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A74862 Confidence dismounted. Or a letter to Mr Richard Resburie of Oundle in North-Hamptonshire, upon occasion, partly of a title page prefixed before a small treatise of his concerning election & reprobation, conflicting of six sermons preached by him about three years since, and lately published; the said title page bearing in front these words, some stop to the gangrene of Arminianism, lately promoted by Mr John Goodwin, in his book intituled Redemption Redeemed; partly also, a short preface or epistle prefixed by the said Mr Resbury to that his treatise. / By the said John Goodvvin, Minister of the Gospel. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1651 (1651) Wing G1160; Thomason E643_18; ESTC R206012 16,262 21

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preach another Gospel in effect and not that of Christ Jesus promise honor name and applause unto any man that shal but offer to smite either my person or writing with his tongue or pen though they speak or write neither truth nor any thing to purpose against either And Mr Resbury it seems hath harkened unto the encouragement of this Spirit and by his Title-page hath tempted the World to beleeve that he hath done some worthy thing against me in my Book of Redemption whereas it cannot reasonably be thought by any thing in his Book that ever he look'd any argument or line of mine in the face So far is he from answering any thing argued or asserted by me either {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} or {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Yet not content with the sound of his own Trumpet in the Frontispiece of his Book by which he would give the world to hope that he was preparing to battel against me he or some factor of his about the City have purchased the lowder blasts of two Trumpets more to make the same sound and have bought of two of our common Diurnalists their respective Out-cries or Proclamarees to call the world together to be Spectators of his learned valour against me and my Book Indeed in his Preface he supplies in most untrue and unchristian revilings of my person that which in his Discourse is wanting in weight and substance of matter for answer to my Book But the Spirit I spake of suggested it seems this unto him If thou beest not able to grapple with his Writings lay on load of reproach upon his person thou shalt have a good reward for thy labor as well in the one kind as in the other they shall prosper both alike in thy hand But Sir I beseech you by the love you either bear or pretend to bear unto the Lord Christ with what goodness of Conscience or face of ingenuity can you say that the main Truths of God concerning his Electing and Redeeming Grace asserted as you say by you in your Sermons have been by the daring hand of that unhappy man Mr John Goodwin in his wretched Treatise by him called but miscalled Redemption Redeemed been so highly assaulted when as you neither have shewed much less proved nor I have very sufficient ground to believe are able to prove that so much as any one no not the least of these Truths have been in the lightest manner assaulted by me in this Treatise Sir I trust you will suffer this word of Christian Admonition from him who God knoweth and your own Conscience may know is no enemy unto you nor to your peace nor to your honour or reputation that such causless groundless and wretched aspersions and reproaches cast upon your Christian Brethren as these will never make your face to shine with any true or permament lustre nor abound to your account in the great day In terming me an unhappy man you speak truth enough in one sence and little enough in another It is my unhappiness in point of honour and respects with men not to be believed when I speak the truth and much more that my speaking the truth should prove a stumbling stone unto so many and occasion their falling into the great and dangerous sins of hard speaking reviling persecuting with the tongue hating opposing calumniating the Truth manifested unto them In all this I am I confess an unhappy man But the Lord Jesus Christ himself was in all such respects as these an unhappy man also being set as well for the falling as for the rising of many in Israel But that he was a sweet savour unto God as well in those who perish as in those that are saved by him as well in those who fall by occasion of him as in those who rise he was a person thrice happy and blessed And I should deny the signal grace and goodness of God towards me if I should not judg my self happy in those not a few who have been built up by my hand in the knowledg of God in the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ in the peace and joy of their Souls yea and in the reproaches hard sayings and evil entreaties which I meet with from Mr Resbury and others in as much as these also work for me so much a better resurrection and a far more exceeding eternal weight of glory In what sence you call my Treatise of Redemption wretched I do not well understand If you mean it wretched in respect of the sad doom that hath befallen it by falling into the hands of such hard-spirited men as you and some others are who by unjust clamours and reviling set your selves to render the condition of it as calamitous and miserable as you can I confess your epithete of wretched may stand I think it is one of the wretchedest Treatises in the world in this sence But if you call it wretched in respect of the matter or native tendency and import of the Doctrine contained therein as if this tended or had any thing in it likely to make any person under Heaven wretched or miserable your Epithete it self is wretched in this sence because it directly tends to make men miserable and wretched by dividing their judgments and affections from such Truths which would make them happy were they received and submitted unto by them Whereas you seem desirous to pick a quarrel against my hand by terming it during I confess my hand and heart too are very daring venturous and bold in assaulting Error how strongly soever fortified by the judgments affections interests preoccupations Authorities credits writings of men That clear satisfying and convincing light of the knowledg of the Truth which God hath graciously shined into my heart teacheth my hand to war and my fingers to fight against all that is lesser and lower then God in the quarrel and cause of the Truth And if you count it a blemish or disparagement unto my hand to be daring in this kind it is a sign that your own hand hath little courage for the Truth nor that it dares lift up it self in the defence of it unless it hath a proud arm of flesh to stand by it and second it in the engagement But I perceive that Mr Resburies hand it self is daring enough whether in the cause of Error or of Truth when he thinks he hath hands enough with him to bring him off with honour though he be foyled Whether in calling my Treatise Redemption Redeemed I miscall it or no will in due time be judged by a streighter Rule then Mr Resburies sence or notion in the case and by a far more competent Judg then He. In the mean time you will give me leave I trust to marvel a little that you professing your self so devoted an enemy to that which you call Arminianism though I have cause in abundance to judg that you little know what Arminianism indeed meaneth should notwithstanding practise
Confidence Dismounted OR A LETTER TO Mr Richard Resburie of Oundle in North-Hamptonshire upon occasion partly of a Title Page prefixed before a small Treatise of his concerning ELECTION REPROBATION Consisting of six Sermons preached by him about three years since and lately published the said Title Page bearing in front these words Some stop to the Gangrene of Arminianism lately promoted by Mr John Goodwin in his book intituled Redemption Redeemed Partly also of a short Preface or Epistle prefixed by the said Mr Resbury to that his Treatise By the said JOHN GOODVVIN Minister of the Gospel Desiring to be teachers of the Law understanding neither what they say nor whereof they affirm 1 Tim. 1. 7. Nonnulli intelligentes citiùs volunt exagitare quod non intelligunt quàm quaerere ut intelligant non fiunt humiles inquisitores sed superbi Calumniatores Aug. de Temp. Serm. 72. Nusquam lego quid erras quid delinquis Pulvis sed lego quid superbis terra cinis Musculus in Esa. 64. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} chrisost. Hom. 7. ad Philip LONDON Printed by John Macock for Henry Cripps and Lodowick Lloyd and are to be sold at their shop in Popes head Alley 1651. Confidence Dismounted OR A Letter to Mr Richard Resbury SIR MEeting lately with a little Book published under the Name of one Mr Richard Resbury a Gentleman whose face to my best remembrance I never saw whose name I never heard of until now in the Frontispiece whereof and more especially in the Epistle to the Reader prefixed to it I found many hard and unchristian sayings uttered not onely against me which had been more venial but against those most blessed and important Truths of God for the vindication whereof against the contrary Errors being of most pernicious consequence as I have demonstratively proved which is indeed a thing in it self sufficiently manifest he was graciously pleased to stir up and arm my spirit I judged my self so far a a debtor to the honor of those truths asserted by me and to mine own innocency yea and to the interest of your comfort and peace also as to declare briefly unto you and to the World with you how inconsiderately that I say not unworthily you have vented your self both against a person who never did you nor meant you the least harm as likewise against those manifest Truths of God which stand ready prest to bless you if you reject not their blessing And first I cannot but with bowels of compassion over you take knowledg of that sad and most unchristian misdemeanor in you which I finde also in the generality of those whose Judgments are entangled and polluted with the same erroneous conceits of God his counsels and ways with you As the blinde and bloody persecuting Heathen of old were wont to put the Christians into Wolves and Bears skins and then to set Mastive dogs and other wilde beasts upon them to tear in pieces and devour them so do you clothe with and present the great Truths of God under reproachful names as of Arminianism Pelagianism and such like clamorous and scandalous imputations of Satanical device and then encourage your selves and embolden your Consciences to storm and rage and rail your pleasures against them But if that be a Gangrene of Arminianism which you charge me to have lately promoted I marvel under the shadow of what conceit or notion of hope you stile your piece Some Stop to it If you expect your Book should work after the manner of a charm or spell as I confess many such pieces do upon persons of weak and light apprehensions you have the same ground to honor your Book with such a title which you have for such an expectation But if you look that it should operate upon the Judgments and Consciences of men onely by that evidence and demonstration of the Spirit which shall appear in it doubtless you had very slender grounds to think that it should give any stop to the Gangrene you speak of I beleeve I have far better grounds to judg that it will occasion a further spreading of this Gangrene and give no stop at all to it They that are armed with Will and preoccupation against the Doctrines asserted in my Book of Redemption who are the onely persons with whom your Book is like to finde approbation and applause are far from the happy danger of being infected with the said Gangrene and therefore your Book is no ways medicinal unto them The whole need not the Physician A Gangrene cannot be stop'd where it never comes As for those who have conscientiously enquired into and diligently weighed the grounds of those Doctrines which you think to blast with an angry puff of Arminianism and have throughly tasted the spirit and life which reign in the Doctrines themselvs they are far enough out of the reach of your unhallowed Notions or from being taken in those snares of your ridiculous pretending to magnifie God and his Grace which you spread in the way of the simple And for such persons who possibly may be at present unsatisfied whether the Truth be on your side of the way or on mine but withall are seriously engaged as becometh those who are resolved not to lose their Souls for want of looking to in such a posture {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} to follow and if it be possible to finde out the truth your Sermons are much more like to bring the gangrene you speak of into their Judgments then any ways to stop or prevent it For doubtless such monstrous Principles such uncouth hard and horrid Notions and thoughts concerning God and his Grace which are the pillars of your Tenents and Discourse are not like to sway the Judgments or Consciences of conscientious Enquirers unless it be the contrary way Nor can I give any account unto my self why you should in your Title page pretend any thing soveraign in your Book against the danger of infection from me or what hath been written by me unless it be this viz. That this Book of yours having for some years as you acknowledg if not complain in your Preface or Epistle to your Reader layn upon your hands as a drug or dead commodity you thought by setting such a face or gloss upon it to make it vendible For as Erasmus sometimes said of Luther that poor Luther made many rich meaning by occasion of his writing against the Pope and such Doctrines which were the pillars of his Throne and Kingdom which whosoever would undertake to oppose or confute had great matters of preferment cast upon them so I perceive that my poor Writings are like occasionally to enrich many with credit approbation and applause from men and that as Caleb promised his daughter Achsah to wife to whosoever should smite Kiriath-Sepher and take it so doth that Spirit that is abroad amongst those that are called Ministers of the Gospel amongst us though they