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A19142 A fresh suit against human ceremonies in God's vvorship. Or a triplication unto. D. Burgesse his rejoinder for D. Morton The first part Ames, William, 1576-1633. 1633 (1633) STC 555; ESTC S100154 485,880 929

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cause_n be_v mere_o a_o cause_n or_o else_o malefactor_n be_v not_o punish_v mere_o for_o their_o evil_a desert_n in_o the_o former_a testimony_n out_o of_o tertullian_n pag._n 484._o the_o rej._n translate_v meras_fw-la utilitates_fw-la any_o commodious_a use_n if_o mere_a commodity_n be_v all_o one_o with_o any_o commodity_n then_o mere_o for_o resemblance_n be_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o for_o resemblance_n and_o so_o the_o def._n deni_v tertullian_n to_o have_v condemn_v those_o ceremony_n he_o speak_v against_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o for_o resemblance_n with_o idolatry_n which_o yet_o tertullian_n do_v as_o plain_o speak_v as_o ever_o he_o speak_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o b._n jewel_n say_v the_o replier_n do_v urge_v these_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n mere_o in_o regard_n of_o resemblance_n of_o other_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a to_o speak_v the_o rej._n answer_v 1._o that_o jewel_n do_v not_o urge_v these_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n but_o it_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o 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