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A87511 Uniformity in humane doctrinall ceremonies ungrounded on 1 Cor. 14.40. or, a reply unto Dr. Hammonds vindication of his grounds of uniformity from the 1 Cor. 14.40. By Henry Jeanes, minister of Gods word at Chedzoy Jeanes, Henry, 1611-1662. 1660 (1660) Wing J510; ESTC R231583 113,930 100

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have made rather snares then lawes for his Church As if he had appointed sitting at the table in a communion or kneel●ng in prayer This is strange stufle 1. So much is granted as is desired viz. that God ha●h left nothing about his worsh●p undetermined in his word i.e. uncommanded and unforbidden particulary save only that which he could not command or forbid Now let any man think and judge whether it had not been possible for God in his word either to have commanded or forbidden the signing of those that are baptized with the signe of the Crosse as well as baptizing of them with water ● How can that too too bold and inconsiderate assertion be excused if our Lord had fixed or Commanded any one certain fashion of Ceremonies he had made rather snares then lawes for his Church If it had pleased God to command or forbid the signe of the Crosse in par●icular what snare had it been When God appointed all the Ceremonies of the Old Testament he did not I hope make snares for his Church though he did lay a burden upon it 3. Whereas the Rejoynd maketh sitting at a table in the Lords-Supper and kneeling at Prayer to be such things as the Lord could not command but as snares because sometime a Table may bee wanting or something to si● on or ability to sit and so of Kneeling this is as poor a snare to catch any man of understanding in as one shall lightly see made For 1. many affirmative Commandements of God there are which in extraordinary cases cannot bee fulfilled and cease to bind as praying unto and praising of God with our voice which is no snare to him that cannot speak The appointing of Wine for the Supper is no snare though some Countries have it not and some men cannot well drink it See Beza Ep. 2. Pareus and Symb. Sacram. lib. 1. cap. 9.2 I would know whether it had been a snare if God had appointed sitting at the Table with exception of such extraordinary cases if yea then much more when men appoint kneeling surplicing and crossing if no then our argument may proceed Kneeling in publique prayer might have been appointed without snaring as appearing before the Lord thrice in the year was appointed to every Male in Israel Deut. 16.16 For without doubt many men in Israel were by accident more unable to travel up to Ierusalem then any Christian that hath knees is to kneel After this observation of which the Rej saith it may be as wee will he answereth that our Lord hath left nothing absolute to the will of his Officers but hath left even ambulatory Rites under generall rules which will tye them as perfectly as if every one had been named and with lesse cumber 1. But this is nothing to the purpose because so the imperfectest Law that is in any Nation upon the earth if it be worthy the name of Law leaveth nothing so absolute to the will of inferiour Officers as that it should be without the general rules of Justice common good c. nay not without the rules of order and decency 2. Concerning the comparison of perfection betwixt generall and particular rules though enough hath been said before upon like occasion yet this I will adde If he meaneth that a general rule if it be perfectly understood and applyed doth as perfectly tye as particulars I grant it to be a truth And so was the Old Testament as perfect a rule of Christian Faith as the New Thou shalt love thy Neighbour as perfect as the six of the second Table But if hee meane that a generall rule is as fit and full for the direction of us imperfect men as particulars are then I think no man conscious of humane frailty wil beleeve him Neither doe I beleeve that he himself is so fully perswaded in crossing the baptized by any rule which he hath out of Gods word for that as hee is for baptizing by the rule of that The ●epl having as he thought sufficiently grounded the generall that a perfect Law leaveth nothing more then needs must unto inseriour officers goeth on to assume that in the worship of God all but particular circumstances of order might easily be as indeed they were appointed by Christ and therefore need not be left to the Churches wisdom Upon this it pleaseth the Rej. to say little to the purpose in many words 1. He saith that circumstances of order were not harder to determine than those of decency Now it is plaine enough that the Repl here naming order did also understand decency though he named order only 2. He asketh what School of Divinity hath taught the Repl. to say that our Lord forbore the determining of such circumstances because all else was easie I answer no rule of Divinity did ever teach the Repl. to say so nor yet the Rejoinder to impute unto him what he never said But if he meaneth as it seemeth he doth because it was not so easie to determine circumstances of time and place as real worship I then answer that this as I think the Replyer learned out of that Divinity School out of which the Def. and Rejoinder learned That which they cite out of Calvin pag. 15 16. Junius is cited to the contrary out of Cont. 3. l. 4. cap. 17. n. 12. which place the Rejoinder looked upon by occasion of the Replyer his former citation of it But he in that very place distinguisheth betwixt Laws properly so called and cautions leaving onely cautions to the Churches liberty which is the very same that the Repl. meaneth The plaine truth is that supposing Gods will to be we should worship him in any place and at any time fitting it was necessary that the particular choice of fitting time place should be left undetermined to any particular time or place exclusively Calvin also is cited as more comely expressing the cause to be that Christ would not than that he could not determine such matters Now though Calvin being so excellent in his expressions may easily be granted to have expressed the same meaning in more comely manner than the Repl. Yet here was no cause of noting disparity For the Repl in saying all things but particular order and decency may bee easily appointed did not say what Christ could doe but what might be easily for us appointed or with our ease or with the ease which we doe conceive of in Law giving or of an ordinary Law-giver having such authority as Christ had And who doth not see that it is not so easie to appoint every particular place and time wherein God shall be worshipped throughout all the world as with that worship he shall bee served For that particular description a thousand books so great as our own Bible would not have sufficed The world as Iohn saith would not bee capable of the volumes that must have been written The Rej. himself pag. 89. ●elleth us of cumber and much ado that would have been in naming every