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A09101	A discouerie of I. Nicols minister, misreported a Iesuite, latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man, is contayned a ful answere to his recantation, with a confutation of his slaunders, and proofe of the contraries, in the Pope, cardinals, clergie, students, and priuate men of Rome. There is also added a reproofe of an oratiuon and sermon, falsely presented by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome, and presented to the Pope in his consistorye. Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touchng [sic] the aute[n]tical copie of Nicols recantation.	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.	1581 (1581)	STC 19402; ESTC S120349	83,096	196

A Discouerie of I. Nicols minister misreported a Iesuite latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man is con●ayned a ful answere to his recantation with a con●utation of his slaunders and proofe of the contraries in the Pope Cardinals Clergie Studentes and priuate men of Rome There is also added a reproofe of an oration and sermon falsely pretended by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome and presented to the Pope in his Consistorye Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touch●ng the autētical copie of Nicols recantation IHS God hathe exalted him and geuen him a name whiche is aboue all names Philippens 2.ver.9 There is no other name vnder heauen geuen vnto men wherin we must be saued Act. 4 ver 12 A lyeing witnes shall haue an yuel ende Pro. 21. An non ex hac odiosa impudentia pullulabit mox impoenitentia mater desperationis Bern. Ser. 42. in Can. 1 A preface shewing different proceeding in ●atholicks and their aduersaries with a diuision of the booke into three partes 2 The firste parte contayneth a narration of Iohn Nicolls with a refutation of certayne vayne and false vauntes made of him selfe 3 The seconde parte contayneth a confutation of many malitious slaunders vttered by Nicolls againste Catboliques but especiallie and more in particuler against the Pope the Cardinals priestes and religious men the English studentes in Rome diuers particuler persons and againste the cittye of Rome it selfe where also the contraries to Nicols reportes are declared 4 The third parte contayneth an explication and defence of certayne controuersies misunderstood and absurdly peruerted by Nicols 5 Nicols oration sermon published in english since the writing of this booke pretended by him as made in Rome presented to the Pope are conuinced of forgery by manifest absurdities impossibilities and contradictions 6 Also there is added a late information from Rome of the true copie of Nicols recantation in that place 7 Lastly there is put downe an example 〈◊〉 a tast of Nicols talent in rayling at both sides TO the indifferente Reader IT IS one poynte among other o● very bare brokers to extol immoderatly very base wares And it is not the guise but of needye distressed warryers The aduersaries pouertie to receaue wi●h trōpet to place of dignitie euerie ragged and wandering fugitiue Which two thinges notwithstanding with no smal discredite of their owne cause some aduersaries of ours haue followed of late in soe greedye receauing and aduauncinge to the pulpet with measureles commendation one Iohn Nicoles farre vnfitte in mine opinion for soe great a doe beinge but a reiected thing of the contrarie parte a séelie grammarian and twise reuolted minister Whose recantation or rayling rather inuectiue published not long since from the Tower of London In februarie Ano. 1581. I coulde more willinglye haue pittied then aunswered knowing the mans féeblenes as I doe but only for that he surchargeth with slaunder soe manie other men yea Princes and states in that his declamation as it was harde for me whiche before god in my conscienes knewe all or moste of it to be forged to hould my peace in soe manyfest vntruthes and by silence to yelde credite to the manye malytious and reproche●ul reportes The dealing also of our aduersaries in this case and she like moued me not a little to answere whoe shame not to proclaime triumphes vpon soe base conquestes against their mother the Catholique Church whoe hath borne them and brought them vp and whoe if she would but a litle folow the same course Different dealing in Catholiques their aduersaries not in falshed and malice as they doe but in euident truthe ether by noting the knowen vices of her enemies which rather she soroweth and hartely be wayleth or in vaunting the gaine of suche as daylye by goddes g●ace returne againe from rebellion she might easely in bothe these things matche and ouermatche the lauishe tōgues of her reuoulted children were she not restrained by charytie in the one and by grauitie in the other For touching the first who doth not knowe that if in lewe of this and the like t●● notable infamous a●tes of ministers preachers onlye in this one Realme of Englande for the space of one doson years past Looke the crowne off●●● and other lyke recordes w●re ga●hered into some one booke ●or the vewe of the worlde they would be more in quantitie and in qualitie more haynous then al that they haue gathered by great laboure muche falshod in their seueral bookes out of the liues of the worste Catholiques for these thowsand yeres past ouer all the whole worlde And yet these men ●or●oothe came as prophetes to re●orme vs and our f●thers liues and ther●ore in reason should haue liued more exactly them selues And touching the second who dothe not sée the great varietie of important learned personages which from time to time vppon trial of the truthe doe retourn● vnto vs euen from their ministerie and they also of other qualitie and talente then séelye Iohn Nicols whoe in good soothe is not worthe the taking vp being sounde in the stréete and yet we vaunt not of eache thing in printe nor sturre we tragedies vpon litle trifles We are contente to leaue this to our aduersaries whose fraude or feruor is to make mountaines of molehilles and greate speache vppon small matter If any man wil doubt wh●ther such returne of Protestantes be made vnto vs or noe as I noted before passing ouer other places let him cast his eye but vpon these Seminaries and Colleges on this side the seas where English studentes are and he shal finde a great and principal part therof to haue bene in times past not onely of there religion but also towardes there ministerie Ministrye to Preisthode whoe on the contrary can not shew me any one Préest in these later yeres perverted by them I add in these later yeres for that albeit in the beginning of heresie when first the banner of sedition was raysed agaynst the Church great multitudes of people reuolted together as in al commotions is wonte to happe by some generall fa●se sugg●stion of the principal rebels Cause of former reuolting and present re●urninge yet afterward the heate being past and more calmer consideration coming in place men haue staied them selues and harkened to the cause and diuers also returned which in the first furie ranne out with the rest of which two sortes both the one and the other remayne better fortified for resisting of lyke error for the time to come The meanes which haue bene vsed generally to preistes taken these later yeres for I wil conceale tower matters in particuler for the withdrawing of them in religion haue bene many and strong and qualified in both extremities of rigor and alluremēt promises and minaces and yet so great is God his goodnes no one I say not any one hath vnto this day faultered But of ministers

lesse nowe For you knowe the saying Cicero Qui semel verc●undiae limites transierit eum gnauiter impudsntem esse oportet 1. Timo. 5. And S. Paule geueth but a hard sentence of those which haue brokē their first faythe and promise And as for that he addeth of his minde to be saued it is of small importance for I thinke that rare trobleth him litle as it maye appeare by the reste of his dealinges which I shall haue after occation to touche Slaunderinge of others WE HAVE had a vew in the former part The secod● parte of the one side of Ihon Nicols his tongue verie smothe as you sée cléere in his owne praise But now if we turn vp the other side also we shall finde it no lesse cankered and venimous in the slander of his neighboure then the former was currant in his owne cōmendation And here before I passe any further very gréefe of minde enforceth me to ●●eake a word or two in detestation of a certaine familier propertie of Ihon Nicols which is wilful malitious detraction● For as it is a great faulte to fauour detraction in any degrée or to vtter easily a true reproche to the infamie of any man soe to deuise lyes and slaunders without any reason or ground at all and to auouche thē of a mans owne knowledge as Ihon Nicols dothe is a poynt of a very deadly resolution made within the den of a desperat harte What cause I haue to vtter these wordes shall appeare in the sequel of this part which for more perspicuites sake I will reduce vnto certaine genaral poyntes acording to the diuersitie of parties which are slandered in the same But first by the way I am to examine a reproche layd down by Ihon● Nicols in the very beginning of his booke against all Catholiques by which you shal haue a gesse of his truthe in reportinge other maters héerafter A tast of Iohn Nicols truthe in reporting He saithe therfore amongest other thinges in his preface that Catholiques hould the soule of Aristotle to be in purgatorie thence to be deliuered by dirges and masses And this is the first and formest of his reportes against vs the whiche howe malitious grosse and impudent a slaunder it is all the world can witnesse which séethe our bookes wherin we hould more then the plaine contrarie For we are soe farre of from saying that infidels or heritiques goe to purgatorie as also we teach that manie Catholiques departe hence straight to hell for their wicked lyues and onlye such goe to purgatorie as dye in the fauoure of God This place is soe interpreted by saynte Aug in psa 37. li. 21. de Ciu. ca. 26. li. de fide ope cap. 10. in psal 80. but haue not dōne such penance for their sinnes as Goddes iustice requireth and therfore they are to be purged by fire after this lyfe and so saued as S. Paule signifieth 1. Cor. 3. by the interpretation of the holye Fathers We teache then as it maye appeare in the Councell of Florence in li●eris vnionis Orig. ho. 12. 13. in Hiero ho. 25. in Nu. ho 6 in Exod. Greg. lib. 4. dia. cap. 39. Beda in ca. 3. Luc. that there are thrée sortes ●f men which dye one verye good which ●oe straight to heauen one verye euill which goe straight to hel one meane be●wixt both which goe to purgatorie and ●here may be reléeued by the pietie of the ●iuing This was the doctrine of the Ca●holicke Church twelue hundred yeares ●ast sett doune by S. Austen a chéefe do●tour of the same Church in dyuers pla●es of his workes most plainlie as in his Enchiridion cap. 110. Whose wordes are these Doctryne about the dead iu S. Austens time Nether is it to be denyed that the ●oules of the dead are releeued by the pi●tie of their liuinge frendes when the sa●rifice of our Mediatour is offred for thē or ells almes are geuen for them in the Chruch but yet those things profit only those which deserued whiles they li●ed that these thinges might profit them after their death For there is a kinde of ●yfe nether so good but that it may need ●hese thinges after death nether so euill ●ut that these thinges may profit it after death But yet there is another kinde of ●ife so good as it needeth not thes things ●nd againe another so euil as it can not be holpē by those things when it is o●● gone Wherefore in this lyfe all me●●e● is to be gotten by the which a man may be releeued or oppressed after this lyfe● But let noe man hope to obtaine that at God his ●ande after he is dead which he neglected while he was aliue Wherefore these thinges which the Church doth vse for the commending of the dead are no● contrarie to the saying of the Apostle a● we shall stande c. for that eche man whiles he was yet liuing in flesh ● Cor. 15. gate him selfe this merit that those thinges might profit him For they do not profit euery man and why doe they not profit al bu● onely for the dīfference of lyfe which ec● man did lead in his body therfore when sacrifices ether of the aulter or of any o●ther almes are offered for all those tha● died in baptisme for the very good they are thankes geuing for the not very euil they are propitiations or intreatinges fo● pardon for the very wicked althoug● they helpe not the dead yet they comfor● in a sort the liuing Hitherto are S. Au●sten his words and he repeteth the ver● same againe in his seconde question t● Dulcitius and the like in his 21● booke o● the citie of God the 24. chapter Wherby it appeareth that his Church taught thē as directlye against our aduersaries as we teach now But of these matters we shal haue occasion to speake more in the thyrd part of this answere Onely here I meant to confute the slaunderous lye of Iohn Nicolls and to geue you some shewe of his shamelesse forhead wherewith I must haue often combate hereafter in this second part which now I beginne according to the diuision promised before of the principall parties slaundered in the same which for methods sake may be reduced to this order The order of this secūd par● First of the Pope secondlye of the Cardinalls thirdly of the prists and religious folks fourthly of the English studētes in Rome ●iftly of particuler persons lastely of the citie of Rome it selfe for that all these haue tasted of the whippe of Iohn Nicols tongue without exception Of the Pope Iohn Nicols for lacke of matter rather then malice could haue bene contēt as it séemeth to passe ouer with silence the Pope which now is but onely for breaking the custome of his companiōs and offending the appetites of his compartners whoe coulde not haue take● well the omittinge of the Pope beinge the principall obiecte of their diuinitye For which

there is noe good worke of charitie that may be deuised which is not exercised amonge the Citizens of Rome For proofe whereof we haue to consider that all néede commonly is founde in one of these 7 sorts of people Seuen kindes of men vppon whom the Romans vse principallye their charitie and consequently charitie to be shewed vpon them that is to say children sicke folkes straungers prisoners oppressed with debte oppressed with sinne and adiudged to dye Upon all these doe the Romanes exercise their déeds of charitie in great abundāce 1 Children Societas S. Spi●itu● And first for children the company of the holye Ghoste receaueth as many Infantes as come and because many are ashamed to bring their infantes thyther openly there is a secret place wher they may lay them downe and not be séene so that the multitude of infantes which are brought is very greate and commonlye neuer lesse then 200. and the number of Nurces there continually mayntained is neuer fewer then 100. Besides this societie there is another howse appointed for Orphan boyes in Antonines bathes Thermae Antonini and another for Orphan maydes in another place named gli quattro Coronati and ech howse receaueth ●00 All which children cominge to ripe age are distributed into two sortes the boyes some to learninge and some to handiecraftes the maydes some chuse to enter into Monasteries and the rest haue portions allotted them to be married away as shal be shewed more hereafter For sicke men 2 Sicke folkes the prouision of Rome is maruelous For besids the hospitalls which ech Nation hath there seuerally the Romanes haue made great prouision for all sicke men by their hospitalls Hospitalles in Rome which in number are many but fower doe excell aboue the reste If a man haue an ague then he may goe to the hospitall of S. Spirite S Spiritus if he haue a freshe woonde or hurt he may goe to the hospital of our Lady S. Mariae de cōsolatione if he haue an ache then he may goe to the hospitall of S. Iohn S. Io●nnis Lateranensis if he haue a festered sore or incurable desease he may repayre to S. Iames his hospitall S. Iacobi ad po●tā populi In al which places he shal finde as good prouision of meate drincke cleane beddinge phiscike surgerie and dilligente attendance for nothing as commōlie he could haue for his monie in the citie or rather better for which cause many gentlemen doe remoue from their owne howses to the hospitall of S. Spirite for recouerie of their health which hospital of S. Spirite hath commonlie noe lesse then 300. sicke persons in it with goodlie partitions for men and women gentlemen and of the porer sorte S. Iames his hospital receaueth in number 155. men and 45. women the other two hospitals receaue fewe lesse all thinges are kept so swéete and cleane in these hospitals that many noble women Ladies and gentlewomen doe repaier often thither to comefort the sicke as also verie manie gentlemen especiallie the holie daies bringinge with them some what or other to present vnto the sicke people for their comefortes These haspitals are thought to spende aboue 150. thowsande crownes by the yéere which depende for the most parte vpon the almes of the Romanes 3 Straungers Towching straungers the liberalitie of the Romans is very great for besids the particuler hospitalls which are in Rome for euerie countrie there are diuers hospitals of the Romanes appointed out for the receite and reléefe of poore straungers Hospitium ●riita●is But the hospital of the Trinitie excelleth all the reste which all the whole yéere of Iubilee Anno 575. was neuer emptie of great numbers of stra●gers and some dayes they receaued 14. thowsande together with aboundance notwithstanding of meate and lodging and with so good entreatie as diuers noble gentlemē of Rome would repaire thither to serue the saied Pilgrimes and to washe their féete for loue and deuotion For Prisoners 4 Prisoners the care of the Romans is singuler aboue al other nations in the worlde Societas charitatis For they haue amongst them a companie named the companie of charity which company by licēce of the Pope doth chuse euery yéere two officers for the reléefe of the prisoners the one a protectour who hath to defend the poore prisoners that are wrōged by law or otherwise The other a procter whose office is to make sufficiēt prouisiō for meat drincke other necessities for thē Thes mē also doe sée that al things passe orderly in the prisōs that all the prisōers haue diuine seruice said before thē daily that ther come euery wéeke once or twise preachers to preache vnto the sayed prisoners Lastelye that there be conuenient bookes of pietie and deuotion in euery prison tyed with chaynes for all to reade and that al books of scurrilitie and dishonestie be remoued thēce by which good meanes and other vsed by them many profite more in pietie by one monethes imprisonment then they had done before in many yéeres libertie 5 Men indebted For men indebted the Romanes take very charitable order For firste they haue a greate bancke of monye called mons pietatis Mons Pietatis out of the which al banckrupts or other poore people may borrow mony without intrest bringing a paune or sufficient sureties Secondly the company of charitie by helpe of other Romanes do deliuer out 80. ●uery yéere which are imprisoned for debt Thirdly the societie of S. Apostle vseth to goe aboute the citie and to enquire of poore gentlemen or gentlewomen whoe are behinde hand and are ashamed to aske helpe and if their debtes be not very excessiue they séeke meanes to discharge them 6 Lyuers in opē sinne Towchinge those that liue in sinne lewde lyfe or are in daunger to fall into the same the Romanes do practise great pietie For first towching maydes destitute of frendes Occations of sinne how much shunned in Rome which for néede mighte fall vnto an euill trade of lyfe they marrye euerie yéere of their owne charges aboue 500. as after shall appeare more in particuler Other they place in monasteries and 140. they maintaine from time to time in a howse named S. Catharins besides those which I named before Secondly for them that be married and can not agrée with their husbandes and by that mea●es are in daunger to turne to dishonest lyfe the Romanes haue builte a goodly monastery dedicated to S. Martha and named it Delle Mal Maritate Mal Maritate of S. Martha in which howse such yonge women may liue vertuously vnder the gouernmēt of certaine graue Noones vntil they be reconciled to their husbāds againe Thirdlie for them that are now dishonest and will be conuerted they haue a howse to maintaine them in as I noted before called the howse of Conuertites The howse of Conuertites Lastly because they which once

fingers toes and eares are not bodies or deuisions of one bodye but partes and ornamentes of the same because they receaue all life norishment spirite from one soule soe diuers orders of religious men and women not differing in faithe but in manner of life in the Catholique Church are partes and ornamētes of the same church according to the propheci of her before made The Queen stood at thy right hand in golden apparel Psal. 45. enuironed with varieties These varieties are the varieties of states degrées professions orders in the Catholique Church which al agréeing in one fountaine of faith and taking norishment life and spirite from that vnitie of faithe as diuers members from one soule do not impaire but bewtifie the vnitie of that body which is the Catholique church and therfore are not to be called sectes as the Lutherans Caluinistes and Puritanes are which differ in matter of beléefe and doctrine For all that hath béene saide therfore or euer can be heerafter I doe not sée why our ●aith and Church is not proued true and ●ur aduersaries false by thes fower markes of Catholicke antiquitie succession and vnitie And if we once gaine this we néede noe longer to dispute of contr●uersies Hauinge ended this firste and chéefest matter of the true and false Church I must confesse vnto the reader that I am vnwyllinge to wade anye further with Iohn Nicolls in contention about particuler controuersies Cau●es whye● Nicolls is noe further answered in particuler controuersies Frste for that all the reste which he hath is oulde broken ware patchte vppe with péeces of soondrye bookes ether aunswered or reiected longe agoe which notwithstandinge is made woorse by his vnorderlye insertinge of it héere without iuste occation and especiallye by his adioynders vnto it of vnséemelye raylinge As after he hath vttered the obiections before mentioned agaynst the true marks of the Church he followethe with full mouth for dyuers leaues togeather agaynst Rome alleaginge Mantuan the Po●t and Budeus with Barnarde of Cluni●● without citinge anye place to proue that Rome had vices in it wherefore he con●●udethe and exhorte●he his bre●hren the preistes and other prisoners in the tower to leaue Rome and cleaue to Englande séeinge the Church of England had not soe many hereticks and churchrobbers in it as the Romane Church hath Secondly he rouethe soe wyde from the point of ech matter that he handleth as he séemeth to be ignorante both what we and his owne fellowes holde For aboute miracles and reuelations he laboureth much to proue that false miracles and reuelations are not to be credited which we graunt vnto him without proofe And touchinge Purgatorie and prayer for the dead and inuocation of Saintes he affirmeth them to be late inuentions of Popes and papists wheras his owne companions In his booke against P●rgatorie Pag. 306. 115.316.320 and against articles pag. 39. namly Fulke in his late answers to Doctor Allen and Doctor Bristoe confesseth that all those thrée erroures weare receaued i● the Church aboue 1200. yeares paste that is in the times of Augustine Ierome Ambrose and vppwarde and that those Fathers with other beléeued them also In oppugninge Images he bringeth a great heape of quotatiōs against idols thinketh that sufficiēt Against the Pope he disputeth not but raileth cōncludeth in the end with an impudent lye out of Phillip of Mornay saying That the Pope hath caused men to dispute that he is not simply a man but a partaker of the diuine nature with Christ. A malitious lye againste the Pope Sée the shamelesse foreheade I praye you of men blinded with malice The very wordes of the decretall alleaged are these talking of seperating of a Bishoppe from a certaine Bishoppricke which he held vnlawfully Not man but God doth seperate whom the Bishop of Rome vicegerent in earth Prope Innocētius de transl cap. quanto not simply of a mā but of him which is also true God doth seperate rather by Godes authoritie then mans vppon consideration ether of the necessitie or vtilitie of Churches Thyrdly he hath a propertie ether of ignorance or malice to tyre his answerer by cyting of things which are not to be found albeit they be such for the most parte as we would graunt without citing As for example he alleageth S. Austen li. 2. ca. 20. de consens euang against séeking of Christ in paynted walles but noe such thinge is founde there nor yet occasion of anye lyke matter He alleageth S. Chrisostome hom 30. in Math. repeting the Pharisées words to Christ which albeit it toucheth not the matter yet noe such thinge is to be séene there He citeth William Nubridge li. 2. ca. 15. 25. for S. Thomas of Canterburie his wordes to the Bishoppe of Menze against Rome A newe kind● of alleaging● doctou●s but noe such matter appeareth in that place nor any mention of the Bishop of menze He citeth Allen Cope dial 1. pag. 18. for false miracles before Images in our Churches but read the place and you shal sée there noe lyke argument handled He alleageth S. Basil mistrusting his owne workes in psa 32. which although it be not against vs yet must I note that noe such thinge is there to be séene I could geue dyuers other examples but this is sufficient to which do you add that he nameth almost twentie authores without citinge any place and many things without naming any author As for example where he vrgeth his fellow prisoners the priestes that came from Rome with this greate authoritie in latine and after englished One sayethe that whiles the Romishe preistes endeuour as much as they can to preach thinges in shewe agreeable to health of soules then teach they noe few things tending to perpetuall distruction of soules This one that sayeth this is ether Iohn Nicols onely or els some other of lesse credite then himselfe if it be possible to finde a creature of lesse credite And was not this a forcible texte trow you to be recited in latine out of the pulpet and to be translated in english and to be vrged in that audiēce for the stirring of hatred againste those learned and vertuous priestes Fowrthly it is a world to sée what his demeanour is in the places rightlye alleaged Nicols conclusio●s for first of nothing he wil inferr any thing and commonly his consequēt hath noe coherence or affinitie with his antecedēt I haue geuen some examples before as because Iobe sayeth that olde men vnderstand not alwayes iudgemēt therefore antiquitie is no good marke of the true Church Because Christ sayed to his desciples little flocke therefore the lesser congregations amongeste Christians haue alwaies the better fayth in religion I coulde shew you hundredes of these illations through out his booke Secondly if his wit serue him not to draw some false consequente from the place then audacitie supplieth to corrupt it by translation whereof besides that which hath bene

knewe not the contentes of your sermon Or if they had vnderstood it how could they haue thanked you for so many foule slaunderous reproches vttered against them and Gods cause in this your new diuised sermon Dothe the Pope geue men leaue to reuile him Gods church and afterward rewardeth them with thankes It is to euidente how much you abuse your new friendes Ihon and yet it wil be much m●re euidēt er many wéekes passe when autentical testimonies shal be published of this matter Letters are gone to Rome as you prophesied and wil retourne such newes thence shortly as will make your beste friendes ashamed of your doinges I can not but maruaile at certaine of my countrie men whoe otherwise being of a very greate capacitie for partial affection in religion can be contente to be abused by suche absurde scroles as Iohn Nicols casteth abroad Wherin besides the lacke of truthe ground and learning there wanteth also common iudgment and discret●●on Marke I pray you what decent kind of spéeche he vseth in a booke which was for the Quéenes Maiestie to read Speakinge of the studentes of the English● Colledge moste excellente younge men and suche as contende in learning with the Spanishe and Italian and geue admiration to other countries wherof Nicols was absolutly the worste and reiected thence as vnable for that companie Nicols speec● absurde to a Qu●ene after his bragge that all learned the latine tongue of him he saith They haue such blockheades that studdye philosophie there as M. Dodipole Oliuerius M. Doater Docter I woulde saye Mushe with twentye more c. And again They cannot preache ether for that they quaffe to muche wine or supp to much potage c. And againe making odious comparyson betwixt these studentes of Rome and the hand-craftye ministers of Englande whome hée disgracethe with the reproche of stitching and cobling preachers he saith What Preachers in Englande by Nicols reporte There was not one amōgest threescore that could preach as well as our common taylers shomakers in England And againe talking of his owne state h●e saithe very grauely I meane to abide in England hap wel or hap yl England hath no felowe better it is to liue in pouertie then to be whipped on the seas as I shold if I went ouer againe and be taughte to rowe Nicols graue and wit●ye speeche hauing thervnto as good towardnes as Tom Colliar thy fathers man And againe talking of his booke he concludeth wittily in these wordes This booke is ended Momus hould thy peace for ther was neuer Momus that euer thriued vnlesse he became a mome for his laboure But perhapes you will saye this was in English his vein may chance to be better in latine In deed he affirmethe him selfe to haue been the only oratour of the Roman Colledg but me thinketh his latine epistle to the Quéen refuseth to bear him witnes excepte it be for that I vnderstand it not as in déed I doe scarsly in diuers places of the same as for example this houge heape of flatering wordes in the title Nicols veine in latyne Augustssimae serenissimaeque Principi cunctis honoris dissemina●i dispersique sermonis celsissimae sedis dignitatis sūmae amplitudinis atque amplissimorum graduum maiestatis ●itulis dignissimae c. Marye as his beginning is very harde and loftye so is the ending somwhat easie and familiar for hauing prated for the Queene thus he endith Papista tacet Christianus dicit Amen Sic concluditur Epistola det Deus bonū euentum Which in English is thus The Papist houldeth his peace the Christian sayeth amen soe the epistle endeth God send vs good lucke And what lucke Ihō meaneth by this he signifieth before in the same epistle where he exhorteth the Queenes Maiestie Nicols lab●●rethe for wages ad pauperum Scolasticorum inopiam subleuandam incredibili animi studio contendere et incumbere to contend and applye her selfe by all meenes to ease pore scholers needes And this is that perhappes which hath caused many good prelates as is reported to make publike collections for him in diuers shéeres abroade which if they continew and doe pay him wel his stip●̄d we shal want no bookes against Rome nor new inuentiō of lyes from time to time Nicols promised booke of pilgramage how true it i● like to be For so he promiseth that we shall looke shortlye for a booke of pilgrimage wherin we are al to be vndonne and for a taste of the truthe of that booke he hath put down 3. or 4. manifest lyes which he promiseth to repeate againe in that booke For firste he calleth this Pope a murderer and proueth it onely by the warres in the lower countries whereof he sayeth that this Pope is the onely cause As whoe would say the King of Spayne had not warre● there before this man was Pope Also he calleth him an adulterer sayinge the Cardinal of Sansisto in Rome to be his bastard whom al men know to be borne of his owne sister Besids this he calleth him a théefe for causinge some Abbotes and Priors in Italie to disburse some monie towardes the maintenance of the English Seminaries in Rome Rhemes as though this had bene théeuerie if he had done it as he did not or as thoughe the Englishe Seminaries did presse the Pope more then soe manye other as I haue named before maintained by him with greater charge But are not our aduersaries ashamed of these dealings do they not sée the taile of these stratagemes to reflect the discredite vpon their owne heads what a miserable cause is theirs which can not stād but by such deuices It is a world to sée what pillers of defence they haue what graue writers in their cause what bookes they suffer to come out against vs dayly Of late in the middest of our persecutiōs there came foorth a weightie worke of 40 shéets of paper made by one Thomas Luptō Luptons perswation fro● Papistrie intituled A perswasiō from Papistry he would haue saied a disswasion but that Papistrie perswasion began both with a letter Of this authors estate and callinge I can not yet learne but that he séemethe to haue bene some Musitian in time for that muche of his matter passeth from him in rime In his epistle to y● Queene To the great comfort and ioy as he hopeth of her highnes being framed by him not trowblingly but louingly vnto her subiectes This mans drift is as he sayeth to proue all Papistes to be englishe enemies and extreme enemies to England which in effect he proueth thus Papists doe loue the Popes law Luptons arguments against Papists the Pope he loueth not God almighties law the Quéenes Maiesty she loueth God almighties law her law is al one with his how thē can the Papists loue their Quéene country Againe the Papists cry vpō their Quéene Mary and we cry vpō our Q. Elizabeth And is not Queene Elizabeth I praye

you as wel a Kings doughter as Queen Mary as wel a Kings sister as Queene Mary as lawful Quéene of England I wil not say more as Queene Mary why then how can Papistes be otherwise but eng●she enemies and extreme enemies to Englande These and the lyke arguments in sense though not altogether in the same wordes he dilateth accordinge to his kind of eloquence through out all the firste parte of his booke though he make noe parts at all In the seconde parte he wandreth by certaine controu●rsies but as without al wit and l●arning lyke an english doctour citing all his matter out of Iewels defence of the Apologie For his Martyrologe and Cowpers Epitomye of the Cronicle soe without al modestie or limitation of lying For he saieth that the Papists hold Pag. 99. 96. 99. The Pope to be very God the light of the world and the Saueour of mankinde that they printe him in their bookes L●ptons lyes Our Lord God the Pope that the Pope also acknowledgeth the thinge taking him selfe in deed to ●e a God 100. 98. 172. 193. 131. 171. 5.6 That he dispenseth both against the oulde and newe Testamente * See of this the societie of the name of God before men●ioned let not the Puritanes glorie as thogh they only did ●orbid swearing That he biddeth vs not to forbeare swearinge any day that he aloweth al priests to haue harlots that he geueth licence for monye to keepe as many concubynes as a man wil● that his fast is to crāme in as many banquetinge dishes as men can that all Papistes are wor●e and deserue more death thē drūckerds● theeues murderers and pirates This is Luptons charitable doctrine with many thinges more which I omit In his third parte he proueth his religion b● euident and manifest miracles out of M● For his Acts and Monumēts As for example that one Bu●ton bayliff of Crow●and in Lincolneshire LuPtons miracles Pag. 294. for compelling a Curate to say Masse vpō zeale of papistrie in the begininge of Queene Maries dayes was afterwards for his punnishmente called K. by a crow that fl●w ouer his head and besides that his bearde embrewed with the crows doūg that she let fal vppon him which doung did soe stincke vpon his b●arde as made him continuallye to vomite for diuers dayes * Simple fellow● that ●org●t ●y cutting o● his b●arde to saue his lyfe Pag. 92. vntill he died most miserably Againe that in King Henries daies the Earle of willshyre and others goeing to Rome as Embassatours to the Pope refused to kisse the Popes foote when he helde it out to them at what time the Earles dogg hauinge more deuotion to it as he sayeth then they not only went and kissed the Popes foote but also snatched at his great toe * Poore Pope y● had no chamberlaine to ●epe out dogs signifiing therby that it was a parte more fitte for doggs to kisse then men All these thinges and many more the lyke he proueth out of M. For his Martirologe otherwise called Acts and monuments tied with long chaines in all Churches of Englande to be read with deuotion After Thomas Luptō followeth Thomas Knell of the same predicament but in a higher degrée For he to the vtter extirpation of Papistrie from the face of the earth taketh vpon him to proue that Al Papists whether they be teachers or hearers are in doctrine Schismaticks in faith hereticks in religiō hypocrits in worshipping Idolatours in obedience traitors by nature dogs in māners hogs vnfaithful to all men cōmō persequutors of the scriptures and Church of God Doe you not thincke we shal be vanquished whē our aduersaries armie hath such captaines and champions especially if ryming Elderton ioine with them Elderton●●●●●tle Ierkes for a ●esuite to become a trew● Israelite● assaultinge vs with his Ientle Iirckes cōdemning our cause from the tribunal of an ale bench Is not this a beggerly war●rap trow you which pawneth out such ragges for robes what miserable pouertie are our aduersaries brought vnto when they are faine to publish such scurrility for diuinity riming for reasoning shamelesse railing for orderly disputing but let them procéede on stil they can by no waye pleasure or profit vs more let thē publish Nicols booke of Pilgrimage wherin he promiseth to reuile vs frō top to toe to ring the larme bel against vs to power out al his venome at once to empt the very sincke of slaunder vpō our cause What shal this anoy vs or whom shal al this filth defile As long as their shal be ether honest vertuous learned wise modest noble or gētle mind in Enland so long shal we gaine by these their procéedings A new information from Rome of I. Nicols As I had finished deliuered this treatise to y● print ther came vnto me an honest discréet learned gētlemā frō Rome who affirmed that vpon the sight of I. Nicols booke ther other informatiōs of his doinges in England serche was made for his oration and sermon of ten shéetes of paper presented in Rome before the Pope and regestred as he saith in thrée paper volumes in the office of Inquisition The matter was easely found out and a coppie taken word for word by publique Notaries the cōmon scale also of the office was added vnto it and as this man remembreth the most of all the chéefe officers names subscribed but yet for some other further approbation as I thinke the thing is not hetherto sent from thence or at least not yet come vnto my handes Wherfore the Printer being not able to staye nor I certaine how soone it will come I iudg it not a misse to geue the reader some general intelligence of the matter vntil the thinge it selfe maye be published in print vppon the reporte of this discréet gentleman whoe bothe sawe it and read it and remembreth well the principal contentes therof First therfore he reporteth that Iohn Nicols made nether oration nor sermon in Rome nor that anye suche thinge is there regestred or remembred But only his recantation is ther to be séen of lesse then a shéete of paper in writen hand Nicols oration sermon of ten sheetes become an abiuration of lesse then one sheete together with a longe preface which preface is an ordinarie thing of that courte containing the causes of his repentance and voluntarie offering him selfe thither and the like After this Ihon Nicols commeth to put down his owne faultes committed before in England bothe in doctrine and life And for doctrine the reporter saith he hath numbred vp all the particuler heresies whiche euer he héelde or taught and this with very significante wordes as that he taught the detestable heresie of Luther against prayer for the dead the blasphemus heresie of Caluine against Christes real presence in the sacrament or the like Aboute lyfe the reporter remembreth not much in particuler but only that he saieth there Ego possedi duo