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in_o scripture_n xii_o ib._n according_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o use_v the_o word_n altar_n for_o table_n or_o the_o word_n sacrifice_n for_o worship_n as_o thanksgiving_n etc._n etc._n though_o with_o all_o the_o foresay_a caution_n and_o though_o god_n so_o use_v they_o in_o the_o scripture_n 1_o pet._n 2.5_o heb._n 13.15_o 16._o phil._n 4.18_o eph._n 5.2_o rom._n 12.1_o heb._n 13.10_o rev._n 6.9_o and_o 8.3_o 5._o and_o 16.7_o and_o that_o all_o the_o ancient_a writer_n and_o church_n sin_v that_o so_o speak_v xiii_o that_o no_o sober_a christian_n shall_v allow_v each_o other_o the_o liberty_n of_o such_o phrase_n without_o censoriousness_n or_o breach_n of_o charity_n and_o peace_n ibid._n pref_o fourteen_o ibid._n
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approve_v and_o use_v infant-baptism_n as_o consentaneous_a to_o the_o gospel_n as_o i_o before_o cite_v he_o §_o 7._o his_o next_o proof_n be_v dr._n prideaux_n say_v in_o his_o lat._n council_n that_o peter_n bruis_n and_o arnold_n of_o brixia_n be_v in_o the_o second_o lateran_n council_n censure_v for_o the_o heresy_n of_o reject_v infant-baptism_n etc._n etc._n answ_n i_o have_v seldom_o read_v a_o author_n who_o proof_n be_v like_a one_o another_o 1._o why_o must_v we_o be_v tell_v what_o dr._n prideaux_n say_v of_o the_o act_n of_o a_o old_a council_n as_o easy_o know_v by_o we_o as_o by_o he_o 2._o reader_n there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o proof_n of_o any_o such_o matter_n meddle_v with_o in_o that_o council_n peter_n crab_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o name_v that_o council_n binius_fw-la only_a tell_v you_o that_o the_o act_n of_o the_o council_n be_v not_o extant_a but_o that_o abbas_n vrspergensis_n and_o otto_n frisingensis_n give_v we_o some_o account_n of_o what_o they_o 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bruis_n and_o arnold_n be_v they_o to_o be_v believe_v of_o they_o but_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n prove_v §_o 8._o his_o next_o proof_n be_v from_o bernard_n of_o who_o i_o need_v to_o say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o cassander_n usher_n and_o other_o have_v oft_o say_v that_o it_o be_v the_o foresay_a manichean_a heretic_n call_v catharist_n that_o bernard_n describe_v by_o the_o name_n of_o apostolic_a and_o that_o he_o go_v by_o fame_n as_o leodiensis_n do_v which_o false_o accuse_v the_o albigenses_n among_o they_o as_o guilty_a of_o the_o same_o heresy_n and_o that_o the_o same_o bernard_n accuse_v those_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o of_o other_o heinous_a thing_n if_o you_o believe_v from_o he_o that_o the_o albigenses_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o one_o you_o have_v the_o same_o testimony_n that_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o other_o §_o 9_o his_o next_o proof_n be_v the_o report_n of_o a_o late_a papist_n jos_n vicecome_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 1._o who_o he_o also_o after_o 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because_o 1._o he_o know_v that_o cluniacensis_fw-la have_v give_v no_o such_o wicked_a and_o false_a testimony_n etc._n etc._n and_o how_o prove_v he_o that_o for_o both_o osiander_n and_o the_o magdeb._n from_o who_o he_o have_v it_o give_v a_o account_n of_o fifteen_o particular_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o do_v that_o prove_v that_o cluniac_a have_v no_o more_o 2._o do_v they_o say_v that_o those_o fifteen_o be_v all_o 3._o and_o do_v that_o prove_v that_o mr._n will_n know_v it_o who_o never_o say_v that_o he_o ever_o see_v cluniacensis_fw-la book_n as_o it_o seem_v mr._n d._n do_v not_o 4._o do_v mr._n d._n himself_o know_v it_o of_o a_o book_n never_o read_v see_v how_o this_o accuser_n prove_v lie_n for_o my_o part_n i_o have_v not_o at_o hand_n either_o cluniack_a or_o osiander_n or_o the_o magdeb._n
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have_v leave_v it_o indifferent_a and_o to_o their_o liberty_n but_o that_o they_o leave_v one_o another_o at_o liberty_n herein_o because_o 1._o the_o first_o and_o great_a work_n be_v in_o settle_v the_o church_n by_o convert_v jew_n and_o gentile_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o the_o adult_n who_o be_v the_o active_a member_n be_v they_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v most_o to_o do_v with_o and_o therefore_o who_o case_n be_v express_o speak_v of_o 2._o because_o it_o be_v a_o know_a thing_n that_o the_o infant_n of_o church-member_n have_v ever_o be_v church-member_n and_o be_v in_o possession_n of_o that_o relation_n when_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n set_v up_o baptism_n 3._o and_o it_o be_v a_o grant_v case_n that_o all_o sanctify_a person_n devote_v themselves_o and_o all_o that_o they_o have_v to_o god_n and_o every_o thing_n according_a to_o its_o capacity_n and_o therefore_o their_o infant_n according_a to_o their_o capacity_n which_o god_n himself_o have_v before_o expound_v 4._o and_o it_o be_v never_o the_o meaning_n of_o christ_n to_o lay_v so_o much_o on_o the_o outward_a wash_n as_o many_o papist_n and_o anabaptist_n do_v but_o as_o the_o uncircumcised_a infant_n in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v nevertheless_o church-member_n and_o save_v so_o when_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n by_o the_o parent_n true_a and_o know_a consent_n their_o damnation_n be_v not_o to_o be_v fear_v upon_o their_o die_v unbaptise_v by_o surprise_n 5._o but_o yet_o obedience_n to_o god_n be_v necessary_a many_o parent_n hasten_v their_o child_n baptism_n at_o two_o or_o three_o day_n old_a other_o staid_a till_o the_o eight_o day_n other_o longer_z and_o multitude_n have_v child_n that_o be_v in_o several_a degree_n enter_v on_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n when_o the_o parent_n be_v convert_v and_o it_o remain_v doubtful_a whether_o they_o be_v as_o to_o the_o covenant_n at_o their_o parent_n choice_n or_o their_o own_o and_o to_o this_o day_n there_o want_v not_o 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abundance_n delay_v their_o own_o baptism_n till_o age_n and_o many_o be_v backward_o to_o baptise_v their_o child_n lest_o childish_a folly_n and_o youthful_a lust_n and_o worldly_a temptation_n shall_v draw_v they_o to_o trample_v upon_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o on_o such_o account_n all_o be_v not_o baptise_a at_o one_o age_n and_o divers_a that_o be_v baptise_a at_o age_n upon_o their_o own_o conversion_n from_o heathenism_n be_v not_o sudden_o so_o know_v as_o to_o be_v acquaint_v with_o all_o the_o case_n about_o their_o child_n right_n but_o must_v have_v a_o considerable_a time_n to_o learn_v for_o it_o be_v be_v it_o speak_v without_o offence_n to_o strict_a man_n a_o general_n and_o narrow_a sort_n of_o knowledge_n which_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n require_v in_o the_o adult_n as_o necessary_a to_o baptism_n yea_o when_o they_o have_v at_o last_o keep_v they_o long_o under_o catechise_v for_o even_o in_o augustine_n time_n though_o all_o use_v the_o same_o word_n of_o baptism_n so_o few_o have_v a_o clear_a understanding_n of_o the_o very_a baptismal_a form_n or_o word_n that_o write_v ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la de_fw-la bapt_v contr_n donat._n he_o say_v that_o as_o to_o the_o mean_v of_o those_o word_n not_o only_o the_o heretic_n sed_fw-la ipsi_fw-la carnales_fw-la parvuli_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la si_fw-la possent_fw-la singuli_fw-la diligenter_fw-la interrogari_fw-la tot_fw-la diversitates_fw-la opinionum_fw-la fortassis_fw-la quot_fw-la homines_fw-la numerarentur_fw-la animalis_fw-la enim_fw-la homo_fw-la non_fw-la percipit_fw-la etc._n etc._n anon_o tamen_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la integrum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la §_o 22._o there_o remain_v a_o catalogue_n of_o my_o heinous_a error_n which_o he_o have_v put_v in_o the_o preface_n to_o his_o first_o edition_n and_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o second_o and_o which_o he_o and_o such_o as_o he_o have_v teach_v many_o honest_a weak_a people_n in_o london_n both_o anabaptist_n and_o independent_o to_o talk_v frightful_o and_o odious_o of_o from_o one_o another_o behind_o my_o back_n what_o shall_v i_o say_v to_o he_o and_o they_o shall_v i_o answer_v they_o that_o never_o speak_v or_o write_v to_o i_o shall_v i_o take_v this_o man_n accusation_n for_o a_o confutation_n or_o conviction_n be_v so_o deadly_a a_o enemy_n of_o antichrist_n conceit_v of_o a_o self-infallibility_a or_o that_o i_o must_v take_v my_o faith_n or_o trust_v from_o mr._n danvers_n though_o not_o from_o the_o church_n pope_n or_o general_a council_n if_o not_o what_o do_v the_o man_n think_v that_o a_o recitation_n shall_v do_v with_o i_o do_v not_o i_o know_v what_o i_o have_v write_v till_o he_o tell_v i_o §_o 23._o but_o it_o be_v other_o that_o he_o tell_v it_o to_o those_o other_o will_v read_v my_o own_o word_n or_o they_o will_v not_o if_o they_o will_v i_o will_v not_o be_v so_o