them in their ministry whereby many soules were reached and converted unto God And as touching some things related by the Author concerning these men I may afterwards in its due place take notice which will not a little make for the present testimony of the people called Quakers But all this will not in the least prove that the Presbyterian Natio●all Church was the true Church of Christ and needeth no further Reformation from many thing● then it will prove that the Popish Church was the true Church of Christ which as I have already mentioned had pious and vertuous men and some of them indued with the Propheticall Spirit Also the Episcopall English Church in the dayes of Q. Ma●● had very excellent men that were Bishops and some of them were burned for the truth yet thi● proveth not that the English Church was sufficiently reformed or that those called Puritans who would not conforme to her did sin or were guilty of Schisme And I suppose the Presbyterians will no● deny but Luther for piety and zeal may be compared with any of these in Scotland and yet Luther was no Presbyterian and the Lutherans have had since Luther divers excellent men of whom I ca● not forbear to mention Iohannes Arnd who hath writt a more Spirituall treatise of Spritual doctrin containing more spiritual and profitable Doctrin then any book that ever I could see writt by any Presbyterian and yet the Luther●ns differr fa●● from Presbyterians Nor should the Presbyterians in Scotland so exalt themselves above all other Churches becaus some in their Church were indued with a Prophetical Spirit for as I have already mentioned divers in the Popish Church had the Spirit of Prophecy as Fox in his Martyrology doth bear witness ● I must needs say that as for Spiritual doctrin some Mysticks among the Papists hav exceeded any P●esbyterian Writer that ever I could yet see And to speak freely that one little book De imitation● Christ● said to be written by Thomas a Kempis a Popish Monck is really to me a more usefull book for spirituall doctrin then all the Presbyterian books in the world that ever I saw and I believe hath fewer errors in it I except the last book concerning the
people even perfectly for no imperfect thing can enter into heaven Again see 1 part Ep. 20. We are fools to be browden and fond of a pawn in the loof of our hand living on trust by faith may wel content us This he speaks as reproving such who seek after spirituall feelings and sensible enjoyments of Christ which is according to his brethrens doctrine that teach We should not seek to live by sense to wit spirituall sense but by faith a grosse and unsound doctrine as if faith and sense spirituall were opposite whereas faith doth always in some measure imply some one spirituall sense or other for unlesse we spiritually heare or feel Christ in some measure we can not believe in him faith cometh by hearing saith the Apostle and is not faith a laying hold on Christ with the hands of our Soul and how can we doe this without all sense or feeling of him in a spirituall way Surely the natural and outward senses are no more necessary for the preservation of the naturall life then the inward and spiritual senses are necessary for the preservation of the Spiritual Life of the Soul Also he hath frequently in his Epistles too airy and frothy expressions no wise beseeming the weight of the matter those expressions relate unto as 1 part Ep. 120. Christ see●eth to leave heaven to say so and his Court and come down to laugh and play with a daft bairne Again 1 part Ep. 91. Will not a Father take his little dated Davie in his armes and carry him over a ditch or a mire Again 1 part Ep. 121. O if I could dote if I may make use of that word in this place as much upon himself as I do upon his love This is a hint of some of these many unworthy unsound and stumbling expressions which are to be ●ound in his Epistles which I had not medled with to discover but becaus many and especially the Publisher do so idolize this book of S. R. his Epistles as if there were none beyond it except the BIBLE 2. In my second Section I say that S. R. in his more pure times both experienced and declared of Immediate Revelation and the Spirits immediate teachings as his Epistles abundantly witnesse also that he plainly declareth he had the counsell and mind of God in some things not to be found in Scripture See for this besides the testimonys I have already cited in the answer these following 1 part Ep. 2. It was not without God 's special direction that the first sentence that ever my mouth uttered to you was that of John 9 39. Again 1 part Ep. 9. It is little to see Christ in a book as men do the World in a card 〈…〉 of Christ by the book and the tongue and no more but to come nigh Christ and hausse him and imbrace him is another thing Again 1 part Ep. 9. O his perfumed face his fair face his lovely and kindly kisses have made me a poor prisoner see there is more to be had of Christ in this Life then I believed we think all is but a little earnest a four-houres a small tasting we have or is to be had in this life which is true compared with the inheritance but yet I know it is more it is the kingdom of God within us Again 2 part Ep. 2. O blessed Soul that can leap over a man and look above a pulpit up to Christ who can preach home to the heart howbeit we are all dead and rotten Again 2 part Ep. 8. And sure I am it is better to be sick providing Christ come to the bed-side and draw by the curtains and say courage I am thy Salvation then to enioy health being lusty and strong and never to be visited of God Again 1 part Ep. 35. But at other times he will be messenger himself and I get the cup of Salvation out of his own hand Again O how sweet is a fresh ●isse from his holy mouth his breathing that goeth before a ●isse upon my poor Soul is swe●t and hath no fault but that it is too short But that he ●aith ●hat Christ drinketh to him is a froathy and un●avoury expression used by him in that same Epistle And 3 part Ep. 22. anent his transplanting he ●aith what God saith to me in the ●ussinesse I resolve 〈…〉 doe And 1 part Ep. 85. Now and then my silence burneth up my Spi●t but Christ hath said Thy stipend is running up with interest in heaven as if thou 〈◊〉 preaching and this from a Kings mouth rejoyceth my heart And 3 part Ep. 37. Christ hath said to me mercy Grace and peace for Marjon 〈◊〉 Again 1 part Ep. 154. We but stand beside Christ we goe not unto him to take our fill of him but if ●e should doe 〈◊〉 things 1. draw the curtains and make bare his holy face and then 2. clear our dim and bleared eyes to see his beauty and glory he should find many lovers This place is remarkable for it holdeth forth both immediat subjective and objective revelation according as the nationall teachers do themselvs define it and indeed his words in all these testimonyes import no less Again 1. part Ep. 201. O that ●e would strick out windowes and fair and great Lights in this old house this fallen down soul and then sett the soul near hand Christ that the rayes and beames of Light and the Soul delighting glances of the face fair God-head might shine in at the windowes and fill the house Again 1. part ep 32. now he is pleased to feast a poor prisoner and to refresh me with joy unspeakeable and glorious so as the Holy Spirit is witness that my sufferings are for Christs truth and God forbid I should deny the ●estimony of the Holy Spirit and make him a false witness Again 1. par ep 120. Lord let me never be a false witness to den● that I saw Christ take the p●n in his hand and subscribe my writs And part 3. ep 27. In privat on the 17 and 18 of August I got a full answer of my Lord to be a graced minister and chosen arrow hidden in his own quiver but know this assurance is not keaped but by watching and prayer These are but a small part of much more might be cited out of his Epistles as testimonys to immediate revelation and the immediat teachings of the Spirit yea to new revelations not to be found in Scripture and yet as I have above observed after all this he joyned with the assembly at Westminster to cry down all such immediat revelation and to affirme that God had committed his Counsell wholly to writing 3. And although many of those called Presbyterians cry up S. R. as a man of so great experience in the things of God yet I find himself ingenuously confess 1. part ep 46. that there is a gate yet of finding out Christ that he hath never lighted upon and saith he O if I could find it out
Sacrament of the Altar becaus for good reasons it is judged not to be his but a spurious birth of some other Writer and it is not to be found in some of the most ancient coppys This little book of Thomas a Kempis hath had an exceeding great reception among Protestants of all sorts onely some peevish narrow-spirited Presbyterians can not endure to hear it commended becaus writ by one that lived in the Church of Rome in a dark time and yet the doctrin of it excell●th that of their most spirituall Preachers It is a most unreasonable thing to cry up a faction or party or particular Church becaus of some excellent men that have been among them and perhaps zealous for that way 3. For indeed few Professions or Sects in Christianity but have had some excellent men in them The Baptists in Holland have had some also they had faithfull and zealous men that dyed Martyrs and were put to death by Papists And both Independents and Baptists in England had some excellent men among them whose labours no doubt the Lord did bless with his presence Few hills so barren but some exc●llent medicinal herbs grow upon them and in their bowells there are some mines of gold and silver and some deserts yeeld Diamonds and precious stones So I shall most willingly grant there have been holy and spirituall men in the Presbyterian Church that have known ●ommunion with God in spirit in a blessed measure and were faithfull in the talents given them of God And I believe their soules are entered into everlasting rest and their memory is as a box of precious oyntment among others of the Lord● Witnesses in other professions and places of the world And though they have been h●noured by receiving signal testimonys of ●he Great Bridegroomes love towards them as his spouse in re●oycing over them with singing and frequently helped to giv● him testimonys of their endeared affection to him ● Head Husband Supreme Lord and Governour yet I altogether deny that such high commendation doth belong to the National Presbyterian Church in the heap or indeed to any considerable part o● her for they who had any measure of true piet● among them did certainly beare as small proportion unto the body of the Nation as the white of the eyes and teeth in an Ethiopian or Black mor doth unto the rest of his body 4. But alas The Presbyterians in our days both Teachers and People are sh●mefully declined from the footsteps and spirit of those antient good men and this generation now living is no more of the true faith and spirit of these Worthy men then the Iewes that put Christ to death were of the faith and spirit of Abraham 5. But that the Presbyterian Church deserveth ●o such commendation as this Author gives her as ●eing so frequently helped to give him testimonys of ●er endeared affection to him as her head husband ●upream Lord and Governour we need goe no ●urther to bring witnesses to confute this then 〈◊〉 own treacherous practices upon every occasion 〈◊〉 had to shew her infidelity For although she ●●yed up the Presbyterian goverenment as being 〈◊〉 a Divine right and the onely government esta●●●shed by Christ in the Church yet at two seve●ll times the National Presbyterian Church when ●●elacy was imposed by the supreame Magistrat 〈◊〉 received it and at lest in outward appearance ●●atever she was in her heart turned Prelatical 〈◊〉 most shamefully conformed to that which 〈◊〉 hath often called Anti-Christian The first time was when King Iames the Sixth ●ught in Prelacy which lasted about 28 years And the second time when it was again introduced of late years and is at this present day remaining And I can not think that the Author of the Postscript thinketh the National Church of Scotland at this present time Presbyterian otherwise she is a great Hypocrit seing she doth outwardl● conforme to Episcopacy so that whereas there ar● reckoned to be in this Nation about a thousan● Parishes yet so farr as I can understand or learn● there is not One parish in all the Nation that 〈◊〉 k●ept it self intirely free from conformity And it 〈◊〉 welknown that the body of the Nation is conformed to Episcopacy and the farr greatest number● the Presbyterian Teachers conformed also 〈◊〉 some of them who were zealous for presbyteri●● government are become Bishops And inde●● they who have not conformed beare little or 〈◊〉 proportion considerable to them who have 〈◊〉 the Presbyterian Non conformist Teachers have g●●nerally manifested base and unchristian cowardi●● in running away from their flocks through fear suffering and exposing them to those they 〈◊〉 to be Wolves and some of them are fled beyo●● Sea Others lurk in corners here and there 〈◊〉 keep privat conventicles where many times 〈◊〉 preach Sedition against their L●wfull Prince instigation of whom that insurrection happ●●ed 1666. 6. And some of them have printed books in defence of the lawfulness of making wa●r against the Suprem Magistrat in order to reestablish the Presbyterian Government a way flat contradictory to the nature of the Gospel to the express commands of Christ and also to the practice of the primitive Christians to make any carnal or military resistence so much as in their own defence which lasted for hundreds of years so that it is but of later times that any professing the Name of Christianity did offer to defend themselvs by carnal weapons against their Lawfull Magistrats During the ten persecutions not so much as a shaddow of any such thing is to be found in Church history And yet as Tertullian gives an account who lived in the heart of those persecutions it was not for want of number or strength that they did not oppose themselves in their own defence but onely becaus they were Christians 7. And although suffering be a thing greatly commended and also commanded under the Gospell and is as S. R. calles it in one of his Epistles a great part of the Ministry yet I know not if the Presbyterians can instance one single person of them all since the late revolution that have suffered or do at present suffer for Conscience sake in a pure and cleanly way I mean for matters purely Evangelical and out of pure Conscience for such of them who did suffer had not keept their hands clean from too much incroaching upon affairs of the Stat and power of the Magistrat so that they had little cause to glory in those sufferings 8. And if the Presbyterians think they have had any Martyrs for Presbyterian government yet this will not commend their Church above the Episcopal which hath had its Sufferers also who have suffered unto death and whose Sufferings were as much matters of Conscience unto them as the Presbyterians was unto them Yea the Episcopal Church gloryeth that she had one of the most religious Kings that either then was or had been in the world for many ages a Martyr for her whose life was worth many