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command_v they_o pag._n 186._o 10_o he_o say_v that_o those_o which_o write_v the_o century_n suspect_v the_o cannon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n which_o forbid_v the_o election_n of_o minister_n to_o be_v commit_v to_o the_o people_n and_o doubt_v whether_o it_o bea_fw-mi bastard_n or_o no_o which_o be_v untrue_a for_o the_o author_n of_o the_o centurye_n make_v no_o such_o doubt_n pag._n 188._o 11_z he_o say_v that_o hierome_n will_v that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v power_n and_o authority_n to_o choose_v their_o clerk_n &_o their_o minister_n which_o be_v not_o so_o for_o hierom_n will_v no_o such_o thing_n pag._n 203._o 12_o he_o allege_v musculus_fw-la he_o word_n in_o stead_n of_o jeromes_n and_o that_o which_o only_a muscu_n say_v in_o his_o common_a place_n he_o ascribe_v to_o jerom_n in_o his_o epist_n to_o nepotian_n ead_n 13_o he_o say_v that_o nazian_a in_o a_o oration_n that_o he_o write_v at_o the_o death_n of_o his_o father_n confute_v those_o reason_n that_o seem_v to_o hinder_v the_o election_n of_o minister_n by_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o thing_n to_o be_v find_v in_o that_o oration_n pag._n 205._o 14_o he_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the._n 6._o and._n 7._o book_n of_o eusebius_n for_o example_n of_o election_n of_o the_o people_n &_o clergy_n confirm_v by_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n namely_o in_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o example_n in_o those_o book_n neither_o any_o mention_n of_o any_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n pag._n 207._o 15_o he_o father_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n upon_o eusebius_n lib._n 6._o touch_v origens_n admission_n into_o the_o ministry_n pag._n 209._o 16_o he_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n that_o open_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o council_n pag._n 222._o 17_o he_o again_o ascribe_v musculus_fw-la he_o word_n to_o jerome_n pag._n ead_n 18_o he_o deny_v that_o chrysostome_n make_v a_o 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that_o hierome_n and_o augustine_n speak_v of_o archdeacon_n in_o those_o place_n where_o they_o only_o speak_v of_o deacon_n pag._n 346._o 25_o the_o word_n of_o socrates_n be_v falsify_v pag._n 350._o 26_o he_o untrue_o report_v the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a pag._n 257._o 27_o he_o falsifi_v the_o meaning_n of_o tertullian_n allude_v that_o to_o ceremony_n that_o tertullian_n mean_v of_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o salvation_n pag._n 370._o 28_o he_o keep_v back_o the_o word_n of_o theodoret_n that_o explain_v his_o meaning_n pag._n 412._o 29_o a_o untruth_n concern_v jereneus_n avouch_v out_o of_o the_o five_o book_n of_o eusebius_n cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o pag._n eadem_fw-la 30_o he_o pervert_v the_o word_n of_o the_o greek_a scholiast_n pag._n 413._o 31_o he_o avouch_v a_o untruth_n of_o theodoret._n pag._n 415._o 32_o he_o utter_v a_o very_a uncharitable_a untruth_n of_o the_o worthy_a man_n m._n jewel_n bishop_n of_o sarisburie_n pag_n 422._o 33_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o 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authority_n in_o ecclesiasticalll_n matter_n and_o so_o do_v they_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n 6._o i_o have_v answer_v in_o the_o it_o the_o where_o you_o have_v not_o speak_v one_o word_n of_o it_o ten_o article_n of_o anabaptisme_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o answer_n be_v there_o very_o confuse_a and_o uncertain_a but_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o article_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o certain_a note_n which_o i_o have_v collect_v out_o of_o your_o book_n touch_v this_o matter_n in_o this_o my_o defence_n io._n whitgifte_n a_o exhortation_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 6._o sect._n 6._o to_o be_v short_a the_o papist_n refuse_v to_o come_v to_o our_o church_n to_o communicate_v with_o we_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o these_o man_n will_v not_o have_v they_o by_o law_n and_o punishment_n compel_v thereunto_o t._n c._n pag._n 8._o sect._n ult._n i_o answer_v that_o doeg_n when_o he_o say_v that_o david_n come_v to_o abimilech_n say_v nothing_o but_o truth_n and_o when_o they_o 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mislike_v of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n for_o nothing_o else_o but_o because_o it_o swerve_v from_o their_o mass_n book_n and_o be_v not_o in_o all_o point_n like_v unto_o it_o and_o these_o man_n mislike_v it_o for_o nothing_o else_o but_o that_o it_o have_v to_o much_o likelihood_n unto_o it_o and_o judge_v whether_o they_o be_v more_o join_v with_o the_o papist_n which_o will_v have_v no_o communion_n or_o fellowship_n with_o they_o neither_o in_o ceremony_n nor_o doctrine_n nor_o government_n or_o they_o which_o forsake_v their_o doctrine_n retain_v part_n of_o their_o ceremony_n &_o almost_o their_o whole_a government_n that_o be_v they_o that_o separate_v themselves_o by_o three_o wall_n or_o by_o one_o they_o that_o will_v be_v part_v by_o the_o broad_a sea_n from_o they_o or_o which_o will_v be_v bevide_v by_o narrow_a water_n where_o they_o may_v make_v a_o bridge_n to_o come_v again_o and_o displace_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o they_o have_v do_v in_o 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barnabas_n ordain_v elder_n whereby_o he_o will_v conclude_v that_o the_o congregation_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v but_o how_o slender_a a_o reason_n that_o be_v it_o may_v be_v consider_v of_o infinite_a place_n in_o the_o scripture_n whereof_o i_o will_v recite_v two_o or_o three_o in_o the_o fifthe_o chapter_n of_o josua_n it_o be_v say_v that_o josua_n make_v he_o sharp_a knyve_n for_o the_o circumcise_n of_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n and_o a_o little_a afterwards_o that_o josua_n circumcise_v they_o shall_v we_o now_o upon_o these_o word_n conclude_v y_fw-fr t_o josua_n do_v make_v the_o knife_n himself_o or_o be_v a_o cutler_n or_o be_v make_v to_o his_o hand_n do_v whette_v they_o and_o sharpen_v they_o or_o shall_v we_o say_v that_o he_o do_v circumcise_v the_o child_n of_o israel_n in_o his_o own_o person_n and_o himself_o alone_o when_o as_o that_o be_v do_v by_o many_o and_o by_o the_o levite_n to_o who_o it_o offyce_v apperteyn_v no_o but_o the_o scripture_n declare_v that_o josua_n procure_v sharp_a knyve_n to_o be_v make_v and_o exhort_v and_o command_v the_o people_n to_o be_v circumcise_v in_o the_o eyghtenth_n of_o exodus_fw-la it_o be_v say_v that_o moses_n do_v appoint_v unto_o the_o people_n prince_n captain_n over_o thousand_o and_o hundrethe_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o any_o conciude_v thereupon_o that_o he_o do_v it_o 15._o 1._o chap._n verse_n 15._o himself_o alone_o he_o be_v by_o and_o by_o confute_v by_o that_o which_o be_v write_v in_o deuteronomie_n where_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o people_n do_v choose_v they_o and_o present_v they_o to_o moses_n what_o be_v it_o then_o that_o be_v say_v in_o erodus_n that_o moses_n appoint_v they_o but_o that_o moses_n assemble_v the_o people_n and_o exhort_v they_o to_o appoint_v ruler_n and_o tell_v they_o what_o manner_n of_o man_n they_o shall_v be_v and_o in_o a_o word_n sit_v as_o it_o be_v moderator_n in_o that_o election_n to_o come_v to_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o the_o act_n it_o be_v say_v that_o paul_n and_o timothy_n deliver_v 16._o act._n 16._o unto_o the_o church_n the_o order_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n and_o yet_o it_o appear_v in_o another_o place_n that_o the_o church_n have_v also_o to_o do_v and_o give_v their_o consent_n unto_o the_o make_n 23._o act._n 15._o verse_n 23._o of_o those_o decree_n so_o that_o the_o former_a place_n mean_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n do_v go_v before_o and_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o director_n of_o that_o action_n the_o same_o manner_n of_o speech_n be_v use_v of_o the_o one_o the_o you_o say_v so_o but_o you_o show_v not_o one_o roman_a story_n wherein_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o counsel_n do_v make_v magistrate_n for_o because_o that_o he_o gather_v the_o assembly_n and_o voice_n whereby_o they_o be_v make_v and_o so_o s._n luke_n say_v here_o that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n ordain_v because_o they_o be_v the_o moderator_n of_o the_o election_n cause_v it_o to_o be_v make_v assemble_v 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&_o barnabas_n presbyteros_fw-la seu_fw-la ministros_fw-la elege_v unt_n in_o ecclesijs_fw-la asiae_n paul_n and_o barnabas_n do_v choose_v elder_n or_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n those_o place_n of_o scripture_n that_o you_o recite_v may_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v such_o manner_n of_o speech_n in_o the_o scripture_n but_o they_o prove_v not_o that_o this_o be_v such_o and_o therefore_o you_o have_v in_o vain_a rehearse_v they_o the_o example_n of_o josua_n be_v far_o from_o prove_a this_o phrase_n to_o be_v such_o sore_o you_o affirm_v that_o josua_n be_v say_v to_o make_v sharp_a knyve_n and_o to_o circumcic_a only_o because_o hcc_fw-la procure_v sharp_a knyve_n to_o be_v make_v and_o command_v the_o people_n to_o be_v circumcide_v and_o not_o because_o he_o himself_o bid_v sharpen_v the_o knyve_n or_o circumcyde_v in_o his_o own_o person_n but_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n have_v to_o do_v in_o this_o action_n and_o do_v themselves_o in_o 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every_o one_o that_o consent_v to_o order_n and_o subscribe_v unto_o they_o do_v not_o therefore_o make_v they_o wherefore_o they_o may_v proper_o be_v say_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n only_o though_o the_o people_n allow_v well_o of_o they_o and_o consent_v to_o they_o and_o therefore_o say_v m._n caluine_n the_o modesty_n of_o the_o people_n act._n cal._n in_o 15._o act._n herein_o do_v appear_v that_o after_o they_o have_v commit_v the_o decide_v of_o the_o controversy_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o doctor_n they_o be_v also_o content_a to_o subscribe_v to_o their_o decree_n whether_o there_o be_v any_o such_o manner_n of_o speech_n or_o no_o in_o the_o roman_n story_n it_o be_v not_o material_a neither_o be_v there_o any_o thing_n here_o speak_v which_o prove_v that_o this_o be_v such_o a_o manner_n of_o speech_n wherefore_o it_o must_v remain_v as_o proper_a and_o literal_o true_a until_o there_o be_v strong_a reason_n bring_v to_o prove_v as_o 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to_o he_o alone_o who_o know_v those_o that_o be_v he_o if_o they_o communicate_v with_o we_o in_o hear_v the_o word_n and_o receyve_v the_o sacrament_n though_o otherwise_o they_o be_v drunkard_n superstitious_a or_o infect_v with_o error_n in_o doctrine_n etc._n etc._n yet_o must_v we_o count_v they_o in_o the_o church_n until_o they_o be_v cut_v of_o from_o it_o by_o excommunication_n wherefore_o whoremonger_n papist_n idolatrous_a and_o superstitious_a person_n though_o they_o be_v know_v to_o be_v such_o if_o they_o do_v communicate_v with_o we_o in_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v count_v in_o the_o church_n until_o they_o be_v orderly_o seclude_v from_o the_o same_o and_o yet_o there_o may_v be_v papist_n atheist_n and_o such_o like_a though_o they_o be_v not_o common_o know_v to_o be_v such_o and_o you_o know_v well_o enough_o that_o they_o which_o in_o deed_n be_v papist_n in_o opinion_n yet_o if_o they_o be_v content_a to_o conform_v themselves_o to_o the_o 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which_o be_v of_o a_o dissolute_a life_n and_o behaviour_n that_o perteyn_v only_o to_o private_a familiarity_n and_o not_o to_o the_o public_a communion_n now_o if_o we_o ought_v to_o receyve_v the_o communion_n with_o they_o we_o ought_v also_o to_o account_v they_o in_o the_o external_a society_n of_o the_o church_n but_o why_o do_v you_o thus_o seek_v to_o shift_v of_o those_o matter_n which_o you_o can_v not_o answer_v be_v it_o not_o certain_a that_o there_o be_v in_o the_o external_a society_n of_o the_o church_n a_o far_o great_a number_n of_o such_o than_o there_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a as_o it_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v then_o do_v i_o still_o affirm_v that_o the_o election_n of_o the_o minister_n can_v not_o be_v safe_o commit_v to_o the_o people_n it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o prescribe_v unto_o the_o magistrate_n how_o to_o deal_v with_o such_o as_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n i_o pray_v you_o where_o 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that_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n if_o you_o have_v say_v that_o he_o may_v be_v in_o the_o power_n and_o at_o the_o will_n and_o pleasure_n of_o a_o christian_a magistrate_n that_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n i_o can_v well_o have_v like_v of_o it_o but_o it_o can_v not_o yet_o sink_v into_o my_o head_n that_o he_o shall_v be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o christian_a common_a wealth_n that_o be_v not_o also_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n concern_v the_o outward_a society_n m._n musculus_fw-la in_o my_o judgement_n speak_v true_o against_o this_o distinction_n of_o you_o betwixt_o the_o church_n and_o a_o christian_a common_a wealth_n in_o his_o come_v pla_fw-la it_o de_fw-fr magistra_fw-la let_v the_o ethnike_n and_o infidel_n live_v not_o in_o the_o unity_n of_o truth_n but_o in_o the_o confusion_n musculus_fw-la musculus_fw-la of_o error_n have_v diverse_a magistrate_n and_o lawmaker_n some_o profane_a and_o some_o holy_a because_o 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from_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v partly_o holy_a partly_o profane_a etc._n etc._n but_o all_o this_o from_o the_o purpose_n and_o you_o make_v to_o many_o frivolous_a digression_n from_o the_o matter_n which_o compel_v i_o also_o in_o follow_v you_o to_o do_v the_o like_a chap._n 6._o the._n 5._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 45._o sect._n 2._o five_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v no_o church_n establish_v be_v magistrate_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n no_o church_n establish_v and_o no_o christian_n magistrate_n then_o no_o christian_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v popular_a now_o there_o be_v christian_n magistrate_n and_o a_o church_n establish_v and_o subject_a to_o ruler_n etc._n etc._n t._n c._n pag._n 35._o sect._n 1_o if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n establish_v because_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrate_n than_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o establish_v
minister_n to_o be_v choose_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n than_o in_o a_o church_n be_v in_o prosperity_n and_o sure_o it_o be_v even_o like_a to_o your_o reason_n in_o other_o matter_n for_o first_o that_o which_o you_o say_v of_o the_o church_n round_o about_o for_o admonish_v correct_a or_o excommunicate_v that_o church_n that_o shall_v choose_v a_o unméete_a minister_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o the_o scripture_n either_o in_o commandment_n or_o example_n and_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a devise_n of_o your_o own_o head_n second_o it_o be_v most_o unlyke_a that_o the_o church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n shall_v choose_v a_o unméete_a or_o a_o wicked_a minister_n because_o those_o that_o be_v persecute_v themselves_o be_v godly_a and_o well_o dispose_v and_o careful_a to_o have_v such_o a_o one_o as_o they_o may_v safe_o commit_v themselves_o unto_o for_o though_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n there_o may_v be_v some_o hypocrite_n that_o 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6._o the_o seven_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 36._o sect._n 2._o 3._o now_o i_o will_v show_v you_o so_o you_o where_o find_v you_o that_o i_o think_v so_o which_o think_v that_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n in_o their_o minister_n can_v not_o stand_v with_o the_o time_n of_o a_o christian_n magistrate_n that_o it_o have_v not_o only_o stand_v but_o have_v be_v confirm_v in_o their_o time_n and_o by_o they_o in_o codice_fw-la justiniani_fw-la it_o be_v thus_o write_v follow_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o holy_a apostle_n suppress_v apostle_n the_o word_n of_o this_o constitution_n be_v crafty_o suppress_v etc._n etc._n we_o ordain_v that_o as_o often_o as_o it_o shall_v fall_v out_o that_o the_o minister_n place_n shall_v be_v boyd_v in_o any_o city_n that_o voice_n be_v give_v of_o the_o inhabiter_n of_o that_o city_n that_o he_o of_o thrce_o which_o for_o their_o right_a faith_n holiness_n of_o life_n and_o other_o good_a thing_n be_v most_o approve_a shall_v be_v choose_v 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be_v at_o all_o time_n necessary_a not_o in_o the_o respect_n of_o policy_n and_o government_n in_o consideration_n whereof_o he_o have_v the_o name_n of_o a_o archbishop_n chap._n 1._o the._n 21._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 64._o sect._n 3._o 4._o 5._o the_o last_o yourself_o last_o you_o 〈◊〉_d that_o against_o yourself_o nov_v ▪_o which_o before_o you_o be_v glad_a to_o use_v as_o a_o 〈◊〉_d for_o yourself_o refuge_n be_v that_o the_o apostle_n make_v mention_v of_o those_o function_n which_o have_v to_o do_v with_o the_o minister_a of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o not_o of_o those_o which_o have_v to_o do_v with_o order_n and_o discipline_n speak_v in_o good_a earnest_n have_v the_o apostle_n shadow_n apostle_n here_o he_o confute_v his_o own_o shadow_n nothing_o to_o do_v with_o discipline_n and_o order_n with_o what_o face_n can_v you_o take_v away_o the_o reins_n of_o government_n out_o of_o the_o apostle_n hand_n and_o put_v they_o in_o the_o archby_n shop_n and_o archdeacon_n hand_n what_o a_o perverseness_n be_v this_o that_o the_o ministery_n invent_v by_o man_n shall_v be_v prefer_v to_o all_o the_o ministery_n appoint_v and_o command_v of_o god_n the_o apostle_n for_o sooth_n have_v in_o common_a with_o the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n the_o power_n of_o minister_a of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v and_o thus_o far_o as_o good_a as_o the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n but_o for_o discipline_n and_o order_n the_o apostle_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v but_o herein_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n be_v above_o they_o and_o better_o than_o they_o io._n whitgifte_n you_o wonderful_o forget_v yourself_o for_o it_o be_v your_o own_o distinction_n as_o it_o appear_v 5._o page_n 64._o li._n 5._o in_o the._n 5._o line_n of_o the_o same_o page_n of_o your_o book_n and_o thereby_o you_o shift_v off_o the_o objection_n of_o deacon_n and_o elder_n i_o know_v no_o man_n that_o take_v the_o reins_n of_o 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government_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v in_o their_o time_n be_v now_o for_o the_o most_o part_n execute_v by_o archbyshop_n and_o bishop_n which_o be_v the_o overthrow_n of_o your_o whole_a assertion_n chap._n 1._o the._n 22._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 64._o sect._n ult._n now_o sir_n if_o i_o will_v follow_v your_o vain_a of_o make_v so_o many_o exclamation_n as_o oh_o the_o impudency_n oh_o the_o insolency_n with_o twenty_o other_o such_o great_a ohe_n you_o see_v sion_fw-la see_v indeed_o 〈◊〉_d have_v make_v yourself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sion_fw-la i_o have_v occasion_n both_o here_o and_o else_o where_o but_o i_o will_v not_o glad_o declaim_v especial_o when_o i_o shall_v dispute_v nor_o make_v outcry_n in_o stead_n of_o reason_n io._n whitgifte_n where_o have_v i_o use_v these_o exclamation_n or_o what_o cause_n have_v you_o so_o sudden_o to_o burst_v into_o they_o at_o this_o time_n except_o it_o be_v to_o set_v some_o countenance_n upon_o your_o evil_a favour_a reason_n but_o i_o will_v let_v you_o alone_o in_o such_o toy_n and_o suffer_v you_o to_o play_v with_o yourself_o chap._n 1._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 1_o but_o to_o come_v to_o this_o distinction_n i_o have_v think_v before_o this_o time_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v be_v the_o dream_n the_o sure_o the_o man_n be_v in_o a_o dream_n chief_a bvilder_n in_o set_v up_o the_o church_n now_o i_o perceive_v you_o make_v the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n the_o chief_a bvilder_n and_o the_o apostle_n under_o carpenter_n or_o common_a mason_n to_o serve_v and_o to_o ▪_o 1._o cor._n 3_z ▪_o take_v the_o commandment_n of_o the_o archbishop_n and_o archdeacon_n and_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o ministery_n which_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o be_v in_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n bind_v and_o lose_v only_o and_o that_o there_o be_v other_o which_o be_v beside_o these_o occupy_v in_o the_o order_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n of_o which_o number_n be_v archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n let_v we_o mark_v a_o little_a what_o deep_a divinity_n here_o be_v io._n whitgifte_n sure_o you_o wander_v you_o know_v not_o whither_o without_o doubt_n your_o mind_n when_o you_o write_v this_o be_v upon_o some_o other_o thing_n than_o upon_o my_o book_n for_o where_o have_v i_o make_v this_o comparison_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n and_o archbyshop_n or_o what_o have_v i_o speak_v sound_v that_o way_n i_o will_v have_v you_o to_o deal_v honest_o and_o plain_o if_o you_o mean_v the_o book_n in_o latin_a whereof_o you_o after_o ward_n speak_v the_o word_n of_o that_o book_n sound_v any_o thing_n this_o way_n be_v these_o archiepisiopi_n ab_fw-la èpiscopis_fw-la quoad_fw-la ministerium_fw-la non_fw-la differunt_fw-la omnes_fw-la enim_fw-la paripotestate_fw-la docendi_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la ligandi_fw-la &_o soluendi_fw-la praediti_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la quoad_fw-la ordinem_fw-la et_fw-la politiam_fw-la ordinis_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o politiae_fw-la causa_fw-la quaedam_fw-la ultra_fw-la episcopos_fw-la archiepiscopis_fw-la cencessa_fw-la sunt_fw-la archbyshop_n differ_v not_o from_o bishop_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o ministry_n for_o they_o be_v all_o endue_v with_o equal_a authority_n to_o teach_v to_o baptise_v to_o bind_v and_o lose_v but_o in_o respect_n of_o order_n and_o policy_n for_o some_o thing_n be_v grant_v to_o archbyshop_n for_o order_n and_o policy_n sake_n above_o the_o bishop_n and_o further_o answer_v that_o place_n to_o the_o ephesian_n it_o say_v apostolus_fw-la eo_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la eos_fw-la tantiòn_n ministr_n s_n &_o ministeria_fw-la enumerat_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o precibus_fw-la verbo_fw-la &_o administratione_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la versantur_fw-la non_fw-la eorum_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la ordinem_fw-la &_o disciplinam_fw-la instituuntur_fw-la qualia_fw-la sunt_fw-la archiepiscoporum_fw-la &_o archidiaconorum_fw-la the_o apostle_n in_o that_o place_n do_v only_o recite_v those_o minister_n and_o ministery_n which_o be_v occupy_v in_o prayer_n the_o word_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n not_o of_o they_o which_o be_v institute_v for_o order_n and_o discipline_n such_o as_o be_v the_o function_n of_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n the_o which_o selfsame_o distinction_n for_o that_o place_n you_o use_v 5._o pag._n 64._o lin_v 5._o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o 64._o page_z of_o your_o bóoke_n these_o only_a word_n except_v qualia_fw-la sunt_fw-la archiepiscoporum_fw-la &_o archidiaconorum_fw-la as_o i_o have_v before_o show_v and_o your_o own_o word_n declare_v and_o i_o be_o sure_a these_o word_n do_v not_o make_v the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n chief_a bvilder_n and_o the_o apostle_n under_o carpenter_n as_o it_o please_v you_o to_o collect_v but_o this_o be_v your_o modesty_n chap._n 1._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 2._o and_o first_o of_o all_o i_o will_v glad_o ask_v they_o with_o what_o advice_n they_o havelaide_v on_o a_o great_a *_o ▪_o what_o burden_n who_o have_v lay_v it_o on_o ▪_o burden_n and_o weight_n of_o the_o archbyshop_n and_o archdeacon_n shoulder_n than_o the_o apostle_n be_v able_a to_o sustain_v io._n whitgifte_n when_o you_o have_v tell_v where_o they_o have_v lay_v on_o this_o great_a burden_n and_o weight_n or_o what_o the_o burden_n and_o weight_n be_v that_o you_o say_v they_o have_v lay_v on_o or_o who_o they_o be_v that_o have_v lay_v it_o on_o then_o shall_v your_o question_n be_v answer_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v this_o suffice_v the_o reader_n that_o you_o do_v but_o forge_v matter_n to_o increase_v your_o volume_n and_o to_o sport_v yourself_o chap._n 1._o the._n 24._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 3_o secondary_o i_o ask_v with_o what_o boldness_n and_o upon_o the_o confidence_n of_o what_o gift_n any_o man_n dare_v take_v upon_o he_o both_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n do_v and_o more_o to_o io._n whitgifte_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v as_o to_o the_o former_a chap._n 1._o the._n
25._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 3_o then_o i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v too_o too_o unskilful_o do_v to_o separate_v order_n and_o discipline_n from_o then_o that_o have_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n in_o hand_n as_o though_o the_o church_n without_o archbishop_n and_o archdeacon_n ▪_o were_z aconfused_a heap_n and_o a_o disorder_a lump_n when_o as_o s._n paul_n teach_v it_o to_o be_v without_o they_o a_o body_n consist_v of_o all_o his_o part_n and_o member_n comely_a knit_v and_o join_v together_o wherein_o nothing_o want_v nor_o nothing_o be_v to_o much_o io._n whitgifte_n order_n and_o discipline_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n although_o all_o such_o all_o authority_n to_o execute_v discipline_n be_v not_o equal_o give_v to_o all_o as_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n have_v not_o the_o like_a authority_n to_o execute_v they_o for_o as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o that_o latin_a book_n for_o order_n and_o policy_n sake_n more_o be_v grant_v to_o the_o archbishop_n than_o to_o the_o bishop_n neither_o will_v any_o learned_a man_n so_o great_o marvel_n at_o this_o see_v the_o practice_n thereof_o be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n for_o paul_n have_v more_o large_a and_o ample_a authority_n than_o timothy_n and_o timothy_n than_o the_o resse_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o ephesus_n what_o if_o the_o church_n without_o archbishop_n and_o archdeacon_n be_v perfect_v in_o s._n paul_n time_n and_o may_v be_v perfect_a at_o other_o time_n do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n in_o no_o time_n or_o stare_n may_v have_v they_o or_o rather_o that_o they_o be_v not_o necessary_a at_o some_o time_n for_o the_o church_n in_o s._n paul_n time_n apostle_n prophet_n worker_n of_o miracle_n gift_n of_o heal_a diversity_n of_o tong_n be_v count_v necessary_a and_o principal_a part_n of_o this_o body_n which_o not_o with_o stand_v you_o confess_v now_o to_o be_v cut_v of_o and_o yet_o the_o body_n perfect_a so_o 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and_o open_v a_o door_n to_o anabaptisme_n and_o confusion_n moreover_o i_o tell_v you_o before_o that_o although_o this_o name_n archbishop_n be_v not_o express_v scripture_n the_o office_n of_o the_o archbishop_n express_v in_o scripture_n in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o be_v the_o office_n and_o function_n as_o it_o be_v evident_o to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o example_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n yea_o and_o in_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o who_o office_n of_o plant_v church_n through_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v cease_v but_o their_o care_n for_o the_o good_a government_n of_o those_o church_n which_o be_v plant_v and_o their_o authority_n over_o those_o pastor_n who_o they_o place_v do_v and_o must_v remain_v in_o such_o place_n where_o there_o be_v church_n and_o therefore_o m._n bucer_n write_v upon_o the_o four_o to_o the_o ephesian_n say_v eph._n bucer_n in_o eph._n thus_o miletum_n presbiteros_n ecclesiae_fw-la ephesinae_n convocat_fw-la tamen_fw-la quia_fw-la unus_fw-la inter_fw-la eos_fw-la praeerat_fw-la alijs_fw-la &_o primam_fw-la ecclesiaecuram_fw-la habebat_fw-la in_fw-la eo_fw-la propriè_fw-la residebat_fw-la nomen_fw-la episcopi_n in_o the_o act_n paul_n call_v the_o same_o man_n bishop_n and_o elder_n when_o as_o he_o call_v together_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n unto_o miletum_n yet_o because_o one_o among_o they_o do_v rule_v over_o the_o rest_n and_o have_v the_o chief_a care_n of_o the_o church_n the_o name_n of_o bishop_n do_v proper_o remain_v in_o he_o so_o that_o this_o superiority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o we_o speak_v of_o be_v even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o it_o be_v more_o at_o large_a afterward_o prove_v chap._n 1._o the._n 26._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 65._o sect._n 3_o do_v it_o not_o pertain_v to_o order_v that_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o god_n have_v set_v first_o apostles_n second_o prophet_n three_o teacher_n be_v not_o these_o word_n first_o second_z third_z difference_n of_o 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and_o hierome_n say_v that_o y_fw-es e_fw-es cause_v why_o among_o y_z e_z bishops_z one_z be_v choose_v to_o govern_v y_z e_o rest_n be_v to_o remedy_v schism_n do_v you_o not_o perceive_v how_o these_o two_o father_n join_v in_o one_o truth_n &_o direct_o affirm_v y_z e_o self_n same_o matter_n it_o be_v true_a y_fw-mi t_o time_n corrupt_v &_o therefore_o much_o more_o occasion_n be_v offer_v to_o appoint_v government_n according_a to_o y_z e_z time_n lest_o the_o corruption_n prevail_v &_o get_v the_o upper_a hand_n &_o for_o this_o cause_n hierome_n say_v that_o upon_o these_o corruption_n of_o time_n the_o church_n be_v constrain_v to_o appoint_v this_o order_n chap._n 3._o the._n 17._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 79._o sect._n 3_o and_o here_o i_o must_v put_v m._n doctor_n in_o remembrance_n how_o unfit_o he_o have_v dedicate_v his_o book_n unto_o y_z e_o church_n which_o have_v so_o patch_v it_o &_o peece_v it_o of_o a_o number_n of_o shredde_n of_o the_o doctor_n y_fw-fr t_o 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that_o be_v borrow_v the_o say_n of_o the_o doctor_n out_o of_o other_o man_n collection_n &_o not_o read_v y_z e_o author_n then selue_o a_o few_o book_n will_v serve_v &_o with_o very_o small_a charge_n they_o mightbe_n provide_v the_o patch_n piece_n &_o shred_n of_o doctor_n that_o be_v in_o my_o book_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o doctor_n themselves_o &_o they_o be_v whole_a sentence_n faithful_o allege_v but_o the_o shred_n of_o doctor_n that_o your_o book_n be_v stuff_v with_o you_o have_v borrow_v of_o other_o you_o have_v falsify_v they_o &_o cut_v they_o off_o by_o the_o half_a you_o have_v father_v upon_o they_o that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o and_o the_o word_n of_o late_a writer_n you_o have_v set_v down_o under_o the_o name_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o scripture_n you_o have_v false_o allege_v and_o untrue_o translate_v i_o will_v not_o glad_o have_v burst_v out_o into_o this_o accusation_n at_o this_o time_n be_v from_o the_o matter_n but_o that_o you_o have_v urge_v i_o thereunto_o chap._n 3._o the._n 18._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 79._o sect._n 4._o 5._o 6._o hierome_n say_v y_z e_z at_o the_o first_o a_o bishop_n &_o a_o elder_n which_o you_o call_v a_o priest_n be_v all_o one_o but_o afterward_o through_o faction_n &_o schism_n it_o be_v decree_v y_o t_o one_o shall_v rule_v over_o y_o e_o rest_n now_o i_o say_v against_o this_o order_n that_z y_z e_z bishop_n shall_v bear_v rule_n over_o all_o y_z e_z which_z our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v unto_o y_z e_o phariseis_n from_o y_z e_z beginning_z it_o be_v not_o so_o &_o therefore_o i_o require_v that_o y_z e_z first_o order_n may_v stand_v which_o be_v prax._n contr_n prax._n that_o a_o bishop_n &_o elder_n be_v all_o one_o and_o if_o you_o place_v so_o great_a authority_n against_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n in_o a_o mortal_a man_n hear_v what_o tertullian_n say_v unto_o you_o that_o be_v true_a whatsoever_o be_v first_o and_o that_o be_v false_a whatsoever_o be_v latter_a hierome_n &_o you_o confess_v y_z t_o this_o be_v first_o that_z y_z e_z bishop_z be_v all_o one_o with_o y_z e_z elder_n &_o first_o also_o by_o y_z e_z falsify_v tertullians_n meaning_n falsify_v word_n of_o god_n they_o i_o conclude_v y_fw-fr t_z that_o be_v true_a you_o both_o do_v likewise_o confess_v y_z t_z it_o come_v after_o that_o one_o bare_a rule_n over_o the_o rest_n than_o i_o conclude_v y_z e_z that_o be_v false_a for_o all_o that_o be_v false_a that_o be_v latter_a furthermore_o hierome_n in_o the_o same_o place_n of_o titus_n say_v after_o this_o sort_n as_z y_z e_z elder_n know_v themselves_o to_o be_v subject_a by_o a_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n unto_o he_o that_o be_v set_v over_o they_o so_o the_o bishop_n must_v know_v that_o they_o be_v great_a than_o the_o elder_n rather_o by_o custom_n than_o by_o any_o truth_n of_o the_o instatution_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o they_o ought_v to_o govern_v the_o church_n in_o common_a io._n whitgifte_n it_o follow_v after_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n that_o there_o be_v superiority_n among_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n e_o en_fw-fr in_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o i_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o ripture_n &_o other_o testimony_n it_o be_v also_o 〈◊〉_d that_o great_a faction_n &_o schi_n mes_fw-fr do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o therefore_o most_o like_a these_o that_o icrome_n sp_z k_v of_o to_o have_v be_v they_o determine_v the_o which_o to_o be_v true_a his_o word_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d touch_v y_z e_o church_n of_o alexandria_n do_v evident_o declare_v for_o he_o say_v you_o to_o this_o order_n be_v keep_v 〈◊〉_d from_o s._n mark_n but_o admit_v these_o be_v not_o true_a which_o you_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v yet_o your_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n &_o the_o place_n of_o tertullian_n be_v not_o understand_v for_o tertullian_n in_o that_o book_n after_o he_o have_v repeat_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v to_o believe_v in_o ▪_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ▪_o one_o god_n and_o in_o his_o son_n jesus_n ch_n ist_fw-mi etc._n etc._n he_o say_v that_o this_o rule_n have_v come_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o gospel_n even_o before_o all_o former_a heretic_n much_o more_o before_o 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v but_o yesterdaye_n as_o well_o the_o posterity_n of_o all_o heretic_n as_o the_o very_a novelty_n of_o 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v of_o late_o will_v prove_v whereby_o judgement_n may_v hereof_o be_v indifferent_o give_v against_o all_o heresy_n that_o that_o be_v true_a whatsoever_o be_v first_o &_o that_o count_n rfeit_v whatsoever_o be_v last_o whereby_o it_o be_v e_o ident_a that_o tertullians_n rule_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o matter_n of_o salvation_n veland_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d s_o ode_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gin_n veland_n &_o of_o faith_n &_o not_o in_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n &_o kind_n of_o government_n which_o thing_n he_o himself_o in_o plain_a word_n declare_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la velandis_fw-la where_o in_o like_a manner_n after_o he_o have_v recite_v this_o rule_n of_o faith_n he_o add_v this_o law_n of_o aith_v remain_v other_o thing_n of_o discipline_n &_o conversation_n admit_v newness_n of_o correction_n the_o grace_n of_o god_n work_v and_o go_v forward_o even_o to_o the_o end_n so_o that_o tertullian_n think_v that_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n and_o discipline_n may_v be_v alter_v y_o e_fw-la rule_n of_o faith_n remain_v 〈◊〉_d notwithstanding_o his_o former_a rule_n if_o you_o will_v not_o have_v this_o to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o tertullian_n then_o will_v i_o reason_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d the_o reason_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o beginning_n there_o be_v apostle_n therefore_o there_o must_v be_v apostle_n now_o in_o y_z e_z beginning_z it_o be_v forbid_v to_o eat_v y_o it_o which_o be_v strangle_v ergo_fw-la we_o may_v not_o eat_v it_o now_o in_o y_z e_z beginning_z there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrates_n ergo_fw-la there_o must_v e_o no_o e_z now_o in_o the_o beginning_n the_o apostle_n baptize_v in_o river_n the_o communion_n be_v minister_v to_o 12._o only_o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la quòd_fw-la posterius_fw-la falsum_fw-la that_o which_o be_v latter_o be_v false_a these_o be_v as_o good_a argument_n as_o you_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n &_o therefore_o these_o argument_n &_o you_o also_o with_o such_o like_a be_v stark_o naught_o chap._n 3._o the._n 19_o division_n t._n c._n page_n 79._o sect._n ult._n now_o see_v that_o hierome_n confess_v y_o it_o a_o bishop_n &_o a_o elder_n by_o god_n his_o institution_n be_v all_o one_o &_o that_o custom_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n have_v alter_v this_o institution_n for_o the_o take_v away_o of_o this_o custom_n &_o restore_v of_o the_o lord_n institution_n i_o say_v as_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v why_o do_v you_o break_v the_o commandment_n 15._o math_n 15._o of_o god_n to_o establish_v your_o own_o tradition_n â–ª_o for_o the_o one_o be_v the_o institution_n of_o god_n &_o the_o other_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n &_o if_o a_o man_n testimony_n be_v so_o much_o with_o m._n doctor_n let_v he_o hear_v what_o you_o â—_o same_o virg_n develand_n virg_n tertullian_n say_v whatsoever_o savore_v against_o the_o truth_n shall_v be_v account_v heresy_n even_o although_o it_o be_v a_o old_a custom_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o whole_a bóoke_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o sand_n y_z t_z be_v upon_o foundation_n not_o prove_v as_o this_o be_v for_o you_o shall_v first_o have_v prove_v that_o christ_n have_v so_o command_v equality_n of_o minister_n in_o government_n &_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n that_o one_o of_o they_o may_v not_o be_v above_o the_o other_o the_o contrary_a be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o scripture_n both_o in_o word_n &_o example_n as_o i_o have_v after_o declare_v so_o far_o of_o be_v it_o that_o you_o can_v show_v any_o commandment_n to_o the_o contrary_n this_o text_n of_o you_o e._n 15._o of_o mat._n do_v the_o anabaptiste_n object_n unto_o zuinglius_fw-la in_o the_o like_a case_n as_o it_o appear_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la but_o he_o answer_v they_o as_o i_o must_v answer_v you_o i_o speak_v 〈◊〉_d zuing._n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d not_o as_o you_o feign_v i_o to_o speak_v i_o speak_v only_o of_o external_a &_o indifferent_a thing_n whereof_o there_o be_v many_o which_o be_v neither_o command_v nor_o forbid_v by_o any_o express_a word_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n &_o again_o for_o this_o that_o we_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o necessarrie_v unto_o salvation_n but_o it_o be_v external_a of_o the_o which_o thing_n many_o may_v be_v find_v omit_v in_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o except_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o we_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n some_o thing_n as_o necessary_a unto_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o scripture_n this_o text_n be_v no_o more_o apt_o apply_v by_o you_o against_o i_o than_o it_o be_v by_o the_o anabaptist_n against_o zuinglius_fw-la the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n be_v true_a and_o make_v nothing_o for_o your_o purpose_n for_o you_o must_v first_o prove_v that_o these_o degree_n be_v against_o the_o truth_n chap._n 3._o the._n 20._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 80._o line_n 3._o now_o i_o will_v turn_v m._n doctor_n own_o argument_n upon_o his_o head_n after_o this_o sort_n 〈◊〉_d sort_n a_o sillogisme_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v b_z schism_n &_o heresy_n but_o in_o their_o time_n there_o be_v no_o archbishop_n ordain_v to_o appear_v they_o therefore_o the_o best_a mean_n of_o compose_v of_o controversy_n and_o keep_v concord_n be_v not_o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o your_o 〈◊〉_d â–ª_o pag._n 7_o 〈◊〉_d 5._o by_o have_v a_o archbishop_n to_o be_v over_o a_o whole_a province_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o will_v several_o answer_v your_o argument_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v the_o better_o understand_v the_o pith_n of_o they_o and_o first_o i_o deny_v this_o argument_n because_o it_o be_v neither_o in_o mode_n 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d argument_n this_o 〈◊〉_d nor_o sigure_n for_o first_o you_o must_v call_v to_o memory_n that_o in_o the_o three_o figure_n where_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o place_v it_o the_o minor_a may_v not_o be_v negative_a as_o you_o be_v second_o there_o be_v more_o in_o the_o conclusion_n then_o there_o be_v in_o the_o premise_n which_o be_v against_o all_o rule_n of_o sillogisme_n if_o you_o have_v conclude_v according_a to_o your_o former_a proposition_n you_o shall_v have_v say_v thus_o ergo_fw-la when_o there_o be_v archbishop_n there_o be_v 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be_v invent_v in_o sect_n pag._n 82._o sect_n what_o book_n it_o be_v contain_v so_o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a and_o con_v onant_n to_o god_n word_n and_o you_o report_v they_o thus_o whence_o soever_o this_o or_o that_o come_v so_o it_o be_v not_o evil_a it_o may_v be_v well_o establish_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ._n if_o you_o have_v the_o truth_n why_o do_v you_o thus_o go_v about_o to_o maintain_v it_o with_o lie_n in_o so_o do_v you_o hurt_v not_o i_o but_o yourself_o and_o your_o cause_n ¶_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_a fault_n either_o in_o matter_n or_o form_n wherewith_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n be_v charge_v chap._n 2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 105._o sect._n 3_o now_o i_o come_v to_o the_o form_n of_o prayer_n which_o be_v prescribe_v wherein_o the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n declare_v that_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o to_o disallow_v of_o prescript_n service_n of_o prayer_n but_o of_o this_o foe_n rme_n 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8._o 26_o 1._o tim._n 1._o 2_o move_v they_o so_o they_o pour_v forth_o hearty_a supplication_n to_o the_o lord_n now_o they_o be_v find_v of_o necessity_n to_o a_o seven_o a_o damasus_n the_o first_o inventor_n of_o this_o stuff_n well_o further_v by_o gregory_n the_o seven_o prescripte_n order_n of_o service_n and_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 77._o sect._n 3_o to_o prove_v that_o minister_n be_v not_o so_o tie_v to_o any_o form_n of_o prayer_n invent_v by_o man_n but_o that_o as_o the_o spirit_n move_v they_o etc._n etc._n you_o quote_v rom._n 8._o &_o the_o 1._o timo._n 1._o in_o the_o eight_o to_o the_o roman_n the_o word_n be_v these_o likewise_o also_o the_o spirit_n help_v our_o infirmity_n for_o we_o know_v not_o what_o to_o pray_v as_o we_o ought_v but_o the_o spirit_n itself_o make_v request_n for_o we_o with_o fighe_n which_o can_v be_v express_v this_o place_n speak_v nothing_o against_o any_o prescript_n form_n of_o prayer_n for_o 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prayer_n peradventure_o you_o will_v have_v allege_v the_o 1._o to_o timo._n 2._o i_o exhort_v therefore_o that_o first_o of_o all_o supplication_n etc._n etc._n which_o make_v direct_o against_o you_o io._n whitgifte_n nothing_o answer_v to_o this_o chap._n 2._o the._n 3._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 78._o sect._n 1_o if_o you_o mean_v by_o prayer_n invent_v by_o man_n such_o prayer_n as_o man_n invent_v against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a prayer_n unto_o saint_n &_o such_o like_a than_o it_o be_v true_a that_o you_o say_v but_o if_o you_o mean_v such_o prayer_n as_o by_o godly_a man_n be_v frame_v according_a to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n whether_o they_o be_v for_o matter_n perteyn_a to_o the_o life_n to_o come_v or_o to_o this_o life_n than_o you_o show_v your_o ignorance_n for_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o there_o have_v be_v always_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n a_o prescript_n form_n of_o public_a prayer_n as_o it_o 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five_o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o to_o the_o corinthian_n that_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a be_v excommunicate_v public_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n but_o i_o read_v neither_o of_o senior_n nor_o deacon_n call_v as_o officer_n to_o the_o same_o s_o paul_n himself_o say_v excommunicandi_fw-la paul_n alone_o have_v lus_z excommunicandi_fw-la ego_fw-la quidem_fw-la ut_fw-la absens_fw-la corpore_fw-la presen_v spiritu_fw-la iam_fw-la decrevi_fw-la tanquam_fw-la presen_n ut_fw-la be_v etc._n etc._n i_o true_o as_o absent_v in_o the_o body_n but_o present_a in_o spirit_n have_v determine_v as_o present_v that_o he_o etc._n etc._n which_o manifest_o argue_v that_o ius_n excommunicandi_fw-la be_v in_o paul_n &_o not_o 5._o 1._o corinth_n 5._o in_o the_o rest_n but_o all_o be_v scripture_n that_o you_o speak_v how_o far_o soever_o it_o be_v from_o the_o true_a meaning_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n t._n c._n pag._n 147._o sect._n 1_o now_o whereas_o 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that_o s._n paul_n have_v the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n but_o you_o shall_v have_v show_v that_o he_o on_o lie_v have_v opinion_n shall_v not_o otherwise_o be_v put_v to_o silence_n than_o by_o excommunication_n and_o ought_v no_o further_o to_o be_v punish_v do_v not_o reason_v sufficient_o and_o apt_o for_o there_o be_v one_o duty_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o another_o of_o the_o magistrate_n paul_n write_v unto_o titus_n do_v not_o entreat_v of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n but_o show_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o a_o bishop_n although_o a_o moderate_a means_n be_v always_o best_a that_o they_o which_o be_v not_o past_a care_n be_v not_o so_o much_o keep_v in_o order_n by_o force_n as_o by_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n but_o you_o think_v your_o own_o word_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a warrant_n against_o all_o man_n you_o may_v well_o study_v the_o word_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o i_o think_v you_o do_v not_o great_o pass_v for_o the_o right_a understanding_n of_o they_o chap._n 1._o the._n 11._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 113._o lin._n 4._o basilius_n magnus_n in_o his_o second_o book_n de_fw-fr officijs_fw-la cap._n 27._o testify_v the_o same_o t._n c._n pag._n 148._o lin._n 32._o as_o touch_v basiles_n place_n in_o the_o second_o book_n of_o office_n when_o the_o book_n come_v forth_o and_o be_v print_v than_o it_o shall_v be_v answer_v as_o for_o i_o i_o know_v of_o none_o such_o that_o be_v extant_a now_o io._n whitgifte_n i_o confess_v the_o name_n to_o be_v mistake_v it_o be_v a_o oversight_n and_o yet_o no_o great_a than_o â–ª_o in_o his_o epistle_n sect._n 8_o â–ª_o you_o be_v in_o allege_v josias_n for_o ezechias_n and_o both_o this_o and_o that_o which_o follow_v of_o theodorete_n for_o theodotus_n be_v correct_v as_o well_o in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o first_o edition_n as_o in_o the_o second_o before_o i_o
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disciplinae_fw-la severa_fw-la misericordia_fw-la necessaria_fw-la est_fw-la nam_fw-la consilia_fw-la separationis_fw-la &_o inania_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o perniti_fw-la sa_o atque_fw-la sacrilega_fw-la quia_fw-la &_o impia_fw-la &_o superba_fw-la fiunt_fw-la &_o plus_fw-la perturbant_fw-la infirmos_fw-la bonos_fw-es quà m_fw-la corrigunt_fw-la animosos_fw-la malos_fw-la very_o if_o the_o contagion_n of_o sin_n have_v infect_v the_o multitude_n the_o severe_a mercy_n of_o godly_a discipline_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o purpose_n of_o separation_n be_v both_o vain_a pernicious_a and_o sacrilegious_a because_o they_o be_v both_o wicked_a and_o presumptuous_a and_o do_v more_o trouble_v the_o good_a that_o be_v weak_a than_o correct_v or_o amend_v the_o evil_a that_o be_v stubborn_a saint_n augustine_n do_v not_o here_o allege_v this_o for_o a_o cause_n that_o sufficient_a voice_n can_v not_o be_v obtain_v for_o excommunication_n as_o you_o pretend_v but_o he_o think_v excommunication_n to_o be_v altogether_o in_o vain_a where_o the_o infection_n be_v general_a but_o that_o it_o may_v further_o appear_v the_o doctrine_n that_o i_o affirm_v touch_v the_o authority_n church_n exit_fw-la mmunication_n by_o bishop_n prove_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primi_fw-la church_n of_o bishop_n in_o excommunicate_v to_o be_v true_a and_o to_o have_v be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o best_a time_n and_o state_n of_o it_o i_o think_v good_a in_o this_o place_n to_o add_v to_o my_o former_a testimony_n and_o answer_n the_o authority_n of_o certain_a counsel_n wherein_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n do_v evidente_o show_v itself_o and_o first_o to_o begin_v with_o the_o canon_n attribute_v to_o the_o apostle_n and_o so_o oft_o allege_v by_o t._n c._n in_o the._n 32._o or_o as_o it_o be_v in_o some_o book_n the._n 33._o of_o those_o canon_n it_o be_v thus_o decree_v 32._o can._n apost_n 32._o if_o any_o priest_n or_o deacon_n be_v excommunicate_v of_o his_o bishop_n it_o may_v not_o be_v lawful_a for_o any_o other_o to_o receive_v he_o but_o only_o the_o party_n that_o have_v separate_v he_o except_o that_o bishop_n die_v which_o have_v excommunicate_v he_o in_o this_o canon_n power_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o also_o to_o absolve_v be_v in_o plain_a word_n commit_v to_o the_o bishop_n alone_o the_o fifte_a canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a speak_v of_o this_o matter_n in_o these_o word_n 5._o con._n nicae_n can_v 5._o concern_v those_o that_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o communion_n be_v they_o clerk_n or_o lie_v man_n by_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v in_o every_o province_n let_v the_o sentence_n stand_v according_a to_o the_o canon_n which_o do_v pronounce_v those_o that_o be_v eject_v of_o some_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v of_o other_o but_o let_v it_o be_v examine_v whether_o the_o party_n be_v excommunicate_v through_o the_o indignation_n or_o contention_n or_o frowardness_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o for_o this_o 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communion_n do_v thereby_o injury_n to_o his_o brother_n and_o fellow_n bishop_n by_o all_o these_o canon_n and_o ancient_a counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o from_o time_n to_o time_n even_o in_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a state_n of_o the_o church_n bishop_n alone_o have_v have_v authority_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o least_o t._n c._n shall_v here_o flee_v to_o his_o old_a shift_n and_o new_o devise_v distinction_n action_n the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_v alone_o not_o as_o rator_n of_o the_o action_n that_o this_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o bishop_n because_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o action_n and_o do_v moderate_v it_o and_o not_o because_o the_o authority_n and_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v remain_v in_o he_o alone_o although_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o the_o counsel_n over_o ▪_o throw_v it_o and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v iustify_v by_o any_o learning_n or_o good_a authority_n yet_o that_o the_o sard._n con._n sard._n reader_n may_v the_o better_o 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and_o help_n to_o his_o office_n &_o function_n as_o i_o have_v say_v wherefore_o they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o break_v his_o back_n that_o they_o make_v the_o rest_n of_o his_o burden_n a_o great_a deal_n the_o easy_a chap._n 3._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 169._o sect._n 3_o and_o whereas_o in_o the_o policy_n of_o m._n doctor_n it_o seem_v a_o furtherance_n to_o the_o gospel_n to_o join_v these_o together_o which_o be_v also_o the_o policy_n of_o the_o idolater_n as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v in_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n it_o have_v seem_v far_o otherwise_o which_o i_o doubt_v not_o do_v therefore_o separate_v the_o ministry_n from_o this_o pomp_n which_o be_v commendable_a in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n lest_o the_o efficacy_n and_o power_n of_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o ministry_n shall_v be_v obscure_v while_o man_n will_v attribute_v the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n unto_o the_o gospel_n due_a unto_o the_o word_n and_o to_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n to_o these_o glorious_a show_n and_o lest_o while_o the_o minister_n have_v the_o word_n in_o one_o hand_n and_o the_o swordem_n the_o other_o man_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o judge_v so_o well_o in_o their_o conscience_n â–ª_o of_o the_o mighty_a operation_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o they_o for_o they_o may_v doubt_n with_o themselves_o whether_o these_o be_v and_o outward_a show_n of_o the_o minister_n carry_v some_o stroke_n with_o they_o in_o beleve_v the_o word_n io._n whitgifte_n one_o of_o your_o reason_n contain_v in_o this_o place_n in_o effect_n be_v this_o if_o minister_n shall_v enjoy_v civil_a function_n man_n will_v attribute_v the_o conversion_n of_o soul_n unto_o these_o show_n but_o that_o ought_v they_o not_o to_o do_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n i_o deny_v your_o mayor_n as_o a_o fond_a and_o vain_a imagination_n
buyer_n and_o seller_n out_o of_o the_o temple_n what_o office_n do_v paul_n commit_v to_o timothy_n when_o he_o say_v adversùs_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la &_o c_o i_o will_v not_o have_v a_o minister_n to_o be_v a_o warrior_n or_o a_o farmer_n or_o a_o merchant_n or_o have_v any_o such_o like_a osfice_n which_o consist_v in_o gain_n or_o bodily_a labour_n only_o but_o why_o he_o may_v not_o have_v such_o a_o office_n as_o be_v profitable_a to_o increase_v godliness_n and_o punish_v ungodliness_n i_o hear_v as_o yet_o no_o reason_n as_o for_o the_o office_n of_o a_o high_a commissioner_n it_o be_v ecclesiastical_a for_o they_o have_v to_o do_v only_o in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o and_o for_o elye_v and_o samuel_n they_o be_v extraordinary_a example_n which_o may_v thereby_o appear_v for_o that_o both_o these_o office_n first_o meeting_n in_o melchisedech_n and_o afterward_o in_o moses_n be_v by_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n sever_v when_o as_o the_o lord_n take_v from_o moses_n be_v so_o wise_a and_o godly_a a_o man_n the_o priesthood_n and_o give_v it_o to_o aaron_n and_o to_o his_o successor_n and_o so_o for_o so_o much_o as_o when_o the_o lord_n will_v polish_a his_o church_n &_o make_v it_o famous_a &_o renoun_n ed_z in_o the_o world_n he_o give_v this_o order_n it_o appear_v that_o he_o will_v have_v this_o to_o be_v a_o perpetual_a rule_n unto_o his_o church_n and_o by_o so_o much_o it_o be_v the_o clear_a for_o that_o the_o lord_n do_v not_o tarry_v until_o moses_n death_n but_o take_v the_o priesthood_n away_o from_o moses_n which_o be_v a_o man_n as_o able_a to_o execute_v both_o as_o either_o elye_a or_o samuel_n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v not_o certain_a whether_o moses_n be_v ever_o priest_n or_o no_o for_o where_o it_o be_v say_v priest_n it_o be_v doubtful_a whether_o moses_n be_v priest_n in_o the._n 99_o bsalme_n moses_n &_o aaron_n in_o sacerdotibus_fw-la eius_fw-la the_o hebrew_n word_n be_v doubtful_a and_o signify_v as_o well_o a_o prince_n as_o a_o priest_n &_o therefore_o upon_o this_o place_n it_o can_v necessary_o be_v conclude_v that_o moses_n be_v a_o priest_n moreover_o at_o that_o time_n the_o chief_a ruler_n &_o man_n of_o great_a authority_n be_v call_v priest_n but_o you_o never_o read_v that_o moses_n offer_v up_o any_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o proper_a office_n of_o the_o priest_n neither_o can_v you_o tell_v we_o where_o he_o be_v ever_o consecrate_v priest_n in_o deed_n harding_n against_o the_o apology_n do_v allege_v this_o example_n at_o moses_n be_v as_o he_o say_v both_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o a_o priest_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v both_o king_n and_o priest_n but_o be_v it_o as_o you_o say_v that_o these_o two_o office_n be_v distinguish_v in_o moses_n &_o aaron_n &_o that_o the_o priest_n office_n which_o consist_v in_o offer_v oblation_n &_o sacrifice_n be_v take_v from_o he_o yet_o do_v he_o keep_v still_o his_o former_a authority_n in_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o in_o prescribe_v to_o aaron_n what_o he_o shall_v do_v even_o in_o matter_n perteyn_a to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n so_o that_o these_o two_o office_n i_o mean_v civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a be_v not_o so_o distinct_a but_o that_o they_o may_v both_o apt_o &_o well_o meet_v &_o join_v together_o further_o more_o one_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a office_n meet_v in_o one_o you_o know_v that_o howsoever_o the_o priesthood_n &_o civil_a magistracy_n be_v divide_v in_o moses_n and_o aaron_n yet_o meet_v they_o both_o together_o again_o not_o only_o in_o elye_a &_o samuel_n but_o in_o es_fw-ge ras_n nehemias_n mattathias_n and_o some_o other_o which_o example_n prove_v that_o upon_o occasion_n these_o office_n may_v meet_v together_o in_o one_o person_n &_o they_o quite_o overthrow_v your_o allegation_n of_o moses_n chap._n 3._o the._n 9_o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 170._o sect._n 1_o and_o this_o may_v be_v also_o easy_o see_v for_o that_o in_o a_o manner_n always_o where_o there_o be_v any_o good_a &_o stay_v estate_n of_o the_o church_n these_o office_n be_v minister_v by_o several_a person_n and_o then_o meet_v and_o be_v mingle_v when_o the_o estate_n be_v very_o ruinous_a and_o miserable_a a_o d_o if_o this_o be_v a_o good_a reason_n to_o prove_v that_o minister_n may_v exercise_v civil_a office_n it_o be_v as_o good_a a_o reason_n to_o prove_v that_o prince_n may_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n for_o if_o the_o minister_n may_v exercise_v civil_a office_n because_o elye_v &_o samuel_n be_v minister_n do_v so_o the_o prince_n and_o judge_n may_v preach_v the_o word_n and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n because_o elye_v and_o samuel_n be_v prince_n and_o judge_n do_v so_o and_o so_o we_o see_v how_o m._n doctor_n go_v about_o to_o descend_v one_o confusion_n bring_v in_o a_o other_o io._n whitgifte_n here_o you_o confess_v that_o which_o hitherto_o in_o your_o whole_a book_n you_o have_v deny_v and_o controversy_n t._n c._n confess_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o these_o controversy_n that_o which_o be_v in_o deed_n the_o whole_a ground_n of_o the_o chief_a matter_n in_o controversy_n that_o be_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v diverse_a according_a to_o the_o diversity_n of_o the_o time_n and_o state_n of_o the_o same_o as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n it_o may_v be_v otherwise_o govern_v than_o in_o time_n of_o peace_n otherwise_o when_o the_o state_n be_v establish_v than_o when_o it_o be_v ruynous_a and_o in_o decay_n for_o say_v you_o in_o a_o manner_n always_o where_o there_o be_v any_o good_a and_o stay_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n these_o office_n be_v minister_v by_o several_a person_n and_o then_o meet_v and_o be_v mingle_v when_o the_o estate_n be_v very_o ruynous_a thus_o have_v you_o grant_v of_o your_o own_o accord_n that_o which_o hitherto_o you_o have_v so_o stiff_o and_o stout_o deny_v such_o be_v the_o might_n &_o force_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n be_v in_o good_a state_n all_o sainuels_n time_n and_o the_o most_o part_n of_o elyes_n also_o for_o any_o thing_n that_o i_o can_v read_v to_o the_o contrary_n i_o bring_v in_o those_o example_n to_o prove_v that_o these_o office_n have_v meet_v together_o and_o reply_o the_o state_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o controverune_v alter_v by_o the_o reply_o therefore_o be_v not_o so_o diverse_a as_o you_o will_v make_v they_o i_o do_v not_o use_v they_o to_o this_o end_n that_o i_o will_v have_v a_o priest_n to_o be_v a_o king_n you_o know_v the_o state_n of_o our_o question_n be_v only_o whether_o bishop_n may_v exercise_v those_o civil_a function_n of_o justiceship_n of_o peace_n and_o such_o like_a which_o the_o prince_n commit_v unto_o they_o or_o no_o and_o not_o whether_o they_o may_v sit_v in_o the_o prince_n throne_n and_o take_v her_o sceptre_n out_o of_o her_o hand_n whether_o she_o will_v or_o no_o as_o the_o pope_n do_v and_o therefore_o whereas_o you_o saythat_v by_o these_o example_n of_o elye_a and_o samuel_n i_o may_v as_o well_o conclude_v that_o prince_n may_v preach_v the_o word_n and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n as_o priest_n and_o minister_n execute_v cruill_a office_n i_o think_v you_o do_v not_o consider_v that_o these_o civil_a office_n be_v but_o accident_n to_o the_o priesthode_n &_o therefore_o may_v well_o be_v remove_v as_o they_o be_v from_o samuel_n when_o saul_n be_v choose_v king_n for_o samuel_n keep_v his_o priesthood_n though_o he_o lose_v his_o civil_a authority_n but_o the_o priesthood_n be_v not_o so_o to_o the_o cyvill_a magistrate_n except_o he_o will_v be_v ordinary_o and_o lawful_o admit_v thereunto_o i_o thuike_a that_o there_o be_v no_o degree_n of_o dignity_n that_o make_v a_o man_n unmeete_a for_o the_o ministry_n if_o he_o be_v thereunto_o lawful_o call_v and_o have_v other_o gift_n meet_v for_o the_o same_o wherefore_o as_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o a_o minister_n in_o the_o respect_n that_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n ought_v to_o have_v a_o civil_a office_n but_o that_o he_o may_v have_v one_o if_o he_o be_v by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n thereunto_o appoint_v so_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n but_o that_o he_o may_v be_v if_o he_o be_v meet_a and_o thereunto_o ordinary_o and_o lawful_o call_v and_o admit_v the_o priest_n may_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n unless_o he_o be_v call_v lawful_o unto_o it_o nor_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n may_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o office_n of_o a_o priest_n unless_o he_o be_v ordinary_o thereunto_o admit_v and_o this_o be_v no_o confusion_n at_o all_o chap._n 3._o the._n 10._o division_n
collection_n make_v in_o vain_a and_o frame_v according_a to_o your_o own_o pleasure_n not_o so_o my_o meaning_n if_o you_o have_v do_v it_o of_o ignorance_n you_o be_v to_o be_v excuse_v if_o of_o set_a purpose_n you_o be_v to_o be_v blame_v and_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o m._n doctor_n must_v understand_v that_o this_o be_v ecclesiastical_a power_n puniendis_fw-la peter_n punish_v of_o ananias_n be_v by_o civil_a jurisdiction_n ▪_o beza_n de_fw-la haeret_fw-la à _fw-fr magist._n puniendis_fw-la i_o say_v on_o the_o other_o side_n that_o you_o must_v understand_v that_o this_o be_v not_o ecclesiastical_a but_o mere_a civil_a which_o you_o may_v have_v learn_v of_o m._n beza_n in_o diverse_a place_n of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr haereticis_fw-la à _fw-la magistratu_fw-la pun_a for_o thus_o he_o write_v cedò_fw-la igitur_fw-la christus_fw-la quo_fw-la jure_fw-la flagellum_fw-la his_fw-la corripuit_fw-la quo_fw-la jure_fw-la petrus_n ananiam_fw-la &_o sapbiram_n occidit_fw-la quo_fw-la jure_fw-la paulus_n elymam_fw-la excaecavit_fw-la ▪_o num_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la ministerij_fw-la minimè_fw-la profectò_fw-la nisi_fw-la iurisdictiones_fw-la confundas_fw-la ergo_fw-la civilis_fw-la magistratus_fw-la jure_fw-la nihil_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la tertium_fw-la tell_v i_o therefore_o by_o what_o law_n do_v christ_n take_v the_o whip_n in_o hand_n twice_o by_o what_o law_n do_v peter_n kill_v ananias_n and_o saphira_n by_o what_o right_o do_v paul_n strike_v elymas_n with_o blindness_n do_v they_o those_o thing_n by_o the_o right_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a ministry_n no_o true_o except_o you_o will_v confound_v jurisdiction_n they_o do_v it_o therefore_o by_o the_o right_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n for_o there_o be_v no_o mean_a and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n do_v he_o speak_v sundry_a time_n in_o that_o book_n what_o outcry_n i_o have_v use_v or_o declamation_n which_o you_o have_v not_o in_o ample_a manner_n requite_v add_v to_o the_o same_o all_o opprobrious_a kind_n of_o speech_n and_o jest_a taunt_n that_o you_o can_v devise_v let_v the_o indifferent_a reader_n judge_v wherefore_o i_o hearty_o wish_v unto_o you_o both_o better_a knowledge_n and_o better_a conscience_n chap._n 3._o the._n 13._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 171._o sect._n 1_o unto_o m._n doctor_n ask_v where_o it_o appear_v that_o pope_n eugensus_n bring_v in_o prison_n into_o the_o church_n as_o also_o unto_o the_o three_o or_o four_o such_o like_a demand_n ▪_o which_o he_o make_v in_o this_o book_n the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n answer_v at_o once_o that_o this_o and_o the_o other_o be_v find_v in_o pantaleon_n and_o m._n bales_n chronicle_n io._n whitgifte_n what_o author_n do_v they_o allege_v for_o they_o for_o both_o these_o be_v but_o very_o late_a writer_n and_o this_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o history_n and_o therefore_o require_v some_o great_a antiquity_n near_o unto_o the_o time_n of_o eugenius_n who_o live_v anno._n 650._o but_o you_o know_v very_o well_o 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sincere_o preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n right_o minister_v for_o further_a proufe_v whereof_o and_o avoid_v of_o tediousness_n i_o refer_v you_o to_o master_n bullinger_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 10._o adversus_fw-la anabaptist_n to_o master_n caluine_n adversus_fw-la anabaptist_n to_o master_n gualther_n in_o his_o epistle_n dedicatory_a before_o his_o mischief_n the_o pretence_n of_o restore_v the_o right_a government_n but_o a_o cloak_n for_o far_a mischief_n commentary_n upon_o the_o first_o to_o the_o corinth_n therefore_o this_o pretence_n of_o restore_v the_o right_a government_n of_o the_o church_n with_o so_o great_a disquietness_n of_o the_o same_o be_v but_o a_o cover_n to_o hide_v the_o further_a purpose_n of_o satan_n the_o enemy_n of_o the_o peace_n and_o quietness_n of_o the_o church_n t._n c._n with_o the_o which_o albeit_o i_o wrestle_v hand_n to_o hand_n in_o this_o book_n yet_o forasmuch_o as_o we_o have_v all_o drink_v so_o deep_a of_o the_o cup_n of_o untruth_n that_o 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〈◊〉_d be_v not_o full_a of_o word_n vulg._n nolite_fw-la multum_fw-la loqui_fw-la do_v not_o babble_n much_o erasmus_n ne_o itis_fw-la multiloqui_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quo_fw-la id_fw-la m_o declaratur_fw-la longae_fw-la tamen_fw-la preces_fw-la hîc_fw-la non_fw-la damnantur_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la vanae_fw-la sunt_fw-la inane_n &_o super_fw-la titiosae_fw-la longa_n enim_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la oratio_fw-la in_o qua_fw-la nihil_fw-la redundat_fw-la centra_fw-la vero_fw-la brevis_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la proficiscitur_fw-la ex_fw-la nimo_fw-la pio_fw-la &_o fideli_fw-la be_v not_o babbler_n or_o full_a of_o word_n that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d whereby_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v signify_v yet_o be_v not_o long_a prayer_n here_o condemn_v but_o those_o that_o be_v vain_a fond_a &_o superstitious_a for_o it_o be_v not_o a_o long_a prayer_n wherein_o nothing_o be_v to_o much_o on_o the_o other_o side_n 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non_fw-la cum_fw-la diu_fw-la precamur_fw-la sed_fw-la cum_fw-la citra_fw-la fidem_fw-la &_o spiritum_fw-la verbamultiplicamus_fw-la wherefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v mark_v that_o then_o be_v there_o much_o babble_n not_o when_o we_o pray_v long_o but_o when_o we_o multiply_v word_n without_o faith_n and_o spirit_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o writer_n that_o do_v otherwise_o interpret_v this_o place_n not_o even_o those_o that_o translate_v it_o vain_a repetition_n and_o the_o reason_n whereby_o you_o will_v overthrow_v this_o sense_n be_v word_n only_o &_o not_o reason_n 26._o long_o o_o your_o r_o repetition_n net_n 〈◊〉_d but_o babli_fw-la of_o word_n 〈◊〉_d our_o faith_n math._n 26._o for_o who_o can_v think_v y_z t_o christ_n do_v here_o condenne_v long_a prayer_n or_o many_o word_n or_o the_o repetition_n of_o godly_a prayer_n himself_n continue_v in_o prayer_n a_o whole_a night_n in_o the_o mountain_n &_o oftentimes_o repeat_v one_o &_o the_o same_o prayer_n not_o long_o before_o 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